Amason Jeffah Kingi

Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) I am informed that we do have quorum now. We shall proceed with todays’ business. Clerk, kindly proceed to call the first Order. Sen. Orwoba...

Chairperson of the Standing Committee on Justice, Legal Affairs and Human Rights, proceed. That Report is dropped. REPORT ON THE HOUSES OF PARLIAMENT (BICAMERAL RELATIONS) BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.44 OF 2024) QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS STATEMENTS POLICE HARASSMENT OF TUK TUK AND BODA BODA OPERATORS IN KAKAMEGA TOWN

Is Sen. Mwaruma here? STATUS OF DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS IN TAITA-TAVETA COUNTY SAFETY AND HYGIENE MEASURES AHEAD OF RE-OPENING OF LEARNING INSTITUTIONS

The Chairperson Justice, Legal affairs and Human Rights Committee (JLAHC) , having explained your absence to the satisfaction of the Chair, I vacate my earlier orders and allow you to proceed to table your Paper. (Interruption of Statements) PAPER LAID REPORT ON THE HOUSES OF PARLIAMENT (BICAMERAL RELATIONS) BILL (NATIONAL...

Thank you, Hon. Senator. Before we proceed to the next Order, or before I allow limited comments on the statements that have been sought, allow me to make the following Communication. (Sen. Methu shook hands with Sen. Gataya Mo Fire) Senator for Nyandarua, you may do that after the session...

Hon. Senators, we will allow limited comments on the statements that have been sought, starting with Sen. Maanzo. (Resumption of Statements)

Hon. Maanzo, though we have already committed that Petition to the relevant Committee, a Senator wanting to make an intervention on that Petition, you may take that opportunity when I call you up.

Proceed, Sen. Osotsi.

Senator Kathuri Murungi.

Sen. (Dr.) Oburu Oginga?

Sen. Methu.

Sen. Cherarkey, proceed.

Senator for Nandi, proceed to substantiate, failure to which, you apologise and withdraw.

Lastly, let us hear from Sen. Crystal Asige. Sen. Crystal Asige: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise in support of the Statement by the Senator for Kakamega on boda boda sector.There is no doubt that the boda boda sector in this country has and continues to contribute...

I will allow Sen. Abass, being the Chair of the Committee on Devolution and Inter-Governmental Relations, mainly to comment on the Petition, and then allow Sen. Sifuna to conclude it from there. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for the consideration. I want to talk about the deputy governors. As we...

Hon. Speaker, Sir, thank you for your indulgence. The Statement sought by the Senator for Taita-Taveta County, Sen. Mwaruma, could not have come at a better time. I hope that the Committee on Devolution and Intergovernmental Relations of this House---

Okay. I caught the tail-end of the submissions by my colleague, the Senator for Nandi County, on some of the unfortunate pronouncements we heard from the National Assembly yesterday regarding the decision by this House to award Kshs415 million to county governments. Mr. Speaker, Sir, there are things that we...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I am aware we are discussing county issues, but we still have to be guided by our Standing Orders. They are very clear about discussing a Member of Parliament (MP) , either from the Senate or National Assembly. Sen. Sifuna is imputing improper motive--- (Sen....

Mr. Speaker, Sir, protect me. I understand that we are trying to highlight on the issues of devolution, but can the hon. Senator for Nairobi City County try and make his point without discussing another Member of Parliament who is not in the House to defend himself? That is my...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I think it is Standing Order No.98. (Loud consultations) Mr. Speaker, Sir, I think it is Standing Order No.98. (Loud consultations)

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am well guided. I thought colleagues in this House would be more defensive of the decisions of this House because yesterday the entire Senate was being discussed. (Loud consultations) Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am well guided. I thought colleagues in this House would be more defensive...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, you must protect me from people who think that by rising on points of order against me, it will make them famous. I see them sharing on social media that Sen. Sifuna and so-and-so were in an exchange. You will have to find your own fame by...

Order, hon. Senators! Before I ask the Clerk to call the next Order, I have this Message to pass. MESSAGE FROM THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DECISION OF THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY ON THE SENATE AMENDMENTS TO THE DIVISION OF REVENUE BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.14 OF 2024) Hon. Senators, with limited powers...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, the nation must know that revenue is divided in Parliament. It is not divided at the Intergovernmental Budget and Economic Council (IBEC) , Karen or private residences. I am very proud of this Senate, more so, the Chairperson of the Committee on Finance and Budget together with...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, we have many Senators with spine, but not all. I hope that the Mediation Committee will stand firm for the Senate, and that they will not be intimidated by political parties and partisan politics. This is about county governments and not the Kenya Kwanza Government or Azimio...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, we watched with great disappointment yesterday as our colleagues misled the nation. Yesterday, there was something that we would like to demonstrate that did not come up clearly in the National Assembly. When they proposed that counties should get Kshs391 billion, how much did they get last...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, the time for reckoning will come and I want to be proved wrong at that time. This is the time for us to practice what we preach. If we come here and say our hospitals need medicine, we forget that the Ministry of Health has the largest...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, thank you for this opportunity to give a brief comment on this matter. Yesterday, the whole country was treated to a lot of theatrics at the National Assembly. It was very shameful for the Chairman of the Budget and Appropriation Committee and the Majority Leader to misdirect...

