Julius Lekakeny Sunkuli

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU)(Technical hitch)I am in a difficult position because I am opposing Dr Nyikal, my Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Health. I support his concept except that it needs to be followed by a definition of the word preregistration. 3rd December 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 34...

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) I support the deletion of the word certificate because there would be too many definitions. Under the Kenya National Examinations Council Act, it would have a different definition from this and at any rate, it is not very clear what kind of certificate that would...

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) I urge Members not to pass this amendment. I want to be on record. How can we make a law stating that the Cabinet Secretary shall make regulations in consultation with the relevant State organs? Which are they? Whom will the Cabinet Secretary consult? We...

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) I have a problem with that because Clause 15 is a provision on delegated legislation. This one seems to produce another issue. Is this the clause that states that in recruiting candidates for employment, a public service institution shall consider a candidate’s previous internship? Is...

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, Hon. Gichimu is the Vice-Chairperson of the Committee on Delegated Legislation and I am also a Member of that Committee. This is where the cabinet secretaries get the power to make regulations but it is difficult to put this as a mandatory...

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I oppose that amendment because it does not conform to the reality in Kenya. Most schools, the Rift Valley Institute, Utalii College and others, require their students to go for an internship, but they are given a period of three months. Introducing...

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) I support, Hon. Temporary Chairlady, in view of the fact that the Social Health Authority (SHA) is not a responsibility for the employer at the moment. It is going to be a contravention of the fact that the employer does not participate in the SHA,...

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I was concentrating on Clause 2 that I forgot about Clause 9. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) : We will get to Clause 2. We are yet to handle it. Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I propose...

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) I support the amendment but I would like to bring to the attention of the House that the amendment we have just passed is incorrect. Clause 7 (b) says: “has not been exposed to work experience related to the person’s area of study” The Temporary...

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) If the Chairman is amending Clause 5, he may consider vacating it, as he has not internalised it. We could say he is dropping the amendment because it does not relate to Clause 5. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) : I agree. I...

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) I rise on a point of order to request a more reasoned decision by you on this issue of referring the statement to the Committee. We do not refer matters directly to the Cabinet Secretary. The Committee is not a conduit. In the present setup,...

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) On a point of order, Hon. Deputy Speaker.

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU)(Technical hitch)I am in a difficult position because I am opposing Dr Nyikal, my Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Health. I support his concept except that it needs to be followed by a definition of the word preregistration. 3rd December 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 34...

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) I support the deletion of the word certificate because there would be too many definitions. Under the Kenya National Examinations Council Act, it would have a different definition from this and at any rate, it is not very clear what kind of certificate that would...

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) I urge Members not to pass this amendment. I want to be on record. How can we make a law stating that the Cabinet Secretary shall make regulations in consultation with the relevant State organs? Which are they? Whom will the Cabinet Secretary consult? We...

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) I have a problem with that because Clause 15 is a provision on delegated legislation. This one seems to produce another issue. Is this the clause that states that in recruiting candidates for employment, a public service institution shall consider a candidate’s previous internship? Is...

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, Hon. Gichimu is the Vice-Chairperson of the Committee on Delegated Legislation and I am also a Member of that Committee. This is where the cabinet secretaries get the power to make regulations but it is difficult to put this as a mandatory...

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I oppose that amendment because it does not conform to the reality in Kenya. Most schools, the Rift Valley Institute, Utalii College and others, require their students to go for an internship, but they are given a period of three months. Introducing...

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) I support, Hon. Temporary Chairlady, in view of the fact that the Social Health Authority (SHA) is not a responsibility for the employer at the moment. It is going to be a contravention of the fact that the employer does not participate in the SHA,...

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I was concentrating on Clause 2 that I forgot about Clause 9. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) : We will get to Clause 2. We are yet to handle it. Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I propose...

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) I support the amendment but I would like to bring to the attention of the House that the amendment we have just passed is incorrect. Clause 7 (b) says: “has not been exposed to work experience related to the person’s area of study” The Temporary...

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) If the Chairman is amending Clause 5, he may consider vacating it, as he has not internalised it. We could say he is dropping the amendment because it does not relate to Clause 5. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) : I agree. I...

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) I rise on a point of order to request a more reasoned decision by you on this issue of referring the statement to the Committee. We do not refer matters directly to the Cabinet Secretary. The Committee is not a conduit. In the present setup,...

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) On a point of order, Hon. Deputy Speaker.

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, JP) I will sit down, Hon. Temporary Speaker, because the Departmental Committee on Health did not attend the meeting that was adjourned.

