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Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, I thank Sen. Kibiru for his leadership and firmness in bringing this matter to an end. It is important to know that this Bill was generated by the Senate, and more particularly, by Sen. Kibiru’s Committee. This Report puts the intended legislation in compliance with...

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Mr. Speaker, Sir, I thank Sen. Kibiru for his leadership and firmness in bringing this matter to an end. It is important to know that this Bill was generated by the Senate, and more particularly, by Sen. Kibiru’s Committee. This Report puts the intended legislation in compliance with the High...

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like to get some clarification on what exactly was --- (Loud consultations)

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, I need to get clear clarification. What is the import of what Sen. Kibiru has reported to the House? First, the report he is giving us is under which Standing Order? Is it a Statement of a Chair, Personal Statement or Statement of comfort? I...

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, I asked a very specific question. I know you are consulting my colleague Sen. Kavindu Muthama but there are two things. One, Sen. Kibiru cannot claim to have made statements in the past that have come to be true. Sen. Kibiru came here with Building...

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Sen. Murkomen Sen. Wetangula, please proceed. March 30, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 5 Sen. Murkomen We will realise that even by tomorrow, the decision of the Supreme Court on Building Bridges Initiative (BBI) will have come out. We will realise that all these people who used to preach about BBI and...

Sen. Wetangula, please proceed.

Sen. Kibiru, what is your point of order?

Sen. Murkomen On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. The Senate Majority Leader is putting words in my mouth. I did not say that we forget about grants because we need them. I said that once we lose our leverage, that Bill will not--- How long has it taken...

Proceed, Sen. Sakaja.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am grateful to Sen. Kibiru for raising this matter. The Committee on Finance and Budget has stood on its ground to make sure that before we deal with the Division of Revenue Bill, we address the County Government Grants Bill. It is a very important issue....

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Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, thank you for that Communication, which is timely. We were operating outside the Standing Orders. The Standing Orders give the permissive will to the Speaker to declare a session to be held both virtually and physical, or not. That should be decided from time to...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I equally want to take the position that for Parliament to be an institution that is effective, physical sittings are very important. There was time when the Houses of Parliament - the Commons - were bombed during the Second World War. Since the House of Commons has...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Many of us including Sen. Orengo and I have been accused of trying to get quorum at the Council of Governors (CoG) in advance. March 29, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 5

Sen. Murkomen Thank you, Madam Temporary Chairperson. I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by deleting clause 2 and substituting therefor the following new clause – Amendment of section 22 of No. 24 of 2011.2. Section 22 of the Elections Act is amended by deleting subsection (1) and...

Sen. Murkomenof the Elections (Amendment) Bill, Senate Bills No. 42 of 2021 and seek leave to sit again tomorrow. February 23, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 5 Sen. Murkomen Madam Temporary Speaker, on behalf of the Chairperson, I beg to report progress that the Committee of the Whole has considered the Elections...

Senate Majority Leader, proceed.

Madam Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with Committee in the said report and ask Sen. Seneta to second.

Madam Temporary Speaker, I second. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to)

Hon. Senators, for the convenience of the House, we are going to skip Orders Nos.12, 13, 14 and 15. COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE THE KENYA MEDICAL SUPPLIES AUTHORITY (AMENDMENT) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.53 OF 2021) COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE THE STREET VENDORS (PROTECTION OF LIVELIHOOD) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.7 OF...

Sen. MurkomenThis law establishes a tribunal to deal with disputes that may arise. In Section 4, there is establishment of Landlord and Tenant Tribunal whose jurisdiction is to ensure within the territory of Kenya--- and has a lot of responsibility to give orders.On the Tribunal, first, there is an oversight...

Sen. Murkomen Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I agree with Sen. Khaniri, that this is an important Statement from Sen. Cherargei. It must make all of us part of Kenya Kwanza. We must put all our other political interests behind and rally around One Kenya Alliance and Kenya Kwanza because...

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, the Senator for Machakos County was signaling me with happiness when I said we need One Kenya Alliance. She was very happy because I believe that---

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am in serious business when I say we need One Kenya Alliance. I mean it because that is the kind of talk we need when we are in this Chamber. We must put Kenya in front and not behind. The cost of living is...

Sen. Murkomen I will put the question at the end. THE COUNTY OVERSIGHT AND ACCOUNTABILITY BILL (SENATE BILLS NO. 17 OF 2021) Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to report that the Committee of the Whole has considered the County Oversight and Accountability Bill (Senate Bills No.17 of 2021)...

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Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that The County Government (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bill No.38 of 2021) be now read a Third Time. I ask Sen. Mpaayei to second.

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee on the said report. I ask Sen. M. Kajwang’ to second.

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, I beg to move that The Elections (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bill No.42 of 2021) be now read a Third Time. I ask Sen. (Dr.) Ochillo-Ayacko to second.