Asante, Bw. Spika, kwa kunipa fursa hii kuchangia taarifa kuhusiana na kukataliwa na Bunge la Kitaifa kwa marekebisho ya Mswada wa Ugawaji wa Pesa za Kaunti. Ilikuwa sarakasi kubwa katika Bunge la Kitaifa jana wakati baadhi ya Wabunge walikuwa wanakejeli kazi zinazofanywa na serikali za kaunti. Tumeona kwamba pesa zilizo...

Bw. Spika, ni aibu kubwa sana kwa Wabunge---

Asante, Bw. Spika. Ni aibu kubwa sana hapa Kenya kwa Wabunge 349 kusema kwamba magavana hawafanyi kazi, wakati tunajua kwamba hao magavana 47 wako na Maseneta wao ambao hawajasema hawafanyi kazi. Pia tumesikia MPs wengine wakisema kwamba hata Members of County Assembly (MCAs) wakipewa pesa, ipelekwe kwa NG-CDF. Tukashindwa, kazi...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I also join my colleagues in condemning the decision by the Members of the National Assembly to deny counties the monies we have requested. I take this opportunity to remind the Members of the National Assembly that their constituencies, which they like talking so much...

What is the point of order? Order, Sen. Nyutu.

Order, Sen. Nyutu! You are totally out of order. When the Chair speaks, you shut up. Can you take your seat? Give the microphone to the Senate Majority Leader.

Senate Majority Leader, you have made your point of order. You are making a speech. (Loud consultations) [The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) left the Chair] COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE [The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) left the Chair] IN THE COMMITTEE [The Chairperson (Sen. Kathuri) in the Chair] THE GAMBLING CONTROL BILL (NATIONAL...

Hon. Senators, welcome back from that very brief suspension that was due to factors that were truly beyond our control. Clerk, you may proceed to call the next order. The Chairperson, Standing Committee on Health? REPORT ON PETITION: MANAGEMENT OF KUTRRH BY KENYATTA UNIVERSITY MEDICAL STUDENTS

Proceed, Chairperson Standing Committee on Health. Sen. Mariam, are you coming to lay the Paper on behalf of the Health Committee PAPERS LAID REPORTS OF THE AUDITOR- GENERAL ON FINANCIAL STATEMENTS OF VARIOUS ENTITIES

Proceed, Chairperson Standing Committee on Health. Sen. Mariam, are you coming to lay the Paper on behalf of the Health Committee Proceed. REPORT INTO ALLEGED IRREGULARITIES IN PROCUREMENT OF LONG-LASTING INSECTICIDE TREATED NETS

(Applause) Hon. Senators, before I allow the Clerk to call the next order, allow me to make this Communication. Proceed to take your seat, Sen. Mariam. COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR VISITING DELEGATION FROM THE OFFICE OF THE SENATOR OF KITUI COUNTY (Loud consultations)

Sen. Hamida, take your seat. VISITING DELEGATION FROM THE TECHNICAL UNIVERSITY OF KENYA Hon. Senators, I would also like to acknowledge the presence in the Public Gallery this afternoon, of visiting students and student leaders from the Technical University of Kenya (TUK) in Nairobi City County. The students are in...

Proceed, Sen. Mumma.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, there is a second statement by Sen. Mumma. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Education regarding the efforts of both the national Government and the Nairobi City County government to facilitate equal access to public education...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale and group, I call you to order. Proceed, Sen. Ogola.

Statement pursuant to Standing Order No.57 (1) , the Senate Majority Leader, proceed. BUSINESS FOR THE WEEK COMMENCING TUESDAY, 14TH MAY, 2024

Next Order, Clerk. Sen. Methu, Kaunti ya Nyandarua; Sen. Mungatana, MGH, Kaunti ya Tana River; Sen. Munyi Mundigi, Kaunti ya Embu; Sen. Murgor, Kaunti ya West Pokot; Sen. Ogola, Kaunti ya Homa Bay; Sen. Olekina, Kaunti ya Narok; Sen. Omogeni, Kaunti ya Nyamira; Sen. Osotsi, Kaunti ya Vihiga; Sen. Tobiko,...

Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Order, hon. Senators! I am informed that we now have quorum. We shall proceed with todays’ business. Clerk, kindly proceed to call the first Order....

Hon. Cabinet Secretary, welcome back to the Senate. You may proceed to respond to Question No.038. The Cabinet Secretary for Interior and National Administration (Hon. (Prof.) Kithure Kindiki) : Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. With regard to the Question by the Senator for Meru County, Sen. Kathuri Murungi, I state...

