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THE PARLIAMENT OF KENYA

THE SENATE

THE HANSARD

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THIRTEENTH PARLIAMENT

Fourth Session

Wednesday, 23rd July, 2025 – Afternoon Sitting

PARLIAMENT OF KENYA

Wednesday, 23rd July, 2025

The House met at the Senate Chamber, Parliament Buildings at 2.30 p.m.

[The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) in the Chair]

PRAYER

DETERMINATION OF QUORUM AT COMMENCEMENT OF SITTING

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)

Clerk, do we have quorum?

Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly, ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. We now have quorum. Clerk, kindly, call the first Order.

Proceed, Chairperson, Committee on Trade, Industrialization and Tourism.

PAPER LAID REPORT ON CONSIDERATION OF THE CREATIVE ECONOMY SUPPORT BILL (SENATE BILL NO.30 OF 2024)

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table of the Senate, today 23rd July, 2025-

Report of the Standing Committee on Trade, Industrialization and Tourism on its consideration of the Creative Economy Support Bill (Senate Bill No.30 of 2024) .

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)

Next Order. Proceed, Sen. Omtatah.

NOTICE OF MOTION

PROVISION OF IFMIS REPORTS FOR COUNTY GOVERNMENTS TO THE SENATE

THAT, AWARE that, Article 96 of the Constitution provides that the Senate represents the counties, and serves to protect their interests, determines the allocation of national revenue among counties, as provided in Article 217, and exercises oversight over national revenue allocated to the County Governments; FURTHER AWARE THAT, in the case of The Senate, the Council of Governors and 6 others Petition No. 24 and 27 of 2029 (consolidated) 2022 KESC No. 57(KLR), the Supreme Court affirmed that the Senate’s oversight authority extents to both nationally allocated and locally generated revenue; CONCERNED THAT, that Senators are constrained by lack of access to real time to data from the IFMIS system for the respective counties they represent, thus affecting effective oversight of County Governments; FURTHER CONCERNED THAT, in some instances data and information presented to the Senate by the Auditor-General and the Controller of Budget are received and considered late as a result of the backlog resulting into too much information not getting properly reviewed by Senators; NOTING THAT, as a result of unchecked financial information and systems, County Governments have continued to accumulate pending bills resulting from unplanned expenditures, unaccounted for and inflated cost of projects; NOW THEREFORE, the Senate resolves, that the Cabinet Secretary in charge of the National Treasury shall on a monthly basis forward to the Clerk of the Senate all IFMIS transactions and reports for each County Government for onward transmission to the respective Senator for information on accountability and transparency, in order to strengthen their constitutional oversight and promote good governance in the management of public finances.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)

That Order is deferred.

Next Order.

QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS

STATEMENTS

Statements pursuant to Standing Order No.52(1). Proceed, Sen. Veronica Maina.

POSTPARTUM DEATH OF MS. ROSE WANGARI MAINA

Sen. Veronica Maina

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Health on a matter of national concern regarding the death of Ms. Rose Wangari Maina on 10th June, 2025 at Abyan Hospital in Eastleigh, Nairobi City County.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, Ms. Wangari had been admitted at Kayole 2 Level 4 Hospital on 6th June, 2025, where she successfully delivered a healthy baby girl. However, shortly after delivery, she developed complications and was referred to Abyan Hospital in Eastleigh, Nairobi City County. She was admitted to the intensive care unit for four days and unfortunately passed away on 10th June, 2025.

In the Statement, the Committee should address the following-

  1. An account of the circumstances leading to the death of Ms. Rose Wangari Maina, including the specific complications she developed, the nature of emergency care provided and the clinical decision made during her hospitalization.
(Loud consultations)

Mr. Speaker, Sir, if you could protect me, there is so much noise in the House. I cannot hear myself.

The Speaker (Hon. Lusaka)

Order, Hon. Senators. Kindly, hear the Senator in total silence and, please, take your seats.

Sen. Mugor, take your seat.

You may proceed, Hon. Senator.

Sen. Veronica Maina

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir,

  1. Whether the medical personnel and management at both Kayole 2 Level 4 Hospital and Abyan Hospital adhered to established emergency protocols, and if there were any instances of negligence or misconduct.
  2. The general state of service delivery at Kayole 2 Level 4 Hospital with particular reference to the condition of the maternity wards and allegation of unsanitary and substandard facilities.
  3. The policy measures and interventions currently being undertaken by the Ministry of Health to reduce maternal mortality during and after childbirth and ensure that childbearing is safe, dignified, and not a cause of fear among women.
The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)

Hon. Senator, I called you to take to the Floor pursuant to Standing Order No.52. However, you have read a Statement under Standing Order No.53 (1) .

Sen. Veronica Maina

Yes. I still have a Statement under No.52 (1) . I apologise for that. I think the Clerk mixed them up.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)

Hon. Senator, just take your seat. We have got urgent business to transact before you come back to the Floor.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)

(Several Senators consulted with the Clerks-at-the Table) Sen. Veronica Maina, as they consult for one or two minutes, you can conclude your Statement.

Proceed to read your Statement.

LIFE AND LEGACY OF HON. (DR.) PHOEBE MUGA-ASIYO, MP

Sen. Veronica Maina

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.52 (1) to make a Statement on a matter of national concern and importance namely, the life, service and enduring legacy of the late Hon. (Dr.) Phoebe Muga-Asiyo, former Member of Parliament (MP) who passed away on 16th July 2025.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, Dr. Phoebe Asiyo was born in Kendu Bay, Homa Bay County. She was a trailblazer in Kenya's academic, diplomatic and political spheres. She stood tall as a pioneering champion for women's empowerment, gender equity and social justice, earning her place among Kenya's most celebrated national figures.

Dr. Asiyo began her education at Gendia Primary School and later attended Kamagambo High School in the former South Nyanza District. She pursued her teacher training at Kangaru Teachers College in Embu and went on to teach at Pumwani School. She later served as a social worker with the Nairobi Municipal Council, where her lifelong dedication to community service took root.

Mr. Speaker Sir, in 1953, before her entry into elective politics, Dr. Asiyo joined the Maendeleo ya Wanawake Organisation, later rising to become its chairperson. Despite facing colonial resistance, she redefined Maendeleo ya Wanawake Organisation's mandate to focus on women's economic empowerment, maternal health and political participation. In 1963, she made history as the first African woman to be appointed Senior Superintendent of Women's Prisons in Kenya.

Dr. Asiyo was first elected to represent Karachuonyo Constituency in 1980 and again in 1992 under the FORD-Kenya Party following the advent of multiparty democracy. During her tenure, she introduced a landmark affirmative action Motion in 1997 that addressed domestic violence, widow disinheritance, electoral malpractice and Female Genital Mutilation (FGM) . She also championed constitutional amendments to safeguard women's representation in Parliament and was a fervent advocate for girls' education, particularly in arid and semi-arid regions. Her work transcended national borders as Kenya's representative to the United Nations Development Fund for Women (UNIFEM) , where she projected Kenya's leadership in global gender advocacy.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, her influence remained deeply tied to Maendeleo ya Wanawake Organisation, where she nurtured a generation of women leaders and catalysed the formation of grassroots women's movement.

In 2001, she was appointed Commissioner of the Constitution of Kenya Review Commission (CKRC) , playing a vital role in shaping the constitutional reform process. She also served in regional peace initiatives, notably as part of the delegation to Uganda that advocated for women's inclusion in peace negotiations.

Until her passing on, Dr. Asiyo served as a Chairperson of the Caucus for Women's Leadership, formerly the Kenya Women's Political Caucus, mentoring young women and

Sen. Veronica Maina

championing their inclusion in leadership. Notably, she was the first woman to be conferred the honour of Luo Elder in recognition of her lifelong efforts to advance girls' education and women’s rights.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, Dr. Asiyo will be remembered as the original voice behind the Two- Thirds gender principle, which is now enshrined in the Constitution of Kenya. She laid the foundation for women's representation in leadership and mentored countless women, many of whom serve today in various capacities across our Republic. A teacher at heart, her influence extended from the classroom to the highest corridors of national leadership.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, Homa Bay County and the nation at large mourn the passing of this gallant daughter of Kenya. Her service to nation-building, education, women's empowerment and democratic leadership will remain etched in our national memory.

As the Chairperson of the Kenya Women Senators Association, (KEWOSA), I convey our deepest condolence to her family, friends and women leaders across Kenya and the globe.

May her soul rest in eternal peace. I thank you.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)

We will move to Orders Nos.8, 9, 10, 11 and 12, before resuming the normal flow of business as contained in today's Order Paper.

Clerk, you may proceed to call the orders.

MOTION

CONSIDERATION OF THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY AMENDMENTS TO THE START-UP BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.14 OF 2022)

THAT the National Assembly amendments to the Start-up Bill (Senate Bill No.14 of 2022) be now considered.

Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Speaker) This is a voice vote, so I will proceed to put the question. (Question put) Hon. Senators, if you need some explanation before you vote, we may give you a clarification.

(The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Speaker) Are we clear on how we are voting? I will proceed to put the question then, again.

COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR

DISPOSAL OF H.E THE PRESIDENT'S MEMORANDUM ON THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST BILL, (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.12 OF 2023)

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi); Hon. Senators, before we go to Orders No.9, 10, 11 and 12, I have a Communication to make in relation to Order No.12; the disposal of His Excellency the President's Memorandum on the Conflict of Interest Bill, National Assembly Bills No.12 of

  1. As you are aware, the Conflict of Interest Bill (National Assembly Bills No.12 of 2023) was published vide Kenya Gazette Supplement No.41 of 2023 as a Bill seeking to provide for the management and regulation of conflict of interest in the discharge of official duties. The National Assembly passed the Bill on the 6th December, 2023 and referred it to the Senate for consideration. The Bill was read a First Time in the Senate on 14th February, 2024 and subsequently passed it with amendments on 16th May, 2024 and referred back to the National Assembly. The National Assembly did not concur with the Senate amendments to the Bill and voted to reject the said amendments on 24th July, 2024. The Bill was subsequently referred to a Mediation Committee in accordance with Article 113 of the Constitution and Standing Orders of the Houses of Parliament. On 5th December, 2024, the Report of the Mediation Committee was tabled in the National Assembly and the Senate. The National Assembly approved the mediated version of the Bill on the 5th December, 2024, while the Senate approved the mediated version of the Bill on 8th April, 2025. Following the approval of the mediated version of the Bill by the Houses of Parliament, the Bill was presented to His Excellency the President for assent. Hon. Senators, on 30th April, 2025, His Excellency the President referred the Conflict of Interest Bill (National Assembly Bill No.12 of 2023) back to Parliament for reconsideration in accordance with the provisions of Article 115 of the Constitution.

On 6th May, 2025, I conveyed a Message to the Senate from the President on the Memorandum and committed the matter to the Standing Committee on Justice, Legal Affairs and Human Rights for consideration. Similar procedures in accordance with the relevant Standing Orders were being followed in the National Assembly.

Consequently, the National Assembly considered the President's reservations and passed the Bill fully, accommodating the President's reservations on Tuesday, 3rd June, 2025.

By way of a Message, I communicated this decision of the National Assembly to the assembled Senate on 5th June, 2025. On the part of the Senate, the Standing Committee on Justice, Legal Affairs and Human Rights tabled its Report on the President's Reservations on 12th June, 2025.

At the sittings of the Senate held on Wednesday, 9th and on Thursday, 10th July, 2025, the Senate, through the Committee of the Whole, considered the President's Reservations. In accordance with established procedure in a Committee of the Whole, the Chairperson of the Committee deferred the putting of the questions to a later date. Upon resumption of interrupted

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)

debate on the President's Reservations, the questions will be put, as indicated in today's Order Paper, at Order No.12.

Hon. Senators, this is not the first time that the Senate is considering the President's reservations on a Bill. On 16th December, 2015, the Senate considered the President's reservations on the Public Audit Bill, (National Assembly Bills No.38 of 2014) and the Public Procurement and Asset Disposal Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 40 of 2014). However, it is imperative that I guide the Senate on the procedure for disposal of the President's reservations at the time of voting.

In a Communication issued on 1st October, 2015, the then Speaker, Sen. Ekwee Ethuro observed that Article 115 of the Constitution requires that each House of Parliament specifically pronounces itself on the President's reservations by either accepting or rejecting the reservations. He stated, and I quote-

“There is no room for deeming of either an acceptance or a rejection. A specific resolution must be made by the Senate”.

Now, consequently, in considering the Motion on the President's reservations on the Conflict of Interest Bill, (National Assembly Bill No.12 of 2023), the Senate may-

  1. Pursuant to Article 115(2) of the Constitution, amend the Bill in light of the President's reservations or amend the Bill in a manner that fully accommodates the President's reservations. This will require the vote of a majority of the delegations in the Senate, which is 24 delegations, or;
  2. Pursuant to Article 115(4) of the Constitution, pass the Bill a second time without amendment or with amendments that do not fully accommodate the President's reservations. This will require the vote of two-thirds of the delegations in the Senate, which is 32 delegations. Now, from the foregoing, the only action that will take the agenda forward is either an acceptance or a rejection of the President's reservations by the requisite numbers. For the avoidance of doubt, the Committee of the Whole will vote on each reservation. It would appear that any other action that does not result in an outright acceptance or rejection of the President's reservations would put the Bill in a position of uncertainty to which former Speaker Ekwee Ethuro referred to as constitutional purgatory. I refer Hon. Senators to Standing Order No.170(5), which gives a window to the Speaker to direct a further vote to be taken on a question within five sitting days. Whenever a question to approve or reject the President's reservation fails to obtain the required majority and the vote results in a majority of the “Ayes” and the “Nays” have not numbered at least one third of all Senators. Standing Order No.170(6), however, states that if the Speaker does not direct a further vote under Paragraph 5, or if on such further vote the fixed majority is not obtained to either reject or approve, the Speaker shall declare that the Motion is negative. Kindly be guided. Thank you.

Yes, Senator for Kakamega.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, the House very well appreciates the importance of the business that you have referred to. Therefore---

(Loud consultations)
The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)

Order, Hon. Senators. Proceed, Sen. Boni.

Since the matter has captured immense public interest, purely for avoidance of doubt, I would like you to clarify that the Clerks-at-the-Table or your office have been able to interpret your Communication in consideration of Article 115 (6) of the Constitution, which says that if the President does not assent to a Bill or he refers it back within the period prescribed in Clause 1, or assents to it under 5 (B) , the Bill shall be taken to have been assented to on the expiry of that period.

The clarification I seek is that we avoid finding ourselves with egg on our face where some Kenyan goes to court and interprets the dates. Have the dates prescribed in Article 115 clinically been adhered to?

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)

Let the Clerks confirm through our correspondence. In the meantime, as the Clerks try to get that information, we can proceed with Order Nos.9, 10 and 11.

COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

[The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) left the Chair]

IN THE COMMITTEE

[The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Veronica Maina) in the Chair]

THE COUNTY GOVERNMENTS ADDITIONAL ALLOCATIONS (NO.2) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.8 OF 2025)

The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Veronica Maina): Hon. Senators, please resume your seats. We are proceeding to the Committee of the Whole on the County Governments Additional Allocations (No.2) Bill (Senate Bills No.8 of 2025).

Sen. Cherarkey, Sen. Madzayo, Sen. Murango and Sen. Sigei, can you resume your seats, please? We are proceeding on with the clauses and I request the Clerk to call out Clause 3 of the County Governments Additional Allocations (No.2) Bill (Senate Bills No.8 of 2025). Clause 3

Division at the end. Clause 4

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)

The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Veronica Maina): I invite the Chairperson, Standing Committee on Finance and Budget to move the amendments.

Where is the Chairperson? Can you, please, move the amendment on Clause 4? Proceed. Please, give him the microphone.

Thank you very much, Madam Chairperson. I beg move- THAT Clause 4 of the Bill be amended in subclause

(2)

by deleting the word “Bills” appearing immediately after the words “county governments’ appropriation” and substituting therefor the words “legislation for the Financial Year 2025/2026”.

Division at the end. Clause 5

The Temporary Chairperson

: I invite the Chairperson, Standing Committee on Finance and Budget, Sen. Roba, to move the amendment.

Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT Clause 5 of the Bill be amended in subclause (1) by —

  1. deleting the expression “A” appearing immediately after the words “out in Column” in paragraph (a) and substituting therefor the expression “B”; and
  2. deleting the expression “B” appearing immediately after the words “out in Column” in paragraph (b) and substituting therefor the expression “C”. (Question of the amendment proposed) Division at the end. Clause 6 The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Veronica Maina): I invite the Mover of this Bill to move the amendment. Proceed, Chairperson, Sen. Roba.

