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Sen. Karaba Mr. Speaker, Sir, I had a statement to issue to the Senate but the person who requested for it is not here. Could I go ahead?

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Sen. Karaba Madam Temporary Speaker, education is no longer a luxury because for most employment opportunities right now, the minimum qualification is a degree. It is no longer a Form Four certificate as it used to be. Even to be a teller in the bank, that is issuing money and...

Sen. Karaba Your time is up, Senator!

Sen. Karaba Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have heard. I will give the answer in two weeks’ time.

Sen. Karaba Mr. Speaker, Sir, these problems have far-reaching consequences. That is why we need two weeks. Exams may be done after the problem has been solved.

Sen. Karaba Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for the answer that has been given by my friend, the Senator for Trans Nzoia. In his answer, he says that the factory was to be established in the Financial Year 2013/2014. I believe that is not true because it was to start...

Sen. Karaba Mr. Speaker, Sir, the problem here is that we are not getting specifics of what will happen in the Financial Year 2015/2016. The construction works were supposed to have started in the Financial Year 2014/2015. Indeed, some construction work had already begun. However, the delay which was occasioned...

Sen. Karaba Mr. Speaker, Sir, what transpired between the Senator for Meru and the Chairman of the Committee leaves some of us more confused than before. We are yet to find out whether when we have similar problems we need to sort it out between ourselves or it is something...

Sen. Karaba On a point of , Mr. Speaker, Sir. I think it is important to note that many times when we have Statements here and attack the Government, we should also be mindful of what has happened since the Jubilee Government took over. I am sure that in South...

Sen. Karaba Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I think many nations are taking Kenyans for granted and more so as a country. When it comes to issuance of visas to other countries, may be it is only Kenya which is suffering but not the foreigners coming to Kenya. To get a...

Sen. Karaba Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, but it takes too long.

Sen. Karaba Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, it is that processing that we are wondering why it should be done in South Africa.

Sen. Karaba Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. Sitting here this afternoon and listening to my colleagues, has been worthwhile, as it shows a good grasp of such a technical issue. I take this opportunity to thank Sen. Leshore for this timely Motion. However, in view of what the Senator for...

Sen. Karaba Mr. Speaker, Sir, road construction works in Kenya leaves a lot to be desired. This issue does not affect this road only. Many roads in Kenya have been done to substandard level. Potholes develop even before the roads are completed. Worse still, even after completion, the contractors leave...

Sen. Karaba On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. The Chairperson is telling us that even the answer that she gave us is substandard. Could she be given more time to go and get us appropriate answers?

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Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for giving me an opportunity to contribute to this Bill. First and foremost, I wish to congratulate the Mover of the Bill because he has tabled a very important Bill that not only ensures that devolution succeeds, but also confirms that we are truly...

I now call upon the Mover to reply.

Thank you Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I take this opportunity to appreciate and thank my colleagues for the very wonderful and rich discussion on this very important Bill. I thank each of them in person. I have listened to every speaker even when I was not in the Chamber, I...

Well done, Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I rise under Standing Order No. 54 (3) and note that we are very few in the Chamber at this time. Pursuant to that Standing Order, I request that you consider deferring the putting of the Question until tomorrow.

Your request has been heard and I defer putting the Question to Wednesday, 15th July, 2015 when we hope to have the numbers. (Putting of the Question on the Bill deferred) Next Order! Second Readings THE UNIVERSITIES (AMENDMENT) BILL (SENATE BILL NO.31 OF 2014) THE PETITION TO COUNTY ASSEMBLIES (PROCEDURE)...

Hon. Senators, it is now time to interrupt the business of the Senate. The Senate stands adjourned until tomorrow, Thursday 9th July, 2015 at 2.30 p.m. The Senate rose at 6.30 p.m.

Sen. Karaba Mr. Speaker, Sir, I also join my colleague, Senators, to appreciate the good work done by Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale. I have been imploring him that the books of accounts of those counties which have not been audited be fast-tracked so that we know their fate. I did not...