Let me guide you. I am not going to gag you. Hon. Senator for Meru, you are expressing an opinion. If you look at Standing Order No.51B, which gives you the parameters of a question, it says that a question shall not--- It goes on to give many components. However,...

Hon. Cabinet Secretary. The Cabinet Secretary for Interior and National Administration (Hon. (Prof.) Kithure Kindiki) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, investigations are not concluded and the murder file on the deceased is still open. Murder files are never closed and there is no statute of limitations on murder offences. Therefore, I...

Hon. Wambua, that is not a supplementary question. It is a substantive question and, therefore, hon. Cabinet Secretary, if you are in a position to respond to it, you may proceed. If you are not, you do not have to because it is not a supplementary question as defined by...

Before the Cabinet Secretary responds, hon. Senators, do not bring in facts that you may be called upon to either prove or substantiate. The fact that some of them are relatives to the governor is not a matter in the public knowledge. I am a member of the public, but...

Proceed, Sen. Maanzo.

Criminal investigations are also complex. By the time you take someone to court, you must have good evidence, so that you do not just engage in an act of futility, where you arrest anybody who is mentioned without sufficient evidence, then they are acquitted by court.In line with the request...

No! I am afraid, hon. Senator, that I will not allow you to go that route. This is because under our Standing Orders, the only thing you can do is to ask a supplementary question related to the primary question. If you look at the Question and the response by...

Sen. Mariam, I did not say the Cabinet Secretary is in charge of agriculture. I am aware that he is in charge of Interior. I am trying to guide you. If you look at your Standing Orders, just before you, Standing Order No.51 (c) (7) (a) and (b) , you...

File a question with the Clerk, and the Cabinet Secretary will gladly respond to it.

Sen. Mariam, you are out of order. Take your seat. If you insist, I may ask you to leave the Chamber. Please, take your seat. Thank you.

Hon. Osotsi, have you gone through the primary response by the Cabinet Secretary, more particularly the last paragraph on page three?

That is one of the primary questions asked by the Senator for Meru and the written response captures that. Nevertheless, Cabinet Secretary, if you have anything to add beyond what you have already stated in your written response, you may proceed. The Cabinet Secretary for Interior and National Administration (Hon....

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I will proceed to ask Question No.001. INTER-COMMUNAL CLASHES IN SONDU TOWN

is already stationed in the area. The officers are conducting a 24-hour patrol within the affected areas.Secondly, we changed the deployment. We did transfers of all police officers from both sides who had served there for a long time because the evidence was pointing to some of them having been...

Hon. Cabinet Secretary, proceed. The Cabinet Secretary for Interior and National Administration, (Hon. (Prof.) (Kithure Kindiki) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, I do not know whether it will be in order for me to say that I will visit very soon. The reasons are mainly two. Right now, the whole country...

Senate Majority Leader, let me use the limited powers given to me under Standing Order No.1 to allow you to ask that question, and then you can pick one for this particular question.

meet with us. We were not very keen at that time, which is one of the occupational hazards I suffer these days.Sometimes I am even forced to avoid my very best friends at least for a while especially where, for example, an active security matter is pointing to the direction...

increasing approach of politicisation, ethnicization and criminalisation of border-related disputes. That is where we have an issue.Influencers be they political or otherwise want to take advantage of the differing opinions, on where beacons and borderlines lie among neighbours to bring in crime, politics and to divide the people of Kenya.We...

You will be protected as long as you stop protecting yourself.

Proceed, hon. Cabinet Secretary. The Cabinet Secretary for Interior and National Administration (Hon. (Prof.) Kithure Kindiki) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am discovering that I am former many things. Sometimes I am the former Deputy Speaker, and other times the former Senate Majority Leader. Mr. Speaker, Sir, the matter raised...

Proceed, hon. Cabinet Secretary. The Cabinet Secretary for Interior and National Administration (Hon. (Prof.) Kithure Kindiki) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, the Government does not condone destruction of property or inhumane treatment of the people of Kenya in our security operations, however difficult or challenging they are. Therefore, I will be...

Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Order, hon. Senators. Kindly take your seats. I am informed that we do have quorum now. We shall proceed with the afternoon business. Clerk, kindly...

The Chairperson of the Standing Committee on Health. REPORT ON THE MATERNAL, NEW BORN AND CHILD HEALTH BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.17 OF 2023)

Clerk, next order. QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS STATEMENTS Statements pursuant to Standing Order No. 52. Sen. (Prof) Kamar, you may have the Floor. ECOSOCC-PAP WORKING SESSION ON ADVANCING FREE MOVEMENT OF PERSONS IN AFRICA

Statements pursuant to Standing Order No. 53 (1) , the hon. Sen. Alexander Mundigi. That statement is dropped. CONVERSION OF SEVEN-FORKS DAMS FROM SINGLE-USE TO MULTI-PURPOSE DAMS MANAGEMENT OF SHIMO LA TEWA HIGH SCHOOL IN MOMBASA COUNTY LOSS OF FREE-TO-AIR SIGNAL FOR LICENSED BROADCAST SIGNAL DISTRIBUTORS THE NATIONWIDE HEALTH WORKERS’...

