Esther Anyieni Okenyuri

Sen. Okenyuri

Sen. Okenyuri

Sen. Okenyuri Proceed, Sen. Cherarkey. (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Temporary Speaker)

Sen. Okenyuri Your time is up, Sen. Tobiko. Proceed, Sen. Thang’wa.

Sen. Okenyuri Your time is up, Sen. Tobiko. Proceed, Sen. Thang’wa.

Sen. Okenyuri Your time is up, Sen. Tobiko. Proceed, Sen. Thang’wa.

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like any other thing, GMOs have pros and cons to it. The pros include; drought resistant crops, a shorter growth period, less use of pesticide and tastier food.I have also read of potatoes that have aspects of reducing cancer and things like that – medicinal food. GMO is a product...

Sen. Okenyuri Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. Seriously, the use of hunger cries does not justify a decision to allow GMOs in this country. This is actually unsettling and a clear violation of the principles of human rights. GMOs were banned in 2012. I wonder where they have been...

Sen. Faki proceed.

Asanti, Bw. Spika wa Muda kwa kunipa fursa hii kuchangia Hoja ya, Sen. Madzayo, kuhusu matumizi ya chakula cha GMOs ama vyakula vya kisaki-kwa Kiswahili sanifu- ama vyakula vya viini tete ambavyo Waziri wa Mambo ya Biashara alitangaza juzi viatakubaliwa nchini Kenya. Najiunga na wenzangu wanaopinga uamuzi wa waziri wa...

On a point of order.

What is your point of order, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale?

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, ni sahihi Sen. Faki kusema kwamba hivi vyakula vya GMOs viko na viini? Tafadhali kama ana maana ya chembe ambazo zinadhuru atueleze. Na pia atueleze viini vinasababisha magonjwa gani. Atuambie hivyo viini vinasababisha ugonjwa gani?

Sijasema chakula cha Genetically Modified Organisms (GMO) kina viini. Lakini GMO ni Genetically Modified foods ambapo genetics kwa Kiswahili tunaiita vinasaba. Vinasaba ndio genetics. Kwa hivyo hivi ni vinasaba tete kwa sababu ni vinasaba ambavyo havijulikani vimeundwa kwa misingi gani. Ndio vikaitwa vinasaba tete kwa sababu havikubaliki kisayansi. Bw. Spika...

utafiti wa Kisayansi wa kutosha kuthibitisha kuwa vyakula hivi vilikuwa salama kwa Wakenya.Mpaka sasa, hatujapata utafiti kamili wa kuthibitisha vyakula hivi viko salama kwa wakenya. Kule Kitui, kuna wakati ndugu zetu walifariki kwa kula mahindi yaliyokuwa yameharibiwa na sumu ya kuvu.Bw. Spika wa Muda, naomba unilinde kwa sababu sitaweza kumaliza....

I want to intervene so that we do not waste much time again. What is your point of order Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale?

Bw. Spika wa Muda, rekodi ya Nyumba hii lazima ionyeshe ukweli. Sen. Faki anatuambia maana ya viini ni genetics kwa lugha ya kimombo. Na kulingana na kamusi, na kwa idhini yako, naomba nisomee hii nyumba maana ya viini. Kulingana na kamusi ‘viini ama vijidudu kwa lugha ya kimombo ni germs...

That is not that--- Order Sen. Faki! Could you just--- The Senate Minority Leader (

On a point of order Mr. Temporary Speaker Sir.

What is your point of order Sen. Madzayo? (Sen. Madzayo spoke off record)

You are not on the microphone

Bw. Spika wa Muda, itakuwa ni tabia mbaya sana kama utaruhusu kitu kama hiki kutendeka. Kama Seneta anaongea, huwa kwa akili yake amejipanga vile ataeleza fikira zake. Ikiwa sasa itakuwa ni werevu au kusimama tu na kusema niko na hoja ya nidhamu, halafu aanze kuongea mambo kiholela, ni lazima ulinde...

