Amason Jeffah Kingi

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Clerk, do we have quorum? (Several Senators walked into the Chamber) We now have quorum. First Order. PAPERS LAID

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Next Order. November 16, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 1 NOTICE OF MOTION STATE OF FOOD SECURITY IN KENYA

The Speaker (Sen. Kingi) There is a Notice of Motion by Sen. Veronica Maina. However, pursuant to her request, that has been deferred to further Notice. (Notice of Motion Deferred) Clerk, Next Order. STATEMENTS SUPERB PERFORMANCE BY KENYAN ATHLETES IN THE NEW YORK CITY MARATHON, 2022 The Speaker (Sen. Kingi)...

The Speaker (Sen. Kingi) Sen. Kinyua, proceed.

The Speaker (Sen. Kingi) Sen. Mariam Omar, proceed. ENROLMENT OF MANDERA COUNTY RESIDENTS TO NHIF AND RELEASE OF CAPITATION

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Mr. Clerk, there is a technical hitch. I cannot see any of the Senators who would wish to contribute. How do I get to know? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted the Speaker) Proceed Sen. Cherarkey.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Let us now listen to Sen. Ali Roba.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Proceed, Sen. Veronica Maina.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) This Statement stands referred to the relevant Committee for Consideration. Sen. James Kamau, you may proceed.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Osotsi, you may proceed.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Osotsi, you had made a request. So, you are on your feet for the purposes of contributing to the just-delivered Statements. If you are not ready then, I will call the next statement.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Cherarkey, you may have the Floor.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Ogola, you may have the Floor.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Osotsi, you may have the Floor. November 16, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 13 EFFECTS OF GOVERNMENT AUSTERITY MEASURES ON THE HOTEL INDUSTRY

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Senate Minority Leader, proceed. The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Madzayo) : Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. First, I congratulate my colleague for bringing this Statement. Secondly, it is not only in hotels as stated like the imminent closure of Hilton Hotel. As far as we are...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)Pursuant to that request, I direct that those Statements be deferred to tomorrow, 17th November, 2022. November 16, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 17 The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Let us go to the next Order. The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Madzayo) : Point of Order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. DEATH...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Asante, Bw. Spika, kwa kunipa hii fursa kuchangi Taarifa iliyosomwa na Seneta wa Kilifi Sen. Madzayo kuhusu shida iliyowakuba watu wa Kijiji cha Pindukiani, Kilifi Kaunti. Kisa kilichowapata watu wa Pindukiani kinaadhiri Wakenya nchi nzima. Watu tofauti wamepatwa na madhila haya kwa sababu wa mizozano ya...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)(Laughter)

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Asante, Bi. Spika wa Muda, kwa kunipa nafasi hii ili niweze kuunga mkono Taarifa ya Mhe. Sen. Madzayo. November 16, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 20

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Speaker) Serjeant -at-arms, kindly, ring the bell. (The Quorum Bell was rung) The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Clerk, I thought there was a Communication. (The Clerk-at-the-Table Consulted the Speaker) PAPERS LAID

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Next Order. Sen. Korir, there is a report to be laid. It needs to be laid on the Table, so kindly, proceed to lay it. REPORT OF THE JOINT SELECT COMMITTEE ON ELECTION OF MEMBERS TO EALA November 15, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 2

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Next Order. Sen. Korir, give Notice of Motion for consideration of your Report. NOTICE OF MOTION ADOPTION OF REPORT ON ELECTION OF MEMBERS TO EALA

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Next Order. STATEMENTS THE COST OF ELECTRICITY IN THE COUNTRY

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Mariam Omar, proceed. REGISTRATION OF BIRTHS IN MANDERA COUNTY

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Cherarkey.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Cheruiyot, please proceed. The Majority Leader (Sen. Cheruiyot) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, I want to say something on the Statement issued by Sen. Cherarkey on the fallen hero, Mr. Kiprugut. Last weekend, we laid Mr. Kiprugut to rest at his home in Kericho County. First...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Mr. Speaker, Sir, I also wish to strongly add my voice, not only in sending my condolences to the family and friends of the departed, Mr. Wilson Kiprugut Arap Chuma, but also join colleagues in creating national consensus around this problem. Mr. Speaker, Sir, we must...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I also wish to strongly add my voice, not only in sending my condolences to the family and friends of the departed, Mr. Wilson Kiprugut Arap Chuma, but also join colleagues in creating national consensus around this problem. Mr. Speaker, Sir, we must accept that today, sports...