Clerk, kindly approach the Chair. (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Speaker) The Chairperson Standing Committee on Health, please approach the Chair. (Sen. Mandago consulted with the Speaker) Hon. Senators, I will allow you to react to the Statement that has just been read by the Chairperson of Standing Committee on...

Sen. Agnes Kavindu.

Sen. Aaron Cheruiyot.

Asante, Sen. Kinyua, ukichagua kuzungumza Kiswahili, usichanganye lugha na bila shaka unajua sheria hiyo. “Intern” kwa Kiwahili ni daktari mkufunzi. Sen. Sifuna, you have the Floor.

Sen. Sifuna, that is a very good campaign piece, but not necessarily appropriate for the debate before us. Proceed, Sen. Mungatana, MGH.

Proceed, Sen. Olekina.

Sen. Olekina, if you are dissatisfied with the conduct of the Cabinet Secretary in charge of Health, you know exactly what to do. You can bring a Motion and prosecute it. Proceed.

Proceed, Sen. Wakili Sigei.

Sen. Faki, proceed.

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, you were on my dashboard, but your name just disappeared. Should I assume that you no longer want to make any interventions so that I can proceed to your colleague? Proceed, Senator. (Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale microphone switched off)

Next Order, Clerk. NOTICES OF MOTIONS EXTENSION OF TIME FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE REFUGEES (GENERAL) REGULATIONS, 2024

Thank you, Senator. Clerk, next order. Statements pursuant to Standing Order No.52, Sen. Wambua, proceed. QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS STATEMENTS TERROR ATTACK IN MANDERA COUNTY

Statements Pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) . Proceed, Sen. Wafula. IRREGULAR APPOINTMENTS OF VICE-CHANCELLORS AND PROMOTION OF TEACHERS DISASTER RESPONSE UNDERTAKEN TO MITIGATE EFFECTS OF FLOODS IN NAIROBI

Proceed, Sen. Chute. DISTRIBUTION AND USE OF HARMFUL PESTICIDES AND HERBICIDES IN KENYA

Statements pursuant to Standing Order No.56, the Chairperson Standing Committee on Energy. OVERFLOWING OF DAMS USED BY KENGEN TO GENERATE ELECTRICITY

Senator for Nandi County, you know you cannot rise on a point of order if there is no Senator on the Floor. (Sen. Cherarkey spoke off the record) Proceed. (Interruption of debate on Statements) POINT OF ORDER STATE OF BUNGE TOWER

Senator for Nandi County, you cannot assume the role of the Chair and ask your colleagues to stand in support of a Motion that is not before the House. Take your seat. Hon. Senator for Nandi County, indeed, I received your Notice of Motion from the office of the Clerk....

Before we move to the next Order, I will allow for 30 minutes as per our Standing Orders for hon. Senators to make some interventions on the statements that have been made. We only have half an hour, but I can see my dashboard is almost full. As you speak,...

Sen. Sifuna proceed.

What is your point of order Senator for Nandi County?

Sen. Sifuna, if I got you correctly you indicated that the head of State visited Mathare two weeks after the floods have ravaged the area; and instead of coming to say what the national Government had done, he came to state what his Government was going to do. From what...

Sen. Cherarkey and Senator of Nairobi City County, in this House, we use parliamentary language. If you are referring to a colleague, you refer to them as hon. Senator. If you are referring to the head of State, then you refer to him as His Excellency the President of the...

Proceed, Sen. Cherarkey.

Order, Senator for Nandi County. What is your point of order, Senator for Homa Bay County?

Senator for Nandi.

Order, Senator for Nairobi City County. Senator for Nandi, if the Chair is speaking, you keep quiet. Senator for Nairobi City County, we will not degenerate into a shouting match. This is a House of order so we must be orderly. Senator for Nandi, you know that there are those...

Order, hon. Senators!

Sen. Sifuna, what is your point of order?

Senator for Nandi County, if you are not sure about any facts, do not put them on the Floor of the House. On the particular matter touching on the hon. Senator for Nairobi City County, you alleging that he has not visited any of these sites. If you cannot substantiate...

Sen. (Prof) Tom Ojienda, you may have the Floor.

Sen. (Prof) Ojienda, just a minute. What is your point of clarification, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale?

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, we are not even sure who these people are. You have proceeded to assume that they are doctors. Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly confirm who these people are and what exactly do they want to report to us. From there, we can see exactly how we can handle the situation...

