Thursday, 11th June, 2026

Clerk, confirm whether we have quorum.

Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly, ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes.

Order, hon. Senators. Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe and Kisang, take your seats. We now have quorum. Clerk, call out the first Order.

Hon. Senators, the Parliament of Kenya is in the process of updating its website. In this regard, standardised photographs of all honourable Senators will be required for this exercise. A professional photographer has been engaged and will be stationed outside the Senate Chamber today, Thursday, 11th June, 2026 and Tuesday, 16th June, 2026 from

Hon. Senators, I also have a message from the National Assembly on the passage of the Crops (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bills No. 8 of 2023) .

Sen. Wakoli, I will ignore the Senator for Kirinyaga but for you, second and last warning of the day.

I wish to report to the Senate that pursuant to Standing Order No. 46 (3) and (4) , I have received the following message from the Speaker of the National Assembly regarding the approval by the National Assembly of the Crops (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bills No. 8 of 2023) . The message dated Wednesday, 3rd June, 2026 was received in the Office of the Clerk of the Senate on Wednesday, 9th June, 2026.

Pursuant to Standing Order No. 46 (4) , I now report the message. Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Orders No. 41 (1) and 142 of the National Assembly Standing Orders, I hereby convey the following message from the National Assembly.

Whereas the Crops (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bills No. 8 of 2023) was published in the Kenya Gazette Supplement No.30 of 15th March, 2023 as a Bill seeking to amend the Crops Act, Cap 318, to include a short merengue as a scheduled crop; and whereas on Wednesday, 29th April, 2026, the National Assembly considered and passed the said Bill without amendments.

Now therefore, in accordance with the provisions of Article 110 (4) of the Constitution and Standing Orders No. 142 of the National Assembly Standing Orders, I hereby refer the said Bill to the Senate for consideration.

Hon. Senators, pursuant to Standing Orders No. 163, which requires that a Bill which originates in the National Assembly be proceeded with by the Senate in the same manner as a Bill introduced in the Senate by way of First Reading in accordance with

Standing Orders No. 144, I direct that the Crops (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bills No. 8 of 2023) be listed in the Order Paper to be read a First Time.

I thank you. Call out the next Order.

Senator Maanzo, you have the Floor.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, on behalf of the Chairperson, Standing Committee of Justice, Legal Affairs and Human Rights (JLAC) , I beg to lay the following paper on the Table of the Senate today, Thursday 11th June, 2026.

Report of the Standing Committee on Justice, Legal Affairs and Human Rights on its consideration of a Petition to the Senate by Mr. Laban Omusundi regarding the enactment of a legal framework to provide for recall of the President or governor through a citizen initiative.

I thank you.

Next Order. Sen. Maanzo, once again.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, on behalf of the Chairperson, JLAC, I beg to give notice of the following Motion:

THAT, the Senate adopts a report of the Standing Committee on Justice, Legal Affairs and Human Rights on its consideration of a Petition to the Senate by Mr. Laban Omusundi regarding the enactment of a legal framework to provide for the recall of the President or governor through a citizen initiative laid on the Table of the Senate on Thursday, 11th June, 2026.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir.

Thank you, Sen. Maanzo. Call the next Order.

Request for statements pursuant to Standing Order No. 53 (1) .

Sen. Okiya Omtatah?

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I have a request for a statement on non-disclosure of beneficial ownership in the Kenya Pipeline Company (KPC) .

I rise pursuant to Standing Order No. 53 (1) to seek a statement from the Standing Committee on Energy on a matter of national concern regarding the ownership structure and beneficial ownership disclosure of shareholders in KPC.

Hon. Senators, order. Allow Sen. Omtatah to be heard in silence. If you must consult, Sen. Chemitei, consult in low tones.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, Sen. Cheruiyot seems to have had some heavy lunch. Therefore, he is looking for ways to keep awake by interjecting all the time.

The Kenya Pipeline Company is a strategic national asset, central to the transportation, storage and management of petroleum products vital to Kenya's energy security and economic stability. The recently released KPC Initial Public Offer (IPO) information memorandum reveals that 90 per cent of the KPC's top shareholders are shielded by nominee accounts, with only two of the top 20 publicly identified; raising concerns regarding transparency in a critical national asset. This lack of transparency potentially violates constitutional requirements for accountability and public oversight, specifically Articles 10, 201 and 232 regarding the ownership of vital infrastructure.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, given the strategic importance of KPC in the country's energy sector, the opacity surrounding the beneficial ownership of a significant portion of its shareholding raises legitimate public interest concerns regarding potential concentration of influence, foreign control and conflict of interest and adequacy of safeguards protecting critical national infrastructure.

In this statement, the committee should address the following-

You are allowed to read the other two Statements, Sen. Omtatah.

My second request for a Statement is on the persistent internal governance wrangles at Cricket Kenya.

I rise pursuant to Standing Order No. 53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Labour and Social Welfare on a matter of national concern, regarding the persistent internal governance wrangles at Cricket Kenya, which has resulted in a decline in the performance of cricket sport in Kenya.

Kenya was once a respected global cricketing nation, having participated in five Cricket World Cups and attaining peak performance by reaching the semi-final stage in the 2003 ICC, Cricket World Cup.

In 2007, Kenya was ranked among the top cricket playing nations globally. However, the cricket sport in Kenya has since suffered a steep decline. This has largely been attributed to persistent internal governance wrangles at Cricket Kenya.

Several members of the Association have complained that recent elections of officials of the association held on 19th April, 2026, were conducted unprocedurally. Some members have been deliberately excluded from Annual General Meetings (AGMs) and that those in attendance are denied an opportunity to discuss the financial statements of the Association, as well as other governance matters.

This matter, if left unaddressed, threatens the future of cricket development in Kenya and risks international sanctions, withdrawal of funding and further damage to the country's sporting reputation.

In this Statement, the committee should address the following-

I believe that is the last Statement?

Yes. My third and final request for Statement is on the effectiveness of the Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission (EACC) in addressing recurring audit queries and public finance management irregularities.

I rise pursuant to Standing Order No. 53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Finance and Budget on a matter of national concern regarding the effectiveness of the EACC.

Hon. Senators, there is a lot of unnecessary interruptions and consultations in high tones.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I will take it again. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No. 53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Finance and Budget on a matter of national concern regarding the effectiveness of the EACC in addressing recurring audit queries, budgetary irregularities and systemic corruption in public finance management at both the national and county government levels.

Article 79 of the Constitution and the Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission Act, 2011 mandated the EACC to prevent and investigate corruption, promote integrity, recover public assets and strengthen accountability in public institutions. However, for several financial years, reports of the Auditor-General have continued to reveal recurring cases of unsupported expenditure, irregular procurement, unaccounted public funds, stalled projects, payroll anomalies and breaches of public finance laws across Ministries, Departments, Agencies, State corporations, and county governments.

The recurrence of similar audit queries year after year points to a despair problem regarding the extent to which such matters are investigated.

Sen. Keroche, take your seat. Welcome back to the House and do not make noise on your first day after a very long time.

Allow

The recurrence of similar audit queries year after year points to a deeper problem regarding the extent to which such matters are investigated, culpable persons held accountable, loss of public resources recovered and preventive measures put in place to stop further loss of public funds.

Sen. Danson Mungatana, proceed.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No. 53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Roads, Transportation and Housing on a matter of countrywide concern regarding the prolonged and unexplained stalling of construction of the Tana River County Headquarters.

The county headquarters to be located in Dayate, Tana River was conceived as a key public

infrastructure investment to strengthen governance, decentralise administrative services and improve access to government services in Tana River County. However, despite receiving budgetary allocations over several financial years, the project remains stalled at approximately 20 per cent completion.

This prolonged delay has deprived residents of the intended benefits, raised concerns over the utilisation of public funds and undermined confidence in the implementation of county development projects. Given its strategic importance to the county's administrative and socio-economic developments, there is an urgent need to establish the reasons for the project's stagnation, account for resources expended and provide clear timelines for its completion and operationalisation.

In this Statement, the committee should address the following-

Thank you, Sen. Mungatana. Sen. Edwin Sifuna, proceed. Any delegation of the statement by Sen. Sifuna? If there is none, that Statement is dropped.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No. 53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Health on a matter of national concern, regarding the expiry of drugs and medical supplies worth approximately Kshs1 billion at the Kenya Medical Supplies Authority (KEMSA) .

The expiry of essential medicines and medical supplies including drugs used in the treatment of cancer Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV) , malaria and other critical illnesses raises serious concerns regarding procurement planning, inventory management, stock monitoring, distribution systems and accountability within KEMSA and the Ministry of Health.

In the Statement the committee should address the following-

Sen. Hamida Kibwana, proceed.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. My Statement is on illegal acquisition of Kenyan identity documents by foreign nationals.

I rise pursuant to Standing Order No. 53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on National Security, Defence and Foreign Relations on a matter of national concern regarding reports of foreign nationals illegally acquiring Kenyan identity cards, passports, birth certificates and other citizenship documents.

A case involving the deportation in February 2023 of a Bosnian aid worker, Zarko Knezevic, who was declared a prohibited immigrant following a dispute regarding the irregular issuance of a Kenyan identity card, has heightened public concern about the integrity of Kenyan's immigration, civil registration and national identification systems.

In a recent ruling on the matter, the High Court determined that his deportation violated his constitution right to a fair administrative hearing as provided for in Article 47 of the Constitution with immigration authorities alleging that he fraudulently procured a Kenyan ID number and was seeking to obtain a Kenyan passport.

In the Statement, the committee should address the following-

Sen. Tabitha Keroche and the Senate Majority Leader, please.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) to seek a statement from the Standing Committee on Justice, Legal Affairs and Human Rights on a matter of national concern regarding the implementation status of legal policy reforms proposed in the November 2025 Report of the Technical Working Group on Gender-Based Violence, including femicide.

In response to the rising cases of gender-based violence and femicide in the country and following sustained public concern over the safety and protection of women and girls, His Excellency the President, via Gazette Notice No.109 of 10th January, 2025, established the Technical Working Group (TWG) on Gender-Based Violence (GBV) , including femicide.

The TWG, under the chairmanship of Hon. Lady Justice (Rtd) Dr. Nancy Baraza, was mandated to examine trends and causes of GBV and femicide, assess the adequacy of existing legal and policy frameworks, evaluate institutional capacity, resource allocation, training levels and operational effectiveness and propose actionable recommendations to strengthen prevention, response, support, investigations and accountability mechanisms. The report highlighted serious gaps in enforcement, coordination, survivor protection and accountability despite Kenya's progressive legal framework.

In the statement, the committee should address the following-

Sen. Hamida, take your seat. Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe Ltumbesi, you have the Floor.

Sen. Cherarkey, why are you tempting the Chair to throw you out? Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe you have two statements. Please, proceed.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I choose to read one statement today, because there is an error in one of the statements. I am reading this statement on the welfare and working conditions of National Police Reservists (NPR) in Samburu County.

Sen. Enoch Wambua, you may proceed.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) to seek a statement from the Standing Committee on Health on a matter of county-wide concern regarding the congestion of patients and bed-sharing in public health facilities in Kitui County.

Access to quality health care is a constitutional right. However, public health facilities in Kitui County continue to experience severe congestion, resulting in overcrowded wards and instances where patients are forced to share beds due to inadequate infrastructure, limited bed capacity and strained health services.

In the Statement, the committee should address the following-

Order, Sen. Lelegwe, Sen. Dullo and Sen. Madzayo. Please, take your seats. Hon. Senators, before I allow further statements, pursuant to Standing Order No. 56 (1) (a) , I have got communication on visiting delegation of teachers and students from Maikona Girls' Senior School in Marsabit County.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I take this opportunity to welcome all the students from the two counties, particularly the Mashuuru Boys' High School from Kajiado County.

Let me use this opportunity to say two things about the students who have come here. Mashuuru is my home. For these students to reach here, it is a nightmare because the road to Mashuuru is very bad. It is in terrible condition. However, I wanted them to go with the comfort that through the Committee on Roads, Transportation and Housing, I made sure that in the budget that will be read today, the road is included for recarpeting as the President had promised and he has met his word.

