Yusuf Haji

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We seem not to have any other option, so Tuesday will be okay.

Sen. Chelule, is it on this point? Can I hear you?

(Bill deferred)Very well, it is so ordered. Second Reading

I think I will let the matter rest there because I have given a satisfactory answer to Sen. Chelule. There are no more Statements so we will go to the next Order. September 29th , 2015 SENATE DEBATES THE PETITION TO COUNTY ASSEMBLIES (PROCEDURE) BILL (SENATE BILL NO.35 OF 2014)

This matter is coming for Division and so is the matter on Order No.9. If we have a quorum, we are going to vote on them in one division. The Division Bell will now be rung for five minutes. Could the Division Bell be rung for five minutes? (The Division...

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I rise under Standing Order No. 54 (3) . After the Division Bell has been rung, we do not have the requisite numbers. I request that we defer the putting of the Question for Order No. 8 and Order No.9 to a day of your direction.

On a point of order, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I also want to seek a clarification. Well, my apologies, I was seeking a clarification. Maybe I pressed the wrong button. After a long recess, one is bound to forget the numbers.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, as the Chairman of this Committee responds, we should know why the issue of identity cards keeps on coming up every now and then. It is not the ideas per se which cause problems but discrimination in the issuance of identity cards where some areas feel...

There was a Statement from the Committee on Health on the selection and placement of students in medical training centres. Is Sen. Kittony here? Sen. (Prof.) Lesan and Sen. (Dr.) Machage are here and they are Members of that Committee. The Statement is here but the Senator has gone out;...

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.45

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to give notice of the following Motion. THAT, this House adopts the Report on the assessment of security situation in Mandera County, Laikipia County, Kapedo border town of Turkana APPROVAL OF CASH DISBURSEMENT SCHEDULE TO COUNTY GOVERNMENTS FOR 2015/2016 FINANCIAL YEAR

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have two statements to issue. However, the Senators who requested for them are not here. One was requested by Sen. Musila and the other one by Sen. Munyes. Therefore, I do not know whether I should issue them now or we wait until after recess.

You are requesting who? Because this screen has been very clear, and it is only now that you are attempting to indicate that interest. I am afraid it is coming too late. The debate has been closed. Proceed, Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki!

I am really sympathetic Sen. Haji, but my hands are tied. Maybe if I had acknowledged you before the Mover replied, I would have easily

Order, Senators. I hope that you are within the building.

Senators, you have a maximum of three minutes to contribute. Sen. (Prof.) Lonyangapuo.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table of the Senate today, Wednesday 29th July, 2015:- Report on the assessment of security situation in Mandera County, Laikipia County and Kapedo (Border town of Turkana and Baringo Counties) conducted between 19th January and 5th February, 2015....

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I apologise, both to the House and my brother, Sen. Musila, for not giving a response today. I got a response which was very unsatisfactory because it did not address the issues that were raised by Sen. Musila. Our subsequent discussions with the Cabinet Secretary (CS) were...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I agree with the sentiments of Sen. Musila. We expected a better response than what I have. I will endeavour, once again, to press the CS to make the response available for me to read here on Thursday, this week.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, Sen. Obure requested for a response to a Statement regarding the death of Corporal Bernard Okindo Mageto who was allegedly found dead at his station of duty on Friday, 19th June, 2015. The hon. Member particularly sought to be informed on:-

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I wish to read the statement as follows: On 19th June, 2015, at 2.00 a.m., the Marani Sub-County District Administration Police Commandant (DAPC) Superintendent John Manyara reported to the Divisional Criminal Investigation Officer (DCIO) of a shooting incident at Kegogi Administration Police (AP) Camp involving No.2008108218 AP...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, the observations made by the Senators who have spoken are legitimate. But I would not like to speculate as to how the bullet went to the roof. It is unfortunate that the officers who investigated this case have the feeling that it as a case of suicide....

Mr. Speaker, Sir, we will communicate the same to the authority concerned, so that if it is possible, independent investigations can be done, notwithstanding the investigation which is being done by the police station. We shall communicate the same to the Government. CRITERIA FOR APPOINTMENT/REGIONAL DISTRIBUTION OF APPOINTMENT TO PARASTATALS

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I think the statement that was read by the Vice Chairperson states that over 37,000 drugs for treatment of malaria have been sent to Vihiga and Kakamega counties despite the fact that the population is about 600,000. It is not possible that all those people will suffer...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am sorry. I thought that you confused her with me. (Laughter)

Mr. Speaker, Sir, many a times we have been lamenting about lack of response to statements requests by the Cabinet Secretary, but I think we are the worst enemies of ourselves. Nowadays, Committees are not able to work efficiently because Members are serving more than three or four Committees. Therefore,...

Order, Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. More in what respect?

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Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. It is true that Sen. Murungi was not satisfied with the statement which was given last week. As a result of that, and following, your ruling, my Vice Chairperson and I visited the Cabinet Secretary (CS) for the Ministry of Interior and Coordination of National...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, the question of boundary disputes is raging all over the country. As a result of that, the Cabinet Secretary has decided to form a taskforce which will go to all these areas and recommend solutions. As soon as the Cabinet Secretary establishes a taskforce which is already...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I said that he is in the process of forming a taskforce and as soon as he completes, he will take it to the Cabinet Security Committee which will approve it. I said after the approval, that is when they will embark on the work.

As soon as possible, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, the dispute is between Isiolo County and Meru counties. It is true that Meru County is prepared to allocate money for the surveyors to do the work, but unfortunately for unknown reasons, Isiolo County is not willing. It is as a result of that, that after our...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, from the discussions that we had with the Cabinet Secretary, I want to assure Sen. Murungi that the matter at hand is being handled through a taskforce that was formed. It is very difficult to resist a request of somebody like my friend, Sen. Murungi. However, to...

Yes, Mr. Speaker, Sir, then, you ordered so. Mr. Speaker, Sir, to answer Sen. Karaba and Sen. Mositet, after the formation of the taskforce, the dispute about boundaries all over the country will be resolved when we meet. There is no discussion between me and Sen. Murungi regarding the matter....

Mr. Speaker, Sir,

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Mr. Speaker, Sir, I think what we are dealing here with is hearsay. According to the KWS, when the three were confronted there was an exchange of fire. In the process, unfortunately, two of them died. A magazine with bullets was recovered and one of the poachers ran away. We...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, without the Senators asking and Sen. Obure is my witness; we summoned the Director of KWS and raised this issue with him this morning. In future, instead of us directing this kind of request for a statement to the Cabinet Secretary, Ministry of Internal Security and Coordination...

I have very many of them to respond to but I have a sore throat.

Sen. Murungi is not here.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, Sen. (Prof.) John Lonyangapuo requested for a statement regarding the issue of security along the Turkana and West Pokot county borders. The Senator wants to know;

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I apologize if that is the case. But I can, perhaps, guess that the Ministry is overwhelmed with so many other assignments and statements. There might have been an oversight. Since things are now moving on very well, I want to apologize to my brother.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, actually I only want to say that it is very encouraging to hear both leaders talking of peace in the area. His suggestion is very good and I hope that we will sit with my friend, the Senator for West Pokot, and do whatever is necessary. I...

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