Anthony Kimani Ichung'wah

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)He normally sits here.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Today is one of those bad days. The Chairman of the Public Petitions Committee is very diligent. He is always here. I see him there all the time. Can you direct him to bring the response to the Petition by Chiforomodo before we recess? Hon....

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that the Gambling Control Bill (National Assembly Bill No.70 of 2023) be now read a Second Time. This Bill is related to the National Lottery Bill, 2023, which went through its Second Reading in today’s Morning Sitting. This Bill...

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Unfortunately, it is three in a population of 349 Members of the National Assembly and about 67 Senators. So, in a population of about 500 people, you can count three or four Members. If you go to the population outside there in our villages, it...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) I was actually lost but I have been guided by the Chairperson. Just to clarify, for Hon. Mwenje’s interest, Clause 19 (1) indicates that a public officer shall not be a party to or beneficiary of contract for the supply of goods, works or services...

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I want to beg Members, including Hon. Kaluma, to listen to me. He has not been listening to what Hon. Mutuse has been telling him. First, there was an earlier amendment to Clause 25 to delete the entire Clause, which was defeated....

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I have listened to the amendment by the Hon. Chairman on behalf of the Committee. He is leaving dependent children and removing the spouse, and I am just wondering whether your spouse is part of you, or they are construed to be...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Yes, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. That is what I wanted to clarify. The responsible commission, other than everybody reporting to EACC. Parliamentarians will deposit theirs with the Parliamentary Service Commission, and those in the Judiciary will deposit theirs with the Judicial Service Commission. This is to...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) I confirm that we agreed with the Chairman that we carry his amendment. This is one of the issues that were of great concern to almost everybody during the Second Reading. We cannot export our public duty to our families including our great-grandchildren, grandmothers, aunties,...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move that the House do report its consideration of the Conflict of Interest Bill (National Assembly Bill No.12 of 2023) and its approval thereof with amendments. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) 29th November 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said Report. I also request Hon. Owen Baya to second the Motion for agreement with the Report of the Committee of the whole House. I do not know if...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, just for the record, the re-committal of Clause 48 is because there cannot be concurrent investigations being conducted by reporting authorities and the EACC. For instance, a judge who is being investigated by the Judicial Service Commission (JSC) as the reporting authority...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) I have already justified. I do not know why the Clerk wants me to say it again. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari) : I will put the Question. 29th November 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 76 Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)be added, put and agreed...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I request Hon. Mukunji to second the Motion for agreement with the Report of the Committee of the whole House.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that the Gambling Control Bill (National Assembly Bill No.70 of 2023) be now read a Second Time. This Bill is related to the National Lottery Bill, 2023, which went through its Second Reading in today’s Morning Sitting. This Bill...

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Unfortunately, it is three in a population of 349 Members of the National Assembly and about 67 Senators. So, in a population of about 500 people, you can count three or four Members. If you go to the population outside there in our villages, it...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) I was actually lost but I have been guided by the Chairperson. Just to clarify, for Hon. Mwenje’s interest, Clause 19 (1) indicates that a public officer shall not be a party to or beneficiary of contract for the supply of goods, works or services...

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I want to beg Members, including Hon. Kaluma, to listen to me. He has not been listening to what Hon. Mutuse has been telling him. First, there was an earlier amendment to Clause 25 to delete the entire Clause, which was defeated....

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I have listened to the amendment by the Hon. Chairman on behalf of the Committee. He is leaving dependent children and removing the spouse, and I am just wondering whether your spouse is part of you, or they are construed to be...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Yes, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. That is what I wanted to clarify. The responsible commission, other than everybody reporting to EACC. Parliamentarians will deposit theirs with the Parliamentary Service Commission, and those in the Judiciary will deposit theirs with the Judicial Service Commission. This is to...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) I confirm that we agreed with the Chairman that we carry his amendment. This is one of the issues that were of great concern to almost everybody during the Second Reading. We cannot export our public duty to our families including our great-grandchildren, grandmothers, aunties,...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move that the House do report its consideration of the Conflict of Interest Bill (National Assembly Bill No.12 of 2023) and its approval thereof with amendments. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) 29th November 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said Report. I also request Hon. Owen Baya to second the Motion for agreement with the Report of the Committee of the whole House. I do not know if...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, just for the record, the re-committal of Clause 48 is because there cannot be concurrent investigations being conducted by reporting authorities and the EACC. For instance, a judge who is being investigated by the Judicial Service Commission (JSC) as the reporting authority...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) I have already justified. I do not know why the Clerk wants me to say it again. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari) : I will put the Question. 29th November 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 76 Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA)be added, put and agreed...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I request Hon. Mukunji to second the Motion for agreement with the Report of the Committee of the whole House.