The second thing I want to mention is that these are very disciplined students and one day they will be in this House as Senators and members of the National Assembly.

They are going far. I just want to encourage them to remain disciplined and any issues that they want sorted out, they must have an engagement with the administration so that they get out of school with good grades. It is a very important thing that I thought I should mention. Thank you.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, on behalf of Sen. Chute, myself and the people of Marsabit, I wish to take this opportunity to welcome the teachers and students from Maikona Girls Senior High School.

This is a very serious step because we have never seen girls coming all the way from Maikona because that place is very far. As my sister Peris has mentioned about the challenges facing Mashuuru, Maikona to Marsabit is a very long distance on a rough road and it is like those parts of the country are forgotten. However, let me tell the girls, you need to learn a lot. If some of us are here, you should be here also because you have capacity and nothing will stop you from actually becoming leaders in future.

I would also like to encourage our girls to take their education seriously because that is something that will take you far. The current challenges that schools are facing, I think you, girls, are lucky because during our time, some of the people walked barefoot to school.

I remember one time I sat with my kids and I told them today they have more than 10 pairs of shoes but during our time, we used to walk even barefoot. I think you need to use the little opportunities you have very seriously, especially those who are coming from pastoral areas, those far distance areas, take your education very seriously and for those of us who are in leadership today, we will fight for your right and make sure you have used your opportunity and learn from here.

This is because for the period I have been here, I have never seen any school from Marsabit having visited the Senate. Congratulations and I wish even your teachers good luck. You have done a good job. Make sure that our girls shine in those hardship areas, in those far distance areas and make sure that they have succeeded in their education. I thank you.

Thank you, Sen. Dullo, for those encouraging words to the girls who are visiting the Senate today.

Now, we will proceed to have statements pursuant to Standing Order No.56 (1) (a) and I am calling upon the Chairperson of the Committee on Finance and Budget---

Sen. Shakila, why are you intervening?

Asante Bw. Spika wa Muda. Kuna Statement nilileta last week ya watu wa Siyu walipigwa na majeshi. Waliingia kwa kijiji, watu wakapigwa, wakaumizwa na nyumba zao zikabomolewa. Hiyo Statement mpaka sasa haijaletwa kwa hii Floor. Ni nini inaendelea? Sheria ni kuwa baada ya masaa 24, Statement inafaa iletwe kwa Floor. Nashangaa.

I have just been informed that your Statement is being processed. It is before the Speaker's Desk. Your intervention is noted. Just take your seat. Chairperson Committee on Finance and Budget, proceed.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. This is a statement pursuant to Standing Order No.56 (1) (a) of the Senate Standing Orders. As you may be aware, in April 2026, the Committee on Finance and Budget---

Order, Hon. Senators. Sen.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I will start the statement hoping that our colleagues are listening.

Statement under Standing Order No.56 (1) (a) of the Senate Standing Orders. As you may be aware, in April 2026, the Committee on Finance and Budget inquired into the exercise of powers of the Cabinet Secretary for Finance to stop the transfer of funds under Article 225 of the Constitution.

The basis upon which the Cabinet Secretary for National Treasury had exercised the power to stop the transfer of funds to the County Government of Meru was a long outstanding payment of an arbitral award and applicable interest. It is instructive to note that this was the second instance since the inception of the devolved system of government that the Cabinet Secretary had exercised this power.

The first instance was in 2019 when the Cabinet Secretary at the time had exercised the power under Article 225 to stop the transfer of funds to 15 county governments on the basis that these county governments had failed to demonstrate tangible efforts to clear eligible pending bills.

In both these instances, the Cabinet Secretary was of the opinion that failure to meet outstanding financial obligations was a serious and persistent material breach of the provisions of the Public Finance Management (PFM) Act, 2012. It is instructive that in both these instances, the premise of the exercise of the power under Article 225 of the Constitution was the same. The failure by county governments to meet outstanding financial commitment and persistent unaddressed issue of pending bills.

Therefore, while the Senate did not approve the stoppage of funds in these two instances, the duty of the House did not end there. The overarching role of the Senate

under Article 96 (1) and (3) of the Constitution as the protector of counties and the apex body that oversights national revenue allocated to county governments behooves the House to address its mind to finding a final solution to the issue of pending bills.

It is alarming that in the County Government's Budget Implementation and Review Report of Financial Year 2025/2026, the Controller of Budget (COB) reported that the county government's cumulative outstanding pending bills stood at Kshs163.74 billion as of 31st December, 2025.

This astronomical figure does not simply pose a risk to the effective discharge of functions by the county governments, but a stark reminder to the many Kenyans in hundreds of thousands who have supplied goods and services or done contracts with the county government but are yet to be compensated.

The problem of pending bills, therefore, goes beyond the question of good governance and prudent financial management and raises a moral question. Could the Senate in good conscience stand idly by, when the supplies of goods and services and other contracts to county governments endure inordinate delays in payment? That the duty of the Senate under Article 96 (1) and (3) of the Constitution also contemplate protecting counties from themselves? The answer is in the affirmative.

The Committee on Finance and Budget is of the opinion that the piecemeal and ad hoc approach to the issue of pending bills will further exacerbate the issue as opposed to a final permanent solution. A more appropriate approach involving dealing with systemic issues that have led to persistent pending bills in county government is required.

In this respect, the committee proposes to-

Thank you, Sen. Ali Roba. Statements pursuant to Standing Order No.57 (1) . The Senate Majority Leader.

I am very calm today. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, pursuant to Standing Order No.57 (1) , I hereby present the business for the week that commences Tuesday, 16th June, 2026. During the afternoon sitting of the Senate held yesterday, Wednesday, 10th June, 2026, the Senate considered and passed the following Bills at the Second Reading Stage-

On a point of order, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, there is somebody trying to get your attention.

What is your point of order, Sen. Boni Khalwale?

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I rise under Standing Order No.57 which gives the Majority Leader an opportunity to table the business of the following week. Instead of reading to us that Statement, is he in order to start debating the economy of Kenya and attempt to justify why Kenyans are suffering under this Government?

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I urge that the Chair brings him back to order. If you are so kind, you should ask him to apologise to Kenyans by saying that Kenyans should accept to suffer because of the war between the United States (US) and Iran.

You have made your point. Senate Majority Leader, restrict yourself to tabling of the Statement pursuant to strict provisions of Standing Order No.57 (1) and (2) .

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, Standing Order No.57 (1) gives me permission to state business that has been transacted and what will be transacted the following week. I am extremely relevant because I was talking about division of revenue and what happened. I do not know what my colleague consumed over lunchtime.

Senate Majority Leader, you are not expected to debate or run more other than just issuing the Statement.

There was no debate, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. However, I will continue to read the Statement.

(ii) The Food and Feed Safety Control Coordination Bill (National Assembly Bills No.21 of 2023) .

I, therefore, take this opportunity to commend Hon. Senators for availing themselves yesterday during the voting process. There still remains substantive business pending conclusion before the Senate this afternoon. It goes without saying that we should prioritise attendance of plenary sittings, concentrate and be relevant with our points of order.

The status of business before the Senate is as follows-

Thank you, Senate Majority Leader.

The Chair is reminded to remind Hon. Senators, particularly Sen. Mumma, Sen. (Dr.) Murango and the team that has kept on consulting about the provisions of Standing Order No.121 on disorderly conduct which states as follows-

“ (1) A Senator is disorderly if the Senator-

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I would like to comment on two Statements made by Sen. Okiya Omtatah, who likes saying that he is a Senator of Kenya from Busia, relating to shareholders of KPC.

Recently, the KPC sold shares and there was a lot of information coming from the media and elsewhere. Since we may want to arrest any speculation, negative or otherwise, relating to that particular sale, it is important that the relevant committee sheds light on the shareholding of KPC. I am saying that because there were accusations that there are people highly placed in the Government that acquired KPC shares through proxies. That is why the committee must provide information to this House and the country at large on who exactly owns how many shares in KPC and if there are any proxies in the Government. That is because privatisation of public assets should not be something that makes assets to go to individuals well placed in the Government. Therefore, I support that Statement.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, Sen. Omtatah also wanted to---

Sen. Joe Nyutu, be mindful of your colleagues who want to comment.

I thought I am still within my time? The Temporary Speaker

: We did not agree on the limitation of time. Be mindful of your colleagues.

I am just concluding. Thank you very much. The statement by Sen. Okiya Omtatah on audit queries by the Auditor-General should be tied to reports we received yesterday that the State had overspent. In the first nine months, the State overspent the budgeted expenditure contrary to Article 223 of the Constitution. The article guides expenditure for purposes of emergencies. For the government not to spend money as stipulated in Article 223, we must find a way to restrict ourselves to fiscal discipline. I support the two statements by Sen. Okiya Omtatah.

We did not agree on the limitation of time. Be mindful of your colleagues.

I am just concluding. Thank you very much. The statement by Sen. Okiya Omtatah on audit queries by the Auditor-General should be tied to reports we received yesterday that the State had overspent. In the first nine months, the State overspent the budgeted expenditure contrary to Article 223 of the Constitution. The article guides expenditure for purposes of emergencies. For the government not to spend money as stipulated in Article 223, we must find a way to restrict ourselves to fiscal discipline. I support the two statements by Sen. Okiya Omtatah.

lately, the sport has deteriorated, largely due to governance challenges at Cricket Kenya. Something must be done about the leadership of sports organisations in this country.

When we thought we had resolved the challenges in football, we were recently surprised to hear of disputes in the Football Kenya Federation (FKF) between the executive and Mr. Hussein Mohamed. We have also had challenges in rugby and other sports. This leaves us wondering why many sports organisations in this country face governance issues despite having a ministry mandated to ensure minimal governance challenges. Many of these organisations are not following the Sports Act or the law.

This statement is important and the relevant committee needs to delve deeper into the matter. It should also expand its scope to other national associations such as FKF, rugby and others facing similar problems.

I support.

lately, the sport has deteriorated, largely due to governance challenges at Cricket Kenya. Something must be done about the leadership of sports organisations in this country.

When we thought we had resolved the challenges in football, we were recently surprised to hear of disputes in the Football Kenya Federation (FKF) between the executive and Mr. Hussein Mohamed. We have also had challenges in rugby and other sports. This leaves us wondering why many sports organisations in this country face governance issues despite having a ministry mandated to ensure minimal governance challenges. Many of these organisations are not following the Sports Act or the law.

This statement is important and the relevant committee needs to delve deeper into the matter. It should also expand its scope to other national associations such as FKF, rugby and others facing similar problems.

I support.

Bw. Spika, asante kwa kunipa fursa hii. Nataka kuchangia kauli iliyoletwa na Seneta wa Kitui kuhusu hospitali. Jambo tunalopaswa kuzingatia sana ni afya. Afya imepelekwa katika gatuzi zetu, lakini ukitembelea hospitali nyingi za gatuzi, kama alivyotaja, unapata wagonjwa watatu hadi wanne wamelazwa katika kitanda kimoja, ilhali wana magonjwa tofauti. Hii inaendeleza maambukizi.

Si hivyo tu, ukitembelea makafani zetu, unapata miili imewekwa pamoja ilhali inapaswa tuwe na utu. Ni jambo la kusikitisha kwa sababu tumegawa pesa nyingi kwa kaunti zetu. Ukichukua mfano wa Hospitali ya Nyahururu, unapata hakuna dawa. Si Nyahururu peke yake, hata Rumuruti na Nanyuki hali ni ile ile. Wagonjwa wakifika hospitalini wanaandikiwa dawa lakini wanaambiwa wazinunue nje. Kwa hivyo Kamati ya Afya inapaswa kushughulikia jambo hili na kulichunguza kwa kina.

Kauli ingine iliyoletwa na Sen. Roba, Mwenyekiti, ni kuhusu madeni ya kaunti zetu. Kuna Mswada ulioletwa na Sen. Olekina kuhusu madeni. Madeni haya yamefanya mali ya watu kunadiwa. Mtu amefanya kazi, lakini kaunti haijamlipa. Mali inaponadiwa, watu wanajinyonga, ilhali wamefanyia kaunti kazi.