That is not--- The Senate Minority Leader (

No! Ni makossa sana---

I directed earlier that we are going to stick to the five minutes program because of the limitation of time to debate this Motion. Sen. Faki, proceed to give conclusion. November 22, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 52

Bw. Spika wa Muda wakati wangu mwingi umetumika kwa hoja za nidhamu ambazo hazina msingi wa nidhamu yoyote. Bw. Spika wa Muda, Sen. (Dr) Khalwle anazungumzia germs ambavyo ni virusi. Lakini genetics ni viini ambavyo vinaunda mwili wa binadamu ama mwili wa mnyama yoyote ambaye anahusika. Hivyo basi tunasema kwa...

Sen. Nyamu, please proceed.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the matter before us is of national interest. We are being called upon as leaders to find solutions to the dire hunger facing our country. We are called upon to take care of the people we represent in this House. It is quite unfortunate that this...

Thank you, Sen. Nyamu. Sen. Sifuna, you have the Floor. You can proceed.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for giving me an opportunity to contribute to this particular debate. As you know, I am not a scientist, I am a lawyer. So, I will not stand here to argue the science. In fact, I took great exception to a statement by my...

are protesting a unilateral decision by the Government or the Cabinet to lift the ban without having allowed this broad discussion to happen.Secondly, there is a value called patriotism. Patriotism means you love your own country and you protect your own people. There have been arguments that the introduction of...

Sen. Sifuna, we are running out of time. Please conclude.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, just one minute, it is the last point. The position of the Catholic Church, which Sen. Sifuna is a baptised and confirmed member, is that this food called GMO is a no-go zone for us as Catholics. I thank you.

November 22, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 55

House for the next 10 minutes in order to accommodate the Hon. Senators who are in the queue.I want to request those who will get an opportunity to contribute to use two minutes for us to all have an opportunity to contribute to this.Sen. Thangw’a, you have the Floor.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. My heart bleeds very seriously for my country because when matters which pose existential threat to us are brought to this House, I expect us to suspend our bi-partisan nature as a House. When we choose to poison animals and plants, we are poisoning...

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, just a minute. Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale knows that 30 per cent of GMO food in the USA is used for biofuels and 8 per cent is used to make the fructose that makes corn syrup that is basically for processed sweets and then the rest is...

Senator, your time is up. Kindly proceed, Sen. Wamatinga.

Thank you, very much Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I am also surprised by the little knowledge that is in this House. Being an engineer, I want to say process optimization, modification, reengineering is actually undertaken to achieve more efficiency as has been raised here by Sen. Thang’wa. When you cross...

Thank you Senator. Let us now, listen to Sen. Osotsi.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. This House is a House of representative of the people. Whatever decision and resolution that we make here, it must resonate with the interest of the people we represent. However, if we come here and pursue interests of our political inclination then, we are...

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, this is corruption---

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. Seriously, the use of hunger cries does not justify a decision to allow GMOs in this country. This is actually unsettling and a clear violation of the principles of human rights. GMOs were banned in 2012. I wonder where they have been resuscitated from....

like any other thing, GMOs have pros and cons to it. The pros include; drought resistant crops, a shorter growth period, less use of pesticide and tastier food.I have also read of potatoes that have aspects of reducing cancer and things like that – medicinal food. GMO is a product...

Sen. Okenyuri Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. Seriously, the use of hunger cries does not justify a decision to allow GMOs in this country. This is actually unsettling and a clear violation of the principles of human rights. GMOs were banned in 2012. I wonder where they have been...

Sen. Faki proceed.

Asanti, Bw. Spika wa Muda kwa kunipa fursa hii kuchangia Hoja ya, Sen. Madzayo, kuhusu matumizi ya chakula cha GMOs ama vyakula vya kisaki-kwa Kiswahili sanifu- ama vyakula vya viini tete ambavyo Waziri wa Mambo ya Biashara alitangaza juzi viatakubaliwa nchini Kenya. Najiunga na wenzangu wanaopinga uamuzi wa waziri wa...

On a point of order.

What is your point of order, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale?

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, ni sahihi Sen. Faki kusema kwamba hivi vyakula vya GMOs viko na viini? Tafadhali kama ana maana ya chembe ambazo zinadhuru atueleze. Na pia atueleze viini vinasababisha magonjwa gani. Atuambie hivyo viini vinasababisha ugonjwa gani?