They have developed a culture in the process. Brazilians are the richest footballers in the world. They produce the best talent because of the support that they get back home.I usually see young Kalenjin boys along the Kapsabet to Kericho Road, while on my way back to Nairobi. If we...

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Osotsi, I think Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale is already done with his contributions. Therefore, you cannot rise on a point of order. Proceed, Sen. Beth Syengo.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise to support the Statement by Sen. Cherarkey. We actually have a lot of talent in this country. It is important to support our youth with upcoming talents, so that they can earn their living through sporting activities. As I support, I would like to state...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No. 53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Land, Environment and Natural resources on the incessant human wildlife conflict in Lamu County. The Committee should - INCESSANT HUMAN-WILDLIFE CONFLICT IN LAMU...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No. 53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Land, Environment and Natural resources on the incessant human wildlife conflict in Lamu County. The Committee should - The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Mr. Speaker, Sir, I had...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I had already read my statements. I read them concurrently, pursuant to Standing Order No. 52 (1) and 53 (1) . I request that you commit them to the respective committees. (The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) spoke off record)

The first statement was on the impact of the current drought on wildlife in Kenya. The other statement was under Standing Order No. 51 (1) , which can be referred to the Committee on Labor and Social Welfare and this one to the Committee on Tourism, Trade and Industrialization. The...

Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise, pursuant to Standing Order 53 (1) , to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Roads, Transportation, and Housing on the death of boda boda riders and their passengers by sugarcane trailers of a...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise, pursuant to Standing Order 53 (1) , to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Roads, Transportation, and Housing on the death of boda boda riders and their passengers by sugarcane trailers of a local sugar miller (Sukari Industry) in Ndhiwa Constituency. The situation...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Motion on the approval of Senators to serve in the Select Committees--- THAT, the Senate resolves that- Pursuant to Standing Order Nos.199 and 228, and the Fourth Schedule to the Standing Orders, the Senate approves the following Senators nominated by the Senate Business Committee to...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Mr. Speaker Sir, I rise on a point of order pursuant to Standing Order No.37, to seek leave of the House to adjourn to discuss a matter of national importance namely: the security situation in Kitui County, as a result of conflict between camel herders and...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I Second. (Several Senators stood up in their places) The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)

ADOPTION OF REPORT ON ELECTION OF MEMBERS TO EALA The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) The Co-Chairperson of the Joint Select Committee on the election of Members to EALA, please, proceed.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have a Seconder. It is the distinguished Senator from my neighbourhood, Nandi County, Sen. Cherarkey. (Loud consultations)

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have a Seconder. It is the distinguished Senator from my neighbourhood, Nandi County, Sen. Cherarkey.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)[The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) in the Chair] The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) We will resume after the 15 minutes. It is now 3.49 [The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) in the Chair] ADOPTION OF REPORT ON ELECTION OF MEMBERS TO EALA The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Ogola, kindly proceed from...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Mr. Speaker, Sir, very quickly. From my small experience in the Pan-African Parliament, when Kenya stands to speak, people want to hear what it is about to say. The delegation that has gone there before has represented us very well. My point is that the people...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, very quickly. From my small experience in the Pan-African Parliament, when Kenya stands to speak, people want to hear what it is about to say. The delegation that has gone there before has represented us very well. My point is that the people we are going to...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for the opportunity. Reading through the Report, the Committee has recommended that the rules need to be amended, so that we have clarity on the role of the Joint Committee. The rules talk about presiding officers. I hope that the relevant Committee will take it...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Lemaltian, proceed. November 15, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 24

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise to support this Report. In the interests of this House and other issues that have been raised, there is a Committee that concerns itself with this and it needs to pick up some of these recommendations going into the future. This will ensure that the...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Wambua, please, proceed.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Hon. Senator, your time is up. Sen. Olekina, please, proceed. (Loud consultations)

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise to support the Report of the Committee that they have done a good job with the names that they have presented to both Houses to be considered for the EALA Parliament. All those who are in that list are Kenyans who can represent this country....