Sen. Karaba Mr. Speaker, Sir, the Cabinet Secretary, Ministry of Education and the Vice Chancellor of the affected university are still working on the Statement from Sen. Madzayo, whom I have already talked to. We have continued to receive Statements and I thought this was one of them. We are...

Sen. Karaba Mr. Speaker, Sir, we are making arrangements today. We are thinking that in two weeks time, the Cabinet Secretary will be in this august House.

Sen. Karaba Mr. Speaker, Sir, I will try to persuade him to come within that week. We have also learnt psychology; it is true that this is not a document which is pertaining to the question. It is something else.

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Sen. Karaba Order, Sen. Karaba! The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Wetangula) : Point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. (Laughter)

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Sen. Karaba Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. The Chairperson of the Committee on Education has been repeating these answers for the last few weeks, regarding the safety and security of students and teachers in the north eastern region. The Chairperson has repeated his usual statement that security will be...

Thank you, Sen. Karaba. Please, proceed Sen. Obure.

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I thank the Chairperson for those clarifications. As you have heard, the Chairperson of the Committee on Education has said that there are a number of students who have given a firm indication that they do not wish to go back to Garissa TTC...

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. The Chairperson of the Committee on Education has been repeating these answers for the last few weeks, regarding the safety and security of students and teachers in the north eastern region. The Chairperson has repeated his usual statement that security will be provided. The...

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I raised a similar matter to Sen. Billow’s. First, you heard the Chairperson say that they have advised people to July 1st, 2015 SENATE DEBATES

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I support my friends. I do not believe that we have realised the gravity of the closure of the schools in north eastern region. The cause of Al Shabaab is being enhanced by the closure of those institutions. The real determination of how to...

Chairperson of the Committee, do you have the same feeling that we may not get sufficient answers and that we may need the Cabinet Secretary to come and be interrogated by the House? Sen. Karaba Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, exactly. I was also thinking that we should have the Cabinet...

The reason I asked you is because there is so much interest in this issue and I like your candidness. If you seriously feel that there are some areas that you are unable to delve into, then Sen. Kagwe’s proposal might be the best way out. Let us have the...

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. The issue of education in the northern part of Kenya is not given the serious attention that it requires. A generation of young people has now lost completely in education in the country. July 1st, 2015 SENATE DEBATES

Order, Sen. Haji! Your private discussions with Sen. Karaba were just that.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I will leave it, but I have made my point. The Government should not pass the buck. It is its responsibility to make sure that all Kenyans wherever they are, are given security. As Sen. Kagwe said, we are playing into the hands of Al Shabaab...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, surely, there is a serious crisis in the education system in the north eastern part of Kenya. I support what my former Chairperson has indicated. I would like to also urge that we call both the Cabinet Secretaries for Education and the Minister in charge of...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, this is a very sad issue. I hope and I am praying that the teachers who decided not to go back to north eastern part of Kenya are not, at the moment, earning a salary. It would be very sad if they are earning a salary...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, most of the issues that I wanted to raise have been raised by my colleagues. When this attack happened, the first call that I got was from an international caller. That tells you how widely it was covered both nationally and internationally. The whole community, globally,...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, it is a very serious matter that some students in this country are not going to school because of attacks by criminals. What is the effect of that? Al Shabaab are considering themselves winners because they have managed to stop the entire education system in the...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I would like to believe that the Chairperson of the Education Committee has listened to you carefully with the appeal that we have the two Cabinet Secretaries to address this issue, especially so, on the way forward in the north eastern part of Kenya. Two days...

Sen. Obure, do you want to add to this?

Yes, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir.

One minute, please.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I was initially worried about the few students who have not gone back. However, much more fundamental issues have emerged; the fact that all learning institutions in the north eastern counties are closed. This is a very serious matter. We are denying children their fundamental right....

Thank you, Senators. Sen. Karaba, you are the Chairman of the Committee. Sen. Karaba Yes, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Leshore, you have made your request rather late.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I also want to add my voice to this very grave issue happening in north eastern Kenya. However, this is not only affecting north eastern Kenya but also Baragoi which is in my county. Three secondary schools have been closed down because of cattle rustling. I...