Sijasema chakula cha Genetically Modified Organisms (GMO) kina viini. Lakini GMO ni Genetically Modified foods ambapo genetics kwa Kiswahili tunaiita vinasaba. Vinasaba ndio genetics. Kwa hivyo hivi ni vinasaba tete kwa sababu ni vinasaba ambavyo havijulikani vimeundwa kwa misingi gani. Ndio vikaitwa vinasaba tete kwa sababu havikubaliki kisayansi. Bw. Spika...

utafiti wa Kisayansi wa kutosha kuthibitisha kuwa vyakula hivi vilikuwa salama kwa Wakenya.Mpaka sasa, hatujapata utafiti kamili wa kuthibitisha vyakula hivi viko salama kwa wakenya. Kule Kitui, kuna wakati ndugu zetu walifariki kwa kula mahindi yaliyokuwa yameharibiwa na sumu ya kuvu.Bw. Spika wa Muda, naomba unilinde kwa sababu sitaweza kumaliza....

I want to intervene so that we do not waste much time again. What is your point of order Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale?

Bw. Spika wa Muda, rekodi ya Nyumba hii lazima ionyeshe ukweli. Sen. Faki anatuambia maana ya viini ni genetics kwa lugha ya kimombo. Na kulingana na kamusi, na kwa idhini yako, naomba nisomee hii nyumba maana ya viini. Kulingana na kamusi ‘viini ama vijidudu kwa lugha ya kimombo ni germs...

That is not that--- Order Sen. Faki! Could you just--- The Senate Minority Leader (

On a point of order Mr. Temporary Speaker Sir.

What is your point of order Sen. Madzayo? (Sen. Madzayo spoke off record)

You are not on the microphone

Bw. Spika wa Muda, itakuwa ni tabia mbaya sana kama utaruhusu kitu kama hiki kutendeka. Kama Seneta anaongea, huwa kwa akili yake amejipanga vile ataeleza fikira zake. Ikiwa sasa itakuwa ni werevu au kusimama tu na kusema niko na hoja ya nidhamu, halafu aanze kuongea mambo kiholela, ni lazima ulinde...

That is not--- The Senate Minority Leader (

No! Ni makossa sana---

I directed earlier that we are going to stick to the five minutes program because of the limitation of time to debate this Motion. Sen. Faki, proceed to give conclusion. November 22, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 52

Bw. Spika wa Muda wakati wangu mwingi umetumika kwa hoja za nidhamu ambazo hazina msingi wa nidhamu yoyote. Bw. Spika wa Muda, Sen. (Dr) Khalwle anazungumzia germs ambavyo ni virusi. Lakini genetics ni viini ambavyo vinaunda mwili wa binadamu ama mwili wa mnyama yoyote ambaye anahusika. Hivyo basi tunasema kwa...

Sen. Nyamu, please proceed.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the matter before us is of national interest. We are being called upon as leaders to find solutions to the dire hunger facing our country. We are called upon to take care of the people we represent in this House. It is quite unfortunate that this...

Thank you, Sen. Nyamu. Sen. Sifuna, you have the Floor. You can proceed.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for giving me an opportunity to contribute to this particular debate. As you know, I am not a scientist, I am a lawyer. So, I will not stand here to argue the science. In fact, I took great exception to a statement by my...

are protesting a unilateral decision by the Government or the Cabinet to lift the ban without having allowed this broad discussion to happen.Secondly, there is a value called patriotism. Patriotism means you love your own country and you protect your own people. There have been arguments that the introduction of...

Sen. Sifuna, we are running out of time. Please conclude.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, just one minute, it is the last point. The position of the Catholic Church, which Sen. Sifuna is a baptised and confirmed member, is that this food called GMO is a no-go zone for us as Catholics. I thank you.

November 22, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 55

House for the next 10 minutes in order to accommodate the Hon. Senators who are in the queue.I want to request those who will get an opportunity to contribute to use two minutes for us to all have an opportunity to contribute to this.Sen. Thangw’a, you have the Floor.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. My heart bleeds very seriously for my country because when matters which pose existential threat to us are brought to this House, I expect us to suspend our bi-partisan nature as a House. When we choose to poison animals and plants, we are poisoning...