Isiwe jambo la kawaida watu kupewa majukumu na gavana kuwapa kandarasi, lakini mwishowe wasilipwe. Kwa hivyo, naunga mkono. Asante.

Thank you, Sen. Kinyua. Hon. Senators, the request list from my dashboard is high and we have 20 minutes left. I ask that whoever gets the opportunity to speak limits their contribution to a maximum of three minutes. If that is agreeable, that will be the timeline.

Proceed, Sen. Maanzo.

I would like to know how many more suits other than the two from Makueni that KPC is facing, so that we know how much will be paid. When did the transfer of assets take place? That is at the point the company was sold. Otherwise, there was no information to the public.

Very little is known about who now owns KPC, what percentage is Kenyan and whether more shares will be floated. The people who bought this company purchased a very important strategic asset of the Republic of Kenya, which is a security installation. At all material times, even if it has been sold to private entrepreneurs, the Republic should retain majority control.

Further, what law was used and what laws apply to the sale of this publicly owned company that is now largely privately owned? If it was making Kshs12 billion a year, has it not been sold at a loss? That money was coming to our budget, but now it will go to shareholders.

I am also keen, on behalf of the people of Thange, to know the finer details when the committee sits, so that we can explain to them what has happened and the chances of them finally being compensated by the now sold out KPC.

Thank you. I support.

I would like to know how many more suits other than the two from Makueni that KPC is facing, so that we know how much will be paid. When did the transfer of assets take place? That is at the point the company was sold. Otherwise, there was no information to the public.

Very little is known about who now owns KPC, what percentage is Kenyan and whether more shares will be floated. The people who bought this company purchased a very important strategic asset of the Republic of Kenya, which is a security installation. At all material times, even if it has been sold to private entrepreneurs, the Republic should retain majority control.

Further, what law was used and what laws apply to the sale of this publicly owned company that is now largely privately owned? If it was making Kshs12 billion a year, has it not been sold at a loss? That money was coming to our budget, but now it will go to shareholders.

I am also keen, on behalf of the people of Thange, to know the finer details when the committee sits, so that we can explain to them what has happened and the chances of them finally being compensated by the now sold out KPC.

Thank you. I support.

existing in this country that a girl child has to live in fear because someone is in the business of body parts? Shame on them!

With those remarks, I support.

existing in this country that a girl child has to live in fear because someone is in the business of body parts? Shame on them!

With those remarks, I support.

Sen. Okenyuri, please proceed.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I wish to support the statement by Sen. Joe Nyutu on the expired drugs by the Kenya Medical Supplies Authority (KEMSA) . Why do we have patients dying and expired drugs at the same time? If patients are dying, that means they are not getting the drugs. It is such a sad picture that we have expired drugs in large warehouses, yet patients continue to die in public health facilities where they are seeking treatment and they are not able to get it.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the KEMSA and the Ministry of Health have to tell the country why we are having this consistently. Where is the lapse? Why should we have more people dying because of administrative issues? Whatever is happening paints a very sad scenario, especially for the health sector. For instance, look at cancer patients. The pain that they are going through and they are not able to get treatment, yet they are reading in the news about huge packs of expired drugs that were meant to ease their pain. It is a very sad scenario. I wish that the committee that is going to look into this matter takes it seriously because it affects the general public.

I would like to also comment on the statement by Sen. Omtatah on the EACC. Let the EACC follow corruption cases to completion because most of the time, these cases come up, make sensation in the eyes of the public and then go cold. So, the stories will keep recurring and within no time, there is nothing to talk about. We keep lamenting about corruption. If the EACC is to be taken seriously, let it bite as Kenyans expect it to.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Mariam, please proceed.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, regarding the issue of bed sharing, most hospitals have such kind of scenario. However, the Ministry has come up with a policy that strictly, they will not allow any claim which is above the bed capacity. If they can perhaps follow that---

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, regarding the issue of bed sharing, most hospitals have such kind of scenario. However, the Ministry has come up with a policy that strictly, they will not allow any claim which is above the bed capacity. If they can perhaps follow that---

Sen. Mariam, your time is up. Sen. Olekina, please, proceed.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. Briefly, I would like to comment on two statements. I will begin with the statement on expired drugs and dilapidated health facilities.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the problem of KEMSA is inborn. There is absolutely no reason why we should be dealing with expired products. I have attempted to assist the Ministry of Health. Before the former Cabinet Secretary was changed, I went and sat with her. I told her that it is about time that we changed the procurement mechanism at KEMSA. Let us convert KEMSA into a supermarket of drugs. Instead of taxpayers’ money being used, let us invite the manufacturers to list their drugs there and then develop an Enterprise Resource Planning (ERP) system such that when you are in Mandera or Narok, all you need to do in the hospital is to check in the ERP. If you do not have the drug, you can request and say this drug is available in Mombasa and it is delivered to you. What is the point of behaving as if we do not understand technology?

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the day people will stop wanting to get a kickback in everything is the day this country will develop. In developed nations, that burden of expired drugs is moved back to the manufacturers. I am also a processor of milk. Whenever I place milk in a shelf and it expires, I am told to take my milk back. Go to all these supermarkets. Nakumatt Supermarket taught us a lesson. When Nakumatt came into this country, business changed. Business became that you lease a building, after which, in the supermarket, the shelves are owned by someone else, the products are owned by someone else who is responsible for their product. The day the Ministry will agree to be guided, so that we stop this nonsense of every single day having to say we have lost this and that, there are these or those scandals, is the day we will be able to move this country forward.

Finally, on a second statement that has been read by Sen. Omtatah, the issue of nominee account is a common practice used worldwide by markets, even in the Nairobi Stock Exchange (NSE) . This issue of nominees of KPC is something which is not illegal in itself. However, when it comes to a strategic asset the Kenyan Government owns a 35 per cent stake, such matters ought to be made a bit neater.

My request to the committee that will look at this statement by Sen. Omtatah is to develop a mechanism that any public asset which is sold--- although we know that at the point of paying dividends, the nominees' accounts will not be paid---

Give Olekina 30 seconds to wind up on his contribution.

owners. That is the point when the individual owners will be identified because there are tax obligations and requirements.

I request the committee that will be dealing with this matter to see how we can amend the Acts regulating the stock exchange, so that when it is a nominee on a strategic asset, let them list next to the nominee who those nominees are.

owners. That is the point when the individual owners will be identified because there are tax obligations and requirements.

I request the committee that will be dealing with this matter to see how we can amend the Acts regulating the stock exchange, so that when it is a nominee on a strategic asset, let them list next to the nominee who those nominees are.

Senator Olekina, you are very lucky. The system did not actually detect that you were beyond the additional 30 seconds that the Chair gave you. You would have been able to continue contributing because of that default.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. With technology now, we know who is going to speak next.

As Sen. Olekina said, KEMSA, that is the national supplier of medical drugs should have a serious system. I think the biggest problem that we have is that, basically, KEMSA is like a cash cow of corruption for some people. They do not want it to work because if the Ministry of Health is really serious that they want to automate KEMSA, they should have done it a long time ago. I thought recently there was a system of Kshs104 billion that is supposed to digitise all health facilities.

The issue of KEMSA is very serious. Matters of medicine are not to be taken lightly. Recently, the Senate Committee on Health moved across the country. There are some facilities in the country that do not have Tuberculosis (TB) drugs, yet KEMSA is reporting that the TB drugs are expiring. How? We cannot understand that we have medicine, it expires, there are hospitals, our children are being born daily and we cannot get the TB drugs. The Committee on Health needs to move to KEMSA and conduct a thorough inquiry and audit on that organization, because they believe in wanting to “eat” and continue with the corruption.

On the statement by Senator for Samburu, the National Police Reservists (NPR) have done a lot of work for this country, especially in the North Rift, Northern Kenya and Tana River, because the country is now fairly very stable. We have peace across because of the NPR and the Ministry of Interior and National Administration doing some serious work.

There is basically peace in the country, but we want the National Police Service (NPS) to see how we can reward our NPRs. Maybe they need to be put now on a regular pay, so that they can help their families. They should be enlisted on the Social Health Authority (SHA) , so that if anybody or their families fall sick, they can access medical services through SHA.

For those that lost their lives because of banditry resulting in loss of lives or getting injured in the course of duty, the National Police Service needs to find a way of compensating these families who have sacrificed to serve the nation, so that their children can go to school. There should even be educated---

that he so wishes, to allow you to speak, The system will only guide in terms of the pool of those who are asking to be granted the opportunity.

With that discretion, I will allow Sen. Mungatana to contribute to the statement.

Asante, Bwana Spika wa Muda. Ninasimama kuongea kuhusu NPR ambao kule kwetu tunawaita ma-homeguards. Hawa ma-homeguards ama walinzi wa vijijini, hufanya kazi muhimu sana katika kaunti yetu ya Tana River lakini wanateswa.

On behalf of the Senate and on my own behalf, I extend a warm welcome to the delegation and wish them a fruitful visit. I request Sen. Mungatana to welcome them because they are his neighbour. You share a border with them.

On behalf of the Senate and on my own behalf, I extend a warm welcome to the delegation and wish them a fruitful visit. I request Sen. Mungatana to welcome them because they are his neighbour. You share a border with them.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I welcome the students to this Senate. Many years ago, we were also students like you and we went through what you have gone through. Your parents, just like us, are putting a lot of effort, so that you can succeed in life.

For us, we want to wish you well. When you obey your teachers, they will listen to you and the problems we have been having lately will come to an end. Focus on your studies, so that you can one day be seated here as Senators and serve this Republic of Kenya.

We wish you well and thank you very much for making a visit here. You are welcome.

Thank you, Sen. Mungatana. Proceed, Sen. Cherarkey.

With those many remarks, I hope the health function in our country will improve for the betterment of our people.

I yield back.

With those many remarks, I hope the health function in our country will improve for the betterment of our people.

I yield back.

What is your point of clarification?

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, it should be a point of clarification. I am concerned that in my system, it is set to show that it is Sen. Chimera seated on my machine. Is that in order that right now, when I am seated here waiting to submit on the Floor of this House, the system does not show me as present, but shows that it is Sen. Chimera on my desk? Could the people who are handling this computer system do a much better job? Could you instruct them to do a better job? I take offence.

Did you log-in, Sen. Veronica?

I tried logging-in, it did not work. They brought me the card.

So, you have not logged in?

I tried logging in even with the card. It still shows that it is Sen. Chimera seated on my desk. What is this game now? Come and make this system.

Searjeant-at-Arms, please, look into that issue.

I am offended by that.

Proceed, Sen. Oketch-Gicheru.

County Government. Go and audit the inventory for drugs and the governors, so that they can tell us who owns the chemists in Migori County and Nandi, where Sen. Cherarkey comes from, and Bungoma County

County Government. Go and audit the inventory for drugs and the governors, so that they can tell us who owns the chemists in Migori County and Nandi, where Sen. Cherarkey comes from, and Bungoma County

Summarise in one minute.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, there are logistical inefficiencies of drugs in our counties. We want to know who owns all the chemists in our counties. This is because governors are making so much money and they are making KEMSA inefficient. They must stop taking drugs from our hospitals and giving their friends opportunities to run chemists.

Thank you, Senator. Proceed, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the Statement by the Senator for Busia County on EACC is about the fight against corruption that I am afraid we are starting to lose. When I reflect on this, I ask myself, what is it that we can do to strengthen the institution of the EACC. Failure to which, we disband it completely, so that we look for a different way of combating corruption.

How can it be, Mheshimiwa Mungatana, that parliamentarians are informed by the Auditor-General, they call auditees, get evidence, confirm the concerns of the Auditor-General and when you forward this information to the EACC, nothing happens? It is because they are corrupt. The EACC people are selling parliamentary reports to the very people they are supposed to prosecute. Parliament must help Kenyans by addressing EACC. What is more, we must also question the office of the President. Why is it that we have members in the current Cabinet with active cases forwarded by the EACC for prosecution?

