Sifuna Edwin Watenya

Sen. Sifuna First of all, thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for the indulgence. As the House is aware, on the day there was a Special Sitting to mourn the late Raila Amolo Odinga, I was not in the House because I was amongst those who had been tasked to travel...

Sen. Sifuna Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on National Security, Defence and Foreign Relations on a matter of national concern regarding deaths and injuries sustained by some members of the public during the public...

Sen. Sifuna Hon. Speaker, Sir, that debate happened in Busia. I wish to forfeit my remaining time because the points I wanted to make on that particular Bill have been made. Thank you, Hon. Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Sifuna I think it is the meal you have consumed because we are in the same environment. It is something that must have ---

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Sen. Sifuna[The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) left the Chair] COMMEMORATION OF DYSLEXIA AWARENESS MONTH [The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) left the Chair] October 8, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 24 [The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) in the Chair] October 8, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 25 Sen. Sifuna Bill and ensuring the teachers are properly trained...

Sen. Sifuna It may be in liquid form.

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Sen. Sifuna Hon. Sifuna, having explained your absence to the satisfaction of the Chair, I reinstate the statements by Senator Crystal Asige. You may, therefore, proceed to read those statements.

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like to warn that you are waddling into a dangerous territory. I do not think that culturally, you have powers to determine what is culturally right amongst the people of Mulembe. Mr. Speaker, Sir, with due respect, when we come to the Mijikenda,...

Sen. Sifuna Hon. Speaker, Sir, allow me with great sadness to contribute to the statement that has been sought by Sen. Methu regarding the death, once again, of a young Kenyan in police custody, that of Mr. Simon Warui. People say all sorts of things when I bring up these...

Sen. Sifuna Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I am making this Statement on behalf of the Chairperson, Sen. Moses Otieno Kajwang,’ who is away. October 1, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 18817 Sen. SifunaMr. Speaker, Sir, I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.56(1)(b) to make a statement on the activities of the...

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, allow me to start with the Statement by the Senator from Busia, the Hon. Okiya Omtatah. For a very long time, we in leadership positions in this country, have ignored the financial management of our public hospitals, especially the Kenyatta National Hospital (KNH) . That...

Sen. Sifuna Sen. Cherarkey, I will throw you out of this Chamber right away.

Sen. Sifuna Do not listen to the Senator, Sen. Sifuna. Just proceed and ask your question, Senator.

Sen. Sifuna Proceed.

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Sen. Sifuna Sen. Abdillahi Abdulrahman.

Sen. Sifuna, I had directed that we ask questions related to the primary question. That is a very pertinent issue that you are raising, which can even stop this House from proceeding to the afternoon. I request you to even adjourn the House. You have those powers so that we...

Sen. Sifuna Sen. Sifuna, you are out of order. You know I am always very lenient with you. Now you are trying to test my coolness.

Sen. Sifuna Sen. Sifuna, I had directed that we ask questions related to the primary question. That is a very pertinent issue that you are raising, which can even stop this House from proceeding to the afternoon. I request you to even adjourn the House. You have those powers so...

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, perhaps you could guide whether we are also expecting the Cabinet Secretary for Defence because she was scheduled to appear.

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is very frustrating for me as a representative of the people. Except for going to her house, I do not know how else I will reach the Cabinet Secretary for Defence. We, as the leadership of Nairobi, all the 19 of us elected to...

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Sen. Sifuna I am sorry, Hon. Speaker, Sir, but I know we did not suspend humour in our Standing Orders. So, it was said with a light touch. Unlike in his case, the intervention of the Serjeant-at-Arms has never been needed when it comes to me because I respect the...

Sen. Sifuna Thank you, Hon. Speaker, Sir. On behalf of the Senate, I want to inform the students and the teachers from Homa Bay County that their Senator has been sent out on official duties. That is why he is not here. The auxiliary Senator for Homa Bay County, Hon....

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Sen. Sifuna Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, thank you for that kind indulgence. These young children from Zion School, Utawala, came in early before the session began and we were having a small conversation with them. I asked them if they knew who I was and September 25, 2025 SENATE DEBATES...

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Sen. Sifunathat the word “ingokho” has the word “ingo” inside it. I would like the Senate Majority Leader to understand. In ingokho, we have ingo.When you see that bird, it means there is a home around there. That bird is a sign that the area is settled. Therefore, it was...

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Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker, for this opportunity to also make my contribution to this Report by our Committee on Delegated Legislation. September 25, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 42

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Sen. Sifuna Senate Majority Leader, he said that regulations were passed without knowing or by operation of law they became law because of timelines. It could not then have been that you passed without knowing.

Sen. Sifuna: Sen. Sifuna:where this conversation about donations is coming from. It is not possible to donate a house. I wish my Whip was here, so that I educate him a bit. I am afraid that he sometimes gets the wrong information from social media and runs to Parliament to...

Let him raise the point of order.

What is your point of order, Sen. Mo Fire? (Sen. Gataya Mo Fire spoke off record) Sen. Sifunastand, because at the end of the day, you cannot pass a Motion to amend statute which you have already put into law. It is very unfortunate that we never got opportunity.Secondly, Madam...

