Beth Kalunda Syengo

Sen. Beth Syengo Mr. Speaker, Sir, thank you for giving me this opportunity. Allow me to start by congratulating my young sister, Sen. Tabitha Mutinda, for distinguishing herself as the President of the Scouts Movement. I also extend this November 25, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 6 Sen. Beth Syengowelcome to the...

Sen. Beth Syengo Mr. Speaker, Sir, thank you for giving me this opportunity. Allow me to start by congratulating my young sister, Sen. Tabitha Mutinda, for distinguishing herself as the President of the Scouts Movement. I also extend this November 25, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 6 Sen. Beth Syengowelcome to the...

Hon. Senators, it is now 6.30 p.m., time to adjourn the House. Sen. Beth, you will have eight more minutes when this debate resumes. The House will resume tomorrow, Wednesday, 8th October, 2025, at 9.30 a.m. The Senate rose at 6.32 p.m. October 7, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 57

Sen. Beth Syengo Hon. Senators, it is now 6.30 p.m., time to adjourn the House. Sen. Beth, you will have eight more minutes when this debate resumes. The House will resume tomorrow, Wednesday, 8th October, 2025, at 9.30 a.m. The Senate rose at 6.32 p.m. ADJOURNMENT

Sen. Beth Syengo

Sen. Beth Syengo

Sen. Beth Syengo

Sen. Beth Syengo

Sen. Beth Syengo Yes, I am now ready. Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. Let me start by congratulating my colleague, Sen. Miraj. This Bill is very important. Kenya is among the few countries that do not value their history enough to preserve it and ensure that younger generations learn about...

Sen. Beth Syengo

Hon. Senators, it is now 6.30 p.m., time to adjourn the House. Sen. Beth, you will have eight more minutes when this debate resumes. The House will resume tomorrow, Wednesday, 8th October, 2025, at 9.30 a.m. The Senate rose at 6.32 p.m. October 7, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 57

Sen. Beth Syengo Hon. Senators, it is now 6.30 p.m., time to adjourn the House. Sen. Beth, you will have eight more minutes when this debate resumes. The House will resume tomorrow, Wednesday, 8th October, 2025, at 9.30 a.m. The Senate rose at 6.32 p.m. ADJOURNMENT

Sen. Beth Syengo

Sen. Beth Syengo

Sen. Beth Syengo

Sen. Beth Syengo

Sen. Beth Syengo Yes, I am now ready. Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. Let me start by congratulating my colleague, Sen. Miraj. This Bill is very important. Kenya is among the few countries that do not value their history enough to preserve it and ensure that younger generations learn about...

Sen. Beth Syengo

Sen. Beth, are you introducing new evidence to the House? Sen. Beth Syengo Not evidence, but I want to prove that he is lying because he said he does not stay with the phone and it is here.

Sen. Beth Syengo Asante, Mheshimiwa, Bi. Spika wa Muda. Shahidi aliye kizimbani, nataraji unajua vita dhidi ya ufisadi umetia kasi sasa. Tukichunguza na tupate kwamba mlikula mlungula na kwamba umechukua nafasi ya popo ambaye siyo ndege wala mnyama, uko tayari kubeba msalaba wako kwa sababu hatutaruhusu kumsulibisha Kristo na tumwachilie...

Asante, Mheshimiwa, Bi. Spika wa Muda. Shahidi aliye kizimbani, nataraji unajua vita dhidi ya ufisadi umetia kasi sasa. Tukichunguza na tupate kwamba mlikula mlungula na kwamba umechukua nafasi ya popo ambaye siyo ndege wala mnyama, uko tayari kubeba msalaba wako kwa sababu hatutaruhusu kumsulibisha Kristo na tumwachilie Barnabas?

Sen. Mundigi what did you want to restate because you had already asked a question?

Bi. Spika wa Muda, swali langu halikuwa limejibiwa. Ningetaka nimulize tena ajibu kwa njia ifaayo kwa sababu ni swali muhimu.

Please, proceed to ask very briefly.

Shahidi, tumeona video kuhusu yaliyotokea kabla hamjapiga kura. Mlipokuwa mnazungumza kwa sababu yule aliyezungumza alikuwa anaongea kuhusu Shilingi 200,000. Pia hapo akasema mambo ya kwenda Rwanda. Seneti hii inataka kujua mlikuwa mnaongea usiku au mchana? Pia, wakati mlikuwa mnazungumza, alikuwa anaongea kama mlevi. Nawe unasema ni Mkatoliki. Ulikuwa upande gani...