Madam Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT Clause 6 of the Bill be amended—

  1. in subclause (1) by—
  2. deleting the words “each county government” appearing immediately after the words “conditional allocations to” in the introductory clause and substituting therefor the words “beneficiary county governments”; (ii) deleting paragraph (a) and substituting therefor the following new paragraph—
  3. . conditional allocation for the settlement of doctors’ salary arrears as set out in Column B of the Second Schedule; (iii) deleting the expression “B” appearing immediately after the words “out in Column” in paragraph (b) and substituting therefor the expression “C”; (iv) deleting the expression “C” appearing immediately after the words “out in Column” in paragraph (c) and substituting therefor the expression “D”;
  4. deleting the expression “D” appearing immediately after the words “out in Column” in paragraph (d) and substituting therefor the expression “E”; and (vi) inserting the following new paragraph immediately after paragraph (d)—
  5. conditional allocations due to county rural and urban affordable housing committees pursuant to section 11(4)(c) of the Affordable Housing Act as set out in Column F of the Second Schedule.
  6. by inserting the following new subclause immediately after subclause (1)— (1A) Conditional allocations financed by proceeds from the Road Maintenance Levy Fund shall be as set out in the Third Schedule.
  7. in subclause (2) by—
  8. deleting the introductory clause and substituting therefor the following new introductory clause—
  9. Conditional allocations financed by proceeds of loans or grants from development partners to beneficiary county governments for the Financial Year 2025/26 shall be as set out in the Fourth Schedule, comprising— (ii) deleting the expression “A” appearing immediately after the words “out in Column” in paragraph (a) and substituting therefor the expression “B”; (iii) deleting the expression “B” appearing immediately after the words “out in Column” in paragraph (b) and substituting therefor the expression “C”; (iv) deleting the expression “C” appearing immediately after the words “out in Column” in paragraph (c) and substituting therefor the expression “D”;
  10. deleting the expression “D” appearing immediately after the words “out in Column” in paragraph (d) and substituting therefor the expression “E”; (vi) deleting the expression “E” appearing immediately after the words “out in Column” in paragraph (f) and substituting therefor the expression “F”; (vii) deleting the expression “F” appearing immediately after the words “out in Column” in paragraph (g) and substituting therefor the expression “G”; (viii) deleting the expression “G” appearing immediately after the words “out in Column” in paragraph (h) and substituting therefor the expression “H”; (ix) deleting the expression “H” appearing immediately after the words “out in Column” in paragraph (i) and substituting therefor the expression “I”;
  11. deleting the expression “I” appearing immediately after the words “out in Column” in paragraph (l) and substituting therefor the expression “J”; (xi) deleting the expression “J” appearing immediately after the words “out in Column” in paragraph (m) and substituting therefor the expression “L”; (xii) deleting the expression “L” appearing immediately after the words “out in Column” in paragraph (s) and substituting therefor the expression “M”; (xiii) deleting the expression “M” appearing immediately after the words “out in Column” in paragraph (v) and substituting therefor the expression “N”; (xiv) deleting the expression “N” appearing immediately after the words “out in Column” in paragraph (w) and substituting therefor the expression “O”; (xv) deleting the expression “O” appearing immediately after the words “out in Column” in paragraph (x) and substituting therefor the expression “P”; (xvi) deleting paragraph (y) and substituting therefor the following new paragraph—
  12. conditional allocations financed by proceeds from AFD (French Development Agency) for Kenya Informal Settlement Improvement Project 2 (KISIP2) as set out in Column Q of the Third Schedule; and (xvii) by deleting the expression “Q” appearing immediately after the words “out in Column” in paragraph (z) and substituting therefor the expression “R”; and
  13. in subclause (3) by deleting paragraph (b) and substituting therefor the following new paragraph—
  14. shall be exempt from section 191A of the Public Finance Management Act. (Question of the amendment proposed) Division at the end. Clauses 7- 10. (Question, that Clauses 7, 8, 9 and 10 be part of the Bill, proposed) Division at the end. First schedule (Question, that the First Schedule be part of the Bill, proposed) Division at the end. Second Schedule The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Veronica Maina): I invite the Chairperson, Standing Committee on Finance and Budget, Sen. Roba, to move the amendments. Proceed, Sen. Roba.

Thank you, Madam Temporary Chairperson. I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by deleting the Second Schedule and substituting therefor with the following new Schedule-

SECOND SCHEDULE

(s. 6(1)) Conditional Additional Allocations to County Governments from National Government's Share of Revenue for the Financial Year 2025/26 (Kenya Shillings)

FY 2024/25 FY 2025/26

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County Total Conditional Additional Allocations Settlement of Doctors’ Salary Arrears Community Health Promoters (CHPs) Programme Supplement for Construction of County Headquarters County Aggregation and Industrial Parks (CAIPs) Programme Allocations for 0.5% of the Housing Levy Fund to the County Rural and Urban Affordable Housing Committees Total Conditional Additional Allocations Column A Column B Column C Column D Column E Column F Column G Baringo 83,073,318 19,263,318 63,810,000 - 250,000,000 1,987,622 335,060,940 Bomet 95,331,693 21,261,693 74,070,000 - 1,987,622 97,319,315 Bungoma 333,254,059 39,854,059 107,400,000 - 1,987,622 149,241,682 Busia 276,081,627 23,691,627 66,390,000 - 1,987,622 92,069,249 Elgeyo Marakwet 52,885,017 15,685,017 37,200,000 - 250,000,000 1,987,622 304,872,640 Embu 279,101,231 32,801,231 60,300,000 - 1,987,622 95,088,854 Garissa 293,501,339 32,981,339 74,520,000 - 1,987,622 109,488,961 Homa Bay 301,039,251 26,419,251 88,620,000 - 1,987,622 117,026,874 Isiolo 149,128,044 12,147,883 21,630,000 60,000,000 - 1,987,622 95,765,505 Kajiado 93,565,118 43,495,118 50,070,000 - 250,000,000 1,987,622 345,552,741 Kakamega 172,029,977 44,529,977 127,500,000 - 250,000,000 1,987,622 424,017,600 Kericho 89,129,856 43,439,856 45,690,000 - 250,000,000 1,987,622 341,117,479

Conditional Additional Allocations to County Governments from National Government's Share of Revenue for the Financial Year 2025/26 (Kenya Shillings)

FY 2024/25 FY 2025/26

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County Total Conditional Additional Allocations Settlement of Doctors’ Salary Arrears Community Health Promoters (CHPs) Programme Supplement for Construction of County Headquarters County Aggregation and Industrial Parks (CAIPs) Programme Allocations for 0.5% of the Housing Levy Fund to the County Rural and Urban Affordable Housing Committees Total Conditional Additional Allocations Column A Column B Column C Column D Column E Column F Column G Kiambu 267,268,781 119,957,202 94,680,000 - 1,987,622 216,624,825 Kilifi 174,381,743 58,281,743 116,100,000 - 250,000,000 1,987,622 426,369,365 Kirinyaga 242,049,816 19,389,816 36,660,000 - 1,987,622 58,037,438 Kisii 345,101,961 72,428,277 88,200,000 - 250,000,000 1,987,622 412,615,900 Kisumu 165,339,627 75,399,627 89,940,000 - 1,987,622 167,327,249 Kitui 117,856,694 43,756,694 74,100,000 - 250,000,000 1,987,622 369,844,316 Kwale 330,913,123 28,773,123 52,140,000 - 1,987,622 82,900,745 Laikipia 65,684,974 40,454,974 25,230,000 - 250,000,000 1,987,622 317,672,596 Lamu 290,553,991 11,301,830 14,520,000 121,000,000 - 1,987,622 148,809,452 Machakos 327,896,293 58,646,293 83,250,000 - 1,987,622 143,883,916 Makueni 144,268,273 30,568,273 113,700,000 - 1,987,622 146,255,895 Mandera 38,349,159 19,809,159 18,540,000 - 250,000,000 1,987,622 290,336,781 Marsabit 75,118,763 15,028,763 60,090,000 - 1,987,622 77,106,385 Meru 341,395,785 43,915,785 111,480,000 - 1,987,622 157,383,407

Conditional Additional Allocations to County Governments from National Government's Share of Revenue for the Financial Year 2025/26 (Kenya Shillings)

FY 2024/25 FY 2025/26

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County Total Conditional Additional Allocations Settlement of Doctors’ Salary Arrears Community Health Promoters (CHPs) Programme Supplement for Construction of County Headquarters County Aggregation and Industrial Parks (CAIPs) Programme Allocations for 0.5% of the Housing Levy Fund to the County Rural and Urban Affordable Housing Committees Total Conditional Additional Allocations Column A Column B Column C Column D Column E Column F Column G Migori 302,067,815 27,687,815 88,380,000 - 1,987,622 118,055,437 Mombasa 233,213,493 108,971,914 71,610,000 - 1,987,622 182,569,536 Murang’a 155,675,190 56,993,611 46,050,000 - 1,987,622 105,031,234 Nairobi 336,278,649 112,268,649 224,010,000 - 1,987,622 338,266,271 Nakuru 242,425,840 90,404,261 99,390,000 - 1,987,622 191,781,883 Nandi 176,056,360 26,764,781 96,660,000 - 1,987,622 125,412,403 Narok 71,296,514 21,496,514 49,800,000 - 250,000,000 1,987,622 323,284,136 Nyamira 116,981,290 19,979,711 44,370,000 - 1,987,622 66,337,334 Nyandarua 57,653,981 16,043,981 41,610,000 121,000,000 250,000,000 1,987,622 430,641,603 Nyeri 129,422,326 55,172,326 74,250,000 - 250,000,000 1,987,622 381,409,948 Samburu 59,219,798 13,079,798 46,140,000 - 1,987,622 61,207,421 Siaya 139,165,399 22,723,820 63,810,000 - 1,987,622 88,521,442 Taita Taveta 73,661,911 32,591,911 41,070,000 - 250,000,000 1,987,622 325,649,534 Tana River 130,917,307 6,982,057 28,890,000 121,000,000 250,000,000 1,987,622 408,859,679

Conditional Additional Allocations to County Governments from National Government's Share of Revenue for the Financial Year 2025/26 (Kenya Shillings)

FY 2024/25 FY 2025/26

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County Total Conditional Additional Allocations Settlement of Doctors’ Salary Arrears Community Health Promoters (CHPs) Programme Supplement for Construction of County Headquarters County Aggregation and Industrial Parks (CAIPs) Programme Allocations for 0.5% of the Housing Levy Fund to the County Rural and Urban Affordable Housing Committees Total Conditional Additional Allocations Column A Column B Column C Column D Column E Column F Column G Tharaka Nithi 110,528,540 24,597,481 37,950,000 31,000,000 250,000,000 1,987,622 345,535,103 Trans Nzoia 166,458,256 46,626,677 67,200,000 - 1,987,622 115,814,299 Turkana 99,236,518 24,986,518 74,250,000 - 1,987,622 101,224,140 Uasin Gishu 257,580,471 9,600,471 61,980,000 - 1,987,622 73,568,093 Vihiga 58,424,112 15,044,112 43,380,000 - 250,000,000 1,987,622 310,411,734 Wajir 265,153,485 19,869,801 60,810,000 - 250,000,000 1,987,622 332,667,423 West Pokot 91,423,594 13,933,594 77,490,000 - 1,987,622 93,411,216 Total 8,417,140,362 1,759,101,729 3,234,930,000 454,000,000 4,500,000,000 93,418,251 10,041,449,980

(Question of the amendment proposed) Division at the end. Third Schedule

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. I move- THAT the Bill be amended by renumbering the Third Schedule as the Fourth Schedule. The Temporary Chairperson

: Sen. Roba, can you approach the Table?

Second Schedule

The Temporary Chairperson

: I invite the Chairperson, Standing Committee on Finance and Budget, Sen. Roba, to move the amendments.

Thank you very much, Madam Chairperson. I move- THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting the Second Schedule and substituting therefor the following new Schedule—

SECOND SCHEDULE

(s. 6(1)) Conditional Additional Allocations to County Governments from National Government's Share of Revenue for the Financial Year 2025/26 (Kenya Shillings)

FY 2024/25 FY 2025/26

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County Total Conditional Additional Allocations Settlement of Doctors’ Salary Arrears Community Health Promoters (CHPs) Programme Supplement for Construction of County Headquarters County Aggregation and Industrial Parks (CAIPs) Programme Allocations for 0.5% of the Housing Levy Fund to the County Rural and Urban Affordable Housing Committees Total Conditional Additional Allocations Column A Column B Column C Column D Column E Column F Column G Baringo 83,073,318 19,263,318 63,810,000 - 250,000,000 1,987,622 335,060,940 Bomet 95,331,693 21,261,693 74,070,000 - 1,987,622 97,319,315 Bungoma 333,254,059 39,854,059 107,400,000 - 1,987,622 149,241,682 Busia 276,081,627 23,691,627 66,390,000 - 1,987,622 92,069,249 Elgeyo Marakwet 52,885,017 15,685,017 37,200,000 - 250,000,000 1,987,622 304,872,640 Embu 279,101,231 32,801,231 60,300,000 - 1,987,622 95,088,854 Garissa 293,501,339 32,981,339 74,520,000 - 1,987,622 109,488,961 Homa Bay 301,039,251 26,419,251 88,620,000 - 1,987,622 117,026,874 Isiolo 149,128,044 12,147,883 21,630,000 60,000,000 - 1,987,622 95,765,505 Kajiado 93,565,118 43,495,118 50,070,000 - 250,000,000 1,987,622 345,552,741 Kakamega 172,029,977 44,529,977 127,500,000 - 250,000,000 1,987,622 424,017,600

Conditional Additional Allocations to County Governments from National Government's Share of Revenue for the Financial Year 2025/26 (Kenya Shillings)

FY 2024/25 FY 2025/26

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County Total Conditional Additional Allocations Settlement of Doctors’ Salary Arrears Community Health Promoters (CHPs) Programme Supplement for Construction of County Headquarters County Aggregation and Industrial Parks (CAIPs) Programme Allocations for 0.5% of the Housing Levy Fund to the County Rural and Urban Affordable Housing Committees Total Conditional Additional Allocations Column A Column B Column C Column D Column E Column F Column G Kericho 89,129,856 43,439,856 45,690,000 - 250,000,000 1,987,622 341,117,479 Kiambu 267,268,781 119,957,202 94,680,000 - 1,987,622 216,624,825 Kilifi 174,381,743 58,281,743 116,100,000 - 250,000,000 1,987,622 426,369,365 Kirinyaga 242,049,816 19,389,816 36,660,000 - 1,987,622 58,037,438 Kisii 345,101,961 72,428,277 88,200,000 - 250,000,000 1,987,622 412,615,900 Kisumu 165,339,627 75,399,627 89,940,000 - 1,987,622 167,327,249 Kitui 117,856,694 43,756,694 74,100,000 - 250,000,000 1,987,622 369,844,316 Kwale 330,913,123 28,773,123 52,140,000 - 1,987,622 82,900,745 Laikipia 65,684,974 40,454,974 25,230,000 - 250,000,000 1,987,622 317,672,596 Lamu 290,553,991 11,301,830 14,520,000 121,000,000 - 1,987,622 148,809,452 Machakos 327,896,293 58,646,293 83,250,000 - 1,987,622 143,883,916 Makueni 144,268,273 30,568,273 113,700,000 - 1,987,622 146,255,895 Mandera 38,349,159 19,809,159 18,540,000 - 250,000,000 1,987,622 290,336,781 Marsabit 75,118,763 15,028,763 60,090,000 - 1,987,622 77,106,385

Conditional Additional Allocations to County Governments from National Government's Share of Revenue for the Financial Year 2025/26 (Kenya Shillings)

FY 2024/25 FY 2025/26

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County Total Conditional Additional Allocations Settlement of Doctors’ Salary Arrears Community Health Promoters (CHPs) Programme Supplement for Construction of County Headquarters County Aggregation and Industrial Parks (CAIPs) Programme Allocations for 0.5% of the Housing Levy Fund to the County Rural and Urban Affordable Housing Committees Total Conditional Additional Allocations Column A Column B Column C Column D Column E Column F Column G Meru 341,395,785 43,915,785 111,480,000 - 1,987,622 157,383,407 Migori 302,067,815 27,687,815 88,380,000 - 1,987,622 118,055,437 Mombasa 233,213,493 108,971,914 71,610,000 - 1,987,622 182,569,536 Murang’a 155,675,190 56,993,611 46,050,000 - 1,987,622 105,031,234 Nairobi 336,278,649 112,268,649 224,010,000 - 1,987,622 338,266,271 Nakuru 242,425,840 90,404,261 99,390,000 - 1,987,622 191,781,883 Nandi 176,056,360 26,764,781 96,660,000 - 1,987,622 125,412,403 Narok 71,296,514 21,496,514 49,800,000 - 250,000,000 1,987,622 323,284,136 Nyamira 116,981,290 19,979,711 44,370,000 - 1,987,622 66,337,334 Nyandarua 57,653,981 16,043,981 41,610,000 121,000,000 250,000,000 1,987,622 430,641,603 Nyeri 129,422,326 55,172,326 74,250,000 - 250,000,000 1,987,622 381,409,948 Samburu 59,219,798 13,079,798 46,140,000 - 1,987,622 61,207,421 Siaya 139,165,399 22,723,820 63,810,000 - 1,987,622 88,521,442 Taita Taveta 73,661,911 32,591,911 41,070,000 - 250,000,000 1,987,622 325,649,534

Conditional Additional Allocations to County Governments from National Government's Share of Revenue for the Financial Year 2025/26 (Kenya Shillings)

FY 2024/25 FY 2025/26

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County Total Conditional Additional Allocations Settlement of Doctors’ Salary Arrears Community Health Promoters (CHPs) Programme Supplement for Construction of County Headquarters County Aggregation and Industrial Parks (CAIPs) Programme Allocations for 0.5% of the Housing Levy Fund to the County Rural and Urban Affordable Housing Committees Total Conditional Additional Allocations Column A Column B Column C Column D Column E Column F Column G Tana River 130,917,307 6,982,057 28,890,000 121,000,000 250,000,000 1,987,622 408,859,679 Tharaka Nithi 110,528,540 24,597,481 37,950,000 31,000,000 250,000,000 1,987,622 345,535,103 Trans Nzoia 166,458,256 46,626,677 67,200,000 - 1,987,622 115,814,299 Turkana 99,236,518 24,986,518 74,250,000 - 1,987,622 101,224,140 Uasin Gishu 257,580,471 9,600,471 61,980,000 - 1,987,622 73,568,093 Vihiga 58,424,112 15,044,112 43,380,000 - 250,000,000 1,987,622 310,411,734 Wajir 265,153,485 19,869,801 60,810,000 - 250,000,000 1,987,622 332,667,423 West Pokot 91,423,594 13,933,594 77,490,000 - 1,987,622 93,411,216 Total 8,417,140,362 1,759,101,729 3,234,930,000 454,000,000 4,500,000,000 93,418,251 10,041,449,980

(Question of the amendment proposed) Division at the end. Third schedule

The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Veronica Maina): I invite the Chairperson, Standing Committee on Finance and Budget, Sen. Roba, to move the amendment.