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, just a minute. Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale knows that 30 per cent of GMO food in the USA is used for biofuels and 8 per cent is used to make the fructose that makes corn syrup that is basically for processed sweets and then the rest is...

Senator, your time is up. Kindly proceed, Sen. Wamatinga.

Thank you, very much Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I am also surprised by the little knowledge that is in this House. Being an engineer, I want to say process optimization, modification, reengineering is actually undertaken to achieve more efficiency as has been raised here by Sen. Thang’wa. When you cross...

Thank you Senator. Let us now, listen to Sen. Osotsi.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. This House is a House of representative of the people. Whatever decision and resolution that we make here, it must resonate with the interest of the people we represent. However, if we come here and pursue interests of our political inclination then, we are...

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, this is corruption---

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. Seriously, the use of hunger cries does not justify a decision to allow GMOs in this country. This is actually unsettling and a clear violation of the principles of human rights. GMOs were banned in 2012. I wonder where they have been resuscitated from....

Sen. Okenyuri: Next Order. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. On behalf of the Nyamira Senator, Sen. Omogeni who is not here, I would love to welcome the Nyamira County Assembly Members to this House. I am from Kisii, so as our neighbours, we are grateful to host you here.We look...

Hon. Senators, let us rise. It is now 6.41 p.m., time to adjourn the House. The Senate, therefore stands adjourned to tomorrow, Wednesday 23rd November, 2022, at 2.30 p.m. The Senate rose at 6.41 p.m. November 22, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 58

like any other thing, GMOs have pros and cons to it. The pros include; drought resistant crops, a shorter growth period, less use of pesticide and tastier food.I have also read of potatoes that have aspects of reducing cancer and things like that – medicinal food. GMO is a product...

Sen. Okenyuri Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. Seriously, the use of hunger cries does not justify a decision to allow GMOs in this country. This is actually unsettling and a clear violation of the principles of human rights. GMOs were banned in 2012. I wonder where they have been...

Sen. Faki proceed.

Asanti, Bw. Spika wa Muda kwa kunipa fursa hii kuchangia Hoja ya, Sen. Madzayo, kuhusu matumizi ya chakula cha GMOs ama vyakula vya kisaki-kwa Kiswahili sanifu- ama vyakula vya viini tete ambavyo Waziri wa Mambo ya Biashara alitangaza juzi viatakubaliwa nchini Kenya. Najiunga na wenzangu wanaopinga uamuzi wa waziri wa...

On a point of order.

What is your point of order, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale?

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, ni sahihi Sen. Faki kusema kwamba hivi vyakula vya GMOs viko na viini? Tafadhali kama ana maana ya chembe ambazo zinadhuru atueleze. Na pia atueleze viini vinasababisha magonjwa gani. Atuambie hivyo viini vinasababisha ugonjwa gani?

Sijasema chakula cha Genetically Modified Organisms (GMO) kina viini. Lakini GMO ni Genetically Modified foods ambapo genetics kwa Kiswahili tunaiita vinasaba. Vinasaba ndio genetics. Kwa hivyo hivi ni vinasaba tete kwa sababu ni vinasaba ambavyo havijulikani vimeundwa kwa misingi gani. Ndio vikaitwa vinasaba tete kwa sababu havikubaliki kisayansi. Bw. Spika...

utafiti wa Kisayansi wa kutosha kuthibitisha kuwa vyakula hivi vilikuwa salama kwa Wakenya.Mpaka sasa, hatujapata utafiti kamili wa kuthibitisha vyakula hivi viko salama kwa wakenya. Kule Kitui, kuna wakati ndugu zetu walifariki kwa kula mahindi yaliyokuwa yameharibiwa na sumu ya kuvu.Bw. Spika wa Muda, naomba unilinde kwa sababu sitaweza kumaliza....

I want to intervene so that we do not waste much time again. What is your point of order Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale?

Bw. Spika wa Muda, rekodi ya Nyumba hii lazima ionyeshe ukweli. Sen. Faki anatuambia maana ya viini ni genetics kwa lugha ya kimombo. Na kulingana na kamusi, na kwa idhini yako, naomba nisomee hii nyumba maana ya viini. Kulingana na kamusi ‘viini ama vijidudu kwa lugha ya kimombo ni germs...

