Amos Muhinga Kimunya

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I rise to second the County Allocation of Revenue Bill which was passed in the Senate yesterday, after a lot of deliberation, notwithstanding the fact that the figures are the same as last year’s. I want to thank the Senate...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Chair, while I agree with the need for protection, I want to inform the Members that I had already provided for that in the Bill. Clause 5 basically protects any person who held office as a member of the board, or as...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman. The issue goes beyond what is on paper. When you see a toad jumping during the day, something is chasing it. The current Commissioner-General and the commissioners of KRA have been under constant attack by a certain group of...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP)Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman. The import of this amendment is to specifically limit the service of the current commissioners, the Commissioner-General and members of the board to only the unexpired term. Thereafter, they will not be eligible. This is such a fundamental alteration of...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the whole House has considered the County Allocation of Revenue (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bill No.1 of 2022) and approved the same without amendments. The Temporary Deputy Speaker (Hon. Christopher Omulele) : Mover.

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, I beg to move that the House doth agree with the Committee in the said Report. I request Hon. Waihenya to second the Motion for agreement with the Report of the Committee of the whole House.

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table of the House today, Thursday, 9th June, 2022: The Judicial Service Tribunal to inquire into the conduct of Justice Said Juma Chitembwe; Rules and Procedures 2022 published as Gazette Notice No. 6608 of...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order No.28 on the Calendar of National Assembly (Regular Sessions) this House adjourns Sine Die. Let me take this opportunity to thank the leadership of this House for the guidance that it...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Thank you. In honour of our two former presidents, I ask that we rise again for a minute to honour these long-serving Members of Parliament who went all the way to be Presidents. (Hon. Members observed a moment of silence) May their souls rest in...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the whole House has considered the Appropriation Bill (National Assembly Bill No.31 of 2022) , and approved the same with amendments.

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the whole House has considered the Higher Education Loans Board (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly No.37 of 2020) , and approved the same with amendments.

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the whole House has considered the Information Communication Technology Practitioners Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 38 of 2020) and approved the same with amendments.

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the whole House has considered the Insurance Professionals Registration Bill (National Assembly Bill No.25 of 2020) and approved the same with amendments.

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, I beg to move that the Kenya Revenue Authority (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.24 of 2022) be now read a Second Time. Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, as Members would be aware, during the budget highlights, the Cabinet Secretary for the...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. As I was indicating, this Bill is very straightforward. It basically seeks to change the name of the Kenya Revenue Authority to the Kenya Revenue Service (KRS) . This is to emphasise the core objective of the revenue body,...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. I am happy that so many Members have contributed to this Bill. It looks so simplistic that we are just June 8, 2022 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 67 Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP)changing a name but obviously, as Members have...

Hon Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I beg to move the following Procedural Motion: THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 30 (3) (a) , this House orders that should the time appointed for adjournment of the House be reached before conclusion of business appearing under...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that the Supreme Court (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.15 of 2022) be now read the Third Time. Let me take this opportunity to thank the Members who did it. This is a Bill that we only introduced into...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Speaker, I have heard the comments that have been made by Members on the purported constitutional issues. I will leave that to you to guide. But from what I have heard, the issues seem to be, first on the issues of the students being...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, I beg to report that a Committee of the whole House has considered the Supplementary Appropriation (No.2) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.33 of 2022) and approved the same with amendments. The Temporary Deputy Speaker (Hon. (Ms.) Soipan Tuya) : I call...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. This was a good day. I want to congratulate the Chair of the Committee and the House for processing this Bill. In addition, I request you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker; that, pursuant to Standing Order 53, even at the...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, I beg to move the following Motion: THAT, pursuant to the provisions of sections 7 and 8 of the Treaty Making and Ratification Act, 2012, this House approves the Ratification of the Defence Co- operation between the Kingdom of Denmark and...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. The Motion is self-evident and its importance is straight forward. We had an agreement that worked very well and lapsed and it is being renewed. All we are being called upon to do is to officially ratify it. I...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table of the House: African Union (AU) Convention on Cross-Border Cooperation (Niamey Convention) and its explanatory Memorandum. The Legal Notice No.92 of 2022 relating to the Public Service Commission (County Appeals) Procedures...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP)

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) He was here for some time, and then he was here in spirit. (Laughter)

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I beg to move: THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Section 50 (2) of the Public Finance Management Act, 2012, this House approves the Public Finance Management (National Government) (Amendment) Regulations, 2022 published as Legal Notice No.89 of 26th May 2022,...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. This is a very important Motion. I am very happy because Members have ventilated and put on record some of the sentiments which I do not doubt that the administration which will come will follow them. For the record, it is...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I rise to support the Report of the Committee and thank it for working on it. It is really difficult to raise quorum of a committee June 7, 2022 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 50 Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP)at this time of...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP)Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman, on behalf of the Chair of the Departmental Committee on Transport, Public Works and Housing, I beg to move:THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting Clause 2. This is for tiding up because this Bill attempts to define what is already defined...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, I beg to second. June 7, 2022 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 58 Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP)I thank Hon. Kamket and his Committee on Delegated Legislation for bringing this amendment. It is a timely amendment to the National Transport Safety Authority (NTSA)....