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Mr. Speaker, Sir, I thank you for giving me this opportunity. I rise to support the Report.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise to support the Report of the Joint Select Committee. We have looked through the Report and the people selected by the Joint Select Committee generally represent all the regions of this country. This is an opportunity for us, as Parliament, to help in fine-tuning the...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I thank you for giving me this opportunity. I rise to support the Report. November 15, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 28

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Mr. Speaker, Sir, I also rise to support the Report by the Joint Select Committee. I urge hon. Members of this House that the shortlisted candidates meet the requirements, but we need to do away with the narrative that these slots are a bureau for employment....

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Mr. Speaker, Sir, I stand here a proud Member of the Joint Select Committee of the two Houses. Worth noting is the fact that the Joint Select Committee took into consideration many comments by Senators while on the Floor. Mr. Speaker, Sir, while I was here,...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I also rise to support the Report by the Joint Select Committee. I urge hon. Members of this House that the shortlisted candidates meet the requirements, but we need to do away with the narrative that these slots are a bureau for employment. This House will be...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I stand here a proud Member of the Joint Select Committee of the two Houses. Worth noting is the fact that the Joint Select Committee took into consideration many comments by Senators while on the Floor. Mr. Speaker, Sir, while I was here, I have been wondering...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to move – THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order No. 34 (4) (b) , the Senate resolves to hold a Sitting on Thursday, 17th November, 2022, commencing at 9.30 a.m. and terminating not later than 2.15 p.m., for purposes...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I beg to move the following Motion – THAT, aware that water is a fundamental resource to life, livelihood, food security and sustainable development and an economic good, which is critical for the sustainable development of the country; FURTHER AWARE THAT...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Without demeaning colleagues of previous Parliaments, we achieved a lot through that partnership. I thank the people of Tana River County for having returned Sen. Mungatana to this Parliament because Kenya needs him. Sen. Mungatana, is the father of the Unclaimed...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Thank you Mr. Speaker, Sir. It is what we call ‘building up.’ I was building up. (Applause) Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Without demeaning colleagues of previous Parliaments, we achieved a lot through that partnership. I thank the people of Tana River County for having returned...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)lives. The common denominator of the crime that is meted on the innocent souls in Kitui County and parts of this country is that the perpetrators are never brought to book.Yesterday, Monday, 14th November, 2022, a man by the name Mzee Matii from Chamalutu Village in Wikithuke...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Abbas, your time is up. Hon. Senators, you will bear with us. The system seems to be down. I have a list of Senators. From the Minority side, we have Sen. Madzayo. The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Madzayo) : Asante, Bw. Spika wa Muda. Kwanza,...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Clerk, can you determine if we have quorum please? Kindly ring Division Bell for three minutes. (The Division Bell was rung) PAPERS LAID

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Hon. Senators, I would like to acknowledge the presence in the Speaker’s Gallery, this afternoon, a visiting delegation of clergy from Nyandarua County, who are in the Senate on a courtesy call. Hon. Senators, I request the delegation to stand so that they may be acknowledged...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Kibwana, proceed.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Next Order, please. STATEMENTS The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. (Prof.) Tom Ojienda, SC, proceed. He is not in the House. His Statement is deferred. THE STATE OF RICE FARMING IN KISUMU COUNTY SAFETY OF LEARNERS IN SPECIAL NEEDS EDUCATION INSTITUTIONS

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Onyonka, the Floor is yours.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Cheruiyot, please proceed. November 10, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 6

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Shakila Abdalla, the Floor is yours.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Muma, please proceed. November 10, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 7

The Speaker (Kingi) Proceed, Sen. (Dr.) Murango.

The Speaker (Kingi) Sen. Wambua, you have the Floor.

The Speaker (Kingi) Sen. Tobiko, you have the Floor.