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I would like to acknowledge the guidance that you gave about reservations. It is internationally recognised that sections with reservations will not have force of law. Since reservations can also be rejected by the other party, I hope that those who will...

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) Hon Temporary Speaker, the issues Hon. Oundo has raised are very weighty. (The Temporary Speaker consulted with the Clerk-at-the-Table) Sorry, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I am waiting for your attention. The matter is weighty and I am sure you would like to rule on it. However,...

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) It exactly relates to your interest. In the treaty making process, Parliament has been placed as one of the organs that will facilitate ratification of treaties that are made between Kenya and other countries. The point of order is to seek either your guidance or...

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, JP) The Temporary Speaker has made a decision with respect to the Departmental Committee to which Hon. (Dr) Oundo belongs. If you clearly heard from Hon. Marianne, the original meeting that was supposed to be held…

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, JP) I will sit down, Hon. Temporary Speaker, because the Departmental Committee on Health did not attend the meeting that was adjourned.

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I would like to acknowledge the guidance that you gave about reservations. It is internationally recognised that sections with reservations will not have force of law. Since reservations can also be rejected by the other party, I hope that those who will...

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) Hon Temporary Speaker, the issues Hon. Oundo has raised are very weighty. (The Temporary Speaker consulted with the Clerk-at-the-Table) Sorry, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I am waiting for your attention. The matter is weighty and I am sure you would like to rule on it. However,...

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) It exactly relates to your interest. In the treaty making process, Parliament has been placed as one of the organs that will facilitate ratification of treaties that are made between Kenya and other countries. The point of order is to seek either your guidance or...

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, JP) The Temporary Speaker has made a decision with respect to the Departmental Committee to which Hon. (Dr) Oundo belongs. If you clearly heard from Hon. Marianne, the original meeting that was supposed to be held…

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) Hon. Speaker, I would like to join my colleague, the Member for Luanda, who requested the Statement, and say that this Statement needs to be redone. This is because the Statement simply says that you should not compare KQ with Qatar Airways and others because...

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) Hon. Speaker, I would like to join my colleague, the Member for Luanda, who requested the Statement, and say that this Statement needs to be redone. This is because the Statement simply says that you should not compare KQ with Qatar Airways and others because...

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) No. She will do it, but I will also contribute. Pardon? The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) : No problem. Proceed. 5th November 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 11 Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I understand the comments or sentiments of the...

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) Maybe I can take the comments if I am still on the Floor then I can continue. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) : Okay.

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) Sorry, I have a point of order to put the record straight about this issue of having children that are not yours during the marriage. They are not there by faith, but by law, because there is a presumption of law. I want to correct...

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) It is not a point of order. I want to joy ride on that request for a statement. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) You may proceed. Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU)Hon. Temporary Speaker, coming from an area more or less like the one...

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I am actually grateful because we all suffer this problem. Childlessness is not one person's thing. However, I want to inform the Hon. Member, she is a lawyer like me, that, fortunately, the law protects me. The law says that all children...

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) No. She will do it, but I will also contribute. Pardon? The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) : No problem. Proceed. 5th November 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 11 Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I understand the comments or sentiments of the...

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) Maybe I can take the comments if I am still on the Floor then I can continue. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) : Okay.

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) Sorry, I have a point of order to put the record straight about this issue of having children that are not yours during the marriage. They are not there by faith, but by law, because there is a presumption of law. I want to correct...

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) It is not a point of order. I want to joy ride on that request for a statement. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) You may proceed. Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU)Hon. Temporary Speaker, coming from an area more or less like the one...

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I am actually grateful because we all suffer this problem. Childlessness is not one person's thing. However, I want to inform the Hon. Member, she is a lawyer like me, that, fortunately, the law protects me. The law says that all children...

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) Hon. Temporary Speaker, in support of this Motion, I urge the House to nullify these regulations. When they were presented before our Committee, two problems arose. First, they were already dead on arrival because they were not presented within the time required under the Statutory...

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) Hon. Speaker, while I appreciate the request for a statement by our Hon. friend, I ask that when the statement is read, let it not be limited to Runyenjes only. This is becoming a serious problem that calls upon the Cabinet Secretary in charge of...

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) Hon. Temporary Speaker, in support of this Motion, I urge the House to nullify these regulations. When they were presented before our Committee, two problems arose. First, they were already dead on arrival because they were not presented within the time required under the Statutory...

Hon. Julius Sunkuli (Kilgoris, KANU) Hon. Speaker, while I appreciate the request for a statement by our Hon. friend, I ask that when the statement is read, let it not be limited to Runyenjes only. This is becoming a serious problem that calls upon the Cabinet Secretary in charge of...