Sen. Karaba Are you talking about “d’?

Sen. Karaba Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, thank you for allowing me to contribute to---

Sen. Karaba Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I was given a temporary card here because mine got lost sometimes ago. I was wondering why it is not working---

Sen. Karaba Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, it has never worked because I think the system is faulty.

Sen. Karaba Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I was going to say that petitions of any kind coming to this House should be listened to. This is because we have not had time to tell our people in the counties what kind of petitions are supposed to be brought...

Sen. Karaba Yes, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I have an answer for him. You realize that the response was given sometimes back and there were some supplementary questions that the Senator wanted to know but I did not know exactly which areas he wanted me to respond to because I...

Sen. Karaba It was supposed to be a further Statement---

Sen. Karaba I am trying to find out from Sen. Obure what he really wanted because I had given him this answer.

Sen. Karaba That is okay because she is even here.

Sen. Karaba Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I have a Statement on the Government policy on payment of part-time lecturers. June 30th, 2015 SENATE DEBATES June 30th, 2015 SENATE DEBATES

Sen. Karaba Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I am yet to look at that list but as stipulated there before, every university has its own rules and laws to follow, so the universities that the Senator is citing here could be those that are not known. So I would advise the...

Sen. Karaba I will do that soonest.

Sen. Karaba Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, it can start from tomorrow because this is a very serious matter–

Sen. Karaba Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, by next week Thursday, I will make sure that the answer is given.

Sen. Karaba Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I will find out why they have not paid part- time lecturers their dues. DEPRECIATION OF THE KENYA SHILLING AGAINST OTHER MAJOR CURRENCIES

Sen. Karaba Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, this is a straightforward matter.

Sen. Karaba There is no problem with Tuesday next week.

Sen. Karaba On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. While I agree to undertake the concerns of some unpaid lecturers from various campuses---

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Sen. Karaba Mr. Speaker, Sir, following the successful tabling of the Report on the Petition which came through me from Mwea rice farmers by the Vice-Chair of the Committee on Agriculture, Sen. Ndiema, I rise to thank him and the Committee for doing a very good job. I am happy...

Sen. Karaba Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table of the Senate:- Reports of the Standing Committee on Education on:-

Sen. Karaba Mr. Speaker, Sir, I will respond in two weeks’ time.

Sen. Karaba Mr. Speaker, Sir, I want to issue a Statement and also seek another one from the Minister for Agriculture.

Sen. Karaba I rise to seek a Statement from the Chairperson of the Standing Committee on Agriculture, Livestock and Fisheries regarding the construction of the proposed Gatitu-Nyayo Tea Factory in Kirinyaga East, sub-county of Kirinyaga County. In the Statement, the Chairperson should address the following:-

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Sen. Karaba Mr. Speaker, Sir, this is the Statement on the predicament of students of Garissa Teachers Training College that was asked by Sen. Obure. Pursuant to Standing Order No.45 (b) , Sen. Obure requested for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Standing Committee on Education regarding the predicament...

Sen. Karaba Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like to clarify. The question which I was attempting to answer was not about Garissa University College. It was about Garissa Teachers Training College (TTC) which is different from Garissa University College. So, majority of Members who talked about the university were, therefore,...

Sen. Karaba Mr. Speaker, Sir, the first concern was about badges. The use of badges is one of the many other measures that the university colleges have taken to ensure that those who operate in and out of the colleges are identified. I think that is a normal practice. Even...

Mr. Karaba Mr. Chairman, Sir, I think that I had addressed that concern in my Statement. I told the House that if 44 students reported when they were opening two weeks ago, and now we are in the second week and there are 343 students. Given that trend, therefore, it...

Sen. Karaba Mr. Speaker, Sir, I also stand with regard to the matter of roads, particularly Thika Road which was recently constructed by the Chinese. I am not sure whether the Certificate of Completion has been issued to the Government. Similar problems are there and what they are now doing...