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Yes, Hon. Speaker. I have a Statement that I wish to read. First, allow me to thank you for leading the Kenyan delegation to the 16th Meeting of the Bureau of Speakers of the East African Community (EAC) and the East African Legislative Assembly (EALA)...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Let me first thank Senior Counsel, Hon. Otiende Amollo, for those issues and, indeed, confirm that Hon. Otiende Amollo wrote a very detailed letter with all those 13 or 14 issues. He copied my Office, and I remember Hon. Speaker discussing...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Let me also commend you for that very well-reasoned ruling. You have touched on other very critical issues like Members who carry firearms. Indeed, it is worrying if any Member would even fathom walking into the Chamber with a firearm.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) At times tempers flare up here, especially between Hon. Junet and me. I am not sure I could be trusted with a firearm nor can I trust Hon. Junet carrying a firearm into the Chamber. You have also touched on dress code, which is very...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I will not name them. However, should the same be repeated, I will relay the names to your office so that you can also act. If the same happens again, let me just say it loud and clear that I will name you...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I mentioned that the Hon. Murugara, the Chair of the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs, is not in the House. To hear one of his Members, the Hon. Junet Mohamed, who from the records never 28th November 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES...

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, UDA)

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I mentioned that the Hon. Murugara, the Chair of the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs, is not in the House. To hear one of his Members, the Hon. Junet Mohamed, who from the records never 28th November 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES...

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, UDA)

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Let me also commend you for that very well-reasoned ruling. You have touched on other very critical issues like Members who carry firearms. Indeed, it is worrying if any Member would even fathom walking into the Chamber with a firearm.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) At times tempers flare up here, especially between Hon. Junet and me. I am not sure I could be trusted with a firearm nor can I trust Hon. Junet carrying a firearm into the Chamber. You have also touched on dress code, which is very...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I will not name them. However, should the same be repeated, I will relay the names to your office so that you can also act. If the same happens again, let me just say it loud and clear that I will name you...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move that the House reports its consideration of the National Government Constituencies Development Fund (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.13 of 2023) and its approval thereof with amendments. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) (The House resumed) IN...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I also ask Hon. Musa Sirma to second.

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Deputy Speaker, protect Hon. Toroitich from the Deputy Leader of the Majority Party, who is telling him to stand for Division alone. (Laughter) 28th November 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 42 Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, UDA)overburden the physical framework that we have and the commitments...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) I beg to move that the National Lottery Bill (National Assembly Bill No.69 of 2023) be now read a Second Time. Allow me to thank the Chairman who is Hon. Dan Wanyama, the Vice-Chairman, who is Hon. Githua Wamacukuru, all the Members of the Departmental...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I know that Hon. Caroli Omondi is a very diligent Member of the Committee. He was among the people I had spoken to in Mlolongo to make sure they put that. I am certain he wants to inform me that they have...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) I do not want to be informed now. He will inform me when he will be contributing.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) This will allow him not to eat into my time and allow other Members to contribute. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I was in Clause 6 of the Bill. Clause 6 (2) of the Bill says that the board may on its own or through legal agents...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I mentioned that the Hon. Murugara, the Chair of the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs, is not in the House. To hear one of his Members, the Hon. Junet Mohamed, who from the records never 28th November 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES...

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, UDA)

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I know Hon. Bowen Kangogo’s son was sitting for his KCPE and he has done extremely well. Congratulations to the young Kangogo for the exemplary performance in his KCPE. That is 23rd November 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 10 Hon. Kimani...

Order, Hon. Sunkuyia. Hon. Kimani Ichungw’ah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Deputy Speaker, Hon. Kangogo and Hon. Sunkuyia are being very bad examples to younger Members. They have been here long enough to know that these microphones pick up everything they converse in vernacular behind the person speaking. It is only fair...

Hon. Kimani Ichungw’ah (Kikuyu, UDA) Yes.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. In fact, the Chair of the Budget and Appropriations Committee has already made the point I wanted to make regarding what the Member for Nyando was saying. There is nothing untoward we are doing in rejecting all these amendments. The...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I rise to support the Public Debt and Privatization Committee’s Report. I particularly thank the Chair, Hon. Shurie, and his able Vice-Chair, Hon. Makali Mulu, who when I last passed through “Kitui City,” I heard he is a prospective Governor...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, there is a point of order. I truly hope that the person seeking the point of order can indicate the Standing Order she is rising on. (Laughter)

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I did not know Hon. Dorice Donya is a journalist. She knows that I have tremendous respect for journalists, but I meant that particular radio presenter is financially illiterate. It is a fact. I know him because he is from...