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Sen. Oketch Gicheru No. I am always prepared. I was born ready. This is one of the most crucial Statements because it fundamentally contributes to the recovery of the manufacturing industry in our country. I beseech the relevant Committee to advance the conversations around policies on taxes. If you observed...

Sen. Oketch Gicheru Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I do not know why you always doubt me. You have just said you do not have ears and eyes.

Sen. Oketch Gicheru Yes, I am.

Sen. Oketch GicheruHe keeps on using that term in this House and misleading the House with that term thus ending up misleading the entire country. I wanted to invite the ruling of the Speaker once and for all; that can Sen. Cherarkey tell this House and this nation who voted...

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I am rendering a ruling on your point of order. So, to that extent, I overrule your point of order and allow the Senator for Nandi to proceed to conclude his Statement.

Mr. Speaker, Sir---

Proceed, Sen. Cherarkey, I have made my ruling on this matter let us proceed.

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

What is your point of order?

Mr. Speaker, Sir, we have found ourselves in this situation before. What the Senator for Migori was objecting to was not the use of the term “handshake”. It was the use of the phrase “handshake government” and attribution to some of the things that happened to this creature called “handshake...

Very well, Sen. Sifuna.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, allow me to conclude because I only have one point left.

Proceed.

The Senator is on a point of order. You certainly cannot raise a point of order on a point of order.

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Sen. Oketch Gicheru Sen. Oketch Gicheru, kindly resume your seat. (Loud consultations)

Sen. Oketch Gicheru, kindly resume your seat. Sen. Oketch Gicheru Madam Temporary Speaker, Sen. Cherarkey cannot take advantage of you as a Chair and say things that do not exist. It is not okay.

Sen. Oketch Gicheru Mr. Speaker, Sir, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale is getting away with a lot of mischief. I rise on Standing Order No.105 as well on responsibility for statement of fact. Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale has said categorically in this House that the COVID-19 money, especially the one used in Kakamega,...

Sen. Oketch Gicheru On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Oketch Gicheru Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is not ordinary for me to stop any Chair of any Committee at this point of presentation. However, I have heard Sen. Tabitha Mutinda reading that the Statement on pre-lending was concluded on. I am a Member of that Committee and that Statement...

Sen. Oketch GicheruHe keeps on using that term in this House and misleading the House with that term thus ending up misleading the entire country. I wanted to invite the ruling of the Speaker once and for all; that can Sen. Cherarkey tell this House and this nation who voted...

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I am rendering a ruling on your point of order. So, to that extent, I overrule your point of order and allow the Senator for Nandi to proceed to conclude his Statement.

Mr. Speaker, Sir---

Proceed, Sen. Cherarkey, I have made my ruling on this matter let us proceed.

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

What is your point of order?

Mr. Speaker, Sir, we have found ourselves in this situation before. What the Senator for Migori was objecting to was not the use of the term “handshake”. It was the use of the phrase “handshake government” and attribution to some of the things that happened to this creature called “handshake...

Very well, Sen. Sifuna.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, allow me to conclude because I only have one point left.

Proceed.

The Senator is on a point of order. You certainly cannot raise a point of order on a point of order.

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Sen. Oketch Gicheru Sen. Oketch Gicheru, kindly resume your seat. (Loud consultations)

Sen. Oketch Gicheru, kindly resume your seat. Sen. Oketch Gicheru Madam Temporary Speaker, Sen. Cherarkey cannot take advantage of you as a Chair and say things that do not exist. It is not okay.

Sen. Oketch GicheruHe keeps on using that term in this House and misleading the House with that term thus ending up misleading the entire country. I wanted to invite the ruling of the Speaker once and for all; that can Sen. Cherarkey tell this House and this nation who voted...

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I am rendering a ruling on your point of order. So, to that extent, I overrule your point of order and allow the Senator for Nandi to proceed to conclude his Statement.

Mr. Speaker, Sir---

Proceed, Sen. Cherarkey, I have made my ruling on this matter let us proceed.

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

What is your point of order?

Mr. Speaker, Sir, we have found ourselves in this situation before. What the Senator for Migori was objecting to was not the use of the term “handshake”. It was the use of the phrase “handshake government” and attribution to some of the things that happened to this creature called “handshake...

Very well, Sen. Sifuna.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, allow me to conclude because I only have one point left.

Proceed.

The Senator is on a point of order. You certainly cannot raise a point of order on a point of order.

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Sen. Oketch Gicheru Sen. Oketch Gicheru, kindly resume your seat. (Loud consultations)

Sen. Oketch Gicheru, kindly resume your seat. Sen. Oketch Gicheru Madam Temporary Speaker, Sen. Cherarkey cannot take advantage of you as a Chair and say things that do not exist. It is not okay.