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. I move- THAT the Bill be amended by renumbering the Third Schedule as the Fourth Schedule.

(Loud consultations)

The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Veronica Maina): Can the Hon. Senator be heard in silence, Hon. Members? Sen. Seki, the Deputy Speaker, Sen. Cherarkey and Sen. Gataya, please resume your seats. Can the Senator be heard in silence or consultations be done in low tones, please?

Proceed, Sen. Roba.

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by renumbering the Third Schedule as the Fourth Schedule. I move that the Bill be amended by inserting the New Schedule immediately after the Second Schedule.

Division at the end. New Schedule

The Temporary Chairperson

: Sen. Roba, please proceed.

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new Schedule immediately after the Second Schedule-

THIRD SCHEDULE (s. 6(1A)

Conditional Additional Allocations to County Governments from Road Maintenance Fuel Levy Fund for FY 2025/26(Kenya Shillings)

SN County Road Maintenance Fuel Levy (RMFL) Allocation for FY 2024/25 Road Maintenance Fuel Levy (RMFL) Allocation for FY 2025/26 Total Allocation Per County Column A Column B Column C=A+B

Baringo

205,719,787.74 256,422,556 462,142,343 Bomet

163,685,210.91 204,027,919 367,713,129 Bungoma

184,554,999.28 230,041,383 414,596,383 Busia

129,803,891.11 161,796,033 291,599,924 Elgeyo/Marakwet

150,644,147.55 187,772,687 338,416,834 Embu

211,127,369.04 263,162,917 474,290,287 Garissa

188,410,092.89 234,846,623 423,256,716 Homa Bay

177,974,495.99 221,839,015 399,813,511 Isiolo

190,644,440.69 237,631,660 428,276,101 Kajiado

307,376,318.55 383,133,883 690,510,202 Kakamega

235,244,397.88 293,223,955 528,468,352 Kericho

169,758,085.33 211,597,545 381,355,630 Kiambu

335,429,529.62 418,101,234 753,530,764 Kilifi

242,979,152.63 302,865,057 545,844,210 Kirinyaga

194,894,333.06 242,929,003 437,823,336 Kisii

179,407,700.40 223,625,454 403,033,155 Kisumu

195,718,947.25 243,956,856 439,675,803 Kitui

445,098,849.89 554,800,225 999,899,075 Kwale

206,900,399.08 257,894,147 464,794,546 Laikipia

235,196,041.93 293,163,681 528,359,722 Lamu

134,869,251.86 168,109,828 302,979,080 Machakos

314,847,145.85 392,446,009 707,293,155 Makueni

415,079,544.48 517,382,206 932,461,750 Mandera

192,647,254.89 240,128,098 432,775,353 Marsabit

237,670,000.38 296,247,384 533,917,384 Meru

284,617,467.66 354,765,768 639,383,235 Migori

158,722,954.60 197,842,639 356,565,593 Mombasa

130,442,751.60 162,592,350 293,035,102

Murang'a

270,941,894.18 337,719,641 608,661,535 Nairobi

351,270,031.50 437,845,869 789,115,900 Nakuru

527,595,810.89 657,629,816 1,185,225,627 Nandi

187,283,793.82 233,442,731 420,726,525 Narok

275,190,523.69 343,015,410 618,205,934 Nyamira

114,508,787.31 142,731,218 257,240,005 Nyandarua

222,822,887.93 277,740,975 500,563,863 Nyeri

281,534,361.32 350,922,783 632,457,144 Samburu

168,450,780.04 209,968,035 378,418,815 Siaya

160,843,154.82 200,485,395 361,328,549 Taita Taveta

223,111,858.65 278,101,167 501,213,025 Tana River

192,087,922.00 239,430,909 431,518,831 Tharaka Nithi

161,810,686.87 201,691,390 363,502,076 Trans Nzoia

149,496,401.78 186,342,062 335,838,464 Turkana

251,956,760.03 314,055,332 566,012,092 Uasin Gishu

245,361,739.87 305,834,869 551,196,609 Vihiga

104,335,371.63 130,050,409 234,385,781 Wajir

251,017,318.26 312,884,351 563,901,669 West Pokot

163,127,206.27 203,332,385 366,459,591

Total 10,522,211,853 13,115,570,862 23,637,782,715

Division at the end. (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted the Temporary Chairperson) The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Veronica Maina): I invite the Mover to move for the reading of the New Schedule. New Schedule

Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by deleting the Second Schedule and substituting therefor the following new Schedule, and that the new Schedule be read a second time—

THIRD SCHEDULE (s. 6(1A)

Conditional Additional Allocations to County Governments from Road Maintenance Fuel Levy Fund for FY 2025/26(Kenya Shillings)

SN County Road Maintenance Fuel Levy (RMFL) Allocation for FY 2024/25 Road Maintenance Fuel Levy (RMFL) Allocation for FY 2025/26 Total Allocation Per County Column A Column B Column C=A+B

Baringo

205,719,787.74 256,422,556 462,142,343 Bomet

163,685,210.91 204,027,919 367,713,129 Bungoma

184,554,999.28 230,041,383 414,596,383 Busia

129,803,891.11 161,796,033 291,599,924 Elgeyo/Marakwet

150,644,147.55 187,772,687 338,416,834 Embu

211,127,369.04 263,162,917 474,290,287 Garissa

188,410,092.89 234,846,623 423,256,716 Homa Bay

177,974,495.99 221,839,015 399,813,511 Isiolo

190,644,440.69 237,631,660 428,276,101 Kajiado

307,376,318.55 383,133,883 690,510,202 Kakamega

235,244,397.88 293,223,955 528,468,352 Kericho

169,758,085.33 211,597,545 381,355,630 Kiambu

335,429,529.62 418,101,234 753,530,764 Kilifi

242,979,152.63 302,865,057 545,844,210 Kirinyaga

194,894,333.06 242,929,003 437,823,336 Kisii

179,407,700.40 223,625,454 403,033,155 Kisumu

195,718,947.25 243,956,856 439,675,803 Kitui

445,098,849.89 554,800,225 999,899,075 Kwale

206,900,399.08 257,894,147 464,794,546 Laikipia

235,196,041.93 293,163,681 528,359,722 Lamu

134,869,251.86 168,109,828 302,979,080 Machakos

314,847,145.85 392,446,009 707,293,155 Makueni

415,079,544.48 517,382,206 932,461,750 Mandera

192,647,254.89 240,128,098 432,775,353 Marsabit

237,670,000.38 296,247,384 533,917,384 Meru

284,617,467.66 354,765,768 639,383,235 Migori

158,722,954.60 197,842,639 356,565,593 Mombasa

130,442,751.60 162,592,350 293,035,102 Murang'a

270,941,894.18 337,719,641 608,661,535

Nairobi

351,270,031.50 437,845,869 789,115,900 Nakuru

527,595,810.89 657,629,816 1,185,225,627 Nandi

187,283,793.82 233,442,731 420,726,525 Narok

275,190,523.69 343,015,410 618,205,934 Nyamira

114,508,787.31 142,731,218 257,240,005 Nyandarua

222,822,887.93 277,740,975 500,563,863 Nyeri

281,534,361.32 350,922,783 632,457,144 Samburu

168,450,780.04 209,968,035 378,418,815 Siaya

160,843,154.82 200,485,395 361,328,549 Taita Taveta

223,111,858.65 278,101,167 501,213,025 Tana River

192,087,922.00 239,430,909 431,518,831 Tharaka Nithi

161,810,686.87 201,691,390 363,502,076 Trans Nzoia

149,496,401.78 186,342,062 335,838,464 Turkana

251,956,760.03 314,055,332 566,012,092 Uasin Gishu

245,361,739.87 305,834,869 551,196,609 Vihiga

104,335,371.63 130,050,409 234,385,781 Wajir

251,017,318.26 312,884,351 563,901,669 West Pokot

163,127,206.27 203,332,385 366,459,591

Total 10,522,211,853 13,115,570,862 23,637,782,715

Division will be at the end. Clause 2

The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Veronica Maina): I invite the Mover to move this amendment.

Sen. Roba, please proceed.

Thank you, Madam Temporary Chairperson. I beg to move- THAT Clause 2 of the Bill be amended by deleting the definition of the word “authorized person”.

Division will be at the end. The Title and Clause 1

(Question, that the Title and Clause 1 be part of the Bill, proposed) Division will be at the end. That is the end of the Committee of the Whole in respect of the County Governments Additional Allocations (No.2) Bill (Senate Bills No.8 of 2025).

Next Order.

COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

IN THE COMMITTEE

[The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Veronica Maina) in the Chair)

THE SOCIAL PROTECTION BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.12 0F 2025)

The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Veronica Maina): Hon. Senators we are proceeding to the next Committee of the Whole in respect of the Social Protection Bill (National Assembly Bills No. 12 of 2025).

Sen. Roba and Sen. Eddy, we are proceeding to the clauses. Hon. Senators, please resume your seats, so that we can proceed with the Committee of the Whole. Sen. Karungo Thang’wa, you are far from your seat. Clauses 3-17

(Question, that Clauses 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 and 17 be part of the Bill proposed) Division will be at the end. Clauses 18-33

(Question, that Clauses 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, and 33 be part of the Bill, proposed)

Division will be at the end. Clauses 34-48

(Question, that Clauses 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, and 48 be part of the Bill, proposed) Division will be at the end. Clauses 49-56

(Question, that Clauses 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56 be part of the Bill, proposed) Division will be at the end. The Schedule

Division will be at the end. Clause 2

Division will be at the end. The Title and Clause 1

(Question, that the Title and Clause 1 be part of the Bill, proposed) Division will be at the end. That brings us to the end of the clauses that we were canvassing under the Social Protection Bill (National Assembly Bills No.12 of 2025).

(The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted the Temporary Chairperson) Hon. Senators, Sen. (Dr.) Boni Khalwale had risen on a point of order to clarify an issue of the timelines within which the Bill on the Conflict of Interest Bill (National Assembly Bills No.12 of 2023) was managed. I would like to clarify that it was presented to the President on 17th April, 2025 and returned on 28th April, 2025, which is within the stipulated constitutional timelines.

So, having clarified that, we proceed on to the next item. We are now going to divisions.

Serjeant-at-Arms, please, ring the Quorum Bell for three minutes.

Serjeant-at-Arms, you can close the doors and draw the bars.

The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Veronica Maina): Hon. Members, we are going to divisions and we will begin with the Social Protection Bill (National Assembly Bills No.12 of 2025).

DIVISION ELECTRONIC VOTING THE SOCIAL PROTECTION BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.12 OF 2025)

(Question, that Clause 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24,25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, the Schedule, Clause 2, the Tile and Clause 1be part of the Bill put and the Senate proceeded to vote by county Delegation) The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Veronica Maina): Hon. Members, please, log out.

Serjeant-at-Arms please pick the all the cards that are not attended. Members. you can now log in a few minutes.

Members, please log back in and let us proceed to vote. Just a minute, the system is being sorted out.

Hon, Members, please log back in and proceed to vote. We are voting on the Social Protection Bill (National Assembly Bills No.12 of 2025).

Hon. Senators, just hold on a bit, I have some Message from the Serjeant-at-Arms coming from the Speaker. So, please, open the doors and draw the Bars. Let the Serjeant- at-Arms inside. Just open the door, so that we receive the Speaker’s Message.

The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Veronica Maina): Sen. Wambua and Senate Majority Leader, resume your seats.

We will proceed to vote. Let us display the Division to proceed. Hon. Members, please log back in and vote. This is the Social Protection Bill (National Assembly Bills No.12 of 2025).

Hon. Senators, we will proceed to The County Governments Additional Allocations (No.2) (Senate Bills No.8 of 2025). We will finish with it and proceed to The Conflict of Interest Bill.

So, yes, tell us in a few minutes for the third division. Hon. Senators, please log out and log back in. Are you ready? On the first division, I will put the question.

(Question, that the New Schedule be now read a Second Time, put) You may proceed to vote.

Sen. Hezena, you are distracting a Member. Please, go back to your seat. Senators, please vote.

Let us proceed to the next division; clauses with amendments. I put the question that Clause 4, 5, 6, the Second Schedule, the Third Schedule, and Clause 2 be amended as proposed. Prepare yourselves to vote. We have made it faster on the system, so you have fewer seconds to vote. Let us start. You have a very short time to vote. You have 30 seconds to vote.

Sen. Chimera and Sen. Wambua, stop distracting Members. One Senator has not voted. Sen. Sigei, you need assistance as a voter. Come over to the Clerks-at-the- Table. You need to approach the Table.

We are proceeding to the third division on all clauses. I put the question that Clauses 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, the First Schedule, the Second Schedule (as amended), the Third Schedule (as amended), Clause 2 (as amended), the Title and Clause 1 be part of the Bill.

Please, proceed to vote.

Sen. Chute, resume your seat and proceed to vote. Hon. Senators, please vote.

Majority Leader, Minority Leader, please give us the tellers for the next division. Hon. Senators, on The Conflict of Interest Bill, we will use a roll call vote. There are nine questions you will vote on.

Hon. Senators, if you get a little bit more settled, I will be able to give you the directions on how we are proceeding on with these votes. We now have a teller for the ‘Ayes’ and a teller for the ‘Nays’. Sen. Chimera is for the ‘Ayes and Sen. Hezena is for the ‘Nays’.

Sen. Chute and Sen. Boni, if I give the instructions and then you do not get it and start stopping the process in the middle, it is will not be tidy.

Majority Leader, you are supposed to resume your seat.

(Loud consultations)

The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Veronica Maina): There is consensus being built. Let them build it for one minute, then we can proceed. He is an interested party. He is a voter. I think both the Majority and Minority leaders have agreed on the way forward.

Hon. Senators, we have two sets of amendments. The first set of amendments contains nine questions. Question one to nine is the first set of amendments. Please listen keenly. In this first set of amendments is where the report of the Standing Committee on Justice, Legal Affairs and Human Rights has made recommendations to reject.

If the Senators are convinced with the recommendations contained in the report of the Committee to reject the President's recommendations on clauses 2, 5, 6, 8, 12, 16, 17, 18 and 20, the threshold pursuant to Article 115(4)(b) of the Constitution is two-thirds of the county delegations.