The Speaker (Kingi)Please proceed,

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Hon. Senators, for those who still wish to have a bite at these requests, I believe that you will have an opportunity when the Report is tabled by the relevant Committee. For now, we shall move to the next request. Sen. (Prof.) Tom Ojienda, proceed. November...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Can we hear from Sen. Sigei? Okay, we will hear from Sen. Kibwana. AUSTERITY MEASURES IMPOSED BY IMF ON DEVELOPING COUNTRIES

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Proceed, Sen. Mandago.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Munyi Mundigi, proceed to read your Statement. HIGH CESS LEVIED ON TRANSPORTERS OF MUGUKA CARGO FROM MBEERE IN EMBU COUNTY

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Faki.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) What is your point of order, Sen. Kathuri?

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Faki, kindly, proceed.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Senator for Laikipia, what is your point of order?

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Faki, kindly make the House understand what you meant by “vijana hawawezi kushika nyumba.”

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Sifuna, proceed.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Faki, proceed and conclude your contribution.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Tabitha Mutinda, please proceed.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Gataya, please proceed.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Proceed, Sen. Shakila Abdalla.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) The Senator has already yielded to her seat. Proceed, Sen. Abass.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Abass, kindly take your seat. I will give you an opportunity after I have ruled. Hon. Senators, it is true that under Standing Order No.105, responsibility is attached to the Senator making a statement of fact, to be able to substantiate that fact. In the...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Hon. Senators, I can still see a number of you are eager to contribute. However, looking at the way the debate is moving, we are better off engaging when the report is made by the committee, so that those who want to defend or oppose can...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Faki, your point of order about what? (Sen. Faki spoke off record) Sen. Faki, allow me to finalize. This matter is grave. That is why I gave latitude for quite a number of you to ventilate your thoughts before the House. However, we cannot casually...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Wambua, kindly take your sit. Sen. Faki, during his contribution, said he is willing to table findings on what he was alleging. Likewise, Sen. Abass said he is willing to table documents to buttress his arguments. Why should we then curtail them? Sen. Wambua, I...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Let us rest that matter there. Hon. Senators, I have a communication to make. (Interruption of debate on Statements) COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE CHAIR VISITING DELEGATION FROM ALLIANCE HIGH SCHOOL The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Hon. Senators, in the Public Gallery, we have students from Alliance High School,...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Let us now have Sen. Osotsi. STATEMENTS RISING CASES OF INSECURITY IN VIHIGA COUNTY

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Ali Roba, proceed. The next Statement is Business for the coming week and any Member of the Senate Business Committee (SBC) November 10, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 25 The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)can deliver it. Sen. Madzayo, read the Statement. As a Member of the SBC, you...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Cheptumo, just a minute, please. Just hold on. Order, Sen. Madzayo!

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Next Order! Senate Majority Leader, proceed.

Mr. Speaker Sir, may I then respond, in view of that fact that we do not want to be seen as violating the Senate Standing Orders. When the time for moving the Motion came, the Chairperson of the Committee, Sen. Cheptumo, was out. As a Member of the Committee, he...

the Motion for adoption and concurrence by this House, speaks to a progressive police force and a progressive IG that will be appointed to serve the interests of all Kenyans and not just a section.It is a report that speaks to the issues that Members have spoken about this afternoon....

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)(Applause)(Applause)(Applause)(Loud consultations) The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Hon. Senators, the Chair is in charge. (Laughter) Mr. Speaker, Sir, from the onset, I second. I will say only one thing. The authority on any matter concerning the Minority side of the Senate is vested in the office of the...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)Naunga mkono. (Laughter) The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Do we have any comments? Now that we do not have any comments, I will put the question. (Question of the amendment put and agreed to) (Applause) The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I am very delighted....