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I have listened very carefully. We are looking at Article 154 of the Constitution and, as the Chair of the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs respond, he should consider taking this into account. There was a substantive Secretary to...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) So, there are so many situations that may not have been anticipated in this Constitution but can occur. We can have a person properly appointed as the Secretary to the Cabinet who has started doing the duties of the Chairman of the Assumption of the...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) I am not digressing. Any utterances or statements we make on the Floor of this House, we are not talking to ourselves but to the world and downgrading the preparedness of Kenya to hold a credible election on 9th August. Obviously, every Member is at...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. I rise to support the Finance Bill of 2022. From the outset, I recognise that Finance Bills are usually very complex. Very few people are able to go through it and understand because it is talking of amending some...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table of the House today, Tuesday, 24th May 2022: The 2021/2022 Supplementary Estimates II program-based budget of the National Government of Kenya for the Year ending 30th June 2022; The 2021/2022 Supplementary Estimates II...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I beg to move the following Procedural Motion: THAT, in view of the short period remaining before the commencement of Sine Die Recess, this House orders that, notwithstanding the provisions of Standing Order 40 (3) , Business sponsored by the Majority...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that the Children Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 38 of 2021) be now read a Third Time. Hon. Speaker, as I move this Third Reading, I want to recognise the efforts the Members have put in this Bill. This...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP)

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman, I was following the amendment proposed by the Chair of the Departmental Committee on Defence and Foreign Relations from the Order Paper. The amendment he is proposing is actually to delete sub-clauses 6 (a) , (b) and (c) which is part...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman. I want to thank Hon. Chair for that. I also want to thank Hon. Rasso for alerting us. Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman, I beg to move;- THAT, Clause 6 of the Bill be amended—

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP)

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP)

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration of the Military Veterans Bill (National Assembly Bill No.4 of 2022) and its approval thereof with amendments. (Question put and agreed to) THE PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES BILL...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Chairman, I beg to move that the Committee does report to the House its consideration of the Persons with Disabilities Bill (National Assembly Bill No.61 of 2021) and its approval thereof with amendments. (Question proposed) May 24, 2022 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 44 THE NG-CDF...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, I beg to move that the House does agree with the Committee in the said report. I request Hon. Tong’i, the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Defence and Foreign Relations, to second the Motion. The Temporary Deputy Speaker (Hon. Christopher...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, I beg to move that the House does agree with the Committee in the said report. I request Hon. Koske to second. The Temporary Deputy Speaker (Hon. Christopher Omulele) : Hon. Koske.

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP)Let us make progress.

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, I beg to report that a Committee of the whole House has considered the National Government Constituencies Development Fund (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.4 of 2021) and approved the same with amendments. The Temporary Deputy Speaker (Hon. Christopher Omulele) :...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) I support the Report of the Committee subject to the following amendment, which I beg to move: THAT, the Motion be amended by inserting the following words after the words “Kenya Defence Forces” at the end of paragraph two: “subject to deletion of Paragraph 71...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table of the House: The 2022 Pre-Election Economic and Fiscal Report from the National Treasury; Report to Parliament on all new loans contracted by the Government from 1st January 2022 to 30th April 2022...

Hon Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (a) , I rise to give the following Statement on behalf of the House Business Committee, which met on Tuesday, 17th May 2022, to prioritise the business for consideration. As Members are aware, we...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Speaker, indeed, I undertook to follow up the matter. I contacted the Attorney General and the Vice-Chair of the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs Committee. He is seized of the matter, and I believe he is going to bring a Statement on...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Speaker, I would prefer that we go through the usual route. The answer will be referred to the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs so that they can interrogate it. If necessary, they will summon the author to shed light on it and...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) It was a Statement.

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP)

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady, I beg to move: THAT, the Bill be amended in Clause 250 by—

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration of the Children’s Bill (National Assembly Bill No.38 of 2021) and its approval thereof with amendments. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) (The House resumed) [The...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the said Report. May 19, 2022 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 15 Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP)As I call Hon. Millie Odhiambo to second the Motion for agreement with the Report of the...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP)Not quite. The Temporary Deputy Speaker (Hon. (Ms.) Jessica Mbalu) : On the request made by the Member for Kitui South, you know the process; it should come from the Chairperson as a matter of procedure. Of course, changing a Report has to be procedurally done....

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order No.28 (4) , this House resolves to alter its Calendar (Regular Sessions) for the Sixth Session (2022) so as to: Hold Sittings during the month of...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) This is so that we can know the parameters that would be operating in terms of the Estimates. We have also not looked at the County Allocation of Revenue Bill, which is yet to come from the Senate.

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) My apologies. I got distracted by the Members who are moving around. I think I have given notice.