I want to now put the nine questions, which you will have a chance when you are called out by roll call to vote, reject or approve. So, you choose what to vote. We have the Ayes and the Noes. I am proceeding and it is good for you be keen on this one. Sen. Okiya Omtatah, you are bordering on going out of order now. Please, resume your seat.

I now put the Question, that the President’s recommendations on Clauses 2, 5, 6, 8, 12, 16, 17, 18 and 20 be approved. That is the first set of the nine amendments and you will be voting on those nine in the first set. You will now be called by way of roll call by the Clerk.

Clerk, you can proceed.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Veronica Maina)

Hon. Senators, we can now resume our seats. I will clarify the questions that are being voted on. Sen. Boni Khalwale, Sen. Chimera, Sen. Murango, please, resume your seats. Sen. Eddy, go and sit. Sen. Chimera, guide the others to go and sit. Sen. Sigei, please sit. Sen. Chute, I do not know why you have been active in the whole House disrupting it.

Hon. Senators, I will read out the question that you are voting on and the question is as simple as I am reading it.

We will vote for the first nine using a voice vote. I will put the question. If you answer “Ayes”, then you are approving to the President’s recommendation on Clause 2. It is not the Committee’s report. We have bundled them in a set of nine questions to ease the voting.

The Clerk is going to call out the names using the alphabetical order and you will respond. If you agree with all the nine, you can simply say “yes” to all the nine questions. We have a teller for the “Ayes” and a teller for the “Nays.”

Now, I will give the Clerk the opportunity to call out the Members. Sen. Hezena, you are not in your position as a Teller for Noes. Please, take your position.

The Clerk will proceed to call out the names. Please, do not waste the short time that we have to do this exercise. When you are called out, do not delay. Please, concentrate.

The Temporary Chairperson

: Sen. Maanzo, are you voting “No” to all the nine?

Yes, I vote no to all the nine.

The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Veronica Maina): Okay.

Sen. Eddy, are you voting “Yes” for all the questions? You need to clarify whether it is for all the questions.

Madam Temporary Speaker, I tied the rope completely on my neck and said “Yes” to all the nine.

The Temporary Chairperson

: We will proceed to the next set of questions. They are three questions. We have Question 10, and I will put the question in order for us to move fast.

These are three questions; Question 10 11, and 12 respectively, on clauses 30, 31 and 35. We will use voice vote. We have the Tellers in place and we will proceed with the Roll Call.

Kindly note that before we proceed to the voice vote, we will ask the Tellers to reconcile what they have then we will proceed after the reconciliation of the votes cast for the first nine questions.

The Temporary Chairperson

: We will now proceed to the next set of questions.

(Question put)

Sen. Madzayo, resume your seat. Sen. Methu and Sen. Thang’wa, we are proceeding to vote on the set of three questions. For purposes of clarity, I will repeat the questions. We are proceeding on to vote and I will request the Clerk to take up the Roll Call.

The Temporary Chairperson

: Sen. Cherarkey, can you resume your seat? Do not interfere with the Teller. That is like the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission

(IEBC)

.

Call again for the Members who were not in when first called. We are going to tally the votes and the results announced in a little while. I have noted with very serious concern that two Members voted between half standing and sitting. You should maintain the dignity of the House and the Standing Orders must be complied with. It shows the seriousness with which you take your work when you do the right thing. Be upstanding only when addressing the House.

Sen. Maanzo had taken a short health break. You can call him out to vote.

COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE THE COUNTY GOVERNMENTS ADDITIONAL ALLOCATIONS (NO.2) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.8 OF 2025) DIVISION ELECTRONIC VOTING

(Question, that the New Schedule be now read a Second Time, put and the Senate proceeded to vote by County Delegations) AYES: Sen. Abass, Wajir County; Sen. Ali Roba, Mandera County; Sen. Boy, Kwale County; Sen. Cherarkey, Nandi County; Sen. Cheruiyot, Kericho County; Sen. Chute, Marsabit County; Sen. Faki, Mombasa County; Sen. Gataya Mo Fire, Tharaka Nithi County; Sen. Githuku, Lamu County; Sen. Joe Nyutu, Murang’a County; Sen. Kajwang Moses, Homa Bay County; Sen. Kathuri, Meru County; Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, Kakamega County; Sen. Kinyua, Laikipia County; Sen. Kisang, Elgeyo Marakwet; Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe Ltumbesi, Samburu County; Sen. Lomenen, Turkana County; Sen. Maanzo, Makueni County; Sen. Madzayo, Kilifi County; Sen. Methu, Nyandarua County; Sen. Munyi Mundigi, Embu County; Sen. ( Dr.) Murango, Kirinyaga County; Sen. Murgor, West Pokot County; Sen. Mwaruma, Taita-Taveta County; Sen. (Dr.) Oburu Oginga, Siaya County; Sen. Oketch Eddy; Migori County; Sen. Okiya Omtatah, Busia County; Sen. Osotsi, Vihiga County; Sen. Seki, Kajiado County; Sen. Thang’wa, Kiambu County; Sen. Wafula, Bungoma County; Wakili Sigei, Bomet County; and, Sen. Wambua, Kitui County.

NOES: Nil

The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Veronica Maina): Hon. Senators, the result of the Division are as follows-

AYES: 33 NOES: Nil

ABSTENSIONS: Nil

The “Ayes” have it.

DIVISION ELECTRONIC VOTING

(Question, that the Clauses 3, 4(as amended), 5 (as amended), 6 (as amended), 7, 8, 9, 10, the First Schedule, the Second Schedule (as amended), the Third Schedule (as amended), Clause 2 (as amended), the Title and Clause 1 be part of the Bill, put and the Senate proceeded to vote by County Delegations) AYES: Sen. Abass, Wajir County; Sen. Ali Roba, Mandera County; Sen. Boy, Kwale County; Sen. Cherarkey, Nandi County; Sen. Cheruiyot, Kericho County; Sen. Chute, Marsabit County; Sen. Faki, Mombasa County; Sen. Gataya Mo Fire, Tharaka Nithi County; Sen. Githuku, Lamu County; Sen. Joe Nyutu, Murang’a County; Sen. Kajwang Moses, Homa Bay County; Sen. Kathuri, Meru County; Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, Kakamega County; Sen. Kinyua, Laikipia County; Sen. Kisang, Elgeyo Marakwet; Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe Ltumbesi, Samburu County; Sen. Lomenen, Turkana County; Sen. Maanzo, Makueni County; Sen. Madzayo, Kilifi County; Sen. Methu, Nyandarua County; Sen. Munyi Mundigi, Embu County; Sen. ( Dr.) Murango, Kirinyaga County; Sen. Murgor, West Pokot County; Sen. Mwaruma, Taita-Taveta County; Sen. (Dr.) Oburu Oginga, Siaya County; Sen. Oketch Eddy; Migori County; Sen. Okiya Omtatah, Busia County; Sen. Osotsi, Vihiga County; Sen. Seki, Kajiado County; Sen. Thang’wa, Kiambu County; Sen. Wafula, Bungoma County; Wakili Sigei, Bomet County; and, Sen. Wambua, Kitui County.

NOES: Nil

The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Veronica Maina): Hon. Senators, the result of the Division are as follows-

AYES: 33 NOES: Nil ABSTENSIONS: Nil

The “Ayes” have it.

DIVISION ELECTRONIC VOTING

(Question that Clause 4, 5, 6, the Second Schedule, the Third Schedule and Clause 2 be amended as proposed, put and the Senate proceeded to vote by County Delegations)

AYES: Sen. Abass, Wajir County; Sen. Ali Roba, Mandera County; Sen. Boy, Kwale County; Sen. Cherarkey, Nandi County; Sen. Cheruiyot, Kericho County; Sen. Chute, Marsabit County; Sen. Faki, Mombasa County; Sen. Gataya Mo Fire, Tharaka Nithi County; Sen. Githuku, Lamu County; Sen. Joe Nyutu, Murang’a County; Sen. Kajwang Moses, Homa Bay County; Sen. Kathuri, Meru County; Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, Kakamega County; Sen. Kinyua, Laikipia County; Sen. Kisang, Elgeyo Marakwet; Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe Ltumbesi, Samburu County; Sen. Lomenen, Turkana County; Sen. Maanzo, Makueni County; Sen. Madzayo, Kilifi County; Sen. Methu, Nyandarua County; Sen. Munyi Mundigi, Embu County; Sen. ( Dr.) Murango, Kirinyaga County; Sen. Murgor, West Pokot County; Sen. Mwaruma, Taita-Taveta County; Sen. (Dr.) Oburu Oginga, Siaya County; Sen. Oketch Eddy; Migori County; Sen. Okiya Omtatah, Busia County; Sen. Osotsi, Vihiga County; Sen. Seki, Kajiado County; Sen. Thang’wa, Kiambu County; Sen. Wafula, Bungoma County; Wakili Sigei, Bomet County; and, Sen. Wambua, Kitui County.

NOES: Nil

The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Veronica Maina): Hon. Senators, the result of the Division are as follows-

AYES: 33 NOES: Nil ABSTENSIONS: Nil

The “Ayes” have it.

DIVISION ELECTRONIC VOTING

(Question that Clauses 3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16, 17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34, 35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54, 55,56, the Schedule, Clause 2, the Title and Clause 1 be part of the Bill, put and the Senate proceeded to vote by County Delegations) AYES: Sen. Abass, Wajir County; Sen. Ali Roba, Mandera County; Sen. Boy, Kwale County; Sen. Cherarkey, Nandi County; Sen. Cheruiyot, Kericho County; Sen. Chute, Marsabit County; Sen. Faki, Mombasa County; Sen. Gataya Mo Fire, Tharaka Nithi County; Sen. Githuku, Lamu County; Sen. Joe Nyutu, Murang’a County; Sen. Kajwang Moses, Homa Bay County; Sen. Kathuri, Meru County; Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, Kakamega County; Sen. Kinyua, Laikipia County; Sen. Kisang, Elgeyo Marakwet; Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe Ltumbesi, Samburu County; Sen. Lomenen, Turkana County; Sen. Maanzo, Makueni County; Sen. Madzayo, Kilifi County; Sen. Methu, Nyandarua County; Sen. Munyi Mundigi, Embu County; Sen. ( Dr.) Murango, Kirinyaga County;

Sen. Murgor, West Pokot County; Sen. Mwaruma, Taita Taveta County; Sen. (Dr.) Oburu Oginga, Siaya County; Sen. Oketch Eddy; Migori County; Sen. Okiya Omtatah, Busia County; Sen. Osotsi, Vihiga County; Sen. Seki, Kajiado County; Sen. Thang’wa, Kiambu County; Sen. Wafula, Bungoma County; Wakili Sigei, Bomet County; and, Sen. Wambua, Kitui County.

NOES: Nil

The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Veronica Maina): Hon. Senators, the result of the Division are as follows-

AYES: 33 NOES: Nil ABSTENSIONS: Nil

The “Ayes” have it.

The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Veronica Maina): We are moving to the next Bill, the Social Protection Bill (National Assembly Bills No.12 of 2025). There was only one question.

BILL

THE SOCIAL PROTECTION BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.12 OF 2025) DIVISION ELECTRONIC VOTING

(Question, that Clauses 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, the Schedule, Clause 2, the Title and Clause 1 be part of the Bill, put and the Senate proceeded to vote by County Delegations) AYES: Sen. Abass, Wajir County; Sen. Ali Roba, Mandera County; Sen. Boy, Kwale County; Sen. Cherarkey, Nandi County; Sen. Cheruiyot, Kericho County; Sen. Chute, Marsabit County; Sen. Faki, Mombasa County; Sen. Gataya Mo Fire, Tharaka Nithi County; Sen. Githuku, Lamu County; Sen. Joe Nyutu, Murang’a County; Sen. Kathuri, Meru County; Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, Kakamega County; Sen. Kinyua, Laikipia County; Sen. Kisang, Elgeyo Marakwet County; Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe Ltumbesi, Samburu County; Sen. Lomenen, Turkana County; Sen. Maanzo, Makueni County; Sen. Madzayo, Kilifi County; Sen. Methu, Nyandarua County; Sen. M. Kajwang, Homa Bay County; Sen. Munyi Mundigi, Embu County; Sen. (Dr.) Murango, Kirinyaga County; Sen. Murgor, West Pokot County; Sen. Mwaruma, Taita Taveta County; Sen. (Dr.) Oburu

Oginga, Siaya County; Sen. Oketch Gicheru, Migori County; Sen. Okiya Omtatah, Busia County; Sen. Osotsi, Vihiga County; Sen. Seki, Kajiado County; Sen. Thang’wa, Kiambu County; Sen. Wafula, Bungoma County; Sen. Wakili Sigei, Bomet County; and, Sen. Wambua, Kitui County.

NOES: Nil ABSTENTIONS: Nil

The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Veronica Maina): Hon. Senators, the results of the Division are as follows-

AYES: 33 NOES: Nil ABSTENTIONS: Nil

The “Ayes” have it.

That brings us to the end of that division on the Social Protection Bill (National Assembly Bills No.12 of 2025).

We are now moving to the Conflict-of-Interest Bill, (National Assembly Bills No.12 of 2025).

BILL

THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.12 OF 2023

(Consideration of the President’s Recommendations)

DIVISION ROLL CALL VOTING

(Question, that the President’s recommendation on Clause 2 be approved, put and the Senate proceeded to vote by County Delegations) AYES: Sen. Ali Roba, Mandera County; Sen. Boy, Kwale County; Sen. Cherarkey, Nandi County; Sen. Cheruiyot, Kericho County; Sen. Chute, Marsabit County; Sen. Faki, Mombasa County; Sen. Gataya Mo Fire, Tharaka Nithi County; Sen. Githuku, Lamu County; Sen. Joe Nyutu, Murang’a County; Sen. Kathuri, Meru County; Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, Kakamega County; Sen. Kinyua, Laikipia County; Sen. Kisang, Elgeyo Marakwet County; Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe Ltumbesi, Samburu County; Sen. Lomenen, Turkana County; Sen. Madzayo, Kilifi County; Sen. Methu, Nyandarua County; Sen. M. Kajwang, Homa Bay County; Sen. Munyi Mundigi, Embu County; Sen. (Dr.) Murango, Kirinyaga County; Sen. Murgor, West Pokot County; Sen. Mwaruma, Taita Taveta County; Sen. (Dr.) Oburu Oginga, Siaya County; Sen. Oketch Gicheru,

Migori County; Sen. Okiya Omtatah, Busia County; Sen. Osotsi, Vihiga County; Sen. Seki, Kajiado County; Sen. Thang’wa, Kiambu County; Sen. Wafula, Bungoma County; Sen. Wakili Sigei, Bomet County; and, Sen. Wambua, Kitui County.

Teller of the Ayes:

Sen. Chimera. NOES

Sen. Maanzo, Makueni County. Teller of the Noes:

Sen. Lemaletian ABSTENTIONS

Sen. Abass, Wajir County. The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Veronica Maina): Hon. Senators, the results of the Division are as follows-

AYES: 31 NOES:1 ABSTENTIONS: 1

The “Ayes” have it.

DIVISION ROLL CALL VOTING

(Question, that the President’s recommendation on Clause 5 be approved, put and the Senate proceeded to vote by County Delegations) AYES: Sen. Ali Roba, Mandera County; Sen. Boy, Kwale County; Sen. Cherarkey, Nandi County; Sen. Cheruiyot, Kericho County; Sen. Chute, Marsabit County; Sen. Faki, Mombasa County; Sen. Gataya Mo Fire, Tharaka Nithi County; Sen. Githuku, Lamu County; Sen. Joe Nyutu, Murang’a County; Sen. Kathuri, Meru County; Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, Kakamega County; Sen. Kinyua, Laikipia County; Sen. Kisang, Elgeyo Marakwet County; Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe Ltumbesi, Samburu County; Sen. Lomenen, Turkana County; Sen. Madzayo, Kilifi County; Sen. Methu, Nyandarua County; Sen. M. Kajwang, Homa Bay County; Sen. Munyi Mundigi, Embu County; Sen. (Dr.) Murango, Kirinyaga County; Sen. Murgor, West Pokot County; Sen. Mwaruma, Taita Taveta County; Sen. (Dr.) Oburu Oginga, Siaya County; Sen. Oketch Gicheru, Migori County; Sen. Okiya Omtatah, Busia County; Sen. Osotsi, Vihiga County; Sen. Seki, Kajiado County; Sen. Thang’wa, Kiambu County; Sen. Wafula, Bungoma County; Sen. Wakili Sigei, Bomet County; and, Sen. Wambua, Kitui County.

Teller of the Ayes:

Sen. Chimera. NOES

Sen. Maanzo, Makueni County. Teller of the Noes:

Sen. Lemaletian ABSTENTIONS

Sen. Abass, Wajir County. The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Veronica Maina): Hon. Senators, the results of the Division are as follows-

AYES: 31 NOES:1

ABSTENTIONS: 1

The “Ayes” have it.