We are all aware of the outcry about the Social Health Authority (SHA) . It is because of corruption that for the last four days, there is a country-wide collapse and or downtime of the network of the so-called pre-authorisation that is supposed to be done before a patient accesses SHA services. It is a deliberate effort by corrupt people in the hospitals to ensure that the services of SHA are not accessed, so that members of the public who have been contributing to SHA can be asked to pay in cash.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, you are aware that as of yesterday, 204 schools have closed down due to unrest, owing to corruption. Why is capitation money either delayed or not sent to schools, forcing headmasters not to give---

Thank you, Senator.

Give him one minute.

for years until they are eventually released with members of the public’s knowledge. We must fight corruption.

I thank you.

for years until they are eventually released with members of the public’s knowledge. We must fight corruption.

I thank you.

Thank you. Sen. Dullo, proceed.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I wish to support two statements; one by Sen. Roba on pending bills. I wish to congratulate this House for rejecting the passing of pending bills for Meru County. It is because of personal interests that the House was forced to actually ensure the pending bills are paid.

We are not doing very well as far as pending bills are concerned. Many of our businessmen are languishing in poverty. Counties are paying fake pending bills. I know that this budget, that we struggled to pass yesterday, will go into campaigns and yet, the institutions mandated to oversight the accountability of those budgets are in slumber land or in bed with those corrupt county governments.

Instead of us always lamenting, I wish this House, especially the Committee on Finance and Budget takes serious measures as far as pending bills are concerned because they keep on accumulating. You can imagine a county having pending bills of over Kshs100 million for legal services. What are they doing? They are pending bills that are not even going down from Kshs1.5 billion or Kshs1.2 billion such as those in my own county. The only people who are paid their pending bills are those who are politically- correct. I think as a country, we need to stop lamenting and take serious action.

Finally, on the NPRs, we need to actually see how we can formally engage them because they complement the work of Administrative Police (AP) officers. Whenever we have challenges, those people are the ones in the forefront.

Secondly, there is so much corruption going on in the manner in which NPRs are recruited in those counties. Those who are politically-correct are the ones who are recruited while the rest are left out. Some of the NPRs are given firearms, but they sit in town to chew miraa instead of being in the bush to defend communities. Certain things need to be done. Yes, there is a lot that the government is doing as far as NPRs in those affected areas is concerned, but it should be done in a transparent manner.

I thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir.

Thank you. Sen. Murango, proceed.

wamekula, wale ambao wanashikilia wagonjwa ambao hawawezi kutembea na kuwapeleka kuota jua, wasipolipwa kwa takriban ya miezi tatu, inakuwa ni changamoto kubwa sana.

Kama Maseneta, wakati tunapoongea kuhusu matatizo yanayowakumba wafanyikazi wa hospitali zetu kama wale wa Kaunti ya Kirinyaga, wale ambao wameajiriwa wanauziwa uoga ya kwamba watafutwa kazi wakiongea. Hilo linafanya waendelee kuteseka. Tunasahau ya kwamba wale ni watoto wa watu, wana nyumba wamekodisha, wanastahili kulipa kodi, wanafaa kununua chakula na wako na watoto wanaoenda shule ambao wanafaa kukimu haja zao. Utapata gavana anaita mkutano wa watu wawili au watatu na anawapiga pambaja kisha wanakubaliana kwamba kila kitu kiko sawa ilhali wananchi na wale wahudumu ambao hawalipwi mishahara yao wanaendelea kuteseka.

Bw. Spika wa Muda, nasimama leo kwa sababu tutahitajika kupitsha pesa ambazo zitaenda kwa magavana. Wacha wachukue majukumu na waache kuzibia panya shimo kwa mikate wakitarajia watakufa. Wachukue majukumu yao. Hata wakiendela kutukashifu tunapoongea, haitaokoa maisha ya wale watu kwa sababu Waswahili husema, ukikashifu mwenye akili, huwezi ondoa ujinga wao. Tunataka ujinga huo uondolewe katika kaunti zetu ili watu wetu waweze kupata matibabu.

wamekula, wale ambao wanashikilia wagonjwa ambao hawawezi kutembea na kuwapeleka kuota jua, wasipolipwa kwa takriban ya miezi tatu, inakuwa ni changamoto kubwa sana.

Kama Maseneta, wakati tunapoongea kuhusu matatizo yanayowakumba wafanyikazi wa hospitali zetu kama wale wa Kaunti ya Kirinyaga, wale ambao wameajiriwa wanauziwa uoga ya kwamba watafutwa kazi wakiongea. Hilo linafanya waendelee kuteseka. Tunasahau ya kwamba wale ni watoto wa watu, wana nyumba wamekodisha, wanastahili kulipa kodi, wanafaa kununua chakula na wako na watoto wanaoenda shule ambao wanafaa kukimu haja zao. Utapata gavana anaita mkutano wa watu wawili au watatu na anawapiga pambaja kisha wanakubaliana kwamba kila kitu kiko sawa ilhali wananchi na wale wahudumu ambao hawalipwi mishahara yao wanaendelea kuteseka.

Bw. Spika wa Muda, nasimama leo kwa sababu tutahitajika kupitsha pesa ambazo zitaenda kwa magavana. Wacha wachukue majukumu na waache kuzibia panya shimo kwa mikate wakitarajia watakufa. Wachukue majukumu yao. Hata wakiendela kutukashifu tunapoongea, haitaokoa maisha ya wale watu kwa sababu Waswahili husema, ukikashifu mwenye akili, huwezi ondoa ujinga wao. Tunataka ujinga huo uondolewe katika kaunti zetu ili watu wetu waweze kupata matibabu.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for this opportunity to ventilate on statements raised by Hon. Members.

I will begin with the statement from Sen. Omtatah with regards to cricket. When we were growing up, Kenya was leading in Africa and globally. It is quite disheartening that we have degenerated to a point where we are discussing sports in Parliament, yet, we have a Ministry of Youth Affairs, Creative Economy and Sports in this country.

In the same wavelength, knowing very well---

executives in charge of health will send administrators and accountants who are either tribally, politically or commercially aligned, to smoothen the operations of fleecing and looting monies from these facilities.

As we speak today, if the EACC were to up its game--- As resources of the Social Health Authority (SHA) land in these health facilities, they already have instructions on what percentage of the monies should be channeled to specific people, to benefit them at the expense of the patients and---

Thank you, Senator.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, one minute, please.

Give him one minute, but, please, conclude.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for being gracious against these marauding Senators behind me.

I want to communicate with the great people of Bungoma County. What I have clearly said here is happening on the ground. I will work and walk with you and ensure the cartels that are fleecing the resources in the health sector are brought to book. I will not let you down. I will run with you and speak for you.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir.

Senator Cheburet, you have the Floor.

Thank you, Senator. Sen. Wakili Sigei, you may proceed.

Thank you, Senator. Sen. Wakili Sigei, you may proceed.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I would like to comment on two statements. One is by Sen. Okiya Omtatah regarding the effectiveness of the EACC in combating corruption.

Every day, every morning in this House, we talk matters devolution, service delivery to the people, statement requiring the EACC to give us a status report, and also effectiveness in terms of investigations and action against audit concerns and queries, both from the Office of the Auditor-General as well as those from the committees of this House. This has been put to question.

I expect that the committee, which this particular statement has been committed, will establish the extent of all reported matters of counties across the divide, where both the Auditor-General and the various committees of this House have raised concerns. They should give us a status report of what they have done. I say so because we, as the Justice, Legal Affairs and Human Rights Committee are aware that not once, not twice, have we summoned the CEO of the EACC to appear before the committee to give us a status report on inquiries that have been made by almost all the county representatives in this House, on investigations, on the status of matters which have either been litigated upon or have been filed and also in action that either they have taken or are planning to take with regard to corruption.

I am aware that the Auditor-General in the Financial Years 2022/2023, 2023/2024 and 2024/2025 raised several matters regarding Bomet County where the EACC was undertaking various investigations. We are yet to receive the status of those investigations. We call for their effectiveness. I call upon the CEO of the EACC, Mr. Abdi Mohamud, to make sure that he turns up whenever this House or the various committees call upon him to give us a status report of those investigations.

Secondly, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the expiry of drugs in our various dispensaries, hospitals, or even at KEMSA is quite unfortunate. This is one of those things that in the course of our oversight roles, where the Standing Committee on Health has done visits to a number of our dispensaries or institutions within the counties---

Thank you, Senator. Sen. Veronica Maina, you may proceed.

body. It is very sad that in this day and time, when we have technology that could assist in curbing crime, we have had more women suffering GBV case. We have also had cases of femicide, which remain unresolved.

We must take an approach now as the committee looks into these issues. The whole community and society must take an approach that helps women to be emancipated from this kind of violence that we are seeing becoming rampant. It is important that we criminalise any form of violence against any gender and specifically against women. We have seen most of the people who are victims of GBV, some of the aggressors are coming from a relationship that they have with the victim. So, you will find within our homes, there is very high level of GBV. Women are not only being beaten, they are bearing the brunt of broken relationships because most of these people who are aggressing against women and girls are either partners, friends, spouses or people within a setup where they have a relationship with the woman who is aggrieved.

It is very sad and we are looking up to the Cabinet Secretary for Interior and National Administration to come up with very serious measures---.

body. It is very sad that in this day and time, when we have technology that could assist in curbing crime, we have had more women suffering GBV case. We have also had cases of femicide, which remain unresolved.

We must take an approach now as the committee looks into these issues. The whole community and society must take an approach that helps women to be emancipated from this kind of violence that we are seeing becoming rampant. It is important that we criminalise any form of violence against any gender and specifically against women. We have seen most of the people who are victims of GBV, some of the aggressors are coming from a relationship that they have with the victim. So, you will find within our homes, there is very high level of GBV. Women are not only being beaten, they are bearing the brunt of broken relationships because most of these people who are aggressing against women and girls are either partners, friends, spouses or people within a setup where they have a relationship with the woman who is aggrieved.

It is very sad and we are looking up to the Cabinet Secretary for Interior and National Administration to come up with very serious measures---.

Sen. Chute, please proceed. We are out of time for the Statements. Give her half a minute to conclude.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. We are calling upon the Cabinet Secretary for Interior and National Administration to ensure that these cases are resolved. I have looked at one of those cases where a woman was murdered in Kilimani and the case was in Nakuru. These cases remain unresolved. We look up to the Cabinet Secretary for Interior and National Administration to ensure that we have speedy conclusion of all these investigations and the culprits brought to book. Thank you. The Temporary Speaker (

on the floor, and we are saying we want to go to Singapore. How do we go to Singapore if we cannot even take care of our patients and community health providers? We have heard complaints everywhere in most of the hospitals. The issue raised by Sen. Wambua touches on infection prevention. That is very important. If you prevent, the cost of treatment will be cheaper, but if you do not prevent, you end up paying a lot of costs.

Finally, on the issue of cancer screening, early detection is the most important thing. Do we have those things in the hospitals? No. So what we need---

Sen. Chute.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I will be very brief. Allow me to contribute to the statement by Sen. Enoch Wambua. This statement is heavy and weighty. About two or three weeks ago, the Community Health Promoters (CHPs) from Marsabit County sent me a letter. The letter says they have not been paid for the last seven months.

As you are aware, the government is paying Kshs2,500 per person and the county government is supposed to also, similarly, pay another Kshs2,500. The national Government has paid the dues, but up to today, for the last seven months, the CHPs have not been paid in Marsabit. This House and Kenyans know what these people are going through. The kind of work they are doing at the hospitals and the problems they go through. Imagine somebody earning Kshs2,500. That is your transport, house allowance, food, water and all those things. I think the Committee on Health should visit as many hospitals as possible so that they look at how these people are surviving with a mere Kshs2,500 per month, and they are not even getting that money.

The issue raised by Sen. Wambua on the issue of patient-to-bed ratio is also something very important, and it needs discussion. This House needs to discuss how we have two or three patients on a single bed. If you visit some hospitals, people are sleeping

Sen. Veronica Maina, please proceed.