Senator for Nandi, honestly! We have enough noise out there.

Sen. Keroche Tabitha.

Hon. Senators, we have expended the 30 minutes allowable under the Standing Orders on intervention on Statements. We will now move to the next Order. Clerk, please call out the next Order. EXTENSION OF TIME FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE REFUGEES (GENERAL) REGULATIONS, 2024 Let us have the Chairperson of the...

Order, hon. Senators. Sen. Tabitha Keroche, kindly take your seat. You may extend your greetings after we are done with this session. (Sen. Tabitha Keroche sat at her place) Hon. Senators, I will proceed to propose the question. (Question proposed) Hon. Senators, this is a procedural Motion. If you so...

Proceed, Sen. M. Kajwang’.

Hon. Senators, you may now proceed to make your interventions. Senator Orwoba, you have the Floor.

Take your seat, Sen. Orwoba. Sen. Wambua, please, proceed.

Hon. Senators, this Motion that has been moved, debated and had a vote taken on it, had a remainder of 15 minutes. We have already overshot the runway. Therefore, I will call upon the Mover to reply. Hon. Senators, let us stick to our Standing Orders.

Indeed, putting of the question on this Motion is deferred. THE MATERNAL, NEWBORN AND CHILD HEALTH BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.17 OF 2023)

Proceed, Sen. Kavindu Muthama.

Proceed, Sen. Orwoba.

Sen. Olekina, proceed.

Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Order, hon. Senators! I am informed that we now do have quorum. Clerk, proceed to call the first Order. Senator for Nandi, kindly take your...

Next Order. Proceed, Senate Majority Leader. PAPERS LAID LEGAL NOTICES FOR VARIOUS REGULATIONS

The Chairperson of the Standing Committee on Education. REPORT ON EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION (AMENDMENT) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.54 OF 2023)

Next Order, Clerk. QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS STATEMENTS Statement pursuant to Standing Order No.52 (1) . Proceed, Senator for Nandi, Hon. Cherarkey. MAI MAHIU FLOODS TRAGEDY

Next is the Senator for Lamu. COMPLETION STATUS OF LAMU TECHNICAL TRAINING INSTITUTE

The Statement by Sen. Gloria Orwoba is deferred pursuant to the Senator’s request. SURGE IN TREE FELLING IN NAIROBI CITY COUNTY Next is the Senator for Nandi.

Proceed. MISMANAGEMENT AND FINANCIAL IMPROPRIETY IN THE SPORTS SECTOR

Proceed, Senator. ALLEGED PHYSICAL ASSAULT AND ARREST OF SIMONA LEMOMO, A VISUALLY IMPAIRED HUMAN RIGHTS ADVOCATE AT ONGATA RONGAI POLICE STATION

Let us move to Statement pursuant to Standing Order No.57 (1) by the Senate Majority Leader. We will revisit it. Statement pursuant to Standing Order No.58. The Senator of Nandi County, please, proceed,

Senator for Nandi County, you are supposed to read the Statement as approved by the Speaker. So, proceed to withdraw the element that was not contained in the approved Statement.

Senate Majority Leader, proceed to make your Statement pursuant to Standing Order No.57. BUSINESS FOR THE WEEK COMMENCING TUESDAY, 7TH MAY, 2024

Hon. Senators, before I call Order No.8, allow me to make the following Communications. COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE CHAIR VISITING DELEGATION FROM KAJIADO COUNTY ASSEMBLY VISITING DELEGATIONS FROM BUNGOMA, SIAYA AND MANDERA COUNTY ASSEMBLIES VISITING DELEGATION FROM BISHOP CAVALLERA GIRLS HIGH SCHOOL, MARSABIT COUNTY

The Senator for Siaya, avoid the kind of speech that the Senator for Kajiado has made. Give your speech in under one minute. (Laughter)

Proceed, Senator Chute.

Next Order, Clerk COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE [The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) left the Chair] IN THE COMMITTEE [The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Wakili Sigei) in the Chair] (Loud consultations) THE DIVISION OF REVENUE BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.14 OF 2024) The ScheduleThe Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Wakili Sigei): It is at this...

Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Speaker) Serjeant-At-Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Clerk, proceed to call the first Order, please. RESTRICTING COUNTY GOVERNMENTS FROM HIRING LAW FIRMS FOR LEGAL REPRESENTATION Hon. Senators, I hereby report to the...

Please pick your glasses and conclude. (Sen. Okiya Omtatah went to his seat to pick his glasses) Clerk, proceed to call the next Order. That petition will be finalised on Thursday. Sen. Omtatah, take your petition and have a seat. I will direct you otherwise. (Petition deferred) NOTICE OF MOTION...