DIVISION ROLL CALL VOTING

(Question, that the President’s recommendation on Clause 6 be approved, put and the Senate proceeded to vote by County Delegations) AYES: Sen. Ali Roba, Mandera County; Sen. Boy, Kwale County; Sen. Cherarkey, Nandi County; Sen. Cheruiyot, Kericho County; Sen. Chute, Marsabit County; Sen. Faki, Mombasa County; Sen. Gataya Mo Fire, Tharaka Nithi County; Sen. Githuku, Lamu County; Sen. Joe Nyutu, Murang’a County; Sen. Kathuri, Meru County; Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, Kakamega County; Sen. Kinyua, Laikipia County; Sen. Kisang, Elgeyo Marakwet County; Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe Ltumbesi, Samburu County; Sen. Lomenen, Turkana County; Sen. Madzayo, Kilifi County; Sen. Methu, Nyandarua County; Sen. M. Kajwang, Homa Bay County; Sen. Munyi Mundigi, Embu County; Sen. (Dr.) Murango, Kirinyaga County; Sen. Murgor, West Pokot County; Sen. Mwaruma, Taita Taveta County; Sen. (Dr.) Oburu Oginga, Siaya County; Sen. Oketch Gicheru, Migori County; Sen. Okiya Omtatah, Busia County; Sen. Osotsi, Vihiga County; Sen. Seki, Kajiado County; Sen. Thang’wa, Kiambu County; Sen. Wafula, Bungoma County; Sen. Wakili Sigei, Bomet County; and, Sen. Wambua, Kitui County.

Teller of the Ayes:

Sen. Chimera. NOES

Sen. Maanzo, Makueni County; Teller of the Noes:

Sen. Lemaletian ABSTENTIONS

Sen. Abass, Wajir County; The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Veronica Maina): Hon. Senators, the results of the Division are as follows-

AYES: 31 NOES:1 ABSTENTIONS: 1

The “Ayes” have it.

DIVISION ROLL CALL VOTING

(Question, that the President’s recommendation on Clause 8 be approved, put and the Senate proceeded to vote by County Delegations)

Sen. Lemaletian ABSTENTIONS

AYES: Sen. Ali Roba, Mandera County; Sen. Boy, Kwale County; Sen. Cherarkey, Nandi County; Sen. Cheruiyot, Kericho County; Sen. Chute, Marsabit County; Sen. Faki, Mombasa County; Sen. Gataya Mo Fire, Tharaka Nithi County; Sen. Githuku, Lamu County; Sen. Joe Nyutu, Murang’a County; Sen. Kathuri, Meru County; Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, Kakamega County; Sen. Kinyua, Laikipia County; Sen. Kisang, Elgeyo Marakwet County; Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe Ltumbesi, Samburu County; Sen. Lomenen, Turkana County; Sen. Madzayo, Kilifi County; Sen. Methu, Nyandarua County; Sen. M. Kajwang, Homa Bay County; Sen. Munyi Mundigi, Embu County; Sen. (Dr.) Murango, Kirinyaga County; Sen. Murgor, West Pokot County; Sen. Mwaruma, Taita Taveta County; Sen. (Dr.) Oburu Oginga, Siaya County; Sen. Oketch Gicheru, Migori County; Sen. Okiya Omtatah, Busia County; Sen. Osotsi, Vihiga County; Sen. Seki, Kajiado County; Sen. Thang’wa, Kiambu County; Sen. Wafula, Bungoma County; Sen. Wakili Sigei, Bomet County; and, Sen. Wambua, Kitui County.

Teller of the Ayes:

Sen. Chimera. NOES

Sen. Maanzo, Makueni County. Teller of the Noes:

Sen. Lemaletian ABSTENTIONS

Sen. Abass, Wajir County. The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Veronica Maina): Hon. Senators, the results of the Division are as follows-

AYES: 31 NOES:1 ABSTENTIONS: 1

The “Ayes” have it.

DIVISION ROLL CALL VOTING

(Question, that the President’s recommendation on Clause 12 be approved, put and the Senate proceeded to vote by County Delegations) AYES: Sen. Ali Roba, Mandera County; Sen. Boy, Kwale County; Sen. Cherarkey, Nandi County; Sen. Cheruiyot, Kericho County; Sen. Chute, Marsabit County; Sen. Faki, Mombasa County; Sen. Gataya Mo Fire, Tharaka Nithi County; Sen. Githuku, Lamu County; Sen. Joe Nyutu, Murang’a County; Sen. Kathuri, Meru County; Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, Kakamega County; Sen. Kinyua, Laikipia County; Sen. Kisang, Elgeyo Marakwet County; Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe Ltumbesi, Samburu County; Sen. Lomenen, Turkana County; Sen. Madzayo, Kilifi County; Sen. Methu, Nyandarua County; Sen. M. Kajwang, Homa Bay County; Sen. Munyi Mundigi, Embu County; Sen. (Dr.) Murango, Kirinyaga County; Sen. Murgor, West Pokot County; Sen. Mwaruma, Taita Taveta County; Sen. (Dr.) Oburu Oginga, Siaya County; Sen. Oketch Gicheru,

Sen. Lemaletian ABSTENTIONS

Migori County; Sen. Okiya Omtatah, Busia County; Sen. Osotsi, Vihiga County; Sen. Seki, Kajiado County; Sen. Thang’wa, Kiambu County; Sen. Wafula, Bungoma County; Sen. Wakili Sigei, Bomet County; and, Sen. Wambua, Kitui County.

Teller of the Ayes:

Sen. Chimera. NOES

Sen. Maanzo, Makueni County. Teller of the Noes:

Sen. Lemaletian ABSTENTIONS

Sen. Abass, Wajir County. The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Veronica Maina): Hon. Senators, the results of the Division are as follows-

AYES: 31 NOES:1 ABSTENTIONS: 1

The “Ayes” have it.

DIVISION ROLL CALL VOTING

(Question, that the President’s recommendation on Clause 16 be approved, put and the Senate proceeded to vote by County Delegations) AYES: Sen. Ali Roba, Mandera County; Sen. Boy, Kwale County; Sen. Cherarkey, Nandi County; Sen. Cheruiyot, Kericho County; Sen. Chute, Marsabit County; Sen. Faki, Mombasa County; Sen. Gataya Mo Fire, Tharaka Nithi County; Sen. Githuku, Lamu County; Sen. Joe Nyutu, Murang’a County; Sen. Kathuri, Meru County; Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, Kakamega County; Sen. Kinyua, Laikipia County; Sen. Kisang, Elgeyo Marakwet County; Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe Ltumbesi, Samburu County; Sen. Lomenen, Turkana County; Sen. Madzayo, Kilifi County; Sen. Methu, Nyandarua County; Sen. M. Kajwang, Homa Bay County; Sen. Munyi Mundigi, Embu County; Sen. (Dr.) Murango, Kirinyaga County; Sen. Murgor, West Pokot County; Sen. Mwaruma, Taita Taveta County; Sen. (Dr.) Oburu Oginga, Siaya County; Sen. Oketch Gicheru, Migori County; Sen. Okiya Omtatah, Busia County; Sen. Osotsi, Vihiga County; Sen. Seki, Kajiado County; Sen. Thang’wa, Kiambu County; Sen. Wafula, Bungoma County; Sen. Wakili Sigei, Bomet County; and, Sen. Wambua, Kitui County.

Teller of the Ayes:

Sen. Chimera. NOES

Sen. Maanzo, Makueni County. Teller of the Noes:

Sen. Lemaletian ABSTENTIONS

Sen. Abass, Wajir County. The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Veronica Maina): Hon. Senators, the results of the Division are as follows-

AYES: 31 NOES:1

ABSTENTIONS: 1

The “Ayes” have it.

DIVISION ROLL CALL VOTING

(Question, that the President’s recommendation on Clause 17 be approved, put and the Senate proceeded to vote by County Delegations) AYES: Sen. Ali Roba, Mandera County; Sen. Boy, Kwale County; Sen. Cherarkey, Nandi County; Sen. Cheruiyot, Kericho County; Sen. Chute, Marsabit County; Sen. Faki, Mombasa County; Sen. Gataya Mo Fire, Tharaka Nithi County; Sen. Githuku, Lamu County; Sen. Joe Nyutu, Murang’a County; Sen. Kathuri, Meru County; Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, Kakamega County; Sen. Kinyua, Laikipia County; Sen. Kisang, Elgeyo Marakwet County; Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe Ltumbesi, Samburu County; Sen. Lomenen, Turkana County; Sen. Madzayo, Kilifi County; Sen. Methu, Nyandarua County; Sen. M. Kajwang, Homa Bay County; Sen. Munyi Mundigi, Embu County; Sen. (Dr.) Murango, Kirinyaga County; Sen. Murgor, West Pokot County; Sen. Mwaruma, Taita Taveta County; Sen. (Dr.) Oburu Oginga, Siaya County; Sen. Oketch Gicheru, Migori County; Sen. Okiya Omtatah, Busia County; Sen. Osotsi, Vihiga County; Sen. Seki, Kajiado County; Sen. Thang’wa, Kiambu County; Sen. Wafula, Bungoma County; Sen. Wakili Sigei, Bomet County; and, Sen. Wambua, Kitui County.

Teller of the Ayes:

Sen. Chimera. NOES

Sen. Maanzo, Makueni County. Teller of the Noes:

Sen. Lemaletian ABSTENTIONS

Sen. Abass, Wajir County. The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Veronica Maina): Hon. Senators, the results of the Division are as follows: -

AYES: 31 NOES:1 ABSTENTIONS: 1

The “Ayes” have it.

DIVISION ROLL CALL VOTING

(Question, that the President’s recommendation on Clause 18 be approved, put and the Senate proceeded to vote by County Delegations)

Sen. Lemaletian ABSTENTIONS

AYES: Sen. Ali Roba, Mandera County; Sen. Boy, Kwale County; Sen. Cherarkey, Nandi County; Sen. Cheruiyot, Kericho County; Sen. Chute, Marsabit County; Sen. Faki, Mombasa County; Sen. Gataya Mo Fire, Tharaka Nithi County; Sen. Githuku, Lamu County; Sen. Joe Nyutu, Murang’a County; Sen. Kathuri, Meru County; Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, Kakamega County; Sen. Kinyua, Laikipia County; Sen. Kisang, Elgeyo Marakwet County; Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe Ltumbesi, Samburu County; Sen. Lomenen, Turkana County; Sen. Madzayo, Kilifi County; Sen. Methu, Nyandarua County; Sen. M. Kajwang, Homa Bay County; Sen. Munyi Mundigi, Embu County; Sen. (Dr.) Murango, Kirinyaga County; Sen. Murgor, West Pokot County; Sen. Mwaruma, Taita Taveta County; Sen. (Dr.) Oburu Oginga, Siaya County; Sen. Oketch Gicheru, Migori County; Sen. Okiya Omtatah, Busia County; Sen. Osotsi, Vihiga County; Sen. Seki, Kajiado County; Sen. Thang’wa, Kiambu County; Sen. Wafula, Bungoma County; Sen. Wakili Sigei, Bomet County; and, Sen. Wambua, Kitui County.

Teller of the Ayes:

Sen. Chimera. NOES

Sen. Maanzo, Makueni County. Teller of the Noes:

Sen. Lemaletian ABSTENTIONS

Sen. Abass, Wajir County. The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Veronica Maina): Hon. Senators, the results of the Division are as follows-

AYES: 31 NOES:1 ABSTENTIONS: 1

The “Ayes” have it.

DIVISION ROLL CALL VOTING

(Question, that the President’s recommendation on Clause 20 be approved, put and the Senate proceeded to vote by County Delegations) AYES: Sen. Ali Roba, Mandera County; Sen. Boy, Kwale County; Sen. Cherarkey, Nandi County; Sen. Cheruiyot, Kericho County; Sen. Chute, Marsabit County; Sen. Faki, Mombasa County; Sen. Gataya Mo Fire, Tharaka Nithi County; Sen. Githuku, Lamu County; Sen. Joe Nyutu, Murang’a County; Sen. Kathuri, Meru County; Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, Kakamega County; Sen. Kinyua, Laikipia County; Sen. Kisang, Elgeyo Marakwet County; Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe Ltumbesi, Samburu County; Sen. Lomenen, Turkana County; Sen. Madzayo, Kilifi County; Sen. Methu, Nyandarua County; Sen. M. Kajwang, Homa Bay County; Sen. Munyi Mundigi, Embu County; Sen. (Dr.) Murango, Kirinyaga County; Sen. Murgor, West Pokot County; Sen. Mwaruma, Taita Taveta County; Sen. (Dr.) Oburu Oginga, Siaya County; Sen. Oketch Gicheru,

Sen. Lemaletian ABSTENTIONS

Migori County; Sen. Okiya Omtatah, Busia County; Sen. Osotsi, Vihiga County; Sen. Seki, Kajiado County; Sen. Thang’wa, Kiambu County; Sen. Wafula, Bungoma County; Sen. Wakili Sigei, Bomet County; and, Sen. Wambua, Kitui County.

Teller of the Ayes:

Sen. Chimera. NOES

Sen. Maanzo, Makueni County. Teller of the Noes:

Sen. Lemaletian ABSTENTIONS

Sen. Abass, Wajir County. The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Veronica Maina): Hon. Senators, the results of the Division are as follows-

AYES: 31 NOES:1 ABSTENTIONS: 1

The “Ayes” have it.

The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Veronica Maina): Hon. Senators, on the second set of three questions, the results are as follows: Ayes, 33, Noes, zero and Abstentions, zero.

DIVISION ROLL CALL VOTING

(Question, that the President’s recommendation on Clause 30 be approved, put and the Senate proceeded to vote by County Delegations) AYES: Sen. Abass, Wajir County; Sen. Ali Roba, Mandera County; Sen. Boy, Kwale County; Sen. Cherarkey, Nandi County; Sen. Cheruiyot, Kericho County; Sen. Chute, Marsabit County; Sen. Faki, Mombasa County; Sen. Gataya Mo Fire, Tharaka Nithi County; Sen. Githuku, Lamu County; Sen. Joe Nyutu, Murang’a County; Sen. Kathuri, Meru County; Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, Kakamega County; Sen. Kinyua, Laikipia County; Sen. Kisang, Elgeyo Marakwet County; Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe Ltumbesi, Samburu County; Sen. Lomenen, Turkana County; Sen. Maanzo, Makueni County; Sen. Madzayo, Kilifi County; Sen. Methu, Nyandarua County; Sen. M. Kajwang, Homa Bay County; Sen. Munyi Mundigi, Embu County; Sen. (Dr.) Murango, Kirinyaga County; Sen. Murgor, West Pokot County; Sen. Mwaruma, Taita Taveta County; Sen. (Dr.) Oburu Oginga, Siaya County; Sen. Oketch Gicheru, Migori County; Sen. Okiya Omtatah, Busia County; Sen. Osotsi, Vihiga County; Sen. Seki, Kajiado County; Sen. Thang’wa, Kiambu County; Sen. Wafula, Bungoma County; Sen. Wakili Sigei, Bomet County; and, Sen. Wambua, Kitui County.

Teller of the Ayes: Sen. Chimera.

NOES: Nil

Teller of the Noes: Sen. Lemaletian

ABSTENTIONS: Nil

The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Veronica Maina): Hon. Senators, the results of the Division are as follows-

AYES: 33 NOES: Nil ABSTENTIONS: Nil

The “Ayes” have it.

DIVISION ROLL CALL VOTING

(Question, that the President’s recommendation on Clause 31 be approved, put and the Senate proceeded to vote by County Delegations) AYES: Sen. Abass, Wajir County; Sen. Ali Roba, Mandera County; Sen. Boy, Kwale County; Sen. Cherarkey, Nandi County; Sen. Cheruiyot, Kericho County; Sen. Chute, Marsabit County; Sen. Faki, Mombasa County; Sen. Gataya Mo Fire, Tharaka Nithi County; Sen. Githuku, Lamu County; Sen. Joe Nyutu, Murang’a County; Sen. Kathuri, Meru County; Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, Kakamega County; Sen. Kinyua, Laikipia County; Sen. Kisang, Elgeyo Marakwet County; Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe Ltumbesi, Samburu County; Sen. Lomenen, Turkana County; Sen. Maanzo, Makueni County; Sen. Madzayo, Kilifi County; Sen. Methu, Nyandarua County; Sen. M. Kajwang, Homa Bay County; Sen. Munyi Mundigi, Embu County; Sen. (Dr.) Murango, Kirinyaga County; Sen. Murgor, West Pokot County; Sen. Mwaruma, Taita Taveta County; Sen. (Dr.) Oburu Oginga, Siaya County; Sen. Oketch Gicheru, Migori County; Sen. Okiya Omtatah, Busia County; Sen. Osotsi, Vihiga County; Sen. Seki, Kajiado County; Sen. Thang’wa, Kiambu County; Sen. Wafula, Bungoma County; Sen. Wakili Sigei, Bomet County; Sen. Wambua, Kitui County.