Bw. Spika, asante kwa kunipa fursa hii. Nasimama kuunga mkono Hoja hii. Kwanza, nashukuru kwamba waliochaguliwa kuhudumu katika Tume hii ni watu ambao tunawajua na tumefanya nao kazi. Uteuzi wa Mhe. Mishi Mboko, Mhe. Mohammed Ali - “Simba wa Nyali” - na Mhe. Joyce Korir, ni ishara kwamba, kwa mara...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)wished to receive when joining this House. For that, I am truly grateful and thankful to him for seeing me, a young woman with a disability, and for hearing me because seldom do we get seen or heard especially on such platforms. I publicly thank him for...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) First Order, please. ADMINISTRATION OF OATH NOMINATED SENATOR - OKENYURI ESTHER ANYIENI

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Hon. Senators, before we move to the next Order, I will give an opportunity to one or two Senators to pass a message of congratulations to the newly sworn in Senator. Sen. Orwoba, proceed.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Osotsi, proceed.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) There is someone who wants to speak. So, do not do what you are not prepared to do. Sen. Mungatana, the Floor is yours.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Oketch Gicheru, proceed.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Thank you. With four of us speaking, we should rest that matter there. Let us move on to the next Order, Clerk. COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR WELCOME TO HON. SENATORS TO PART THREE OF THE FIRST SESSION The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Hon. Senators, I take this...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Madzayo, indeed, you are right that in the meeting held today in the morning, the SBC resolved to have that particular agenda in today’s Order Paper. After we had finished the meeting and having looked at the flurry of letters on this particular subject, I...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Omogeni I do not remember giving you an opportunity to speak. Now that you are already up, kindly proceed. (Laughter) November 8, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 5

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Omogeni, the matter at hand is a matter that relates to the two political divides, hence the reason I had to consult with the two parties. The decision to drop the Motion from today’s Order Paper was not arrived at unilaterally. I took you through...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, you have the Floor.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Would you wish to be informed?

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Sifuna, I wish that I could give you that assurance but I am afraid I cannot do it now. As I stated earlier, this matter is in the hands of the coalitions. I will not be surprised if by 6.00. p.m. today, I receive another...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) I have seen several letters from that coalition. I do not think the one that I have is the last one. Should there be no other communication other than the one that I have, I am duty bound to bring the Motion as it is. Proceed,...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) We are going to have that matter contained in tomorrow’s Order Paper. We shall have time to ventilate it further. Next Order. PAPERS LAID REPORTS OF THE AUDITOR-GENERAL ON FINANCIAL STATEMENTS OF VARIOUS ENTITIES The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Next Order. Proceed, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale. NOTICE OF...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Hon. Senators, before we proceed to the next Order, I have a communication to make. In the public gallery, we have 46 pupils accompanied by five teachers from Kiahuko primary school in Nyeri County who are in the Senate on an educational tour. In our usual...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Thank you. Next Order. November 8, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 12 STATEMENTS ACTUALIZATION OF THE TWO-THIRDS GENDER RULE

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Pursuant to Standing Order 52 (3) I refer this particular Statement to the relevant Committee. (The Statement was referred to the Standing Committee on National Cohesion, Equal Opportunity and Regional Integration) ILLEGAL DIVERSION OF FUNDS FROM KMA STAFF TRAINING FUND

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) It is so referred. November 8, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 15 The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)(The Statement was referred to the Standing Committee on Roads, Transportation and Housing) Proceed, Sen. Sifuna. ONGOING STRIKE BY KALPA

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Omogeni, kindly proceed. Sen. Sifuna, have your seat for a while.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Mungatana, I think you have already made your point of order. The Standing orders are very clear on matters sub judice. The Chair can only rule that a matter is sub judice if the Chair is seized of the pleadings. Basically, that is the evidence....

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Mungatana, I thought you are coming up with a different thing, but you are still stuck there. If you look at Standing Order No.102 (5) , I still have that latitude to allow you to proceed. Sen. Sifuna, you may not want to delve in...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) The Statement is so referred. (The Statement was referred to the Standing Committee on Roads, Transportation and Housing) Proceed, Sen. (Prof.) Tom Ojienda, SC.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Onyonka, you may proceed.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, what is your point of information?