Hon. Speaker, this is a petition on the illegal freezing of salaries and the exclusion of 313 seconded Early Childhood Development Education (ECDE) programme officers from statutory pension rights under Cap 189.

I take this opportunity to present this petition on behalf of Peter Makara Ngure, Alice Muthoni Ng’ang’a, Winfred Wambui K. Karanja, Edith Wairimu Gatimu Kariamburi, Agnes Njoki Kuria, and other petitioners regarding the illegal freezing of salaries and exclusion of 313 seconded ECDE programme officers from statutory pension rights under Cap 189.

We, the undersigned citizens of Kenya and seconded ECDE programme officers active and retired from the Teacher Service Commission to various county governments, draw the attention of the Senate to the following-

THAT, following the devolution of pre-primary education, 313 ECDE programme officers were released by the Teachers Service Commission to county governments with effect from 1st July, 2015 as permanent and pensionable officers.

THAT, upon the transfer of these officers, the National Treasury and the Integrated Personnel and Payroll Database (IPPD) department recategorized their payroll status from pay group AA being the national non-contributory pension category to pay group AB being a local contributory category.

THAT, this recategorization was irregular and has had the effect of subjecting the officers to unlawful contributory pension deductions, including deductions to provident fund arrangements such as Laptrust in some counties, despite the officers being entitled to non-contributory pension terms under the Pension Act, Cap 189.

THAT, the placement of the officers under pay group AB created a technical barrier that disconnected them from salary reviews applicable to their cadre under the

Hon. Senators, pursuant to Standing Order No.238 (1) , I commit the Petition to the Standing Committee on Education for consideration. Pursuant to Standing Order No. 238 (2) (a) , the Committee is required, in not more than 60 calendar days from the time of reading the prayer, to table its reports in the Senate for consideration. The Senate shall thereafter consider the report of the committee.

I thank you.

We shall rearrange the Order Paper. We defer Orders No. 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 and 22.

Teachers Service Commission, the Public Service Commission and the county public service salaries adjustment and collective bargaining agreement benefits.

THAT, as a result, the affected officers’ salaries have effectively remained frozen at 2015 levels, causing them to miss salary increments under the 2017 to 2021 collective bargaining agreements, subsequent salary reviews in 2023 and the 2025 to 2029 increments.

THAT, the salary stagnation has in turn depressed the officers' pensionable earnings, thereby exposing both serving and retired officers to reduced pension benefits that do not reflect their lawful entitlement or their years of service.

THAT, recognising this grave error and the irreparable prejudice likely to be suffered by the officers, the National Treasury issued a directive dated 22nd March, 2022, reference TNT/PENS/15/4/20, expressly requiring that the officers be restored to their rightful status under the Pension Act CAP 189.

THAT, despite the same directive, the Teachers Service Commission (TSC) and IPPD department have failed to effect the required re-categorisation, thereby leaving the officers in prolonged administrative limbo for over a decade.

THAT, the affected officers now face double exclusion in that they are denied TSC-related salary progression because of the AB coding, while at the same time they are not fully integrated into county or public service payroll structures because they remain substantively officers of the TSC.

THAT, retired officers in this category are already suffering prejudice because their pension awards are being computed on outdated and frozen salary scales instead of reconciled salary levels, resulting in unfairly low pension payments.

THAT, the officers who have retired and those due for retirement stand to suffer irreparable financial loss unless urgent corrective measures are taken, including restoration of the proper payroll category and reconciliation of their service records, including GP-69 cards, where applicable.

WHEREFORE, your petitioners pray that the Senate investigates the matter with a view to-

Hon. Senators, pursuant to Standing Order No.238 (1) , I commit the Petition to the Standing Committee on Education for consideration. Pursuant to Standing Order No. 238 (2) (a) , the Committee is required, in not more than 60 calendar days from the time of reading the prayer, to table its reports in the Senate for consideration. The Senate shall thereafter consider the report of the committee.

I thank you.

We shall rearrange the Order Paper. We defer Orders No. 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 and 22.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that the Community Health Promoters Bill (National Assembly Bills No.53 of 2022) be now read a Second Time.

The Community Health Promotes Bill (National Assembly Bills No.53 of 2025) proposes to amend the title of the Community Health Promoters Bill. It was published in the Kenya Gazette Supplement No.183 of 2024, dated 10th November, 2022. This Bill passed the National Assembly on the 2nd December, 2024 and was referred to the Senate for consideration.

The principal object of the Bill is to regulate the practice of the Community Health Promoters (CHPs) , which many of us have come to love, and to establish the Community Health Promoters Council. Community Health Promoters serve as a bridge between communities and healthcare systems. They are trusted members of their communities, possessing a deep understanding of local cultures and dealing with language barriers to health access. This enables them to provide culturally appropriate health education, promote preventive care practices and facilitate access to essential medical services.

Their unique position allows them to build strong relationships with individuals and families, nurturing trust and encouraging active participation in managing own health. The CHPs impact and are of great importance to our society. Their contribution to the health ecosystem in this republic cannot be gainsaid. They increase access to healthcare, promote healthy behaviours and cultural practices, discourage communities from engaging in retrogressive cultural practices that injure the health of members of the society, as they are members of that community and they engage and participate in it.

Senate Majority Leader, proceed.

have celebrated these people. Therefore, this is for CHPs across the Republic of Kenya and there are so many. There are over 100,000, if I can recall.

Why I am particularly proud about this Bill is that CHPs were launched in Kericho in 2023 during Mashujaa Day. Kericho will always remain their home because that is where they began their work. I remember them matching during Mashujaa Day that particular morning at Kiprugut Chumo Stadium.

I know that as we work, by the time of drawing of the curtains of the session of this Parliament, we will have succeeded in concluding this Bill and ensured that CHPs are properly compensated, captured in the public health systems and given more training. While they might not be doctors, they have some basic training on matters public health and it will be extremely important to engage and interact with them.

Even though the First Schedule of the Health Act, Cap 241, designated community health service as Level 1 service is delivered by community health extension workers, majority of CHPs are volunteers who sometimes receive allowances that are often delayed or never paid at all. It is embarrassing that there are certain counties that delay even the little Kshs5,000 we are talking about as compensation to these volunteers. We are proposing a legal framework to enhance their recognition and regulation so as to allow them to be entrenched in the Government health delivery system. It seeks to establish the Community Health Promoters Council and Community Health Promoters Disciplinary Committee to regulate the conduct of CHPs.

I have a challenge with that proposal because as much as health is a special and unique service, we will have to find a way. Sen. Maanzo, when county employees misbehave, generally all of them, it is the County Public Service Board (CPSB) that punishes them the same way it handles their promotion and discipline them in case of misbehaviour.

Remember one thing we have not successfully done as legislators is to establish a nexus between CPSBs and professional bodies that many of these staffers belong to. If it is accountants, how do you link a CPSB with the Institute of Certified Public Accountants of Kenya (ICPAK) and even recommend sanctions against, say, an accounting officer who participates in fraud?

Last week I was the Chief Guest at the Kenya Institute of Supplies Management (KISM) in Naivasha and we interacted with supply chain managers from our 47 counties. There were people from Makueni, Siaya and basically across the country.

Something we need to agree on is that we, as Parliament, and particularly as Senators, must create the nexus between regulatory bodies that regulate professional practice. We have ICPAK for accountants and KISM for those in supply chain. We also have the Kenya Medical Practitioners Pharmacists Dentists Union (KMPDU) and the Nursing Council of Kenya (NCK) for those in the health space.

We will have to locate for these particular CHPs because there are elements that have to be handled. They include issues of transfer, promotion and scale at which they enter the workforce. Those need to be handled by CPSBs. However, we will have to set the agreement with the regulating bodies in the health practitioners space to see where CHPs will fall under. The committee will find time to look into that and guide us on how to conclude.

Part 1 comprises Clauses 1 and 2. Part 2 comprises Clauses 3 to 16 and so on and so forth. Therefore, this is a straightforward Bill which I believe Senators should give the priority it deserves.

Sen. Mungatana, you know well that there are thousands of CHPs deep down in Tana River. If there is a favour that you can do to them and those they attend to or those who draw services from them, you should ensure that you motivate them. Set up the regulatory framework like we are proposing in this particular Bill, so that when they go to vote during the next elections in Tana River, they will have a reason to say they sent a man to the Senate who represented their interests and made sure they are properly considered. The same should pass for all of us.

I am sure colleagues have various thoughts on how they think certain matters need to be handled. I know, for example, one of the challenges we will experience is how to transfer them from being on voluntary basis into the cycle of public service given that they were not necessarily competitively recruited. We normally have a big challenge with that.

When I served in the Parliamentary Service Commission, there were staffers we had requested from other Government entities like the National Youth Service (NYS) and the rest to do various duties within Parliament. They had served for long until one time we said we need to have them as part and parcel of the parliamentary staffers. However, it became a huge challenge because the constitutional dictates that all public service appointments be competitively recruited, yet we knew that these people provide us with specialised services. Therefore, there are certain things we will have to find a neater way of clearing and sorting out.

It is my utmost hope that Members will share their thoughts on how we can shape the space of Community Health Promoters (CHPs), to ensure that they serve effectively in the villages. Some of them provide services that even doctors would struggle with. They perform certain tasks that even modern hospitals would struggle with.

Do not underestimate the value of traditional medicine and people who have local knowledge on localised health challenges. Many of us here have the distinct privilege of coming from serene villages. I say this because I recently saw a clip of someone, I think it was the Senator for Nairobi, making it appear as if there is something to celebrate about coming from the city.

It is by nature that you choose what you represent. However, if I had a choice, I would pick the village any day over the city, with all its clogged-up city with all their challenges. I know many of you would do the same. There are unique challenges that come with working in villages that CHPs can handle better than even other health practitioners.

Therefore, I want to listen to colleagues share their thoughts and ideas on this topic, so that we progress and move with it to help achieve universal health care.

With those remarks, I beg to move and request the Senator for Nandi, Sen. Samson Cherargei, to second.

have celebrated these people. Therefore, this is for CHPs across the Republic of Kenya and there are so many. There are over 100,000, if I can recall.

Why I am particularly proud about this Bill is that CHPs were launched in Kericho in 2023 during Mashujaa Day. Kericho will always remain their home because that is where they began their work. I remember them matching during Mashujaa Day that particular morning at Kiprugut Chumo Stadium.

I know that as we work, by the time of drawing of the curtains of the session of this Parliament, we will have succeeded in concluding this Bill and ensured that CHPs are properly compensated, captured in the public health systems and given more training. While they might not be doctors, they have some basic training on matters public health and it will be extremely important to engage and interact with them.

Even though the First Schedule of the Health Act, Cap 241, designated community health service as Level 1 service is delivered by community health extension workers, majority of CHPs are volunteers who sometimes receive allowances that are often delayed or never paid at all. It is embarrassing that there are certain counties that delay even the little Kshs5,000 we are talking about as compensation to these volunteers. We are proposing a legal framework to enhance their recognition and regulation so as to allow them to be entrenched in the Government health delivery system. It seeks to establish the Community Health Promoters Council and Community Health Promoters Disciplinary Committee to regulate the conduct of CHPs.

I have a challenge with that proposal because as much as health is a special and unique service, we will have to find a way. Sen. Maanzo, when county employees misbehave, generally all of them, it is the County Public Service Board (CPSB) that punishes them the same way it handles their promotion and discipline them in case of misbehaviour.

Remember one thing we have not successfully done as legislators is to establish a nexus between CPSBs and professional bodies that many of these staffers belong to. If it is accountants, how do you link a CPSB with the Institute of Certified Public Accountants of Kenya (ICPAK) and even recommend sanctions against, say, an accounting officer who participates in fraud?

Last week I was the Chief Guest at the Kenya Institute of Supplies Management (KISM) in Naivasha and we interacted with supply chain managers from our 47 counties. There were people from Makueni, Siaya and basically across the country.

Something we need to agree on is that we, as Parliament, and particularly as Senators, must create the nexus between regulatory bodies that regulate professional practice. We have ICPAK for accountants and KISM for those in supply chain. We also have the Kenya Medical Practitioners Pharmacists Dentists Union (KMPDU) and the Nursing Council of Kenya (NCK) for those in the health space.

