Stewart Mwachiru Shadrack Madzayo

Sen. Madzayo) : Sen. Madzayo) : Thank you, Sen. (Dr.) Oburu. Finally, Sen. Miraj.

Sen. Madzayo): Sen. Madzayo):linaweza kuchukua hatua na likate kesi bila upendeleo wa aina yeyote, ili kuonyesha Wakenya ya kwamba Bunge hili liko juu.Asante. December 3, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 12

Hon. Senators, I will now proceed to propose the question. (Question proposed) Now, the Floor is open for debate. Yes, what is your intervention, Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe? PROCEDURAL MOTION LIMITATION OF DEBATE ON MOTION

linaweza kuchukua hatua na likate kesi bila upendeleo wa aina yeyote, ili kuonyesha Wakenya ya kwamba Bunge hili liko juu.Asante.

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Sen. Madzayo) : What is the point of order, Senator for Nandi?

Sen. Madzayo) : Sen. Madzayo) : Order, hon. Senators, May the Minority Leader be heard silence. Proceed to conclude. The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Madzayo) : Asante, Bw. Spika. Yale mambo tuliona kule yalikuwa ya kusitikitisha na ni lazima hatua ichukuliwe na Kamati na recommendation ifanywe ili mabadiliko yapatikane ndani...

Sen. Madzayo, please wind up your thoughts in 30 seconds. The Senate Minority Leader ( Sen. Madzayo) :kujenga daraja kwa muda mfupi, walikuja kule. Siku chache baadaye, walijenga daraja na watu wakaweza kuvuka mto.Kwa hivyo, nafurahia sana kazi inayofanywa na KDF. Wakati mwingine, Serikali inaweza kuwa haina pesa lakini kwa...

Asante, Bw. Spika, kwa kunipa nafasi ili niweze kuchangia taarifa inayohusu mambo ya KDF. Mimi ni mmoja wa wale wanaojua mambo ya KDF. Nakumbuka wakati nilipokuwa naelekea Turkwel Gorge kutoka Kitale, safari ndefu sana. Kulikuwa na mto mmoja kule West Pokot. Wakati mvua inaponyesha, watu hawakuwa wanaweza kuvuka huo mto....

Sen. Madzayo) : Sen. Madzayo, please wind up your thoughts in 30 seconds. The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Madzayo) : Kuna hii Bill ambayo ililetwa na dada yetu Sen. Hamida. Bill hiyo ilichukuliwa na watu wa Ministry of Health wakati ilikaribia kuwa sheria. Hilo ni jambo mbaya sana kwa sababu...

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Sen. Madzayo) : Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I also wish to recognise all the eminent persons whom the Senate has recognised this afternoon. Just to admit, coming to Busia was a blessing because for the first time, I am able to see Hon. Julia Ojiambo live; I just read...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I also wish to recognise all the eminent persons whom the Senate has recognised this afternoon. Just to admit, coming to Busia was a blessing because for the first time, I am able to see Hon. Julia Ojiambo live; I just read about her in...

Sen. Madzayo) : Hon. Senators, Sen. Beth Syengo had eight minutes to go, is she around? Is there anybody else who wants to speak to this? Proceed, Sen. Omogeni. Bi. Spika wa Muda, mimi ninaunga mkono sana. Uchimbaji wa madini ni lazima ufuate taratibu na vile, ni lazima ufuate sheria....

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Hon. Senators, in the interest of time, we will close our contributions on Statements and move on to the next order. Next Order. THE COUNTY HALL OF FAME BILL (SENATE BILL NO. 18 OF 2023) October 8, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 41

Sen. Madzayo) : Hon. Senators, I wish to propose the question. (Question proposed) The Floor is now open. You know exactly what to do to catch the Speaker's eye. Proceed, Sen. Ledama. Asante, Bw. Spika. Kwanza, naunga mkono yale yote yaliyosemwa hapa na Kiongozi wa Walio Wengi. Jambo muhimu kuhusu...

Very well, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

We will put our best foot forward.

Sen. Madzayo) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the challenges that Waziri has highlighted are across the country. He has highlighted challenges that are facing children going to school in Kilifi County, especially the girl-child. A few weeks ago, there was a case of prayers for food. What is the Ministry...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, thank you for that direction. However, I am just a bit skeptical because the headquarters of the Ministry of Defence are in Nairobi. If we are not able to secure her attendance in Nairobi, I do not know how much we can expect---

Thank you. (Resumption of Questions) So now, let us proceed to hear the responses from the Cabinet Secretary in charge of Education. Sen. Joe Nyutu, proceed.

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Now, in that letter, she had requested to appear on 4th November, 2025, which is way after the recruitment exercise. Now, with the concerns that have been raised, it will be more appropriate to engage the Cabinet Secretary before the recruitment exercise. The problem we find ourselves in is that...