Sen. (Dr.) Murango, have you abandoned your question? It will be---

Asante sana, Bi Spika wa Muda. Swali langu ni moja. Tungetaka tujue kama wewe ndiye ulinakili mawasiliano ambayo yamechezwa kwenye Bunge hili. Kama ni wewe ndiye ulinakili yale mawasiliano ambayo ulikuwa unapigiwa na mwenzako, ni vizuri pia kuelezea kama ni tabia yako kurekodi watu kila wakati unapigiwa simu. Kama sivyo,...

Witness, I will give you a chance, maybe five minutes to respond to all those queries because some have been repeated. Give direct answers, so that we can move on after five minutes.

Sen. Beth Syengo Let her be heard in silence. Hon. Senators, order. (An hon. Senator spoke off record) A question that has not been asked. (Loud consultations)

Sen. Beth Syengo Sen. Beth, are you introducing new evidence to the House? (Loud consultations)

Sen. Beth, you should ask questions based on the evidence he has adduced in the House; what is put on the Table of Senate. You cannot introduce evidence from the Senate. Sen. Beth Syengo Madam Temporary Speaker, I am not introducing evidence. I only wanted to prove that he is...

I have already overruled. You cannot introduce new evidence. Sen. Beth Syengo We will have Sen. Tabitha and then you will respond. August 29, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 60

We will have Sen. Tabitha and then you will respond.

Mr. Witness, Mheshimiwa. when Kapkatet Ward elected you, I am sure kuna kitu waliona kwako. Lakini sasa ukiangalia vile unajibu hayo maswali na kusema kuwa huku-vote na simu yako inaonekana ilifanya hiyo kazi,--- Kwa hivyo mimi ninaona watu wa Kapkatet wakikuangalia, at least jaribu wasione kama yule walichagua si mtu...

Can you proceed and respond to those issues, witness?

Yes. I did not say---

Proceed and answer those comments and questions.

I did not say the phone is not mine. The phone is mine. The one which is used for Facebook and WhatsApp is mine. I do not deny. However, to say that I voted, I never voted and my PA never voted. I have said the message is here. I...

Thank you, Senators. I think I want to get your consensus now, we discharge this witness. We have 17 more waiting to come in. You will find a chance to ask questions within the 17 more. They have sworn the same affidavit. So, the contents are the same that will...

Madam Temporary Speaker, with your permission, I had intended to call the expert. However, with the comments you had made, I wanted to request for your directions. I wanted to request to call the other remaining 16 we deal with them as a group and then we close with the...

That is okay Counsel Katwa. How you organise your case is within your discretion.

Thank you.

Sen. Sifuna, what is your intervention? Give Sen. Sifuna the microphone.

Sen. Beth, are you introducing new evidence to the House? Sen. Beth Syengo Not evidence, but I want to prove that he is lying because he said he does not stay with the phone and it is here.

Sen. Beth Syengo Asante, Mheshimiwa, Bi. Spika wa Muda. Shahidi aliye kizimbani, nataraji unajua vita dhidi ya ufisadi umetia kasi sasa. Tukichunguza na tupate kwamba mlikula mlungula na kwamba umechukua nafasi ya popo ambaye siyo ndege wala mnyama, uko tayari kubeba msalaba wako kwa sababu hatutaruhusu kumsulibisha Kristo na tumwachilie...

Asante, Mheshimiwa, Bi. Spika wa Muda. Shahidi aliye kizimbani, nataraji unajua vita dhidi ya ufisadi umetia kasi sasa. Tukichunguza na tupate kwamba mlikula mlungula na kwamba umechukua nafasi ya popo ambaye siyo ndege wala mnyama, uko tayari kubeba msalaba wako kwa sababu hatutaruhusu kumsulibisha Kristo na tumwachilie Barnabas?

Sen. Mundigi what did you want to restate because you had already asked a question?

Bi. Spika wa Muda, swali langu halikuwa limejibiwa. Ningetaka nimulize tena ajibu kwa njia ifaayo kwa sababu ni swali muhimu.

Please, proceed to ask very briefly.