Sen. Sifuna, can you be informed? Sen. Sifuna No. I am teaching. I am in the middle of imparting information. Please, do not. What do you want to inform me? You will have your own opportunity to do this. Hon. Speaker, please, I do not like to be interrupted. This...

Sen. Sifuna Senate Majority Leader. September 25, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 39 Sen. Sifuna we still serving those people or these affordable houses paid for by my money, very painfully so, are available for donations because of someone sitting in the office of the Head of State? He can decide today...

Sen. SifunaI am sure he understands that the way he speaks to his first wife is not the same as what he tells his second wife. I am the Secretary General of the ODM, Senator and a Member of this House. I have many crowns. When I am in a...

Sen. Khalwale, Sen. Sifuna has explained himself the second time. Your allegation that he may have heaped praises on governors in Mombasa intended to suggest that compromise of oversight is mistaken. He has explained the context and I would wish that you abandon that line of argument. Proceed.

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I am fully guided and cautious about Sen. Sifuna. I am also cautious about Sen. Omar Hassan Emeritus. These are the Secretary Generals of a mongrel of a political party called Orange Democratic Movement (ODM) United Democratic Alliance (UDA) Broad-based---

Sen. Sifunahappened. As we speak today, I think the county governors are telling us in the County Public Accounts Committee (CPAC) that the last disbursement they received was for July. We are asking ourselves certain questions.If indeed this document is supposed to tie the hands of the National Treasury so...

Sen. Sifuna Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I have two Statements. With your kind permission, I request that I take both of them at once. The first one is on the increase in Technical and Vocational Education and Training Institutions (TVET) fees. September 24, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 5 Sen. SifunaI...

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, I want to make a polite request that as Members of this House, we might need some guidance on admissibility of evidence. I believe this is the second time that a Member has attempted to substantiate, but the Speaker has found that the material was...

Sen. Sifuna Madam Temporary Speaker, I honestly disagree with the Majority Leader. I believe that every business that we transact here is important. Whereas we might think that the Disbursement Schedule is important, nobody follows that thing after we pass it. The National Treasury never follows that Schedule to disburse...

Sen. Sifuna Madam Temporary Speaker, people know I wear different crowns. I am a Member of this House and a Senator. I am a member of the Kenya Moja caucus. I am also an SG. I am a father and a husband. When I am talking about my daughter, surely,...

Next Order. IMPLEMENTATION OF AN AUTOMATED AND DECENTRALISED CERTIFICATE OF GOOD CONDUCT SYSTEM.

Could the Mover now reply? Hon. Senators, I now put the question. (Question put and agreed to)

Next Order. NOTING OF REPORT OF THE PARLIAMENT OF KENYA DELEGATION TO THE 2025 HEARING OF THE IPU HELD AT THE UN, NEW YORK

Hon. Senators, I now put the question. (Question put and agreed to)

Next Order. September 24, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 29 NOTING OF REPORT ON THE 67TH CPA CONFERENCE HELD IN SYDNEY, 2025

Hon. Senators, I now put the question. (Question put and agreed to)

Next Order.

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, let me join the Senate Majority Leader in expressing my disappointment. If you look at the matters that we were to have conversations with the Minister today; Nairobi is under attack from land grabbers. These are matters that are urgent. If you look at the...

Sen. Sifuna Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I would like to comment on the Statement that has been sought by Hon. Catherine Mumma on the evictions at the Old Ngara Estate. Towards the end of May, the Member of County Assembly (MCA) for Ngara, hon. Chege Mwaura, called me...

Is that change of the directions? You had allowed us to call---

I have not changed. You are still prosecuting your case, but you must allow them to interrogate each of them because it is their right.

That is okay, Madam Temporary Speaker.

Hon. Senators and Madam Temporary Speaker, the joint affidavit is at pages 113 to 116---

Counsel Katwa Kigen, are you ready? We will ask the clerks to be very fast in administration of the oath. Please, proceed.

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. They are not 16, but

To give a guide to that issue, so that you are reasonable and fair to your colleagues, Counsel Katwa Kigen, you will require to present your evidence in such a manner that the other counsel are able to interrogate, but you still keep within your timeline if you choose to...

Then do not call in a group of 16 and expect them to interrogate the witnesses. Whichever way you prosecute it, allow them to interrogate each of the witnesses.

Sen. Sifuna Maybe by way of guidance, it is their case and they have a time limitation. They should keep within the time limit they have been given by the Senate. How he chooses to direct or prosecute his case, that is upon him. We will only require him to...

Maybe by way of guidance, it is their case and they have a time limitation. They should keep within the time limit they have been given by the Senate. How he chooses to direct or prosecute his case, that is upon him. We will only require him to keep within...

I have considered and I prefer to do it the way I had judged.

Proceed, but keep it within the time limit we have given you as the Senate.

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker.

Can I say something, Madam Temporary Speaker? It is related to that issue.

Proceed.

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. One of the things my team has to prepare for is to cross-examine these witnesses. In my two decades of practice, I have never cross-examined 16 people at ago, because cross-examination means you deal with one person at a time, then tie the notes together....