Henry Kiptiwa Ndiema

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Order! I have not given you the Floor. Sen. Kivuti, maybe you could answer to those three issues. (Laughter) Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, these plots were allocated---

Order! I have not given you the Floor. Sen. Kivuti, maybe you could answer to those three issues.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, this matter took quite some time because we gave an answer to this House quite a while ago. Several additional clarifications were sought and that prompted us to make in-depth investigation into the two cases; both Chepchoina and Masongaleni. Now the good thing is that when...

sought now are not very serious.We got a presentation from Sen. Kittony about some people and now Sen. Nabwala is reporting that there has been some disquiet to the point of some people being killed. We know that in land matters, you cannot completely disquiet people. What was presented in...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I am surprised that my Committee Member has already made a conclusion even before I finish the first sentence on what he requested for. The identity card numbers that the Senator is asking for are all listed in the report. There is the name, the identity...

I do not belong to your committee, but in what context do you want to know the area of residence of each allottee, so that we can know whether we are going to send it back? Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, it has been a policy for the Government when allocating...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the question being sought is now being changed because everything about the percentages of communities who were allocated land is contained in this report. However, I am aware that Sen. Ndiema needed further information on the identification cards. That is to say, the information which is...

It is true the information is all there, but he needed to know each person. Huyu alichukulia kipande kipi in which sub location. May be that is the kind of information he wants to know. I do not know where we are getting on this. The problem I have here...

On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. Sen. Ndiema has made a claim that there is a Government policy that specifies that when this kind of land is being allocated, there should be a certain percentage going to the local community. I think it would be important that...

On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I need a clarification because it has been quite a while since this issue was raised and the plight of those people is wanting. I do not know whether I am in order to ask what their plight is. Are we...

Yes, because land is a very sensitive issue. If you have read the report, you know what I said, Sen. Kittony; that the report was tabled and I requested Senators to read it so that they can seek specific clarifications from it. What you are asking could be in the...

your question. I do not know about the policy that you raised or where it is, but on the issue of numbers, because I do not want us to dwell here to long, I will refer you to pages eight and nine of the report which talks about the people...

On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. The issue and situations on minorities of this country in the management of their historical rights of land cannot be put under the table by ignoring the legitimacy of Sen. Ndiema’s question to know--- Order Sen. (Dr.) Machage! Who is ignoring...

I am coming to that. No. Who is ignoring the quest, is it the Speaker or the Chairperson of the Committee?

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, that is being openly seen from the statement and the denial or total refusal of the Chairperson of that Committee to address a question that Sen. Ndiema has persistently asked in all the days that he has tabled that statement in this House. He has the...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I support Sen. Ndiema because---

It is not a question of supporting, what is your point of order?

My point of order is; in the first paper that was tabled in this House, Sen. Kivuti had a Statement on the policy which said 60 per cent of land would be reserved for locals and 40 per cent was for foreigners. Why he is insisting on the ID numbers...

Mr.Deputy Speaker, Sir, I had actually put my request for an intervention earlier, but you have dealt with some of the issues. We have dealt with this issue and it has taken such a long time in the committee. We have had consultative meetings with other Members and the leadership...

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Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I want to thank the Senate Majority Leader. In doing what he did, he saved a situation. When you look at what is happening, it appears as if we are not respecting the President because we are sending Bills to him which he should...

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I want to add that on the same statement, he should state whether our police service is prepared and has been assisted to deal with incidences of this nature.

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Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am seeking clarification.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I was wondering whether the Senator for Samburu is older than he looks. When this programme was started, we understood that it was a pilot project. Normally in a pilot project, you would want to experience and rectify or correct some anomalies that come in....

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the Cabinet Secretary yesterday said that, that is not a question for him and that we should ask the Public Service Commission (PSC) . So, it should actually involve the relevant--- (Applause)

On a point of order, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, is the Senator for Siaya in order to say that the proceedings we had yesterday were roadside and informal yet it was a full Committee meeting?

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Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I support this Motion and thank the Mover. This Motion makes some of us feel appreciated by other Senators in this House. I am touched to realize that Sen. Karaba and other Senators have great love for persons living with disabilities. I also take...

Proceed, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale. [The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Murkomen) took the Chair] and they have to be updated.Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the worry here is that there are different priorities for the county governments and training for medical practitioners may not be adequate. Their being employed by counties will limit...

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Mr. Speaker, Sir, I want to also seek something along the line of Sen. Elachi.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, with your permission, I am requesting that when the statement comes, it should also include county assemblies because he has asked about the executive. This is so because it appears that in some counties, the executive has been covered and not the county assemblies. Thank you.

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But, Mr. Speaker, Sir--- Order! The Deputy Governor is not out of the job. So, he will not suffer any damage for the next couple of days. My ruling is that we will give this another chance. If again they do not give us the numbers that we are talking...