We will have to locate for these particular CHPs because there are elements that have to be handled. They include issues of transfer, promotion and scale at which they enter the workforce. Those need to be handled by CPSBs. However, we will have to set the agreement with the regulating bodies in the health practitioners space to see where CHPs will fall under. The committee will find time to look into that and guide us on how to conclude.

Part 1 comprises Clauses 1 and 2. Part 2 comprises Clauses 3 to 16 and so on and so forth. Therefore, this is a straightforward Bill which I believe Senators should give the priority it deserves.

Sen. Mungatana, you know well that there are thousands of CHPs deep down in Tana River. If there is a favour that you can do to them and those they attend to or those who draw services from them, you should ensure that you motivate them. Set up the regulatory framework like we are proposing in this particular Bill, so that when they go to vote during the next elections in Tana River, they will have a reason to say they sent a man to the Senate who represented their interests and made sure they are properly considered. The same should pass for all of us.

I am sure colleagues have various thoughts on how they think certain matters need to be handled. I know, for example, one of the challenges we will experience is how to transfer them from being on voluntary basis into the cycle of public service given that they were not necessarily competitively recruited. We normally have a big challenge with that.

When I served in the Parliamentary Service Commission, there were staffers we had requested from other Government entities like the National Youth Service (NYS) and the rest to do various duties within Parliament. They had served for long until one time we said we need to have them as part and parcel of the parliamentary staffers. However, it became a huge challenge because the constitutional dictates that all public service appointments be competitively recruited, yet we knew that these people provide us with specialised services. Therefore, there are certain things we will have to find a neater way of clearing and sorting out.

It is my utmost hope that Members will share their thoughts on how we can shape the space of Community Health Promoters (CHPs), to ensure that they serve effectively in the villages. Some of them provide services that even doctors would struggle with. They perform certain tasks that even modern hospitals would struggle with.

Do not underestimate the value of traditional medicine and people who have local knowledge on localised health challenges. Many of us here have the distinct privilege of coming from serene villages. I say this because I recently saw a clip of someone, I think it was the Senator for Nairobi, making it appear as if there is something to celebrate about coming from the city.

It is by nature that you choose what you represent. However, if I had a choice, I would pick the village any day over the city, with all its clogged-up city with all their challenges. I know many of you would do the same. There are unique challenges that come with working in villages that CHPs can handle better than even other health practitioners.

Therefore, I want to listen to colleagues share their thoughts and ideas on this topic, so that we progress and move with it to help achieve universal health care.

With those remarks, I beg to move and request the Senator for Nandi, Sen. Samson Cherargei, to second.

I highly doubt the Kshs5000. I know that the Don, Abdi of Garissa, cannot eat Kshs5,000 for lunch. The Kshs5,000 is what you spend when you go to Serena or Kempinski Villa Rosa. I know my brother, Sen. Ledama, was in France. I do not know whether Kshs5,000 would be enough for the King of Maa to even have salad in a high- end restaurant in France or on the streets of Paris after visiting the Eiffel Tower.

I agree with the Majority Leader. When we pass this, we must ensure they are well remunerated. I know Sen. Chute, who is my very good friend, has similar concerns. I appreciate and I will only make three points.

My second point is that I am happy these CHPs have been provided for under the Second Schedule. Their work is community health, psychology and counseling. I request the Majority Leader, who is the ears and eyes of the President, to also ensure CHPs visit our schools to provide psychology and counseling to children, who continue to burn schools and cause unrest and strikes. It is important, especially for women who have just delivered and sometimes suffer postpartum depression, that CHPs help on psychology, counseling and community health.

Many of our people suffer from preventable diseases. By ensuring water is well treated and cleanliness is maintained, many diseases can be avoided. Did you notice that when we fully implemented cleanliness, wearing masks and sanitization, a number of diseases in Kenya just disappeared? Even cough and sicknesses from poor handling of food came to an end.

The CHPs will also handle social work. I am happy that social work will be ensured. On community HIV counseling and testing, with the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) and the issue of supply of anti-HIV drugs, which has been a problem, will be handled. It is unfortunate that Kshs1 billion worth of drugs expired at KEMSA while we were complaining about inefficient supply of HIV/AIDS drugs in the country.

On immunization for our children, you have to appreciate that some of us were born at home. We thank God we survived because we had midwives in the village who dealt with our matters properly.

Some of us were kichwa ngumu even during our birth. So, you can imagine the midwife had a lot of work to do. For us, village Senators, most of our mothers still give birth in the village set up, where there are midwives. I know in Marsabit County, it is similar. Most of our children are not immunised in the village. So, this will assist. You can imagine somewhere in Emurua Dikirr, a mother has to travel to Emurua Dikirr Town or all the way to Narok Town to get immunisation. You can imagine the transport while carrying the young baby. However, if you send the CHPs to do immunisation, that would make it easier.

I do not know whether it is different in Makueni County. Even in Siaya County, the distinguished king of the Orange Democratic Movement (ODM) and ODM Party Leader agrees with me that we must send Community Health Promoters to handle immunisation. They could even weigh and advise our new mothers on nutrition. I know Sen. Mumma will be in a better position to explain such, because having undergone motherhood, she understands better.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, community development and health education are very critical, as well any other relevant training as prescribed by the Cabinet Secretary. So, colleagues, this is what the Community Health Promoters will be all about. There is an aspect to establish a council that will assess the qualifications of the Community Health Promoters, maintain improvement, and ensure there is professional code.

We are aware most of these CHPs will work around our houses. We also have a professional code. We must have discipline, because we do not want people who might not have good habits to go to people's homes and maybe steal or misbehave. So, I am happy that this council, through the Mover of the Motion, the Senate Majority Leader has indicated, will ensure that there is a code of profession, because every profession must have a code. There should also be qualifications, disciplinary measures, professional code, registers and kept record of all the CHPs.

I am happy that there is collaboration between the Kenya Medical Practitioners and Dentists Council (KMPDC) and the Central Board of Health in Kenya. The Kenya Union of Clinical Officers (KUCO) will also be part of it, as well as the Nursing Council of Kenya, to ensure standardisation and professionalism. I do not know whether the Senate Majority Leader will allow us in the Third Reading, in Clause 5, to include also the assessment and setting of salaries and remuneration for Community Health Promoters.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, with regard to the establishment of the council, I know Members know that one must be a person of integrity, among other qualities. So, I do not want to bedevil, because it is mutatis mutandis in a number of laws that we have. Even the powers of the council are the same, the tenure of office, the issue of allowances is set by the Salaries and Remuneration Commission (SRC), which is a norm as advised. The issue of registrar will ensure that all records and particulars on the Community Health Promoters are well kept.

With regard to disciplinary and courses that will be prescribed, that will be done as indicated in the second schedule. Allow me to say that, even in this budget, I have seen almost 290 constituencies in our counties, which are going to have Kenya Medical Training College (KMTCs). I am happy that even in Nandi County, I think we have two or three KMTCs. This will ensure that our sons and daughters are trained in the KMTCs for these courses in their villages.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I am happy with the budget that was read by Hon. Mbadi because it is a pro-mwananchi budget. I know it is the highest; Kshs4.8 trillion. We hope to see KMTCs being constructed, so that courses can be affordable. I appeal to the Higher Education Loans Board (HELB), now that have got Kshs3.7 billion, to ensure our children in KMTCs also get loans, like Maanzo and I. We were able to get higher education loans when we went to the university. Why is it that KMTC students do not get loans? They should get loans.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, are you aware that our students in the Teachers Training Colleges (TTCs) are not getting loans like their university counterparts? In my opinion, that is violation of Article 27 of the Constitution on discrimination.

With those many remarks---

Hon. Senators, I shall allow Members to debate, and just to get concurrence from the House, we should put a limit to the time. Is it five minutes for each?

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, community development and health education are very critical, as well any other relevant training as prescribed by the Cabinet Secretary. So, colleagues, this is what the Community Health Promoters will be all about. There is an aspect to establish a council that will assess the qualifications of the Community Health Promoters, maintain improvement, and ensure there is professional code.

We are aware most of these CHPs will work around our houses. We also have a professional code. We must have discipline, because we do not want people who might not have good habits to go to people's homes and maybe steal or misbehave. So, I am happy that this council, through the Mover of the Motion, the Senate Majority Leader has indicated, will ensure that there is a code of profession, because every profession must have a code. There should also be qualifications, disciplinary measures, professional code, registers and kept record of all the CHPs.

I am happy that there is collaboration between the Kenya Medical Practitioners and Dentists Council (KMPDC) and the Central Board of Health in Kenya. The Kenya Union of Clinical Officers (KUCO) will also be part of it, as well as the Nursing Council of Kenya, to ensure standardisation and professionalism. I do not know whether the Senate Majority Leader will allow us in the Third Reading, in Clause 5, to include also the assessment and setting of salaries and remuneration for Community Health Promoters.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, with regard to the establishment of the council, I know Members know that one must be a person of integrity, among other qualities. So, I do not want to bedevil, because it is mutatis mutandis in a number of laws that we have. Even the powers of the council are the same, the tenure of office, the issue of allowances is set by the Salaries and Remuneration Commission (SRC), which is a norm as advised. The issue of registrar will ensure that all records and particulars on the Community Health Promoters are well kept.

With regard to disciplinary and courses that will be prescribed, that will be done as indicated in the second schedule. Allow me to say that, even in this budget, I have seen almost 290 constituencies in our counties, which are going to have Kenya Medical Training College (KMTCs). I am happy that even in Nandi County, I think we have two or three KMTCs. This will ensure that our sons and daughters are trained in the KMTCs for these courses in their villages.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I am happy with the budget that was read by Hon. Mbadi because it is a pro-mwananchi budget. I know it is the highest; Kshs4.8 trillion. We hope to see KMTCs being constructed, so that courses can be affordable. I appeal to the Higher Education Loans Board (HELB), now that have got Kshs3.7 billion, to ensure our children in KMTCs also get loans, like Maanzo and I. We were able to get higher education loans when we went to the university. Why is it that KMTC students do not get loans? They should get loans.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, are you aware that our students in the Teachers Training Colleges (TTCs) are not getting loans like their university counterparts? In my opinion, that is violation of Article 27 of the Constitution on discrimination.

With those many remarks---

Power! Power!

Thank you. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, thank you for the opportunity to contribute to this important Bill. Some of us who were born and stayed in the rural areas know the importance of these primary healthcare workers. The primary health workers are the workers who take care of the ordinary person when they get any disease, which is inexplicable, which they cannot use traditional medicine to treat. They fall in the hands of these CHPs. The concept of CHPs came from the Bamako Concept, when medics sat and agreed that there needed to be a formalisation of community health workers who take care of primary diseases at the primary or low level.

Very well. The Senate Majority Leader, Sen. Oburu needs to contribute. He is the first on the list. Sen. Oburu, please proceed.

and give them free kits which they would then dispense of in the village, and charge some minimal fee, so that that money becomes a revolving fund and they keep on buying the medicine for their kit and sustain themselves. So, there was no intention of that Bamako Concept to pay anything. However, later, the Government thought of giving some stipend or small supplement to that concept. People were being paid Kshs2,500. Later on, it increased to Kshs5,000 when the national Government came in and supplemented the counties who were paying Kshs2,500.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, this is now an improvement, even a further improvement on that concept.

Sen. Oburu, there is no ‘Speaker, Sir,’ on the Chair now. There is ‘Madam Speaker.’

Apology accepted.

Madam Temporary Speaker, this concept has now further been improved and it is now being formalised. These primary health workers, at the community level, are now going to be formally employed and they are going to have some little qualification to take care of our mothers, fathers and children at that primary level. This is a very great feat, great achievement for our country. It is a big step forward. I hope that our people will embrace it and now improve provision of services to our people at that level.

Some of us who grew up in the village, were recognizing even just the traditional birth attendants, who attended to mothers’ right in the village, and they knew what to do.