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Sen. Murkomen Madam Temporary Speaker, I thank you for this opportunity. My condolences to the family, friends, relatives and friends of the late Sen. (Dr.) Machage. I had the privilege and honour to serve in the last Parliament with the late Sen. (Dr.) Machage. He was such a passionate, committed...

Sen. Murkomen Madam Temporary Speaker, you can hear the then Minority Leader saying that he rigged into our favor. His rulings were very interesting. Remember he used to sit where you sit. He was in the Speaker’s Panel and he used that opportunity to make a lot of contributions to...

Sen. Murkomen On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir,

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, I request Sen. Kavindu to understand that the people of Kenya are following this debate. The Standing Orders are very clear. If you are going to participate on Zoom platform, you must be in a place where you can be seen and be still. If...

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, I echo the words of Sen. Kajwang’ that Sen. Khaniri has distinguished himself as the master of Statement Hour. If there is a person who has used well the Statement Hour, it is him. Apart from his prowess as a man who is extremely knowledgeable...

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that The Elections (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bills No.42 of 2021) be now read a Second Time. Mr. Speaker, Sir, this is a Bill that is straightforward, but sometimes not all things are straight, just like not all common sense is...

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am speaking like a former lecturer at a university. When universities started mushrooming in this country, most of them were operating in some building, where downstairs it is a bar or restaurant and the universities were operating upstairs. That is why I was avoiding...

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, having consulted my colleagues, I would like to move the following Motion- THAT, pursuant to Standing Order No. 31 (3) (1) that the Senate extends its sitting today until the conclusion of business appearing in Order No. 20 in today’s Order Paper. I ask...

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Temporary Speaker Sir, thank you very much. I thank my colleagues for their great contributions on this very important subject. I am glad that we all now agree that a degree qualification in Kenya now would amount to unfair restrictions on the political rights of our citizens...

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Sen. Murkomen(Loud Consultations) January 26, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 17 Sen. Murkomen because we want to rush the process. History will record us in a very shameful way. It will be recorded that we took the people of Kenya for a ride. Therefore, since it was clear on your communication.Mr. Speaker,...

I now put the question---- (Loud Consultations)

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, I thought what Sen. Madzayo raised was on a procedural Motion. I thought we were still contributing to the Motion.

Sen. Murkomen Order! Senators. After consultation, we will have to finish. I will have to propose and put the question. After that, I will use Standing Order No. 1 to allow for a bit of debate on the Bill. (Question, that the Mover be now called up to reply, put...

Order! There is a bit of confusion on procedure. What is your point of clarification, Senator?

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Sen. Murkomen Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I do not know why Sen. Murkomen is very annoyed. He should just relax. If this thing is bad, then it is bad for everyone. If it is good, it is good for everyone. It is a common denominator that all of us...

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Sen. Murkomen Madam Temporary Chairperson, it is a live example. (Sen. Orengo spoke off record) I would like to tell Sen. Orengo that this Bill is not in abstract because I can see he is very agitated. This Bill is a culmination of the handshake. You know this marriage is...

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Sen. Murkomen Madam Temporary Chairperson, I am concerned about the two members. If you look at the way the rhythm and the pattern is, it is like a matter of maybe coming here and entertaining questions. The questions and the discussion is good, but why can they not side-chat and...

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Sen. Murkomen Madam Temporary Chairperson, there is no Standing Order that gives the Speaker or the Chair to determine the period of speaking. The Chair cannot determine the time. The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Nyamunga) : Hon. Senator, it is not going to be back and forth. Just make your comment.

Sen. MurkomenDemocratic Movement (ODM) is very popular? Forget the sugar-coated Azimio Coalition.That is an ODM zone. Will you tell them that out of the 700,000 voters that are supposed to vote in Kisumu County, only the 200,000 in the ODM register will vote? Those are the ones who will chose...

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Sen. Murkomen Madam Temporary Chairperson, I suspect that Sen. Farhiya is not appreciating what I am doing. I am a very senior member of this House. She came the other day and she must know that I know the procedure. You cannot call people robots. It is not acceptable. The...

Sen. MurkomenThe country is watching.

Sen. Murkomen Madam Temporary Chairperson, you are being misled because I do not have an amendment. However, I have a duty to legislate. Therefore, any amendment that is brought to the Floor of the House is duty-bound to be heard.

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Sen. Murkomen How do I make it before I listen to the other one? The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Nyamunga) : Just make that amendment.

Sen. Murkomen No, this is serious. The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Nyamunga) : We are still here. There are amendments that we have skipped. January 26, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 49 Sen. Murkomen kangaroo process and expel the members who are with the governor. If the governor runs to court and they...

Thank you, Madam Temporary Chairperson. I also wish to seek a clarification. There is due process throughout the Act even under the Fair Administration Act and the Constitution. They provide for due process. I think this amendment from Sen. Murkomen is to have another layer of protection after the judgement....