Next Order. QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS STATEMENTS MISMANAGEMENT OF THE KENYA NATIONAL WALKING RACE TEAM

Proceed, Senator. OPERATIONS OF BETIKA IN KENYA

Sen. Gloria Orwoba. FLOODING SITUATION IN NAIROBI CITY COUNTY

Hon. Senators, at this juncture, allow me to invoke Standing Order No.45 (2) and rearrange the sequence of today’s Order Paper for the convenience of the House, which is the Division of Revenue Bill (National Assembly Bills No.14 of 2024) . As you are aware, this Bill has timelines. Clerk,...

Clerk, proceed to call Order No. 11. THE DIVISION OF REVENUE BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.14 OF 2024)

Let me hear from the Minority Side before I guide on this matter. The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Madzayo) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, we were discussing and agreed that 10 minutes would be okay.

Hon. Senators, limiting debate normally happens before any of the Senators stands to contribute or speak on a Bill. However, we are faced with a very peculiar situation where we may allow Senators to speak for the 20 minutes as given to them by the Standing Orders. However, if we...

Sen. Madzayo, whatever you say shall be deemed to be the position of your side. The Senate Minority Leader (

especially in the context that already the amount of money is reduced. The definition of revenue which we are relying on is unconstitutional because it is not revenue raised nationally.Mr. Speaker, Sir, with those few remarks, I return the microphone to you. (Laughter)

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I also rise to make a contribution to the Bill. I came prepared to speak for 20 minutes. I am a bit saddened that we have reduced the time to seven minutes. I do not want to claim that I am an athlete. However, I came prepared...

Sen. Abdul Haji, you have the Floor.

Sen. Thang’wa, you have the Floor.

Sen. Maanzo, you have the Floor

Senator for Nandi, proceed.

Sen. Faki, proceed.

Proceed, Sen. Abass.

Members of Parliament from Nairobi for a meeting. People were extremely upset to see me in the same room with the governor. It is as if people expect that every time I see my governor, I should go on his neck or punch him in the face.When we do oversight,...

absolutely devastated. People have not been paid for years. Their businesses have been closed, people have been auctioned, and yet we continue to talk about pending bills.That is why I supported the Motion that was brought to this Floor by the Senator for Narok County, that we need to ring-fence...

Your time is up, Sen. Sifuna. Sen. Wakili Sigei, proceed.

Proceed, Sen. M. Kajwang’.

As we are allocating these funds, let us also be alive to the fact that these accounting officers are actually not doing what they are supposed to do with them. Therefore, when I hear people saying that we have to push for more funds so that they get Kshs400 billion,...

Clerk, do we have a quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly, ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Hon. Senators, kindly take your seats. (Sen. Kinyua consulted with Sen. Cheruiyot and Sen. Cherarkey) Commissioner Kinyua, you can hold your meeting after this...

The next one is by the Chairperson of the Committee on Finance and Budget. Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, you may proceed to lay the Paper. REPORT ON THE DIVISION OF REVENUE BILL, 2024

Let us go to the next Order. Statement pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) , Sen. Abdul Haji, proceed. QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS STATEMENTS STATE OF HEALTHCARE SERVICES AT GARISSA COUNTY REFERRAL HOSPITAL

Yes, Senator, proceed. STATE OF OPERATIONS IN THE OFFICE OF COUNTY CHIEF OFFICERS, GARISSA COUNTY

Sen. Cherarkey, proceed. STATE OF MOMBASA ROAD AND NAIROBI EXPRESSWAY

We will proceed to the Statement pursuant to Standing Order No.57 (1) . Senate Majority Leader, you have the Floor. BUSINESS OF THE WEEK COMMENCING TUESDAY, 30TH APRIL, 2024

Hon. Senators, may the Majority Leader be heard in silence. The Senate Majority Leader (Sen. Cheruiyot) : As hon. Senators are aware, Wednesday, 1st May, 2024 is a public holiday namely, Labour Day - a day to celebrate workers. Consequently, the SBC will not schedule any business for that day....

Proceed, Sen. Olekina. STATUS OF SENATORS STATUTORY DEDUCTIONS AND REMITTANCES

Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted the Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for a further 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) (Several Senators stood in their places and consulted loudly) Hon....

Sen. Sifuna, proceed.

Sen. Mungatana, you may have the Floor.

The Senate Majority Leader, what is your intervention?

Hon. Senators, let us make progress. I know the House is extremely disappointed. You are unhappy with the conduct of the Cabinet Secretaries not just today, but for the many times that they have opted not to respect invitations from this House. If we proceed and I give each one...

(Laughter)

Sen. Wambua.

(Applause)

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, I was listening to my brother, the Deputy Speaker and I liked what he was saying. The Order Paper belongs to my good (Loud consultations)

pass a resolution. The Speaker cannot impose a fine, but only by this House through a resolution. How do we then proceed as a House?(Loud consultations) pass a resolution. The Speaker cannot impose a fine, but only by this House through a resolution. How do we then proceed as a...

Sen. Wamatinga?