I can see your time is up. I appreciate that those who were raised in the village tend to have a very deep sense of pride in their way of life, food and culture. I will give you one minute because I also grew up in the village so we can hear that story.

We used to recognise clinical officers or just dressers who are dressing wounds in the village as doctors, as we used to call them. Now, we are having people who have, at least, some primary training in healthcare to care for our mothers and children at that primary level. This is a very good improvement.

With those many or few words, I beg to support.

Asante sana, Bi. Spika wa Muda, kwa nafasi hii. Majira ya asubuhi kiongozi wangu wa chama alikuwa na kikao na madaktari-mashinani katika Wadi ya Tuti Marakaru. Niliwahakikishia kwamba katika Seneti sitasinzia, sitalala na nitazungumza kwa niaba yao, kuwatetea.

Nina furaha ghaya mpwitompwito jioni ya leo kuwaambia Wakenya kwamba Serikali ya Kenya Kwanza ambayo mimi ni Kiranja wa Walio Wengi katika Seneti, katika bajeti imewawekea Shilingi bilioni 3.23 kwa hao madaktari-mashinani na hizi ni fedha ambazo tuna uhakika nazo.

Tutashinikiza magavana wanapopitisha bajeti zao muda mchache kutoka sasa, wahikikishe pia wao wanatangaza wazi fedha za madakatari-mashinani hawa kwa sababu

I can see your time is up. I appreciate that those who were raised in the village tend to have a very deep sense of pride in their way of life, food and culture. I will give you one minute because I also grew up in the village so we can hear that story.

We used to recognise clinical officers or just dressers who are dressing wounds in the village as doctors, as we used to call them. Now, we are having people who have, at least, some primary training in healthcare to care for our mothers and children at that primary level. This is a very good improvement.

With those many or few words, I beg to support.

Asante sana, Bi. Spika wa Muda, kwa nafasi hii. Majira ya asubuhi kiongozi wangu wa chama alikuwa na kikao na madaktari-mashinani katika Wadi ya Tuti Marakaru. Niliwahakikishia kwamba katika Seneti sitasinzia, sitalala na nitazungumza kwa niaba yao, kuwatetea.

Nina furaha ghaya mpwitompwito jioni ya leo kuwaambia Wakenya kwamba Serikali ya Kenya Kwanza ambayo mimi ni Kiranja wa Walio Wengi katika Seneti, katika bajeti imewawekea Shilingi bilioni 3.23 kwa hao madaktari-mashinani na hizi ni fedha ambazo tuna uhakika nazo.

Tutashinikiza magavana wanapopitisha bajeti zao muda mchache kutoka sasa, wahikikishe pia wao wanatangaza wazi fedha za madakatari-mashinani hawa kwa sababu

katika kaunti yangu, miezi mitano sasa hawajalipwa. Mheshimiwa Rais akienda vijijini, wao ndio wa kwanza kunyosha vidole viwili kumtukuza lakini wanaumia.

Kule Bungoma, madaktari-mashinani ni 3,590 na wao wanahudumia boma 100 kila mmoja. Hii inaashiria kwamba wao pia wana uwezo wa kueneza amani na mstakabali mwema katika jamii.

Hapa katika bajeti hii ya Shilingi bilioni 3.23, Bungoma inaenda kupata Shilingi milioni107.400. Hizi ni fedha ambazo madaktari mashinani wa Bungoma lazima wajivunie kwamba sisi kama Serikali ama Viongozi wa Walio Wengi na viongozi katika Kenya Kwanza, tumeweka kwenye bajeti pesa zenu ambazo zitakuja bila kupitia ma- broker, katika lugha asili kule mashinani.

Sasa mimi nakushukuru Serikali na madaktari mashinani katika kazi nzuri ambayo wanafanya kutibu watu, kuwapa mawaidha na kuhakikisha kwamba wanawapa matumaini wagonjwa na vile vile kuhakikisha kwamba mashinani afya inaendelea kudumu.

Changamoto tu ni magavana kuhakikisha kwamba bajeti wanazopitisha zina fedha za madaktari hawa. Isiwe sisi Seneti na Serikali ya Kitaifa tunalipa pesa lakini magavana ni kuwayumbisha tu; kuwachezea karata na kuwatishatisha tu wanapoitisha mishahara yao na kuwaambia watawafunga.

Kwa kuungana na hoja ya Sen. Cheruiyot, tunataka kusonga mbele ili wawe pia na stakabadhi ambazo watakuwa wanajua wameandikwa kazi na mshahara ni pesa fulani na kama kuna shida kati yao na muajiri watatumia mbinu zipi kutatua. Isiwe tu kwamba wanafanya kazi kwa huruma ya mtu fulani kwa sababu yeye ni gavana au waziri. Kuwe na mfumo mahsusi ambao watasajiliwa, watafunzwa na kupata utaalamu wa kutosha, ili waendeleze ajenda hii.

Kwa niaba ya watu wa Bungoma, madakatari-mashinani wa Bungoma hapa nimewasomea shilingi milioni 107.400 takribani ambazo ziko katika bajeti ya Serikali ya Kenya. Nitakapokuja nyumbani, nitapambana na Gavana kuhakikisha kwamba pesa zenu zinaonekana na mnalipwa wakati unaostahili.

Nawatakia kila la heri Wakenya katika wikendi ambayo tunajitoza ndani kutoka leo.

Madam Temporary Speaker, thank you for giving me an opportunity to make some brief, albeit insightful, comments on this Bill.

The Community Health workers have blamed the Senate for delaying this, Bill. I am looking at the committee report and it is quite baffling that the committee, which I sit in, unfortunately, I did not participate on that particular day, recommended that this Bill should not proceed.

There is some controversy, which I hope we can clear, so that we move with this Bill. With that in mind, as a disclaimer for my contribution, I want to be very objective in noting the controversy in this Bill. Sometimes it is important to be bold enough and say there is a controversy, but nothing stops us from working around it.

If you look at what this Bill is meant to provide, those who do not want it to proceed have indicated clearly that other pieces of legislation, such as the Community Health Bill of 2020, provide exactly what we want. There is also the Kenya Community

Health Strategy, which is 2020 to 2025, that already establishes the community health units.

I guess the difference between this Bill, and it is important that we look at it from a community and a humanitarian perspective, is that for once, those people who have been in the frontline of providing health to Kenyans are going to be recognized. To demystify my many words, is that they are now going to be added into the payroll of Kenya.

I know we have about 107,000 community health workers. Many of them have not been paid for 29 months. Each community health worker is owed a minimum of Kshs72,500. In Embu alone, they are owed Kshs7.8 million. In fact, that led to recent street protests, where the community health workers were protesting, wanting to be paid.

In the neighbouring County of Kajiado, there are so many community health workers who have not been paid. So, the biggest question for us to deal with today is, is this Bill necessary? Absolutely. Is it important? Yes, it is because we will now formally recognise these unsung heroes who have been there to protect our health care. It is a way of extending the Universal Health Coverage (UHC) in the country.

How are we going to deal with the issues that have been raised in terms of our recurrent expenditure? This is when all of us have to be alive to the fact that our current budget in county governments, as well as the national Government, is going to be bloated. We will have 107,000 more Kenyans who will now be employed on permanent and pensionable basis. So, those are questions that we must ask ourselves. Are we able to deal with that? I think it will be important for the Majority Leader to sit with the Committee on Health and request that the recommendation given by the Committee that this Bill should not proceed, be removed. I am happy to support that.

So, because of time, I just want to reiterate that the importance of this Bill is nothing but the formal recognition and employment of these very critical health workers. When we now finally pass it, we should be ready for the unintended consequences, where there will be minimum wage requirements. This is because you cannot employ somebody and pay them Kshs2,500, yet here in Nairobi, your domestic workers will have to be paid a minimum of Kshs18,000. So, those are things that we must really deal with but is it important? Yes. It means that all those workers who have been working voluntarily will now be formally employed. That is a step in the right direction and it is going to help this country. However, we also have to think about where to get more taxes.

Time is up. Proceed, Sen. Chute.

Thank you very much, Madam Temporary Speaker. When I spoke earlier, I talked about Community Health Promoters (CHPs) and the delay of their stipend. Now, looking at the budget that is being read, I want to thank the Kenya Kwanza Government.

Before I talk about the Bill, allow me to talk about the monies in this budget, which is Kshs3.2 billion for CHPs. On top of the Kshs3.2 billion, Kshs396 million extra amount money is medical insurance for the CHPs.

Sen. Danson Mungatana, you have the Floor.

Madam Temporary Speaker, I want to thank you very much, for giving me the Floor. I wish to move: –

Sen. Danson Mungatana, you have the Floor.

Madam Temporary Speaker, I want to thank you very much, for giving me the Floor. I wish to move: –

Sen. Maanzo, please.

Who is seconding?

I ask Hon. Maanzo, a member of our committee, to second because he sat in those meetings and knows what we did.

Sen. Maanzo, please.

Madam Temporary Speaker, these regulations did not comply with the law. The NTSA, which has delegated power from Parliament, is asking for further delegated power to appoint inspectors who are not government agents.

We asked them to withdraw and republish the regulations to comply and gave them a timeline. They were not willing. Eventually, they said they would withdraw, but we have seen no sign. They are hoping 1st July will come, time will lapse, and these regulations will become law.

They have not followed the law and failed to conduct proper public participation. All they did was hold a meeting with primary school teachers in Mombasa. Most of them do not have school buses or cars and did not understand NTSA’s agenda. Therefore, public participation failed. These three regulations before us must, therefore, be annulled.

Madam Temporary Speaker, I second.

Thank you, Senator.

Honourable Senators, this Motion is now open for contributions. I call upon Sen. Ole Kina.

Hon. Senators, exercising the powers of the Speaker under Standing Order 34 (1) (a) , I extend the time of sitting by not more than 15 minutes so that we can conclude this business.

constitutionally sound. After that, there is publication, then a Bill is read the First Time on the Floor of the House. After First Reading, it is notified to the public that there will be public participation. Some people who do not believe in democracy detest public participation because it slows down everything but it is important.

This Senate and the National Assembly took time to carry out public participation and developed legislation to govern our traffic sector. When they did that, they listened. Even a person who did not understand the importance of that law was educated. A lot of resources were put into use to make sure that people know. School children know they will get to their bus.

Hon. Matiangi came and changed the colours of all school buses to yellow. He copied that from America. Our roads here in Kenya are different. In America, when a school bus stops, there is a piece of metal that comes out with a stop sign and vehicles from both sides have to stop. Kenyans do not know about that. Someone clever, working at the National Transport and Safety Authority (NTSA), decided that they were going to copy and paste that. They take everything that Americans are doing, copy and develop a beautiful legal notice that will do the following. It will create jobs because it will require inspection centres to be put across the country, where everyone, including you, Madam Temporary Speaker, will be required to take their car for inspection in order to get an annual sticker.

Schools will be required to take their buses to garages. Others will go to jua kali to get pieces of metal and put them on vehicles, so that they conform to The Traffic (School Transport) Rules, 2026) Legal Notice No.11 of 2026. This is to be done within two weeks. Come on, why are we being utopian? Why do we not take our time like the time we take in Parliament to pass legislation?

Earlier today, we were discussing the Community Health Bill, which was first read in the National Assembly in 2022 and brought here in November, 2024. Now, we are in June, 2026, debating it at the Second Reading. There is a reason time is important. Kenyans are not the same. Those who live in Nairobi are not the same as those who live outside Nairobi.

Madam Temporary Speaker, we only have nine minutes. I really wish we had more time. This is why I was requesting an extension of time. This is very key. Kenyans, let me tell you, the police will be stopping every motor vehicle. They will be carrying this Legal Notice asking where your telematic is. People will ask, “what is telematics? " It is a speed governor that keeps your speed. You are now required to install it in your vehicles.

Then, guess what? Someone will create a business and you will have to pay a certain amount of money for it to be approved, so that you can use the gadget approved by the NTSA. I wish I had more time to demystify the reason Parliament is annulling these regulations to the public. However, I want Kenyans to know that the Senate of Kenya is working for you. We do not want regulations that will make your life a living hell. We want to ensure that the laws we develop here, and when we delegate powers for certain laws to be made by the Executive, they should be in line with reality. Let us stop being utopian and live in Kenya.

