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Sen. Melly Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, thank you for giving me this opportunity to share a few remarks as we come to the end of this Senate. This is one of the Houses that has had a number of challenges. When I try to see the far that we have...

Sen. Melly Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I join my colleagues in congratulating this Third Senate. It has been a privilege because we have 45 million Kenyans or so.

Hon. Melly Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. I rise to support this Bill. This Bill is very timely in the sense that the Police Service in this country is the cornerstone of our development and prosperity as a nation. The policemen that we have sacrifice their lives and the...

Hon. Melly Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. I rise to support this Bill. This Bill is very timely in the sense that the Police Service in this country is the cornerstone of our development and prosperity as a nation. The policemen that we have sacrifice their lives and the...

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Hon. Melly Yes. Hon. MellyThe Temporary Deputy Chairman (Hon. Cheboi): Okay. THE COUNTY EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION BILL Hon. Melly

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Hon. Melly Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman, I beg to move a further amendment. The Temporary Deputy Chairman (Hon. Cheboi) : You cannot be proposing a further amendment. If that is the case, we do not have it here. What is the case as far as I am concerned is that...

Hon. MellyHon. Temporary Deputy Chairman, we are proposing that Clause 19 of the Bill be deleted.It is a typo because it is not indicating the substitution. The Temporary Deputy Chairman(Hon. Cheboi): That makes it clearer.(Question, that the words to be left out be left out, put and agreed to)(Clause 19...

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Hon. Melly Temporary Deputy Chairman, I beg to move: THAT Clause 28 of the Bill be amended—

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Hon. Melly Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy. I beg to move: THAT Clause 31 of the Bill be amended— Hon. Melly

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Hon. Melly Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move: - THAT, Clause 44 of the Bill be amended— Hon. Melly Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move: - THAT, Clause 46 of the Bill be amended—

Hon. Melly Let me make it clear for the Member that we are actually trying to bring clarity. The provision is a repetition of sub-clause (1) . Earlier on, we carried out amendments to ensure that no other bodies are involved in curriculum review and development apart from the KICD....

Hon. Melly Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady. The original Bill proposed by the Senate was allowing CECs and even their boards to impose some fees. In this case, and Hon. Okoth, who is a high-ranking Member of this Committee, was aware of this fact, we indicated that we want...

Hon. Melly Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady. We are deterring them, but we are not expressly telling them not to charge.

Hon. Melly Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady. First of all, I want the Members to read this Bill because we are against tuition charges. The Bill is very clear in Clause 48 (a) (2A) that if head teachers are to run schools, parents will have to pay for trips...

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Hon. Melly Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady. I have listened to the Hon. Member’s contributions and fears. First of all, the intention of this Bill was to ensure that ECD is accessible to all Kenyans. But looking at the sanctions, they are opening up a loophole. I wish to...

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Hon. Melly I propose that we further amend that particular clause. It shall be read together with Clause 48.

Hon. Melly Yes, let us suspend Clause 50.

Hon. Melly Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady, it is not the tuition that we know in this country where children go back to school outside the dates provided in the school calendar. It is the normal learning. When you talk about tuition in this case, it is the payment of fees...

Hon. Melly What clause is that?

Hon. Melly Yes, that is why we have said we are not looking at it. We will consider it together with Clause 48. I have seen a lot of variance in that particular clause.

Hon. Melly It is wrong.

Hon. Melly I can withdraw the amendment to Clause 50.

Hon. Melly I withdraw the amendment to Clause 50. (Proposed amendment to Clause 50 withdrawn) (Clause 50 agreed to) Hon. MellyClause 51 Hon. Melly

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Hon. Melly Yes. New Clause 61A caters for deletion. An expired, revoked or void certificate is not supposed to be operationalised by law. Keeping it with the CEB will not be of essence. New Clause 61A caters for the deletion. (Question, that the words to be left out be left...

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Hon. Melly Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady. I want to inform the Hon. Member that the power to make regulations or to set standards across counties should be vested in the CS. It does not mean that the CS will do it alone. What we are trying to indicate...

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Hon. Melly Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady. The main reason we have this is to have a logical flow after Clause 20. You will realize that there are no structures. Every education sector or component must have structures for the management and administration of education centres. Earlier on, you...

Hon. Melly That is the CEC member in charge of education. He or she should know the number of pupils and children in all ECDs in the country. It is not sending to the board, but the CEC in charge of education. He needs to understand how many pupils are...

Hon. Melly New Clause 21A (g) is meant to ensure that the CEC member in consultation with the County Executive Board may consider the requirements that are necessary for the delivery of quality education. That section is giving a discretionary role that a Member can be-- This one is not...

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Hon. Melly I concur with him. There is some correction. It is something that was inadvertently written.

Hon. Melly No. In this case, let me go over it again. The term “children with disabilities” is no longer used in the human rights field. The term now acceptable is “children with special needs”. So, you have realized that the Bill is reading: “The definition of the term “children...

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Hon. Melly The ECDE children do not go beyond six years.