Teller of the Ayes: Sen. Chimera.

NOES: Nil

Teller of the Noes: Sen. Lemaletian

ABSTENTIONS: Nil

The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Veronica Maina): Hon. Senators, the results of the Division are as follows-

AYES: 33 NOES: Nil ABSTENTIONS: Nil

The “Ayes” have it.

DIVISION ROLL CALL VOTING

(Question, that the President’s recommendation on Clause 35 be approved, put and the Senate proceeded to vote by County Delegations) AYES: Sen. Abass, Wajir County; Sen. Ali Roba, Mandera County; Sen. Boy, Kwale County; Sen. Cherarkey, Nandi County; Sen. Cheruiyot, Kericho County; Sen. Chute, Marsabit County; Sen. Faki, Mombasa County; Sen. Gataya Mo Fire, Tharaka Nithi County; Sen. Githuku, Lamu County; Sen. Joe Nyutu, Murang’a County; Sen. Kathuri, Meru County; Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, Kakamega County; Sen. Kinyua, Laikipia County; Sen. Kisang, Elgeyo Marakwet County; Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe Ltumbesi, Samburu County; Sen. Lomenen, Turkana County; Sen. Maanzo, Makueni County; Sen. Madzayo, Kilifi County; Sen. Methu, Nyandarua County; Sen. M. Kajwang, Homa Bay County; Sen. Munyi Mundigi, Embu County; Sen. (Dr.) Murango, Kirinyaga County; Sen. Murgor, West Pokot County; Sen. Mwaruma, Taita Taveta County; Sen. (Dr.) Oburu Oginga, Siaya County; Sen. Oketch Gicheru, Migori County; Sen. Okiya Omtatah, Busia County; Sen. Osotsi, Vihiga County; Sen. Seki, Kajiado County; Sen. Thang’wa, Kiambu County; Sen. Wafula, Bungoma County; Sen. Wakili Sigei, Bomet County; Sen. Wambua, Kitui County.

Teller of the Ayes: Sen. Chimera.

NOES: Nil

Teller of the Noes: Sen. Lemaletian

ABSTENTIONS: Nil

The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Veronica Maina): Hon. Senators, the results of the Division are as follows-

AYES: 33 NOES: Nil ABSTENTIONS: Nil

The “Ayes” have it.

That is the end of the division in respect of the Conflict of Interest Bill (National Assembly Bills No.12 of 2025)

We are proceeding to the reporting of the Bill by the Committee of the Whole.

THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT'S ADDITIONAL ALLOCATIONS (NO.2) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.8 OF 2025)

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Veronica Maina)

Sen. Eddy, you are completely destructive. The Senators cannot even hear whatever you are consulting with the Senate Majority Leader.

I would like to call the Mover of this Bill, Sen. Roba, to proceed and move. Please, report.

Madam Chairperson, I beg to report that the Committee do report to the Senate its consideration of the County Government's Additional Allocations (No.2) Bill (Senate Bills No.8 of 2025) and its approval thereof with amendments.

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Veronica Maina)

We are proceeding to the reporting of the Bill by the Committee of Whole on The Social Protection Bill, (National Assembly Bills No.12 of 2025) .

I call upon the Mover to report. Sen. Cheruiyot, please proceed.

THE SOCIAL PROTECTION BILL, (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.12 OF 2025)

Madam Speaker, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the Senate its consideration of the Social Protection Bill (National Assembly Bills No.12 of 2025) and its approval thereof, without amendments.

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Veronica Maina)

We are moving to the next Bill, The Conflict of Interest Bill (National Assembly Bills No.12 of 2023) .

I call upon the Mover, the Chairperson of the Standing Committee on Justice, Legal Affairs and Human Rights (JLAHRC) . Sen. Sigei to report.

THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.12 OF 2023)

Madam Chairperson, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the Senate its consideration of the President's Memoranda on the Conflict of Interest Bill (National Assembly Bills No.12 of 2023) and its approval thereof the recommendations on Clauses 2, 5, 6, 8, 12, 16, 17, 18, 20, 30, 31, and 35.

I thank you.

We have now concluded the Divisions and the reporting and we are proceeding to the House.

[The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Veronica Maina) left the Chair)]
The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

Hon. Senators, we are now not in the Committee of the Whole, but serious business.

You can see the Mace is here now.

REPORT AND CONSIDERATION OF REPORTS THE COUNTY GOVERNMENTS ADDITIONAL ALLOCATIONS (NO.2) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.8 OF 2025)

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

Hon. Senators, we are reporting on the County Governments Additional Allocations (No.2) Bill (Senate Bills No.8 of 2025) .

Chairperson, please proceed.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, I beg to report that the House do agree with the Committee of the Whole---

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

Sen. Veronica Maina, I saw you standing!

Sen. Veronica Maina

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I was wondering what Sen. Ali Roba was doing. I stood and he also stood.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the Whole has considered the County Governments Additional Allocations (No.2) Bill (Senate Bills No.8 of 2025 and its approval thereof with amendments.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

Okay, thank you. Mover, please, proceed.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report and request Sen. Wambua to second.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

Sen. Wambua, please, proceed.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I do second.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

Sen. M. Kajwang’ that business is for after this session.

(Laughter)
(Loud consultations)

Order, hon. Senators!

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

Mover, please proceed.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that the County Governments Additional Allocations (No.2) Bill (Senate Bills No.8 of 2025) be now Time.

I request Sen. Wambua to second.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I second.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

Hon. Senators, we are now going to Division.

Hon. Senators, let us report on all the Bills and then we can go to Division together.

Let me be clear now. Chairperson, Committee of the whole, please report.

THE SOCIAL PROTECTION BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.12 OF 2025)

Sen. Veronica Maina

Mr. Deputy Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the Whole has considered the Social Protection Bill (National Assembly Bills No.12 of 2025) and its approval thereof without amendments.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

Mover, please, proceed.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee on the said report and request Sen. Oketch Gicheru to second.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir I second.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri

Mover, Senate Majority Leader, please, proceed.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that The Social Protection Bill (National Assembly Bills No.12 of 2025) , be now read a Third Time.

I request Sen. Osotsi to second.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I second.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

Hon. Senator, it is also better to be clear on this. The reason I am pausing is so that Senators can give some inputs at this point because we are reading the Bill a Third Time. I am pausing so that, if there is any Senator who wants to give an input, he can say something at this point. Now that you have nothing to say I will put the Question.

THE CONFLICT OF INTERESTS BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.12 OF 2023)

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

Hon. Senators, we are now reporting on The Conflict of Interests Bill (National Assembly Bills No.12 of 2023) .

Chairperson, Committee of the Whole, please, proceed.

(Loud consultations)
Sen. Veronica Maina

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, can I be heard in silence? Please protect me.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

Hon. Senators! Sen. Cherarkey.

Sen. Veronica Maina

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg to report that the Committee of the Whole has considered the President’s Memoranda on the Conflict of Interest Bill (National Assembly Bills No.12 of 2023) and approved the recommendations on Clauses 2, 5, 6, 8, 12, 16, 17, 18, 20, 30, 31 and 35.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri

Mover, please, proceed.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report and request Sen. Olekina to second.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

Sen. Olekina has just walked in. Does he even know what you are asking him to second? Sen. Olekina is lost.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, with due respect and because of my colleague, I second, but I do not know what I am seconding.

(Laughter)
The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

Sen. Wakili Sigei, please get someone else to second.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I request Sen. Oketch to second.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I second.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

Hon. Senators, this is different from the others. This Bill is not going to the Third Reading and so, I want to communicate on its way forward.

Hon. Senators, having considered the Presidents Memoranda on the Conflict of Interest Bill (National Assembly Bill No.12 of 2023) and approved the recommendations on all the Questions, there will be no question on Third Reading. A Message on the decision of the Senate will be communicated to the National Assembly.

I thank you. Now, let us go to the Divisions, starting with the first one; The County Governments Additional Allocations (No.2) Bill (Senate Bills No.8 of 2025) .

Serjeant-at-Arms, just ring the Quorum Bell for two minutes to alert the Members who are outside.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

Serjeant-at-Arms, close the doors and draw the bars.

If that is done, we are voting on these Bills electronically. Serjeant-at-Arms, nobody should leave the Chamber after the bars are drawn. Whether you are voting as a delegation or a nominated Senator, you should be in the House.

Let us move to Division. Can you remove your cards first and log in?

I am waiting for the technical team to display the Division. Proceed and vote.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

Hon. Senators, I want to give the House some guidance since the system is not working and we have three Divisions. We have already done two. We must call out the Order of the third one and then I will put the question.

Clerk, proceed to call Order No.13.

MOTION

ADOPTION OF MEDIATION COMMITTEE REPORT ON THE GAMBLING CONTROL BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.70 OF 2023)

THAT, the Senate adopts the Report of the Mediation Committee on the Gambling Control Bill (National Assembly Bills No.70 of 2025), laid on the table of the Senate on Wednesday, 16th July, 2025; and that, pursuant to Article 113(2) of the Constitution and Standing Order No.167

  1. of the Senate, approves the mediated version of the Bill.

(Division)

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

I want to put the question.

Hon. Senators, as guided earlier, we will do the three divisions simultaneously. Therefore, since I put a question on the first two, now I put the question on Order No.13, which is, that the Senate adopts the report of the Mediation Committee on the Gambling Control Bill

(National Assembly Bills No. 70 of 2025)

.

We will do manual voting.

(Loud consultations)

Hon. Senators, you know that I do not take instructions from here. I am waiting for confirmation from Mr. Daniel. The system is back.

We start now with The County Governments Additional Allocations (No.2) (Senate Bills No. 8 of 2025). Proceed to vote. Can you log out first, then log in and then proceed to vote. Vote now.

Sen. Mwenda Gataya, vote.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

Let us go to the next division. Hon. Senators, you can vote on The Social Protection Bill (National Assembly Bills No.12 of 2025).

Hon. Senators, let us move to the next Division. Kindly be attentive, so that all of you can vote at a go to save on time. Go back to your seats and vote.

Sen. Cherarkey, what is up? You did not vote. Can we either vote ‘yes’, ‘no’ or ‘abstain.’

(Loud consultations)

Order, Senators! I want to give you the results of your hard work.

THIRD READINGS THE COUNTY GOVERNMENTS ADDITIONAL ALLOCATIONS (NO.2) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.8 OF 2025) DIVISION ELECTRONIC VOTING

(Question, that the County Governments Additional Allocations (No.2) (Senate Bills No.8 of 2025) be read a Third Time, put and the Senate proceeded to vote by County Delegations) AYES: Sen. Abass, Wajir County; Sen. Ali Roba, Mandera County; Sen. Boy, Kwale County; Sen. Cherarkey, Nandi County; Sen. Cheruiyot, Kericho County; Sen. Chute, Marsabit County; Sen. Faki, Mombasa County; Sen. Gataya Mo Fire, Tharaka Nithi County; Sen. Githuku, Lamu County; Sen. Joe Nyutu, Murang’a County; Sen. Kathuri, Meru County; Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, Kakamega County; Sen. Kinyua, Laikipia County; Sen. Kisang’, Elgeyo Marakwet County; Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe Ltumbesi, Samburu County; Sen. Lomenen, Turkana County; Sen. M. Kajwang’, Homa Bay County; Sen. Maanzo, Makueni County; Sen. Madzayo, Kilifi County; Sen. Methu, Nyandarua County; Sen. Munyi Mundigi, Embu County; Sen. (Dr.) Murango, Kirinyaga County; Sen. Murgor, West Pokot County; Sen. Mwaruma, Taita Taveta County; Sen. (Dr.) Oburu, Siaya County; Sen. Oketch Gicheru, Migori County; Sen. Okiya Omtatah, Busia County; Sen. Osotsi, Vihiga County; Sen. Seki, Kajiado County; Sen. Thang’wa, Kiambu County; Sen. Wakili Sigei, Bomet County; Sen. Wafula, Bungoma County; and, Sen. Wambua, Kitui County.

NOES: Nil.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

Hon. Senators, the results of the Division are as follows-

AYES: 33 NOES: Nil ABSENTIONS: Nil

The ‘‘Ayes’’ have it.

THE SOCIAL PROTECTION BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO. 12 OF 2025) DIVISION ELECTRONIC VOTING

(Question, that the Social Protection Bill (National Assembly Bills No. 12 of 2025) be read a Third Time, put and the Senate proceeded to vote by County Delegations) AYES: Sen. Abass, Wajir County; Sen. Ali Roba, Mandera County; Sen. Boy, Kwale County; Sen. Cherarkey, Nandi County; Sen. Cheruiyot, Kericho County; Sen. Chute, Marsabit County; Sen. Faki, Mombasa County; Sen. Gataya Mo Fire, Tharaka Nithi County; Sen. Githuku, Lamu County; Sen. Joe Nyutu, Muranga County; Sen. Kathuri, Meru County; Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, Kakamega County; Sen. Kinyua, Laikipia County; Sen. Kisang’, Elgeyo Marakwet County; Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe Ltumbesi, Samburu County; Sen. Lomenen, Turkana County; Sen. M. Kajwang’, Homa Bay County; Sen. Maanzo, Makueni County; Sen. Madzayo, Kilifi County; Sen. Methu, Nyandarua County; Sen. Munyi Mundigi, Embu County; Sen. (Dr.) Murango, Kirinyaga County; Sen. Murgor, West Pokot County; Sen. Mwaruma, Taita Taveta County; Sen. (Dr.) Oburu, Siaya County; Sen. Oketch Gicheru, Migori County; Sen. Okiya Omtatah, Busia County; Sen. Osotsi, Vihiga County; Sen. Seki, Kajiado County; Sen. Thang’wa, Kiambu County; Sen. Wakili Sigei, Bomet County; Sen. Wafula, Bungoma County and Sen. Wambua, Kitui County.

NOES: Nil

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

Hon. Senators, the results of the Division are as follows-

AYES: 33 NOES: Nil ABSENTIONS: Nil

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

The ‘‘Ayes’’ have it.

MOTION

ADOPTION OF MEDIATION COMMITTEE REPORT ON THE GAMBLING CONTROL BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.70 OF 2025) DIVISION ELECTRONIC VOTING

(Question, that the Senate adopts the Report of the Mediation Committee on the Gambling Control Bill (National Assembly Bills No.70 of 2025) laid on the table of the

Senate on Wednesday 16th July, 2025, and that, pursuant to Article 113(2) of the Constitution and Standing Order 167(3) of the Senate, approves the mediated version of

the Bill, proposed and the Senate proceeded to vote by County Delegations) AYES: Sen. Boy, Kwale County; Sen. Cherarkey, Nandi County; Sen. Cheruiyot, Kericho County; Sen. Faki, Mombasa County; Sen. Gataya Mo Fire, Tharaka Nithi County; Sen. Githuku, Lamu County; Sen. Kathuri, Meru County; Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, Kakamega County; Sen. Kinyua, Laikipia County; Sen. Kisang’, Elgeyo Marakwet County; Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe Ltumbesi, Samburu County; Sen. M. Kajwang’, Homa Bay County; Sen. Maanzo, Makueni County; Sen. Madzayo, Kilifi County; Sen. Mandago, Uasin Gishu County; Sen. Methu, Nyandarua County; Sen. Munyi Mundigi, Embu County; Sen. (Dr.) Murango, Kirinyaga County; Sen. Murgor, West Pokot County; Sen. Mwaruma, Taita Taveta County; Sen. (Dr.) Oburu, Siaya County; Sen. Oketch Gicheru, Migori County; Sen. Okiya Omtatah, Busia County; Sen. Olekina, Narok County; Sen. Osotsi, Vihiga County; Sen. Seki, Kajiado County; (Prof.) Tom Odhiambo Ojienda, SC, Kisumu County; Sen. Wakili Sigei, Bomet County; Sen. Wafula, Bungoma County and Sen. Wambua, Kitui County.

NOES: Sen. Abass, Wajir County; Sen. Ali Roba, Mandera County and Sen. Chute, Marsabit County.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

Hon. Senators, the results of the Division are as follows-

AYES: 30 NOES: 3 ABSENTIONS: Nil

The ‘‘Ayes’’ have it.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

Serjeant-At-Arms, now open the doors and withdraw the Bar.

Sen. Okiya Omtatah, please give your Notice of Motion.