Division will be at the end. Sen. (Dr.) Mwaura, do you have further amendments? We drop that one. Clauses 12-19 (Question, that Clauses 12-19 be part of the Bill, proposed) The Temporary Chairperson (

Sen. Murkomen No, Madam Temporary Chairperson, it is not my amendment. So, clarifications about Clause 22 are for him. Madam Temporary Chairperson, I need to understand---

Sen. Murkomen Madam Temporary Chairperson, we need to understand; if we have got to a point where we want to seize instead of granting additional powers to independent clean set up constitutional offices and setting them in the hands of a single individual, who on the whims of the politics...

Sen. Murkomen Okay, Madam Temporary Chairperson. I want to conclude, but I will do so if Sen. Orengo can grant me the peace that I want. It is difficult to talk when you are being interrupted. The Chairperson (Sen. Nyamunga) : I think Sen. Murkomen should respond to that. January...

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Sen. Murkomen Madam Temporary Chairperson, although Sen. Murkomen has expended with Clause 24, I beg to move- THAT clause 24 of the Bill be amended by-

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Sen. Murkomen The Division will be at the end. (Laughter)

Sen. Murkomen Madam Temporary Chairperson, can you hear me?

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Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have skimmed through the tabled Report and I have realized that at the end of the Report, the Committee is proposing no amendments to the Bill as submitted from the National Assembly. In that regard, there were strong issues that were raised by the...

Sen. Murkomen On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am glad that Sen. Orengo and Sen. Wetangula have spoken to this matter in a bipartisan manner. This issue is bigger than our staff and the Members. It is about independence of institutions, freedoms and rights. This thing started with the Deputy President when...

Sen. Murkomen Thank you, Mr. Speaker Sir. First, I would like to join you in welcoming us here and say happy new year to you and to all of us. I wish you a happy and important 2022. We all know why it is important. Secondly, Mr. Speaker, Sir, is...

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, is it in order for Sen. Nyamunga who is a member of the Speaker’s Panel and who is charged with the responsibility of dispensing business in this House, to accuse you publicly that the business you are running from the chair is gender biased and...

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Temporary Chairperson, Sir, I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.148, I beg to move that the Committee of the Whole do report progress on its consideration of the County Hall of Fame Bill (Senate Bills No.9 of 2021) and seek leave to seat again tomorrow. (Question proposed)...

Hon. Senators we are reporting progress on the Kenya Citizenship and immigration (Amendment) Bill Senate Bills No.33 of 2021. Proceed, Mover. January 11, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 3 THE KENYA CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION (AMENDMENT) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO. 33 OF 2021)

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, for affording me the opportunity. Pursuant to Standing Order No.148, I beg to move that the Committee of the Whole do report progress on its consideration of the Kenya Citizenship and immigration (Amendment) Bill Senate Bills No.33 of 2021 and seek leave to seat...

Madam Temporary Speaker, I would like to report that the Committee of the Whole has considered The County Hall of Fame Bill (Senate Bills No.9 of 2021) and seek leave to seat again tomorrow.

Mover. Sen. Murkomen Madam Temporary Speaker, I would like to move that the House do agree with the Committee on the said report and ask Sen. Nyamunga to second.

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, I know where Sen. Sakaja was before he appeared to give Notice of Motion.

Sen. Murkomen Let me leave it for the discussion of the WhatsApp group where we are together. That is on a light note. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I thank you for giving me this opportunity to contribute to this BPS which is a very important agenda that brought us to the...

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker Sir, Sen. Wetangula was in parliament when Parliament passed what was called a Mwangale Report. When they talk about the Omamo Report, it does not mean there were no other Members---

Sen. Murkomen Sen. Kibiru, President Uhuru’s man---

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, that is exactly what I was saying. That in President Uhurus’ Government, he is proposing Kshs370 billion, but Sen. Kibiru, the right hand man of President Uhuru Kenyatta, has brought a very serious critic of this Report, saying that if we are going to go...

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, I was speaking about the Pharisees and Sadducees. I do not know whether Sen. M. Kajwang considers himself one of the Pharisees. They know themselves; they are not in this Chamber. In a manner of conversation, I have said, anyone who has promised the people...

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, Sen. M. Kajwang’ is right to suspect himself in this thing and to passionately defend those who lie to the people of Kenya that 35 per cent---

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, if this Budget Policy Statement is not going to lead us---. I thank Sen. Kibiru, Sen. Wetangula, Sen. Cheruiyot Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr and other Members of the Finance and Budget Committee who proposed Kshs495 billion. I urge that we improve it to the BBI...

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, I withdraw. I know where you are going. I should not discuss the Speaker of the National Assembly.

Sen. Murkomen Mr. Speaker, Sir, the presidential candidate of the Democratic Party (DP) party out there was trying to accuse this House, which has been a great defender of devolution. The DP presidential candidate should demonstrate elsewhere where they serve that they also believe in devolution the way we do...

Sen. Murkomen No, it is the Democratic Party. A very respectable party, which was led by the best President of the Republic of Kenya. It has degenerated nowadays to a one-man party. Devolution must be demonstrated through actions by people who sit in positions of power. December 21, 2021 SENATE...