Hon. Melly At times they go beyond.

Hon. Melly We cannot. Maybe, that is the problem.

Hon. Melly Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady. The Committee’s feelings or reasoning behind all this is that we want to know what group of children is in early childhood education. We know very well that we have an age bracket for children in the primary and secondary education. So,...

Hon. MellyThey should be allowed.

Hon. Melly Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady. I have got the gist of the matter from the concerned Members. From that, I would wish to propose a further amendment on the definition of a pupil: “A pupil means a person who meets the criteria for admission to an early...

Hon. Melly We do not lock anyone out. Thank you.

Hon. MellyThank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady. I wish to withdraw the definition of “pupil” as indicated in the Order Paper and substitute it with this new definition:“A pupil means a person who meets the criteria for admission to an early education centre.”(Question, that the words to be left out...

Hon. Melly Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady, I beg to move that the Committee doth report to the House its consideration of the County Early Childhood Education Bill (Senate Bill No. 32 of 2015) and its approval thereof with amendments. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) (The House resumed) (The...

Hon. Melly Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to move that the House doth agree with the Committee in the said report. I request Hon. Gikaria to second.

Hon. Melly Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said Report. I request the Member for Saku to second.

Hon. Melly Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to move that the County Early Childhood Education Bill (Senate Bill No. 32 of 2015) be read a Third time. I request the Member for Kajiado North to second.

Hon. Melly Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said Report. I also agree that the Motion ---

Hon. Melly I request the Member for Kajiado North to second the Motion for agreement with the Report of the Committee of the whole House.

Hon. Melly Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I rise to support the list. I thank the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs and the President, more so in appointing these great men and women of Kenya. Hon. Speaker, I want to thank the President because if you look at the...

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Hon. Melly Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman. I support the dropping of that sub-clause on quality assurance. The Temporary Deputy Chairman (Hon. Cheboi) : Hon. Melly, the only reason why I am giving you, among others, a chance is so that you can address the concerns of Hon. Millie...

Hon. Melly Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman. I support the proposal by Hon. Ichung’wah. As stipulated currently, offering degrees, diplomas and certificates has been a problem because there is no proper legislation or regulation. This one is very clear. Currently, we have a number of students in various universities...

Hon. Melly Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady. I rise to oppose the proposal by the Bomet County Women Representative in the sense that this is the Universities (Amendment) Bill. We have the TIVET Authority that is supposed to deal with issues concerning tertiary institutions. In my consideration, this amendment...

Hon. Melly Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady. I rise to support the amendments by the Chairlady that the Vice-Chairperson shall be of opposite gender. I oppose the Leader of the Majority Party in the sense that we want to ensure that the gender rule is implemented as soon as...

Hon. Melly Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady, I beg to move that the Committee doth report to the House it consideration of the Universities (Amendment) Bill, National Assembly Bill No.66 of 2015 and its approval thereof with amendments. (Question put and agreed to) (The House resumed) [The Temporary Deputy Speaker (Hon....

Hon. Melly Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman. I support the dropping of that sub-clause on quality assurance. The Temporary Deputy Chairman (Hon. Cheboi) : Hon. Melly, the only reason why I am giving you, among others, a chance is so that you can address the concerns of Hon. Millie...

Hon. Melly Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman. I support the proposal by Hon. Ichung’wah. As stipulated currently, offering degrees, diplomas and certificates has been a problem because there is no proper legislation or regulation. This one is very clear. Currently, we have a number of students in various universities...

Hon. Melly Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady. I rise to oppose the proposal by the Bomet County Women Representative in the sense that this is the Universities (Amendment) Bill. We have the TIVET Authority that is supposed to deal with issues concerning tertiary institutions. In my consideration, this amendment...

Hon. Melly Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady. I rise to support the amendments by the Chairlady that the Vice-Chairperson shall be of opposite gender. I oppose the Leader of the Majority Party in the sense that we want to ensure that the gender rule is implemented as soon as...

Hon. Melly Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady, I beg to move that the Committee doth report to the House it consideration of the Universities (Amendment) Bill, National Assembly Bill No.66 of 2015 and its approval thereof with amendments. (Question put and agreed to) (The House resumed) [The Temporary Deputy Speaker (Hon....

Sen. Melly Mr. Speaker, Sir, a minute is not enough but I will try. I want to point out two issues. First, the public is watching. It is now very clear who is promoting corruption in this country. It is saddening and unfortunate that this Committee of the Senate having...

Hon. Melly Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I rise to support the Petition. It is very timely in the sense that the land question has been a major issue in our country for quite some time. Counties in the Coast, Eastern, Rift Valley and most parts of this country have...

Hon. Melly Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. I rise to support this Bill. The County Early Childhood Education Bill (Senate Bill No.23) is very important because it is trying to streamline the early childhood education sector. This sector has been disorderly due to lack of a legal framework to...

Sen. Melly Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. Allow me to also join my colleagues in congratulating the lecturers and the students of the School of Education from Eldoret University for having time to come to the Senate and learn a few things. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I want to...