NOTICE OF MOTION

PROVISION OF IFMIS REPORTS FOR COUNTY GOVERNMENTS TO THE SENATE

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg to give Notice of the following Motion-

THAT, AWARE that, Article 96 of the Constitution provides that the Senate represents the counties, and serves to protect their interests, determines the allocation of national revenue among counties, as provided in Article 217, and exercises oversight over national revenue allocated to the County Governments;

FURTHER AWARE THAT, in the case of The Senate, the Council of Governors and 6 others Petition No. 24 and 27 of 2029 (consolidated) 2022 KESC No. 57 (KLR) , the Supreme Court affirmed that the Senate’s oversight authority extents to both nationally allocated and locally generated revenue;

CONCERNED THAT, that Senators are constrained by lack of access to real time to data from the IFMIS system for the respective counties they represent, thus affecting effective oversight of County Governments;

FURTHER CONCERNED THAT, in some instances data and information presented to the Senate by the Auditor-General and the Controller of Budget are received and considered late as a result of the backlog resulting into too much information not getting properly reviewed by Senators;

NOTING THAT, as a result of unchecked financial information and systems, County Governments have continued to accumulate pending bills resulting from unplanned expenditures, unaccounted for and inflated cost of projects;

NOW THEREFORE, the Senate resolves, that the Cabinet Secretary in charge of the National Treasury shall on a monthly basis forward to the Clerk of the Senate all IFMIS transactions and reports for each County Government for onward transmission to the respective Senator for information on accountability and transparency, in order to strengthen their constitutional oversight and promote good governance in the management of public finances.

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

Thank you, Sen. Okiya Omtatah. Hon. Senators, we will go back now to Order No.7. We start with the Statements under Standing Order No.53 (1) .

STATEMENTS

SECURITY SITUATION IN KENYATTA NATIONAL HOSPITAL AND OTHER PUBLIC HEALTH FACILITIES

Sen. Sifuna is not around. That Statement is deferred.

Proceed, Sen. John Kinyua.

DEATH OF MASTER THOMAS GACHWARA AND MS. JULIA NJOKI DURING SABA SABA DEMONSTRATIONS

:

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on National Security, Defence and Foreign Relations on a matter of national concern regarding the deaths of Master Thomas Gachwara and Ms. Julia Njoki during and after the saba saba demonstrations on 7th July, 2025 in Nanyuki, Laikipia County.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, Julia Njoki, a 24-year old, was arrested during the saba saba demonstrations in Nanyuki on 7th July, 2025. After being charged in court the following day, she was granted a cash bail of Kshs25,000, which she could not afford, leading to her remand in Nanyuki Prisons.

On 9th July, her family was informed that she had collapsed in custody and was taken to Nanyuki Teaching and Referral Hospital with severe injuries. She later died, with preliminary medical reports pointing to blunt force trauma, raising serious concern about her treatment while in State custody.

Further intensifying public concern was the fatal shooting by the police of Thomas Gachwara, a Form Three student, also in Nanyuki on the same day of the protests. These incidents highlighted a worrying trend of the use of excessive force by law enforcement agencies during demonstrations and exposed critical failures in protecting detainees' rights and ensuring police accountability.

In the Statement, the Committee should address the following -

  1. An account by the Inspector General of Police (IG) and the Commissioner General of Prisons on the circumstances surrounding the arrest, detention and death of Ms. Julia Njoki as well as the fatal shooting of Mr. Thomas Gachwara, including the operational decisions taken during the saba saba protests and the disciplinary measures taken against the officers involved.
  2. The extent of violation of rights of demonstrators generally as well as persons arrested and or detained during the protests and the legal or disciplinary action taken against the culpable police officers’.
  3. Whether the Independent Policing Oversight Authority (IPOA) has initiated investigation into police operations during the saba saba protests, specifically the killing of innocent Kenyans and the use of brutal force against unarmed protesters to ensure that those responsible are held accountable.
  4. Recommendation for reforms to ensure transparency, accountability and respect of human rights in crowd control and detention procedures, including whether enforcement officers receive sufficient training on lawful conduct and ethical standards in line with their duties and the system in place to hold them accountable for misconduct. I thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir.
The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

Sen. Abass Sheikh Mohamed.

UTILISATION OF CLIMATE FINANCING AND DEVELOPMENT GRANTS IN WAJIR COUNTY

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Finance and Budget on a matter of county-wide concern regarding the utilization of climate financing and development grants by Wajir County in the energy, environment and natural resource sector during the financial years 2023/2024 and 2024/2025.

It is noteworthy that Wajir County receives substantial climate-related funds, including an allocation from the Climate Change Adaptation Fund, which constitutes two per cent of the county's annual development budget. In addition, the county benefits from the external grants, notably, the Financing Locally-Led Climate Action Programme (FLLoCA) . Despite the presence of these resources, questions abound regarding the transparency, equity and effectiveness of the implementation at the ward level.

In light of this, I request that the Committee address the following-

  1. Utilization of the capital grants and transfers by Wajir County, including source of funding, total amount received, funded projects, the allocations and awards and current implementation status;
  2. Provide a list of infrastructure and civil works projects implemented by the County, including project names, locations, and progress updates;
  3. A ward-by-ward breakdown of projects financed through the Climate Change Adaptation Fund, including the project names, amounts allocated and implementation status.
  4. A list of the FLLOCA-funded projects, specifying the names, locations, amounts and the list of beneficiary categories by the works. I submit, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir.
The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

Sen. Hezena.

STATUS OF CRITICAL MEDICAL EQUIPMENT AT BARAGOI SUB-COUNTY HOSPITAL

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Health on

a matter of county-wide concern regarding the status of critical medical equipment at Baragoi Sub-County Hospital in Samburu County.

Baragoi Sub-County Hospital serves a vast population in the northern part of Samburu County in the northern constituency, including remote and under-served communities. The hospital continues to face major challenges in the delivery of essential health services due to lack of functional equipment.

The anesthesia and X-ray machines have been out of service for an extended period despite repeated requests for repair, forcing patients to seek radiological services in the distant Maralal. The hospital also lacks a CT scan and a full haemogram machine, both essential for accurate diagnosis, surgical procedures and maternal care.

In the Statement, the Committee should address the following-

  1. Reasons behind the delay in servicing and repairing and the anesthesia and X- ray machines and establish who is responsible for this prolonged inaction.
  2. Plans by the county and national governments to equip Baragoi Sub-County Hospital with a CT scan machine.
  3. The expected timelines for procurement of a haemogram machine to improve the hospital’s surgical and diagnostic capacity.
  4. The interventions to ensure the hospital operates at full capacity and can adequately safeguard the health and wellbeing of residents in Samburu North Sub-County and the county at large.
The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

Next are Statements by Sen. (Dr.) Murango.

Bw. Naibu Spika, nina Taarifa tatu ambazo ningependa kusoma mtawalia.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

Sorry, Sen. (Dr.) Murango. Kindly approach the Chair.

HALI YA GEREZA LA WANAWAKE LA LANGATA NA MASLAHI YA MAAFISA WA MAGEREZA

Bw. Naibu Spika, nasimama kwa mujibu wa Kanuni ya Kudumu Nambari 53 (1) ya Kanuni za Kudumu za Seneti kuomba Kauli kuhusu suala la kitaifa kutoka kwa Kamati ya Leba na Ustawi wa Jamii kuhusu hali mbaya ya Gereza la Wanawake la Langata na changamoto zinazokumba maafisa wa magereza katika utekelezaji wa majukumu yao.

Gereza la Wanawake la Langata ni miongoni mwa magereza makubwa nchini na machache ambamo wahalifu wa kike wanafungwa. Kwa masikitiko makubwa, gereza hilo halina ua rasmi, jambo linalotishia usalama wa wafungwa. Kando na hilo, visa vya ukatili na dhuluma za kijinsia dhidi ya watoto wanaoishi gerezani vimeripotiwa na kuibua wasiwasi.

Aidha, kituo cha elimu ya utotoni, yani Early Childhood Development and Education (ECDE) , kinachohudumia watoto wa wafungwa katika gereza hilo na maafisa wa magereza na jamii jirani kimeachwa nje ya mpango wa lishe na Serikali ya Kaunti ya

Nairobi. Vilevile, kituo cha afya cha daraja la tatu kilicho ndani ya gereza hilo kinakabiliwa na uhaba wa dawa na wahudumu, hali inayotishia afya ya wafungwa, watoto na maafisa.

Licha ya kuchimbwa kwa kisima na Mamlaka ya Tana and Athi Rivers Development Authority (TARDA), kisima hicho hakifaidi jamii ya gereza hilo kutokana na ukosefu wa vifaa vya kusukuma na kusambaza maji.

Katika Kauli hiyo, Kamati inapaswa kueleza yafuatayo-

  1. Iwapo Serikali
  2. Hatua za kuboresha mazingira ya kazi, marupurupu na maslahi ya maafisa wa
  3. Kwa nini kituo cha elimu ya utotoni cha Gereza la Langata kimeachwa nje ya
  4. Sababu za kutokamilishwa kwa kisima kilichochimbwa na TARDA ili imefanya ukaguzi wa kina wa miundombinu ya gereza hilo,
[The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) left the Chair]
[The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Wakili Sigei) in the Chair]

Bw. Spika wa Muda, ya pili---

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Wakili Sigei)

Just hold on. Sen. Madzayo, you are a seasoned Member of the House. You know you should not walk across the aisle the way you did. Please comply.

Proceed, Sen. (Dr.) Murango.

UKATILI WA MAAFISA WA GSU KATIKA KAUNTI YA KIRINYAGA

Bw. Spika wa Muda, nasimama kwa mujibu wa Kanuni ya Kudumu Nambari 53 (1) ya Kanuni za Kudumu za Seneti kuomba Kauli kutoka kwa Kamati ya Usalama wa Taifa, Ulinzi na Uhusiano wa Kimataifa kuhusu visa vya ukatili wa maafisa kadhaa wa polisi kutoka kwa Kikosi cha General Service Unit (GSU) katika Kaunti ya Kirinyaga.

Katika kipindi cha hivi karibuni, Kikosi cha GSU kimekuwa kikiwakabili kwa nguvu kupita kiasi wakazi wa maeneo ya Kutus, Ngurubani na Gachai katika Kaunti ya

Kirinyaga. Wakazi wa Kijiji cha Gachai wamelalamika kuwa maafisa hao walivamia nyumba kadhaa usiku wa Julai 11 mwaka wa 2025 na kupiga raia wasio na hatia na hata kuwalazimu wanawake kuvua nguo zao.

Wakazi wa maeneo ya Ngurabani na Kutus pia wameshuhudia ukatili, kukamatwa kiholela na vitisho katika siku za hivi karibuni. Matendo hayo yanadhoofisha imani ya wananchi katika vyombo vya usalama na ni kinyume na Vifungu 28, 29, 50 na 244 vya Katiba ya Kenya vinavyobainisha haki za kibinadamu na majukumu ya Idara ya Polisi.

Katika Kauli hiyo, Kamati izingatie yafuatayo-

  1. Sababu zilizopeleka maafisa hao wa Kikosi cha GSU kutumia nguvu kupita kiasi dhidi ya wakazi wa maeneo ya Kutus, Ngurubani na Gachai katika Kaunti ya Kirinyaga.
  2. Hatua zinazochukuliwa kuwachunguza na kuwaajibisha maafisa waliohusika katika visa hivyo.
  3. Hatua zinazochukuliwa kuzuia kurudiwa kwa visa kama hivyo na kuhakikisha kuwa wakazi wa Kaunti ya Kirinyaga wanaheshimiwa kwa haki zao za kikatiba hasa na maafisa wa polisi wanaotumikia kikosi maalum cha Idara ya GSU. Bw. Spika wa Muda, ya mwisho imeandikwa kwa lugha ya kilowezi. Kwa hivyo, niruhusu nisome jinsi ilivyo.

STATE OF EARLY CHILDHOOD DEVELOPMENT EDUCATION IN KIRINYAGA COUNTY

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Education on a matter of countywide concern regarding the state of ECDE in the County Government of Kirinyaga. This follows numerous complaints about the deteriorating state of ECDE centres in the county as well as lack of conducive learning and teaching environment for both learners and teachers.

In the Statement, the Committee should address the following-

  1. The number of ECDE centres in Kirinyaga County, including the number of permanent and semi-permanent classrooms as well as existing classrooms shortage.
  2. Status of implementation of ECDE teachers’ scheme of service by the County Government of Kirinyaga;
  3. The current teacher-pupil ratio and whether there is a shortage of ECDE teachers; and,
  4. The measures taken by the County Government of Kirinyaga to ensure all ECDE teachers are employed permanently, receive their salaries on time and are promoted following due process. Signed by Sen. (Dr.) Kamau Murango on 16th July, 2025. Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir.
The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Wakili Sigei)

Thank you, Sen. (Dr.) Murango. Lastly, I will allow Sen. Madzayo to read his Statement, which had also been approved by the Speaker.

RESURGENCE OF A CULT-LIKE ACTIVITIES IN BINZARO VILLAGE, KILIFI COUNTY

The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Madzayo): Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53(1) to request for a Statement from the Standing Committee on National Security, Defense and Foreign Relations regarding the resurgence of a cult-like activity in Binzaro village of Chakama in Shakahola, Kilifi County, nearly two years after the massacre.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, in the Statement, the Committee should-

  1. Investigate the circumstances that led to the mysterious death of at least three individuals in a suspected case of religious radicalisation in the Binzaro village of Chakama, close to Shakahola in Kilifi County;
  2. Find out why there was colossal failure by the Government to protect the survivors of the Shakahola massacre from regrouping and continuing indoctrination in Binzaro village which is a few kilometres from Shakahola;
  3. Disclose a detailed breakdown of the total number of the survivors of the Shakahola massacre, including minors and the steps taken to rehabilitate, reintegrate and support them to prevent them from regrouping;
  4. Provide the current status of the criminal investigations and legal proceedings against individuals implicated in the Shakahola tragedy to deter the religious extremist leaders from indoctrinating the public or the citizens of Kilifi County;
  5. Provide the timeline for releasing of the Shakahola victims' bodies to their families along with the cause of the delays; and,
  6. Finally, the Committee should recommend the long-term measures the Ministry of Interior and Coordination of National Government should take to protect the communities from religious exploitation, particularly in the remote parts of Shakahola and the vulnerable areas. I thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir.
The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Wakili Sigei)

Now, I will allow Members to comment on the Statements which have been read out. However, the timeline will be limited to 20 minutes, starting now.

When you get an opportunity to contribute, kindly be mindful of the rest of your colleagues who also desire to comment on the Statements.

Sen. Omogeni

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I want to make a comment on the Statement that was read by the Senator for Laikipia, Sen. Kinyua. We, as Kenyans, are all concerned of the number of youthful Kenyans, more so students, in our polytechnics and universities, who have lost their lives. Last week, we buried a student in Nyamira who was shot by a police officer at Ekerubo Gietai Technical Training Institute.

Nobody from the police station that was involved in that murder has either recorded a statement or been arrested as part of investigations. I believe that this is because of the declarations or the kind of signals that the Cabinet Secretary, Ministry of Interior and National Coordination sent.

A country that does not care about its future generation is doomed. If we are good students of history, we should learn from what is happening in other parts of the world. If

Sen. Omogeni

you remember, there was a mass massacre of university students in Bangladesh in 2024 where about 1,500 students lost their lives. As I speak, the former Prime Minister, Sheikh Hasina, the Home Cabinet Secretary, equivalent of our Cabinet Secretary, Ministry of Interior and National Coordination and the Inspector General of Police are facing a tribunal for crimes against humanity and genocide against innocent students.

We do not support people who are out to destroy anybody's property. We were students at the University of Nairobi and we were involved in demonstrations. Once in a while, you would get one or two people, in the group, who could destroy vehicles and we used to reprimand them. The police never responded by shooting dead our colleagues.

We were there with Hon. Kabando wa Kabando, Hon. Moses Kuria, Hon. Munya and Sen. Mungatana. In the entire three years that we were at the University of Nairobi, not one university student was shot dead by police officers. Right now, it has become the norm. We have lost close to 10 students from our higher learning institutions. We cannot allow this to continue.

Anybody who breaks the law in a country that respects the rule of law should be arrested and arraigned in a court of law. He will then be proved guilty, convicted and taken to jail or he will be acquitted. We cannot say that police officers should be trigger happy and should shoot to kill. That is a recipe for chaos.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I want to tell those who are making these pronouncements that there is no limitation in criminal liability. I have told you of what has happened in other jurisdictions like Bangladesh. Watch your mouth. Tomorrow, you will find yourself arraigned in courts. Our Constitution states that you enjoy immunity while in office as the President. When you leave, anything can happen.