Shahidi, tumeona video kuhusu yaliyotokea kabla hamjapiga kura. Mlipokuwa mnazungumza kwa sababu yule aliyezungumza alikuwa anaongea kuhusu Shilingi 200,000. Pia hapo akasema mambo ya kwenda Rwanda. Seneti hii inataka kujua mlikuwa mnaongea usiku au mchana? Pia, wakati mlikuwa mnazungumza, alikuwa anaongea kama mlevi. Nawe unasema ni Mkatoliki. Ulikuwa upande gani...

Sen. (Dr.) Murango, have you abandoned your question? It will be---

Asante sana, Bi Spika wa Muda. Swali langu ni moja. Tungetaka tujue kama wewe ndiye ulinakili mawasiliano ambayo yamechezwa kwenye Bunge hili. Kama ni wewe ndiye ulinakili yale mawasiliano ambayo ulikuwa unapigiwa na mwenzako, ni vizuri pia kuelezea kama ni tabia yako kurekodi watu kila wakati unapigiwa simu. Kama sivyo,...

Witness, I will give you a chance, maybe five minutes to respond to all those queries because some have been repeated. Give direct answers, so that we can move on after five minutes.

Sen. Beth Syengo Let her be heard in silence. Hon. Senators, order. (An hon. Senator spoke off record) A question that has not been asked. (Loud consultations)

Sen. Beth Syengo Sen. Beth, are you introducing new evidence to the House? (Loud consultations)

Sen. Beth, you should ask questions based on the evidence he has adduced in the House; what is put on the Table of Senate. You cannot introduce evidence from the Senate. Sen. Beth Syengo Madam Temporary Speaker, I am not introducing evidence. I only wanted to prove that he is...

I have already overruled. You cannot introduce new evidence. Sen. Beth Syengo We will have Sen. Tabitha and then you will respond. August 29, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 60

We will have Sen. Tabitha and then you will respond.

Mr. Witness, Mheshimiwa. when Kapkatet Ward elected you, I am sure kuna kitu waliona kwako. Lakini sasa ukiangalia vile unajibu hayo maswali na kusema kuwa huku-vote na simu yako inaonekana ilifanya hiyo kazi,--- Kwa hivyo mimi ninaona watu wa Kapkatet wakikuangalia, at least jaribu wasione kama yule walichagua si mtu...

Can you proceed and respond to those issues, witness?

Yes. I did not say---

Proceed and answer those comments and questions.

I did not say the phone is not mine. The phone is mine. The one which is used for Facebook and WhatsApp is mine. I do not deny. However, to say that I voted, I never voted and my PA never voted. I have said the message is here. I...

Thank you, Senators. I think I want to get your consensus now, we discharge this witness. We have 17 more waiting to come in. You will find a chance to ask questions within the 17 more. They have sworn the same affidavit. So, the contents are the same that will...

Madam Temporary Speaker, with your permission, I had intended to call the expert. However, with the comments you had made, I wanted to request for your directions. I wanted to request to call the other remaining 16 we deal with them as a group and then we close with the...

That is okay Counsel Katwa. How you organise your case is within your discretion.

Thank you.

Sen. Sifuna, what is your intervention? Give Sen. Sifuna the microphone.

Sen. Beth, are you introducing new evidence to the House? Sen. Beth Syengo Not evidence, but I want to prove that he is lying because he said he does not stay with the phone and it is here.

Sen. Beth Syengo Asante, Mheshimiwa, Bi. Spika wa Muda. Shahidi aliye kizimbani, nataraji unajua vita dhidi ya ufisadi umetia kasi sasa. Tukichunguza na tupate kwamba mlikula mlungula na kwamba umechukua nafasi ya popo ambaye siyo ndege wala mnyama, uko tayari kubeba msalaba wako kwa sababu hatutaruhusu kumsulibisha Kristo na tumwachilie...

Asante, Mheshimiwa, Bi. Spika wa Muda. Shahidi aliye kizimbani, nataraji unajua vita dhidi ya ufisadi umetia kasi sasa. Tukichunguza na tupate kwamba mlikula mlungula na kwamba umechukua nafasi ya popo ambaye siyo ndege wala mnyama, uko tayari kubeba msalaba wako kwa sababu hatutaruhusu kumsulibisha Kristo na tumwachilie Barnabas?

Sen. Mundigi what did you want to restate because you had already asked a question?