Sen. Miraj, kindly go and answer your call out of the Chamber. (Sen. Miraj walked out of the Chamber)

Sen. Wambua, you have the Floor.

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, proceed.

What is your point of order, Sen. Kathuri?

(Applause)(Laughter) Mr. Speaker, Sir, it was Dr. Martin Luther King who said that, if you are accused of breaking the law when the law you are accused to be breaking is a bad law, then that is the highest respect of the law. The Deputy Speaker is right, I am...

(Applause)

[The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) left the Chair]

Proceed, Sen. Ogola.

Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) (Several Senators walked into the Chamber) Hon. Senators, I am informed that we have quorum. Kindly proceed to take your seats. Order, hon. Senators. Clerk,...

Sen. Mungatana, proceed. REPORT ON THE EXTRAORDINARY SESSION OF THE SIXTH PARLIAMENT OF PAP

Sen. Kisang, proceed. REPORT ON PETITION: PROTECTION OF CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED RIGHTS AND FUNDAMENTAL FREEDOMS

Clerk, next order. NOTICE OF MOTION NOTING OF REPORT ON THE EXTRAORDINARY SESSION OF THE SIXTH PARLIAMENT OF PAP

Sen. Cherarkey, you will get an opportunity later. Get your paper in order. Next Order. We proceed to Statements pursuant to Standing order No.53 (1) . Sen. Mumma, proceed. Sen. Sifuna, are you holding brief? Very well. QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS STATEMENTS IMPLEMENTATION OF SIGNED CBAS BY THE GOVERNMENT

Sen. Cherarkey are you ready now? Kindly proceed under Standing Order No.52 (1) and then you take the one under Standing Order No. 53 SHATTERING OF THE WOMEN'S MARATHON WORLD TIME RECORD BY PERES JEPCHIRCHIR

Proceed, Sen. Chute. That Statement is dropped. STATUS OF PROJECTS UNDER THE PARLIAMENTARY SERVICE COMMISSION STATUS OF CONSTRUCTION OF THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE OFFICE BLOCK AND SPEAKER’S RESIDENCE IN TURKANA COUNTY

Proceed. SAFETY OF CHIEFS SERVING IN COUNTIES PLAGUED BY INSECURITY

Proceed, Sen. (Prof.) Tom Odhiambo Ojienda, SC. MEASURES TO ADDRESS WASTAGE OF PUBLIC RESOURCES IN KISUMU COUNTY

Sen. Chute, having explained your absence to the satisfaction of the Chair, you may now proceed to read your Statement. STATUS OF PROJECTS UNDER THE PARLIAMENTARY SERVICE COMMISSION

Hon. Senators, the last two Statements by Sen. Abdul Haji are deferred. (Statements deferred) Let us now move to Statements pursuant to Standing Order No.56 (1) (b) . The first one is by the Chairperson for the Standing Committee on Trade, Industrialization and Tourism. ACTIVITIES OF THE COMMITTEE ON TRADE,...

Commissioners Kinyua and Korir, what is the excitement all about? Kindly take your seats.

Hon. Senators, we will defer the last two statements under Standing Order No.56 (1) (b) as listed in the Order Paper. ACTIVITIES OF THE COMMITTEE ON ROADS, TRANSPORTATION AND HOUSING ACTIVITIES OF THE COUNTY PUBLIC ACCOUNTS COMMITTEE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE [The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) left the Chair] IN THE...

Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted the Chair) Clerk, now that we have quorum, proceed to call the first Order. COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR VISITING DELEGATION FROM PARLIAMENT OF MALAWI

Sen. Madzayo. The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Madzayo) : Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I enjoin myself with you to welcome the delegation from Malawi, being led by my brother Kondwani. He is the Leader of the Opposition there. I have had a word with him and we had lunch...

Next order, Clerk. The Hon. Sen. Andrew Omtatah. ALLEGED CORRUPTION THROUGH THE SGR PROJECT PAPERS LAID

On a Motion of Adjournment, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Absolutely. Proceed. NOTICE OF MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT UNDER STANDING ORDER NO. 37 DELAYS IN RELEASE OF DISASTER MANAGEMENT FUNDS TO FLOODS VICTIMS

Yes, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Proceed. REPORT ON THE STREET VENDORS BILL, 2023

Next Order, Clerk. Statements pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) . Hon. Agnes Kavindu. QUESTION AND STATEMENTS STATEMENTS ALLEGED FAILURE BY PUBLIC UNIVERSITIES TO REMIT STATUTORY DEDUCTIONS

Proceed, Sen. Tabitha Keroche. ALLEGED FINANCIAL IMPROPRIETY IN THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT OF NAKURU STALLED PROJECTS AND ALLOCATION OF DEVELOPMENT FUNDS IN NAKURU WELFARE OF ECDE TEACHERS IN WEST POKOT COUNTY SHORTAGE OF MAIZE SEED IN VARIOUS COUNTIES