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said Report. I also request, Hon. Kabinga to second the Motion for agreement with the Report of the Committee of the whole House.

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP)

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman, I was completing moving my amendment. It is basically to provide for the transitional arrangement for those institutions which are currently being publicly funded, and to also recognize their role under this new Act. For the next two years, they will...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman, I beg to move that the Committee does report to the House its consideration of the Children Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 38 of 2021) and its approval thereof with amendments. (Question proposed)

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, I beg to move that the House does agree with the Committee in the said report. I request Hon. Millie Odhiambo to second. May 18, 2022 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 42 Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP)The Temporary Deputy Speaker (Hon. Patrick Mariru):...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, as you can see, it is really a momentous situation. This is probably the longest Bill we have had to process. Under Standing Order 53, I request that we defer putting the Question to another time so that we can celebrate...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. I rise to support this Report by the Committee. I thank them for not only the work that they have put into this Motion but also the quality of the Report. At times, you get a Report but you...

Hon. Kimunya Amos (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table of the House: Legal Notice No.31 of 2022 relating to the Prevention of Terrorism (Implementation of the United Nations Security Council Resolutions on Suppression of Terrorism) Regulations, 2022 and the Explanatory Memorandum from...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that the House agrees with the Committee in the said Report. I also request Hon. Jude Njomo to second the Motion for agreement with the Report of the Committee of the whole House.

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I want to thank Hon. Shamalla for rising to the occasion. Indeed, we were discussing whether this Report is already here. I know she is a very hardened Member of the Committee and could move even without the benefit of fore-warning....

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman, I beg to move that the Committee doth report to the House its consideration of the Children Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 38 of 2021) up to New Clause 35B and its approval thereof with amendments, and seek leave to sit...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table of the House. Reports of the Auditor-General and Financial Statements in respect to the following institutions for the year ended 30th June 2021 and the certificates therein:

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order No.44 (2) (a) , I rise to give the following Statement on behalf of the House Business Committee, which met on Tuesday, 10th May 2022, to prioritise business for consideration. I trust the Members have had...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said Report. I request Hon. Aduma Owuor to second the Motion for agreement with the Report of the Committee of the whole House.

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said Report and I also request Hon. Kabinga to second the Motion for agreement with the Report of the Committee of the whole House.

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP)

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Chairman, arising from that, and for clarity to the Members, the Committee is further, proposing other re-organisations of functions which will come as New clause 35, later on. Deletion of this will not stop the Committee from re-introducing the new clauses to a further,...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, pursuant to Standing Order 35 (2) (b) , I beg to report that quorum was not realised upon expiration of 10 minutes of ringing the Quorum Bell. ADJOURNMENT May 12, 2022 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 63

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table of the House: Memorandum on the accession to the 1970 UNESCO Convention on the means of prohibiting and preventing the illicit import, export and transfer of ownership of cultural property from the Ministry...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady, I beg to move that the Committee doth report to the House in its consideration of the National Disaster Risk Management Bill (National Assembly Bill No.28 of 2021) and its approval thereof with amendments. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to)...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady. I am following the amendment by Hon. Millie. What she is proposing as (b) is already in the Bill. Clause 9 of the Bill says: “Notwithstanding Sections 7 and 8, differential treatment of a child which is intended to...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady. I am trying to reconcile myself to the import of the amendment to subsection (2) . Clause 13 (2) of the Bill states: “It shall be the responsibility of every parent or guardian to permit and facilitate the enjoyment...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady, even before Hon. Nyenze agrees or otherwise, I see in the amendment the difference between what Hon. Nyenze is proposing and what is in the Bill. Her version is specific on children with severe disabilities. However, within the Bill we already...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady.

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady, I want to believe that a geneticist is a medical profession. (An Hon. Member informed Hon. Amos Kimunya off record) Is it defined in the Bill? (Hon. (Ms.) Odhiambo-Mabona spoke off record) I want to make sure that by the time...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady, when I look at the definition of a geneticist, it is an expert in or student of heredity and the variation of inherited characteristics. I do not know whether we should go with a medical specialist. Within the regulations, we can...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Medical geneticist.

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady, I basically see Hon. Millie’s amendment as simplification of the provisions which were in the Bill. What the Bill had tried to do is to cater for all kinds of situations like people in wedlock, out of wedlock and people who...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Let me see if I can get it. Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady, I beg to move: THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting Clause 35. Clause 35 of the Bill is basically defining the functions of…

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Yes. I am also explaining.

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) What I could do is just to…

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) To be fair to the Chair, he has just communicated the advisory from the Speaker’s Office. All amendments are approved by the Speaker. Whether it is private or Committee amendments, they go to the Speaker. I have a copy of that letter. It is in...

Hon. Amos Kimunya (Kipipiri, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, I beg to report that pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order No. 35 (2) (b) and upon the expiration of 10 minutes of ringing the Quorum Bell, quorum was not realised. The Temporary Deputy Speaker (Hon. (Ms.) Soipan Tuya) :...