Sen. Oketch Gicheru Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the HELB and the Ministry of Education should fact check the universities well. You know one of the principals in Azimio has a fake degree. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, what I am saying is simple. We must agree as a nation to believe...

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the HELB and the Ministry of Education should fact check the universities well. You know one of the principals in Azimio has a fake degree. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, what I am saying is simple. We must agree as a nation to believe in public institutions....

Sen. Oketch GicheruThe one innovative thing that the Government can do on the issue of street children is to, first, give them a chance to be registered. Registering them and giving them Identification Cards (IDs) will give them a sense of belonging to the country and then every other thing...

Sen. Cherarkey, you did not mince your words in your comments. Thank you for that. Sen. (Prof.) Kamar, you have the Floor.

Sen. Oketch Gicheru, you have one minute as you close. Sen. Oketch Gicheru Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, some of these Statements are very important to dissect. This Statement should even come as a Motion for us to discuss it further. This House should also try as much as possible that...

Sen. Mwaruma, do you have a comment to the Statements or you want to read yours because I am seeing in the Order Paper, your Statement is equally listed for today?

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I want to comment about a Statement by Sen. Kibwana and later on, read my Statement.

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Sen. Oketch Gicheru Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the HELB and the Ministry of Education should fact check the universities well. You know one of the principals in Azimio has a fake degree. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, what I am saying is simple. We must agree as a nation to believe...

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the HELB and the Ministry of Education should fact check the universities well. You know one of the principals in Azimio has a fake degree. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, what I am saying is simple. We must agree as a nation to believe in public institutions....

Sen. Oketch GicheruThe one innovative thing that the Government can do on the issue of street children is to, first, give them a chance to be registered. Registering them and giving them Identification Cards (IDs) will give them a sense of belonging to the country and then every other thing...

Sen. Cherarkey, you did not mince your words in your comments. Thank you for that. Sen. (Prof.) Kamar, you have the Floor.

Sen. Oketch Gicheru, you have one minute as you close. Sen. Oketch Gicheru Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, some of these Statements are very important to dissect. This Statement should even come as a Motion for us to discuss it further. This House should also try as much as possible that...

Sen. Mwaruma, do you have a comment to the Statements or you want to read yours because I am seeing in the Order Paper, your Statement is equally listed for today?

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I want to comment about a Statement by Sen. Kibwana and later on, read my Statement.

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Sen. Oketch Gicheru Thank you once again, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. Yesterday, I did bring a Motion under Standing Order No.37 on a matter of national importance, namely the deteriorating security situation in the country. March 29, 2023 SENATE DEBATES 23 Sen. Oketch GicheruAs I was moving my Motion, the...

Sen. Oketch Gicheru Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Oketch Gicheru Yes. By the Chair who is the Speaker that today at the beginning of the business of this House, I was supposed to present evidence on the March 29, 2023 SENATE DEBATES 21 Sen. Oketch GicheruMotion that I brought in this House with regards to the issue...

Sen. Oketch Gicheru Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, yesterday, I was instructed by your Chair.

Sen. Oketch Gicheru Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I respect your guidance. However, a point of order can be raised anytime even on the matter that I want to raise a point of order on.

Sen. Oketch Gicheru On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Oketch Gicheru Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I did not attend Lenana School, but I did attend a pretty good school. I went to Friends School Kamusinga in Bungoma. I can see the faces of the students there getting excited. Friends School was a very good school; our motto...

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Yes, Madam Temporary Speaker.

Sen. Okenyuri.

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Yes, Madam Temporary Speaker, I implore Sen. Oketch Gicheru to embrace this move because the young people of Migori County are going to have an opportunity to also see how their good Senator is getting real time responses on their issues.

Sen. Mwaruma, please proceed.

Sen. Oketch Gicheru should also be very welcoming that I can actually recognize him as one of the few young Senators we have in this House making meaningful contributions. So, Sen. Oketch Gicheru, I implore you to support this move because the good people of Migori County---

Sen. Oketch GicheruOkenyuri is doing or the stranger is out of order. The stranger that is called a CS, may abuse me or does anything that is out of order.Which Standing Order will you use to take a stranger out of this House or to command the Serjeant-At-Arms to take...

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Sen. Oketch Gicheru I have not looked at the evidence yet. I will take my time to go through your evidence. (Laughter)

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Sen. Oketch Gicheru On a point of Order! March 28, 2023 SENATE DEBATES 46 Sen. Oketch Gicheru We saw young people going to the farm and cut trees. They even had time to slaughter sheep and carry some of the animals. They even had time to come back and burn...