Asante Mhe. Spika wa Muda. Kwanza, napinga kwa dhati. Jambo la kwanza, wanapotuambia kwamba watatengeneza vituo mbadala vya kukagua magari, tunajua wazi kuwa kuna watu ambao wanataka kujitafutia kazi kibinafsi. Walakini, kwa sababu serikali ina uwezo na hakuna kitu imeizuia kuzijenga, hebu ijenge vituo.

Asante, Bi. Spika wa Muda, kwa kunipa nafasi hii ili niweze kuchangia mjadala wa NTSA.

Mambo mengine yanayofanyika katika idara zingine ni chungu kwa sababu yanafanya watu wakasirike. Mambo mengine tumekuwa tunayaona kila wakati. Kuna wakati tulisema mambo ya gadget; kuna wakati walisema mambo ya mishipi, lakini hadi leo, hakuna kitu chochote kinachofanya kazi.

Tukianza kuongea mambo ya mabasi ya shule, wakati huu shule zote zinagoma. Walimu na walimu wakuu wanataka watoto wasafiri, na utekelezwaji wa maagizo haya yamepewa muda mfupi. Ni kitu kitakachotia aibu na kutakuwa na mgomo. Barabara zetu ni mbaya. Magari yetu ambayo tumeyanunua yameharibika kwenye barabara hizi. Kwa hivyo, kuna mambo mengi.

Kabla walete mjadala huu, barabara zitengenezwe. Vitu vinavyowekwa kwa gari viwe vizuri. Mambo mengi yanatakiwa yatengenezwe kwa sababu kila mwaka tukifanya kazi kama hiyo, hakuna vituo vya kutosha vya kukagua magari. Tunajua Kenya ina magari mengi sana. Kwa sababu itapitishwa, italeta aibu. Aibu itaingia, utakuta mambo mengine yatafanya watu wakasirike waseme serikali ni mbaya.

Mambo mengine yalifanywa na wale wengine, na NTSA ni mabaya. Saa hii hakuna gari hata moja ambalo lina mishipi. Tunajua wakati mambo ya mishipi na gadget yalikuja, yalileta shida na yakawa biashara. Hiyo ndio ilikuwa baadhi ya vitu vilivyosemekana viwekwe kwa magari. Saa hii matapeli wameviweka kwa store, ndio sasa ikifunguliwa waanze kuuza kwa bei ya juu.

Economy imezoroteka. Kuna shida. Hakuna biashara wala pesa. Tungetaka hata wafanyikazi waongezewe mishahara. Isitoshe, wanaongea kuhusu NTSA na gadgets. Kama Seneta wa Embu County, napinga hiyo mipango. Najua kwamba, mambo mengine hata kama yanapitishwa ni lazima public participation ifanywe. Kwa hivyo, hili ni suala ambalo liko na laana na haina respect hata kidogo, na itaaibisha. Kwa hivyo, naunga mkono huu Mjadala utemwe na usirudishwe hadi public participation ifanywe.

Vile vile, barabara zetu zote zinafaa ziwe sawa kama vile ng’ambo. Zingekuwa barabara kama za United Kingdom (UK) , United States of America au Korea, tungejua mambo yatakuwa mazuri. Walakini, unanunua gari na within miezi mitatu, hilo gari linaharibika. Isitoshe, tax na bei ya mafuta imepanda sana. Kwa hivyo, napinga.

Asante, Bi. Spika wa Muda.

Thank you, Sen. Mundigi of Embu County.

Sen. Murango, please, proceed.

Asante Mhe. Spika wa Muda. Kwanza, napinga kwa dhati. Jambo la kwanza, wanapotuambia kwamba watatengeneza vituo mbadala vya kukagua magari, tunajua wazi kuwa kuna watu ambao wanataka kujitafutia kazi kibinafsi. Walakini, kwa sababu serikali ina uwezo na hakuna kitu imeizuia kuzijenga, hebu ijenge vituo.

Hon. Senators, I now direct that the putting of the question will be deferred to the next sitting of Senate, especially with respect to the Motion that was under discussion.

Clerk, can you call the next Order? We have a few minutes.

Thank you, Hon. Senators. There are no more Senators willing to contribute to this Motion. So, I will call the Mover of this Motion, Sen. Danson Mungatana of Tana River County, to reply.

Madam Temporary Speaker, I would like to thank the Hon. Maanzo, Hon. Olekina, Hon. Mundigi and Hon. Murango for their great contribution.

Madam Temporary Speaker, the Senate must stand for the people of Kenya. There is no way we are going to allow these regulations to come in effect, 1st July, 2026. It is going to bring chaos to this country, and we must stand very firm. We must vote to annul those three regulations.

Madam Temporary Speaker, I beg to reply, and pursuant to Standing Order No. 66 (3) , request that the voting on this Motion be deferred to a later date.

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

Hon. Senators, I now direct that the putting of the question will be deferred to the next sitting of Senate, especially with respect to the Motion that was under discussion.

Clerk, can you call the next Order? We have a few minutes.

Madam Temporary Speaker, I was waiting for you to call me.

at the time of death. Every person has the right to access ART services by licensed experts. The informed consent must be mandatory.

This law also focusses on access to information. It establishes ART registers and databases. It restricts disclosure of donor recipient identities. It provides that minors cannot access certain information. It also brings in a regime for licensing of clinics and cryobanks.

We actually have clinics and cryobanks that are running these services in Kenya today. You may have heard of young people, some of them from universities, whom when they get broke, look for a place where they can go to donate sperms or eggs. This law will help bring some ethics in this practise.

ART is expected to protect confidentiality under this law. Children born through ART have equal rights under the Constitution. Surrogacy is fully regulated with surrogate mothers being of a particular age. Surrogacy agreements must be altruistic, where there should be no commercial payment beyond the medical expenses. It prohibits sex selection and sale of gametes and embryos.

Madam Temporary Speaker, you can see that out of the issues that I have raised, we are actually doing what Parliament ought to have anticipated. The day the world first talked about surrogacy, the responsibility of the Parliament of Kenya was to think ahead and find out what it would mean for Kenya.

It is just the same as when I was arguing about the vapes. We have had children having access to vapes in Kenya for eight years unregulated because we did not anticipate---

Sen. Mumma, you will have 45 minutes when we next commence debate on this Bill.

Madam Temporary Speaker, first, to thank you most sincerely, for indulging me to be able to move this, Bill. I beg to move that The Assisted Reproductive Technology Bills 2022, (National Assembly Bills No. 61 of 2022) be now read a Second Time. I commend my co-sponsor for this very important Bill. Technology has assisted humanity, at large in very profound ways. What is turning out is that parliaments and scientists seem to be working in silos. Whereas technology is advancing and is able to be applied, whether in the field of health, issues such as smoking, you will recall my Bill on tobacco, whether in the communication and AI, parliaments are dragging behind in developing the necessary regulations, to ensure that even as we gain from these technologies, we also protect against any violations that will be there. The Bill is Kenya's first comprehensive legal framework for assisted reproductive technology. It is a Bill that seeks to balance access to assisted reproductive technology services, but ensuring that we embed ethical safeguards, protect children, protect surrogates, prohibit commercial exploitation and establish a big and strong regulatory oversight to enable these protections to be able to be carried out. This Bill seeks to align reproductive rights with constitutional guarantees while addressing medical, social, and moral concerns around surrogacy, gamete donation and embryo use. I am sure you have heard or you know of one, two or three people who have been beneficiaries of surrogacy. Recently, at the prayer breakfast, I think one of the key speakers spoke to her being a beneficiary of these technologies, and these technologies are good. I believe God gives us the knowledge, wisdom and the science in order for us to benefit from it. That is how cure for malaria and ARVs for HIV management for instance were found. It is God's providence that he brings a solution to a medical problem that will be there. Infertility is also an important medical issue within our societies, particularly African societies which value having children. It affects men as well as women. It is an issue that has caused a lot of depression among couples that are unable to have a child because of some fertility issues. Whether it is by the male or female partner, they always have some sadness around them. Just the way we have found a solution to orthopaedic issues and malaria, it is also important for us to find solutions for infertility. We know we have infertility clinics and

our experts on fertility matters have gone ahead. Now, it is possible to harvest eggs and sperms from two partners and find a third party to incubate the embryo and have a child.

This is happening in Kenya and elsewhere in the world, where parliaments in those places have put in place laws and regulations to ensure that those who need this service are assisted. They should operate in an ethical manner that ensures they will not exploit, particularly vulnerable persons who might look at this service and commercialise it. It is put in place to ensure even those who choose to commercialise, do not take advantage of poor vulnerable people who might find this as an easy way to make money to change their lives. It also ensures that even those who risk their lives, sometimes by being surrogate mothers, are protected by adequate health insurance to ensure that they operate well. It is also the space to regulate against the country's own moral standards whatever you choose, to decide which people should seek surrogacy services in order to get a child.

So, I urge colleagues in the Senate to take this Bill seriously. Look at it and together, we understand that, as a country, these services are going on unregulated. We have commercial teams, some of them based out of the country, who know they can walk into a village in Kenya, where they are vulnerable people and pick a girl to carry a baby for them for small money. The brokers get big monies from those who do these jobs. So, this is a Bill, that I urge Members to read.

I have done very good and simple notes that will enable us to understand it. It has preliminary provisions with clarity on the interpretations of the different terms that deal within this industry. It is setting up an assisted reproductive technology committee, which will be established under the Kenya Medical Practitioners and Dentists Council (KMPDC), with clear functions to ensure that we safeguard children's rights. Also, ensure that children born under ART also have equal rights to children not born under ART.

The other day in Istanbul, I was a panelist on statelessness. This is one area where if we are not careful, a child born out of surrogacy may very well legally be denied the status of a state. So, this particular law helps to ensure we will not make children born out of surrogacy stateless. It prohibits certain activities. For instance, it bans the creation or using of embryos outside permitted conditions. Therefore, it sets conditions under which that should happen. It requires informed consent for use of gametes or embryos.

The ART is only allowed for medical reasons, not for experimentation, medication or modification of human race, or commercialisation purposes. We are ensuring that those who might become curious enough with malicious intent do not use this science for evil purposes. It prohibits cloning; for instance, mixing human gametes with animal gametes and use of gametes from children except under strict medical conditions. It limits gamete donation caps at 10 times and surrogacy is capped at three times per woman, with a two-year gap in between the births. It limits cryobanks and restricts the donors age to be 21 to 35 for men and 23 and 35 for women. In terms of disposal of gametes, that is allowed after 10 years for research under strict conditions.

Madam Temporary Speaker, this Bill talks about the rights of parents under surrogacy, the rights of surrogates, the rights of donors and children. It also addresses issues like posthumous reproduction only being valid with written consent and marriage

at the time of death. Every person has the right to access ART services by licensed experts. The informed consent must be mandatory.

This law also focusses on access to information. It establishes ART registers and databases. It restricts disclosure of donor recipient identities. It provides that minors cannot access certain information. It also brings in a regime for licensing of clinics and cryobanks.

We actually have clinics and cryobanks that are running these services in Kenya today. You may have heard of young people, some of them from universities, whom when they get broke, look for a place where they can go to donate sperms or eggs. This law will help bring some ethics in this practise.

ART is expected to protect confidentiality under this law. Children born through ART have equal rights under the Constitution. Surrogacy is fully regulated with surrogate mothers being of a particular age. Surrogacy agreements must be altruistic, where there should be no commercial payment beyond the medical expenses. It prohibits sex selection and sale of gametes and embryos.

Madam Temporary Speaker, you can see that out of the issues that I have raised, we are actually doing what Parliament ought to have anticipated. The day the world first talked about surrogacy, the responsibility of the Parliament of Kenya was to think ahead and find out what it would mean for Kenya.

It is just the same as when I was arguing about the vapes. We have had children having access to vapes in Kenya for eight years unregulated because we did not anticipate---

Sen. Mumma, you will have 45 minutes when we next commence debate on this Bill.