Inasikitisha kwamba ikiwa Kaunti ya Kilifi imepangiwa kuchukua watoto kama mia tatu, katika orodha ya watu wanaochukuliwa kutoka Kilifi, Magarini watachukuwa wawili, Malindi mmoja, Ganze wawili, Kilifi South mmoja. Katika zile nambari wameziandika elfu kumi ambazo watachukuwa watoto kazi, inachukuliwa namna gani ikiwa Kilifi kwa jumla watachukua watoto kama kumi...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, let me confirm the dates because the advertisement was put out on 14th September, 2025. We took that step that I have referred to, to write to her immediately the next day, 15th September, 2025 as leaders of Nairobi and we have not been responded to; it...

Sen. Madzayo) : Sen. Madzayo) :Inasikitisha kwamba ikiwa Kaunti ya Kilifi imepangiwa kuchukua watoto kama mia tatu, katika orodha ya watu wanaochukuliwa kutoka Kilifi, Magarini watachukuwa wawili, Malindi mmoja, Ganze wawili, Kilifi South mmoja. Katika zile nambari wameziandika elfu kumi ambazo watachukuwa watoto kazi, inachukuliwa namna gani ikiwa Kilifi kwa...

Sen. Madzayo) : Okay, fair enough. What is your response to the question from Sen. Miraj? The Cabinet Secretary for Education (Hon. Julius Migos Ogamba) : Yes, for Sen. Miraj, we as a government, will support any initiative and any particular programme that will protect our children. So, we will...

Senator for Nairobi City County, you have said that recruitment is ongoing? I thought it is supposed to happen between 13th and 15th October,

Sen. Joyce Korir, I am struggling to get your point of order. I do not think the good doctor, Sen. Mundigi, has apprehended. You tend to provide information, Sen. Korir, but you want to put it across as a point of order. Honestly, you are giving a lot of information...

What is your point of order, Sen. Joyce Korir?

Is it in order for Hon. Mundigi to misguide the House by saying that tea farmers from the upper region sleep at tea buying centres and yet this is something that happens across board? He is talking about the crops planted in the eastern part which is also across the...

Asante, Bw. Spika, kwa kunipa nafasi ili nichangie mjadala kuhusu mambo ya kilimo. Mimi ni Naibu Mwenyekiti wa Kamati inayohusika na kilimo. Namshukuru Seneta Okenyuri kwa kuleta taarifa inayohusu mambo ya kilimo. Mambo ya kilimo si mchezo wa paka na panya. Nimesikia watu wakilalamika kuhusu mambo ya bei. Katika kilimo,...

Senator for Kilifi, Sen. Joyce Korir was on a point of order, so you cannot rise on a point of order against her. Sen. Olekina, I am informed that you had already utilised your three minutes. (Sen. Olekina spoke off record) No, from the table, you had utilised your three...

Sen. Madzayo) : Senator for Kilifi, Sen. Joyce Korir was on a point of order, so you cannot rise on a point of order against her. Sen. Olekina, I am informed that you had already utilised your three minutes. (Sen. Olekina spoke off record) No, from the table, you had...

Finalise whatever you are saying, then we will move to the next Order again. We will call it afresh. The Senate Minority Leader ( Sen. Madzayo) :I am reading this because, where I come from, there is a lack of water. There is also the issue of the healthcare system....

Sen. Madzayo) : I do not see any more interest. I now wish to call upon the Mover to reply. Okay. Kwa hivyo, Bi. Spika wa Muda, kuna umuhimu wa kwamba, ikifika saa ya uongozi katika hospitali hii, tusiweke makabila yetu ndani. Lazima tuangalie mtu ambaye ana uwezo na taaluma...

Sen. Madzayo) : Sen. Madzayo) :

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. Yesterday, I captured a number of my fellow Senators debate regarding the disbursement of funds to counties. It is very sad that we have only been around for close to three years and yet we have witnessed very serious disconnect between the Exchequer and the...

Next Order. (A Member spoke off record) No, I want it recalled because of the disorganisation of the Order, please. September 25, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 26 ADOPTION OF REPORT OF THE STANDING COMMITTEE ON FINANCE AND BUDGET ON THE COUNTY GOVERNMENTS (EQUITABLE SHARE) CASH DISBURSEMENT SCHEDULE FOR FY2025/2026

Sen. Madzayo) : Sen. Mariam, please proceed. In that case, allow me to stop there.

Sen. Madzayo) : Madam Temporary Speaker, from the word go, I want to declare that I support the Report of the Standing Committee on Finance and Budget. Counties are distinct governments. It is unfortunate that we are always lamenting about disbursements throughout the financial year. I feel like counties are...

Sen. Madzayo) : Proceed, Sen. Boni.

Sen. Madzayo) : On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Asante Bw. Spika. Mimi (Applause)

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