On a point of Order! Sen. Oketch Gicheru(Loud consultations)

Sen. Oketch Gicheru On a point of order, Madam Temporary Speaker. (Loud consultations)

Sen. Oketch Gicheru, I would like that you stick to the Motion that you are bringing to the House without using names. If you have to state names of certain individuals or personalities, it is important that you substantiate or bring the evidence that links them to whatever you are...

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Sen. Oketch Gicheru Sen. Oketch Gicheru, I then direct you to table that evidence by tomorrow. March 28, 2023 SENATE DEBATES 48 Sen. Oketch Gicheru will table them in this House. I want to be on record that if I am needed to bring evidence and substantiate according to our...

Sen. Oketch Gicheru, I then direct you to table that evidence by tomorrow. Sen. Oketch Gicheru Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I will do that.

When the House business resumes tomorrow, you will table that evidence. Sen. Oketch Gicheru Madam Temporary Speaker, I will table the evidence of my utterances that led to the kind of violence that we saw yesterday.

I now give you one minute because your time is up. Sen. Oketch Gicheru Madam Temporary Speaker, I have been interrupted the entire Motion. I beg for two minutes.

Proceed on then. Sen. Oketch Gicheru Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. We have seen this kind of attack on private property and businesses in some counties in the excuse that some nationalistic leaders were giving them back to freedom fighters. In Zimbabwe, the Government of President Robert Mugabe tried to...

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Sen. Oketch Gicheru Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Is it in order for Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale to refer to a Senator of this House with a name that is not his and shouting at Sen. Okiya Omtatah as a mere activist? (Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale spoke off record) You have shouted...

Sen. Oketch Gicheru Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Look at the Senate Majority Leader--- (Sen. Oketch Gicheru laughed)

Sen. Oketch Gicheru Mr. Speaker, Sir, protect me from the Senate Majority Leader.

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Sen. Oketch Gicheru Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to give Notice of the following Motion, pursuant to Standing Order No. 37. THAT, the Senate do adjourn to discuss a definite matter of urgent national importance, namely; the deteriorating security situation in the country. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. March 28,...

Sen. Oketch Gicheru Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

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Sen. Oketch Gicheru On a point of Order! March 28, 2023 SENATE DEBATES 46 Sen. Oketch Gicheru We saw young people going to the farm and cut trees. They even had time to slaughter sheep and carry some of the animals. They even had time to come back and burn...

On a point of Order! Sen. Oketch Gicheru(Loud consultations)

Sen. Oketch Gicheru On a point of order, Madam Temporary Speaker. (Loud consultations)

Sen. Oketch Gicheru, I would like that you stick to the Motion that you are bringing to the House without using names. If you have to state names of certain individuals or personalities, it is important that you substantiate or bring the evidence that links them to whatever you are...

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Sen. Oketch Gicheru Sen. Oketch Gicheru, I then direct you to table that evidence by tomorrow. March 28, 2023 SENATE DEBATES 48 Sen. Oketch Gicheru will table them in this House. I want to be on record that if I am needed to bring evidence and substantiate according to our...

Sen. Oketch Gicheru, I then direct you to table that evidence by tomorrow. Sen. Oketch Gicheru Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I will do that.

When the House business resumes tomorrow, you will table that evidence. Sen. Oketch Gicheru Madam Temporary Speaker, I will table the evidence of my utterances that led to the kind of violence that we saw yesterday.

I now give you one minute because your time is up. Sen. Oketch Gicheru Madam Temporary Speaker, I have been interrupted the entire Motion. I beg for two minutes.

Proceed on then. Sen. Oketch Gicheru Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. We have seen this kind of attack on private property and businesses in some counties in the excuse that some nationalistic leaders were giving them back to freedom fighters. In Zimbabwe, the Government of President Robert Mugabe tried to...

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Sen. Oketch Gicheru Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Is it in order for Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale to refer to a Senator of this House with a name that is not his and shouting at Sen. Okiya Omtatah as a mere activist? (Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale spoke off record) You have shouted...

Sen. Oketch Gicheru Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Look at the Senate Majority Leader--- (Sen. Oketch Gicheru laughed)

Sen. Oketch Gicheru Mr. Speaker, Sir, protect me from the Senate Majority Leader.

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Sen. Oketch Gicheru On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Oketch Gicheru Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to give Notice of the following Motion, pursuant to Standing Order No. 37. THAT, the Senate do adjourn to discuss a definite matter of urgent national importance, namely; the deteriorating security situation in the country. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. March 28,...

Sen. Oketch Gicheru Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

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Sen. Oketch Gicheru Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I also rise to support the Motion from Sen. (Dr.) Murango on the issue of marketing of Kenya’s produce in foreign markets.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I also rise to support the Motion from Sen. (Dr.) Murango on the issue of marketing of Kenya’s produce in foreign markets. March 28, 2023 SENATE DEBATES 26