That is not that--- Order Sen. Faki! Could you just--- The Senate Minority Leader (

On a point of order Mr. Temporary Speaker Sir.

What is your point of order Sen. Madzayo? (Sen. Madzayo spoke off record)

You are not on the microphone

Bw. Spika wa Muda, itakuwa ni tabia mbaya sana kama utaruhusu kitu kama hiki kutendeka. Kama Seneta anaongea, huwa kwa akili yake amejipanga vile ataeleza fikira zake. Ikiwa sasa itakuwa ni werevu au kusimama tu na kusema niko na hoja ya nidhamu, halafu aanze kuongea mambo kiholela, ni lazima ulinde...

That is not--- The Senate Minority Leader (

No! Ni makossa sana---

I directed earlier that we are going to stick to the five minutes program because of the limitation of time to debate this Motion. Sen. Faki, proceed to give conclusion. November 22, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 52

Bw. Spika wa Muda wakati wangu mwingi umetumika kwa hoja za nidhamu ambazo hazina msingi wa nidhamu yoyote. Bw. Spika wa Muda, Sen. (Dr) Khalwle anazungumzia germs ambavyo ni virusi. Lakini genetics ni viini ambavyo vinaunda mwili wa binadamu ama mwili wa mnyama yoyote ambaye anahusika. Hivyo basi tunasema kwa...

Sen. Nyamu, please proceed.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the matter before us is of national interest. We are being called upon as leaders to find solutions to the dire hunger facing our country. We are called upon to take care of the people we represent in this House. It is quite unfortunate that this...

Thank you, Sen. Nyamu. Sen. Sifuna, you have the Floor. You can proceed.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for giving me an opportunity to contribute to this particular debate. As you know, I am not a scientist, I am a lawyer. So, I will not stand here to argue the science. In fact, I took great exception to a statement by my...

are protesting a unilateral decision by the Government or the Cabinet to lift the ban without having allowed this broad discussion to happen.Secondly, there is a value called patriotism. Patriotism means you love your own country and you protect your own people. There have been arguments that the introduction of...

Sen. Sifuna, we are running out of time. Please conclude.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, just one minute, it is the last point. The position of the Catholic Church, which Sen. Sifuna is a baptised and confirmed member, is that this food called GMO is a no-go zone for us as Catholics. I thank you.

November 22, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 55

House for the next 10 minutes in order to accommodate the Hon. Senators who are in the queue.I want to request those who will get an opportunity to contribute to use two minutes for us to all have an opportunity to contribute to this.Sen. Thangw’a, you have the Floor.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. My heart bleeds very seriously for my country because when matters which pose existential threat to us are brought to this House, I expect us to suspend our bi-partisan nature as a House. When we choose to poison animals and plants, we are poisoning...

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, just a minute. Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale knows that 30 per cent of GMO food in the USA is used for biofuels and 8 per cent is used to make the fructose that makes corn syrup that is basically for processed sweets and then the rest is...

Senator, your time is up. Kindly proceed, Sen. Wamatinga.

Thank you, very much Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I am also surprised by the little knowledge that is in this House. Being an engineer, I want to say process optimization, modification, reengineering is actually undertaken to achieve more efficiency as has been raised here by Sen. Thang’wa. When you cross...

Thank you Senator. Let us now, listen to Sen. Osotsi.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. This House is a House of representative of the people. Whatever decision and resolution that we make here, it must resonate with the interest of the people we represent. However, if we come here and pursue interests of our political inclination then, we are...

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, this is corruption---

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. Seriously, the use of hunger cries does not justify a decision to allow GMOs in this country. This is actually unsettling and a clear violation of the principles of human rights. GMOs were banned in 2012. I wonder where they have been resuscitated from....

Sen. Okenyuri: Next Order. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. On behalf of the Nyamira Senator, Sen. Omogeni who is not here, I would love to welcome the Nyamira County Assembly Members to this House. I am from Kisii, so as our neighbours, we are grateful to host you here.We look...

Sen. Okenyuri: Next Order. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. On behalf of the Nyamira Senator, Sen. Omogeni who is not here, I would love to welcome the Nyamira County Assembly Members to this House. I am from Kisii, so as our neighbours, we are grateful to host you here.We look...