Sen. (Prof) Ojienda? Is any Senator holding brief for the good professor? STATE OF TRAINING IN TVET CENTERS IN KISUMU COUNTY THE STATE OF MARKET CENTERS AND ESTABLISHMENT OF THE KISUMU TRADE FUND STALLED PROJECTS AND ALLOCATION OF DEVELOPMENT FUNDS IN NAKURU

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise pursuant to Standing Order No. 53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Finance and Budget concerning stalled projects and the allocation of development funds in the 2023/2024 budget for Nakuru County. In the statement, the committee should-

Sen. Lelegwe? COMPULSORY ACQUISITION OF LAND IN SAMBURU COUNTY

Hon. Senators, I will rearrange the sequence of today’s Order Paper. Instead of proceeding with Order No.7 (b) , we will go to Order No.8, and maybe thereafter, we will have restricted comments on the Statements that have been made before we allow the normal flow of today’s Order Paper....

Next is the Chairperson of the Standing Committee on National Cohesion, Equal Opportunity and Regional Integration. ACTIVITIES OF THE COMMITTEE ON NATIONAL COHESION, EQUAL OPPORTUNITY AND REGIONAL INTEGRATION

The Chairperson, Standing Committee on National Security, Defense and Foreign Relations, you may have the Floor. ACTIVITIES OF THE COMMITTEE ON NATIONAL SECURITY, DEFENCE AND FOREIGN RELATIONS

Sen. (Prof) Tom Ojienda, having explained yourself, you may now proceed to read your statements. VOCATIONAL TRAINING CENTRES IN KISUMU COUNTY

Clerk, do we have quorum? Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Clerk, you may proceed now that we have quorum. Call the first Order. PAPERS LAID Senate Majority Leader, kindly proceed. LEGAL NOTICES ON FISHERIES MANAGEMENT AND DEVELOPMENT

Next Order. NOTICES OF MOTIONS DEVELOPMENT OF A LAW FOR SOCIAL RISK MANAGEMENT IN INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS IN KENYA Proceed, Sen. Miraj on behalf of Sen. Mumma.

Next Order. QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS STATEMENTS Statements pursuant to Standing Order No.56 (1) (b) . The Chairperson of the Standing Committee on Information Communication and Technology (ICT) . ACTIVITIES OF THE COMMITTEE ON INFORMATION, COMMUNICATION AND TECHNOLOGY

The Chairperson, Justice, Legal Affairs and Human Rights, you may have the Floor. ACTIVITIES OF THE COMMITTEE ON JUSTICE, LEGAL AFFAIRS AND HUMAN RIGHTS

The Chairperson Standing Committee on Labor and Welfare. ACTIVITIES OF THE COMMITTEE ON LABOUR AND SOCIAL WELFARE

The Chairperson, Standing Committee on Agriculture. ACTIVITIES OF THE COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE, LIVESTOCK AND FISHERIES

The next Statement is by the Chairperson of the Standing Committee on Health. Where is Sen. Mandago? I thought I saw him in the House!

Proceed. ACTIVITIES OF THE COMMITTEE ON HEALTH

Statement pursuant to Standing Order No.52. The Hon. Mwinyihaji Faki. HALI NGUMU NA UNYANYASAJI WA WAFANYIKAZI EPZ

Statement pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) . Hon. Karen Nyamu. TRAFFIC CONGESTION IN NAIROBI CITY COUNTY AND ITS ENVIRONS

Statement pursuant to Standing Order No.57 (1) . The Senate Majority Leader. BUSINESS FOR THE WEEK COMMENCING TUESDAY, 23RD APRIL, 2024

Sen. Sifuna, that was in good faith, honestly. Proceed, Majority Leader.

THE GAMBLING CONTROL BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.70 OF 2023) At the interruption of debate, Sen. Mungatana had the Floor and had a balance of 13 minutes. He is not in the House, so we will proceed. Sen. Crystal Asige, you have the Floor.

Sen. Orwoba. (Sen. Orwoba spoke off record) Sen. Onyonka, you may proceed. (Sen. Onyonka spoke off record) All right then. I will call upon the Mover to reply.

Very well. The division on this Bill is deferred to a later date. (Putting of the Question on the Bill deferred) We will proceed with Order No.14. Clerk, proceed to call that Order, please. THE COUNTY GOVERNMENTS (AMENDMENT) BILL (SENATE BILL NO.25 OF 2023) Sen. Cherarkey, you may proceed.

The Senator for Nandi County, are you making a Statement based on the Standing Order No.52 or you are moving the County Governments (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bills No.25 of 2023) ?

Senator for Nandi County, kindly, proceed to lay bare the names of those who are guilty. If you cannot, you may proceed to withdraw that statement.

Proceed, Sen. Maanzo.

Sen. Osotsi, you may have the Floor.