Bi. Spika wa Muda, swali langu halikuwa limejibiwa. Ningetaka nimulize tena ajibu kwa njia ifaayo kwa sababu ni swali muhimu.

Please, proceed to ask very briefly.

Shahidi, tumeona video kuhusu yaliyotokea kabla hamjapiga kura. Mlipokuwa mnazungumza kwa sababu yule aliyezungumza alikuwa anaongea kuhusu Shilingi 200,000. Pia hapo akasema mambo ya kwenda Rwanda. Seneti hii inataka kujua mlikuwa mnaongea usiku au mchana? Pia, wakati mlikuwa mnazungumza, alikuwa anaongea kama mlevi. Nawe unasema ni Mkatoliki. Ulikuwa upande gani...

Sen. (Dr.) Murango, have you abandoned your question? It will be---

Asante sana, Bi Spika wa Muda. Swali langu ni moja. Tungetaka tujue kama wewe ndiye ulinakili mawasiliano ambayo yamechezwa kwenye Bunge hili. Kama ni wewe ndiye ulinakili yale mawasiliano ambayo ulikuwa unapigiwa na mwenzako, ni vizuri pia kuelezea kama ni tabia yako kurekodi watu kila wakati unapigiwa simu. Kama sivyo,...

Witness, I will give you a chance, maybe five minutes to respond to all those queries because some have been repeated. Give direct answers, so that we can move on after five minutes.

Sen. Beth Syengo Let her be heard in silence. Hon. Senators, order. (An hon. Senator spoke off record) A question that has not been asked. (Loud consultations)

Sen. Beth Syengo Sen. Beth, are you introducing new evidence to the House? (Loud consultations)

Sen. Beth, you should ask questions based on the evidence he has adduced in the House; what is put on the Table of Senate. You cannot introduce evidence from the Senate. Sen. Beth Syengo Madam Temporary Speaker, I am not introducing evidence. I only wanted to prove that he is...

I have already overruled. You cannot introduce new evidence. Sen. Beth Syengo We will have Sen. Tabitha and then you will respond. August 29, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 60

We will have Sen. Tabitha and then you will respond.

Mr. Witness, Mheshimiwa. when Kapkatet Ward elected you, I am sure kuna kitu waliona kwako. Lakini sasa ukiangalia vile unajibu hayo maswali na kusema kuwa huku-vote na simu yako inaonekana ilifanya hiyo kazi,--- Kwa hivyo mimi ninaona watu wa Kapkatet wakikuangalia, at least jaribu wasione kama yule walichagua si mtu...

Can you proceed and respond to those issues, witness?

Yes. I did not say---

Proceed and answer those comments and questions.

I did not say the phone is not mine. The phone is mine. The one which is used for Facebook and WhatsApp is mine. I do not deny. However, to say that I voted, I never voted and my PA never voted. I have said the message is here. I...

Thank you, Senators. I think I want to get your consensus now, we discharge this witness. We have 17 more waiting to come in. You will find a chance to ask questions within the 17 more. They have sworn the same affidavit. So, the contents are the same that will...

Madam Temporary Speaker, with your permission, I had intended to call the expert. However, with the comments you had made, I wanted to request for your directions. I wanted to request to call the other remaining 16 we deal with them as a group and then we close with the...

That is okay Counsel Katwa. How you organise your case is within your discretion.

Thank you.

Sen. Sifuna, what is your intervention? Give Sen. Sifuna the microphone.

Sen. Beth Syengo Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Roads, Transportation and Housing on a matter of national concern on the operational status of security infrastructure at the Jomo Kenyatta International Airport, (JKIA) ,...

Sen. Beth Syengo Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Roads, Transportation and Housing on a matter of national concern on the operational status of security infrastructure at the Jomo Kenyatta International Airport, (JKIA) ,...

We come to the end of the comments on Statements. Therefore, we will proceed to Order No. 8. First of all, confirm whether we have quorum before I put the question. Okay, proceed, call out the number. NOTING OF REPORT ON THE 2025 IPU HEARING HELD IN NEW YORK

Sen. Beth SyengoSen. Edwin Sifuna, on the security of patients at the KNH. It is unfortunate that when patients are taken to hospital, their relatives expect them to be very safe. July 24, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 17 Sen. Beth Syengo Sen. Edwin Sifuna, on the security of patients at the...