In successive regimes in South Korea, four former presidents have been charged in courts. Two of them were convicted and pardoned after serving four years in jail. I want to appeal to our leaders, beginning with the President, the Cabinet Secretary and the Inspector General of Police, to promote the culture of arresting criminals and not shooting to kill. They should not even say that they should be shot in the legs. No law in this country allows anybody to give an order to shoot people in the leg. That should never be allowed.

I support this Statement and urge progressive civil societies, including the Law Society of Kenya (LSK) to document these criminal pronouncements from our leaders. When the right time comes, they can be charged either through private prosecution or through our state institutions.

I support and I am very disappointed with our leaders.

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Wakili Sigei)

Thank you, Sen. Omogeni. Hon. Members, I directed that the available timeline will be shared based on the number of Senators who wish to comment on the Statements. So, the next Senator I will allow to contribute to kindly take four minutes for the rest of the requests to be reached within the timeline I gave.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I thank Sen. (Dr.) Murango of Kirinyaga County for bringing the Statement on Lang'ata Women's Prison. The issue of Lang’ata Women Prison has been swept under the rug for some time. The conditions in Lang'ata Womens’ Prison are not only alarming, but are also an abuse of

human rights. They are also a direct contravention of Article 51 of our Constitution, which guarantees the rights and the conditions in prisons.

I happen to have spent a night at the remand prison of Lang'ata Womens’ one night, but luckily I was set free the following day. However, I had the privilege of walking around and seeing the conditions that Sen. Murango is talking about. As someone who had reported that day, I was put in a small cell with very tiny mattress. I could hardly get sleep.

I think some of these experiences that God makes us go through are important because he knows that on your journey ahead, you are going to be tasked with representing such people in such facilities. Some of them are pregnant while others have infants. The diet is not balanced.

There are no special conditions for the vulnerable populations in prisons. It is dark. It is either you sleep on the floor or on very thin mattresses. It is time that we decongest Lang'ata Womens’ prison and think about the conditions of the women in our prisons.

It is a big shame that we have ignored this very key area of our justice system. It does not mean that just because they are awaiting trial or some of them have already been sentenced. I doubt if any of you here knows what to kaba is. I kaba---

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Wakili Sigei)

Sen. Karen, be mindful of the language that you are using. Comply with the Standing Orders of the House.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, I do not think there is another word for that. There is no other language for that. It means squatting, when you are being counted. They do not count you as you stand. You have to squat. Kaba is prison language.

Sen. Murango, I do not know how you came to learn about this. Either you have a relative or a girlfriend in prison because this is very timely.

I support and the relevant Committee, to come up with sound reforms to help our women live in decent conditions as they serve their term.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, very briefly, I want to comment on the extremely disturbing statement brought by the good Senator from Kirinyaga County in terms of the conditions of our prisons, particularly prisons with young children.

Those children did not commit any crime to be incarcerated with their parents. So, it is about time that we think seriously as a country to figure out how we adapt with the current changes in the world. It is just like standing here today and I tell my little child not to use Artificial Intelligence (AI) . I would be thinking like a 19th century person instead of the 21st century. Therefore, it is about time that we try to teach our children how to use AI to be able to better them.

Countries like the United States of America, the UK, Australia and New Zealand have experimented on having private prisons run by private companies.

In the UK, a company like G4S, which is also here in Kenya also as a security company manages some private prisons. So, it is about time for us to really be realistic and become AI, thinking individuals or 21st century legislators and advocate for the privatization of institutions, especially those penitentiaries that have got children in them. Of course, there are pros and cons.

One, people might say because they are profit-driven, you know, those managing these prisons would probably try to come up with cost-saving measures to be able to earn more profit. However, we have to look at it also in a way that Government will be able to oversight them. It is wrong for us to punish our children.

When you hear that children in Lang’ata Women’s Prison are being raped, you know, who are there. Those children are not getting educational services which is guaranteed by our Constitution for every child in this country. It worries us.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, this statement should be taken seriously. It is about time that we start thinking outside the box. Let us experiment with the privatization of these penitentiaries. We can privatize the ones with children.

You might find that the Government will spend less money. I know a lot of people might worry that prison officers will lose jobs. No, people can find a way to work and we privatize them. We have so much land in this country. We have areas that are deserts. We can build a prison there, privatise and then fund it.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I request that you add me just 30 seconds on this matter. This issue of the massacre in Kilifi County is devastating. That when you go to Malindi, you will find a container with over 500 bodies inside. Why not resolve this matter, once and for all? Sometimes we do things that really leave some of us wondering whether our medulla oblongata is functioning. I think it is about time that the Government takes this matter seriously.

We need to take care of the health of the people who fall sick and admitted in the hospitals in Malindi. If a morgue is stinking as hell because maybe our criminal justice system is dragging its feet to resolve this matter, why not find a way of disposing?

Sen. Cherarkey

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, from the onset, I agree on the issue of prisons, having been a serial guest in a number of them and, at some point, you represented me.

By the time I was de-whipped, the Chairperson of the Committee on Justice, Legal Affairs and Humans Rights had a report of reforms in penal institutions. One of our recommendations was privatization of prisons within the country and also to avoid punishing the children that are born in prisons. It is very unfortunate and undermines Article 53 of the Constitution on the child rights and they say child-based interest.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, since you are the Chairperson of the Committee on Justice, Legal Affairs and Humans Rights, ensure you wind up on the report on penal institutions. There is much land where these prisons are. I am happy today that Lang’ata Cemetery is being expanded to become part of Kamiti Land among other lands. Therefore, we must be innovative.

Secondly, is on the issue of Kianjai in Kirinyaga County. It is not right that the GSU travel all the way from Nairobi to terrorize people of Kianjai village because of business differences. There are people that are using police or GSU. The next GSU camp that is in Mount Kenya region is in Laikipia. How can they drive GSU personnel all the way to Kirinyaga to terrorize people? I appeal to the Committee to look at this issue of business rivalry that we see in Kirinyaga, so that the people of Kianjai village do not suffer.

Sen. Cherarkey

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, on the issue of saba demos, while we empathize and sympathize with what happened, the organizers, planners and the executioners must be punished using anti-terrorism laws. That is economic sabotage and a way of sabotaging the Government.

When you even ban a police booth, you are a local terrorist and you must be handled as such. While we appeal for the IPOA and the Government to rein on the issue of police brutality and extrajudicial killings, any person found to have violated---

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, Article 37 of the Constitution guarantees the right to hold peaceful demonstrations and without arms. However, what we saw during saba saba were criminals and goons, attacking, looting businesses, burning police stations and blocking roads. They must be dealt with as local domestic terrorists.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, I join the Senate Minority Leader, Sen. Stewart Madzayo on the issue of Shakahola. Yesterday evening, I was shocked to learn that there is the Shakahola massacre season two. This is very sad knowing that the bodies of the previous Shakahola victims have never been released to their families.

I appeal to the Government to put closure to this issue of Shakahola. As a parent, I was at pains because we were told that bodies of children were being retrieved from shallow graves. This matter should capture the imagination and attention of the nation.

We have never seen the seriousness of prosecuting and persecuting individuals who have persecuted the Shakahola massacre. I sympathize and empathize with the great people of Kilifi County. I would like to assure them, through the Senate Minority Leader, that we are together and will pursue justice. They say the hand of the moral universe is long, but it always bends to justice.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, I submit.

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Wakili Sigei)

Lastly, Sen. Murango James, the

floor is yours.

Asante Mhe. Spika wa Muda. Ningependa kuchangia Taarifa ambayo ililetwa na Seneta wa Kaunti ya Laikipia. Hapo awali, nimesema kwamba ni vizuri kutofautisha maneno. Kwa mfano, kwa muda wa wiki moja, nimekuwa nikienda kuzika vijana wadogo waliouawa wakiwa na umri wa chini ya miaka 21.

Wengi wao waliuliwa katika maeneo ya Kaunti ya Kirinyaga, mmoja tu ndiye aliuliwa akiwa Githurai 44, ihlali hawakuwa katika maandamano yaliyokuweko. Tumesema ni wazi kwamba, kuna wakora ambao walikuwa wakiharibu mali ya umma na tunakubaliana wanafaa kuadhibiwa.

Hata hivyo, wale waliouliwa na hawakuwa na makosa, kwa maoni yangu wanafaa kupewa ridhaa. Kisa cha msichana ambaye alikufa akiwa katika jela ni ambacho tulisema hakifai kurudiwa. Tulipokuwa tukiongelea maneno ya Ojwang’ - nasikia alikuwa mtoto wa Chief katika eneo hilo. Alipelekwa ndani katika kituo cha polisi halafu akatoka akiwa ameaga.

Hatuwezi kuunga hiyo mkono. Nimeskia viongozi wakisema mambo mengi. Nimesikia wengine wakisema hata watu wapigwe risasi. Wakati tulikiwa tunatembea katika nchi wakati wa kuomba kura, sote tulikuwa tunaongea lugha moja. Walakini, nimekuja kujua binadamu ni kama mihogo. Maganda yanafanana lakini ladha ni tofauti kabisa. Nasema hivyo kwa sababu inapofika mahali ambapo tunafaa kuongea maneno

ambayo tunajua ni dhuluma na hujuama, tunakwepa kuongea hilo kwa sababu tunafaa tukae kama Wakenya na tuongee mambo yote.

Bw. Spika wa Muda, siku hizi katika uongozi, nimekuja kujua kwamba sio kila kikombe ni cha chai. Sio kila tabasamu lina maana njema. Siku hizi, hata sumu inakuja na harufu ya maua. Ndio unaona leo, tunapoongea mazuri ambayo yanafaa yafanywe na kuongea wazi wazi yale mambo ambayo yanafanywa, wengine tutakuwa wabaya. Hata hivyo, baada ya wiki moja inzi lazima akufe. Kama inzi lazima akufe, afadhali kukufia kwa nyama kuliko kukufia kwa choo. Kwa hivyo, ni vizuri kuwa katika kumbukumbu na kukaa ukiongea maneno ambayo unajua kwa kweli inalingana na Katiba na watu wako katika upande wako.

Kila mtu anaelewa haya maneno tunayoongea kwa sababu tumekuwa katika hii Kenya. Sio lazima uonje bahari nzima ndio ujue iko na chumvi. Tunajua kuna wale wakora walioharibu mali, kuna watoto walikufa ambao hawakuwa na hatia na tunajua wale ambao tunafaa kuadhibu ama kunafaa kuwafanyia namna gani.

Tusiwe watu wakuongea maneno yasiyo maana kwa sababu wakati mwingine tunanonekama ni kama hatujui kile tunafanya. Ukumbuke kwamba unaweza kuwa kiongozi lakini nyani ni nyani, hata akivaa suti ni nyani kwa mwenye alimshonea suti. Kwa hivyo, ukichaguliwa na mienendo yako ni mbaya na unaongea mambo ambayao hayafai, utaonekana hivyo.

Mungu yuko na ukawaida ya kuinua watu ambao hawana lolote mbele ya watu ambao hawaamini chochote kwa sababu Mungu ni wetu sisi sote. Wakati utafika. Kwa hivyo, ni vizuri tuzingatie, tuongee na tusaidie wale ambao wanaumia. Tuchunge sana tusiumize wale ambao wanazikana kwa sababu haya mauti yatatukumba sisi sote. Hata mimi ninajua kuna mti ambao unakua mahali wa kutengeneza geneza langu. Sisi sote tunafaa kujua hivyo. Sisi sote ni watarajiwa katika---

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Wakili Sigei)

Hon. Senators, that sums up the comments. In order to conclude on the business of the House, I will re-arrange the Order Paper and call out Order No.20.

Clerk, call out Order No.20.

BILL

Second Reading

THE TECHNOPOLIS BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILL NO.6 OF 2024)

Hon. Senators, when the House last rose, Sen. Osotsi was on the Floor. You have seven minutes to conclude in seconding this particular Bill.

Sen. Osotsi, proceed.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I stopped at the point where I was saying that there are some provisions in this Bill which are quite unique. They are not consistent with the international norms on Technopolis. I said, for example, the definition of the technopolis, particularly the Konza Technopolis, is defined as just a number of hectares. That is not proper, it is not progressive and is very limiting.

We know of Technopolises across the world. We know of Silicon Valley, we know of Silicon Forest, we know of Gurugram in India and all these are not limited by the number of hectares they sit on. They are limited by ideas, not the amount of space they sit on. So, we will be starting on the wrong footing, as a country, if we try to limit Technopolis based on geographical sites that they occupy. It will be very important to amend, so that we do not set a wrong precedent on that.

I was also concerned about the functions of the authority where the authority has been given the function to allocate land. That cannot be the function of the authority.

We have institutions which do that in this country. We have the National Land Commission (NLC) and the Ministry of Land. Can they be allowed to do that? We have started hearing concerns that some unscrupulous land operators have already descended in Konza City and are buying land in preparation for all this.

This Bill has also to look at the seven elements of a Technopolis. It has only captured Government and large companies. For us to have a proper Technopolis, we need to have a university. All Technopolis across the world have a university located within the Technopolis. This Bill does not talk about that. Research institutions do not talk about that.

The Bill is also limiting as it is only talks about large technology companies. We also need to provide opportunities for youth who can set up small tech companies to be housed there.

So, there is a lot that needs to be done to this Bill. As a Member who is very conversant with Technopolis, I will be proposing amendments to this Bill to align it with international standards and create value for Kenyans in this Bill.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I second.

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Wakili Sigei)

Now, hon. Senators, I propose the

question.

Hon. Senators, you can now debate the Bill. I will allow Sen. Samson Cherarkey to make his contributions.

Sen. Cherarkey

Thank you Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I thank the Mover of the Bill. I also thank the seconder, the Deputy Party Leader of the Orange Democratic Movement (ODM) party and my neighbour, Sen. Osotsi. He also serves as the Chairperson of the County Special Funds and Investment Committee. I was excited to listen to most of his insights yesterday since he started seconding because this industry is his forte. I am happy that he has given a conspectus of what should really happen in technopolis.

Sen. Cherarkey

As you are aware, when we were in Form One, we were being told the definition of biology or chemistry. The word "technopolis" refers to an urban place, similar to Silicon Valley in the United States of America (USA), where technopreneurs are based. It is an area of innovation and technology and, therefore, it is very critical.

I agree that as the world evolves and as we talk about technology, we are still slightly behind in Kenya. I saw that even companies like Meta and other major companies are now moving toward artificial intelligence. It is a moving target.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, I know you are a bit senior and may have watched the movie called, “Hard Target”. The story of that movie is about a gentleman who always wanted to use one bullet, but would miss the target. That is why it is called Hard Target.

I know the Generation Z and the rest may not know what movie Hard Target is. I do not think the current types of movies on Netflix, Amazon or YouTube captures that. I know you are a busy man, but I advise that should you find time, watch that movie. It is a very interesting one.

I want to relate this to technology. In technology, what is relevant in the morning, as Sen. Osotsi will tell you, has become obsolete by evening. So, we must keep pace. I remember there was an issue regarding elections and you were very instrumental during the United Democratic Alliance (UDA) nominations process. You also served as an election agent and were among those signing the charter during the engagement with the current President. In that context, we were arguing about the role of technology in our elections. Technology will control our lives.

What surprises me is that when you go to other countries, they are now resorting to the use of paper, especially when you travel. I know your members from the Table Office are conversant with that because we normally travel together with the secretariat. I can see they are smiling. I do not know whether it is true or false. They are aware since I was once a Chair. When you go to America and other established countries, they are now retreating and using paper. They no longer fear technology because it is vulnerable to cyberattacks.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, you have practised law long enough in this country. You will recall the substratum of the conversation within the election petition of Hon. Raila Odinga in 2017 was about the servers and we were being told that people in France were yet to wake up.

I am happy that in this Bill, we are creating our own store. Let me use the word store, so that Kenyans can understand. We are creating our own hub, so that we do not need to outsource. In fact, as we talk today, the issue of e-Citizen and the use of cards in banks is becoming a serious digital economy. Therefore, regulation and legislation on digital economy are very important.

I thank His Excellency the President because he has been instrumental in the establishment of digital hubs in 290 constituencies. That will bring a revolution in terms of the digital economy. The laying of fibre optic across the country will ensure that Kenya, alongside South Africa and Nigeria, becomes one of the greatest hubs in the entire Africa. These 290 digital hubs that His Excellency President William Ruto is pushing to be established everywhere should and must be welcomed by each and every person.

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Wakili Sigei)

Sen. Cherarkey, it is 6.30 p.m. When the House resumes tomorrow, you will have your 15 minutes remaining to conclude your contribution.

ADJOURNMENT

Hon. Senators, it is now 6.30 p.m., time to adjourn the Senate. The Senate, therefore, stands adjourned until tomorrow, Thursday, 24th of July, 2025, at 2.30 p.m.

The Senate rose at 6.30 p.m.

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