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Senator for Kiambu County, Sen. Thang’wa, please, proceed.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Maanzo, you may proceed.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Mandago, you have the Floor.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Osotsi, you may have the Floor.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Wakili Sigei, you may have the Floor.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Hon. Senators, we can rest this matter now. As prayed by the Senator for Kiambu, it is true that the matters to be probed here go beyond transportation. There are issues of labour, trade and investment that will come to the fore. However, I refer this...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) It is so referred. Sen. Kavindu Muthama is not in and there is no one holding her brief. We will proceed to Sen. Orwoba. ALLEGED MISMANAGEMENT OF FUNDS BY THE MCK BOARD

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) It is so referred. (The Statement was referred to the Standing Committee on ICT) STATUS OF PENDING BILLS IN KAKAMEGA COUNTY

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Onyonka.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi): Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I want to weigh in on the pending bills. I agree with Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale that this is very key. The pain is that service providers go a long way in securing loans or credit facilities to supply counties. Years down...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. If we do not arrest the issue of pending bills in the counties now, it is still going to be a menace in the future years to come. Truth be told, new governors are not willing to pay pending bills of...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise to move the following Motion- THAT, pursuant to Article 5 of the Protocol to the Treaty of establishing the East African Economic Community and relating to the Pan-African Parliament, the Senate approves the appointment of the following Members of Parliament to...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise to move the following Motion- THAT, pursuant to Article 5 of the Protocol to the Treaty of establishing the East African Economic Community and relating to the Pan-African Parliament, the Senate approves the appointment of the following Members of Parliament to the Pan-African Parliament –...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Bw. Spika, nami pia nitajaribu kwa sababu tulikuwa na mafunzo juma lililopita. Mmojawapo wa waelekezi alikuwa Sen. Madzayo ambaye in Kiongozi wa Wachache katika Seneti. Aliniambia kwamba, nikitaja jina lako, ambalo ni Spika Amason Jefferson Kingi, nafaa kuongeza “Mzee wa Orodha wa Moyo wa Dhahabu ambayo...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg that you reserve my comments for the next Order. That is why I had placed my request.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Bw. Spika, nimekagua orodha hii kwa makini. Majina ambayo yako hapa ni ya waheshimiwa kutoka Seneti na Bunge la Taifa ambao wanaheshimika sana. Sen. Mungatana, MGH, ni mchapakazi. Amekuwa katika Mbunge takribani miaka 15. Kwa hivyo, anayo tajiriba ya kutosha na tunatazamia kwamba uwakilishi wake utatufaa...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for giving me the opportunity. I would like to join Sen. Mungatana in thanking Members of Parliament for passing this list. I would like to thank the coalitions and political parties for nominating us to this position. In the year 2004,...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for granting me an opportunity to add my voice in congratulating and supporting the hon. Members that have joined the PAP. I am excited that Sen. Mungatana, MGH, mentioned the issue of climate change because it is a challenge that can...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Clerk, please confirm whether we have quorum. Hon. Senators, we seem not to have the requisite quorum. I, therefore, ask for the Quorum Bell to be rung for five minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Order! You may stop the Bell because we have so far...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Proceed, Sen. Mungatana.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Proceed, Sen. Kavindu Muthama.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Proceed, Sen. Cherarkey.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Next Order. MESSAGE FROM THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY APPOINTMENT OF MEMBERS TO THE JOINT COMMITTEE ON ELECTION OF EALA MEMBERS The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Hon. Senators, I wish to report to the Senate that pursuant to Standing Order No.46 (3) and (4) , I have received the...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, you have the Floor.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Let us go to the next Order. PAPERS LAID REPORTS OF THE AUDITO -GENERAL ON FINANCIAL STATEMENTS OF VARIOUS ENTITIES

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Let us move on to the next Order. October 19, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 8 STATEMENTS INCESSANT HUMAN-WILDLIFE CONFLICT IN TAITA-TAVETA COUNTY

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Mwaruma, the approved Statement is substantially different from what you have just read out. Could you confirm the genuine Statement so that we know which one to go by. You may want to approach the Clerk’s desk to confirm that. (Sen. Mwaruma approached the Clerk-at-the-Table)

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Very well. Hon. Senator and that is why we need to verify because it is an approved Statement that carries the day, not any other Statement. Sen. Mwaruma, you may take your seat. I think we have managed to get to know where the problem is...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Hon. Senator, that matter has been dealt with. Let us now listen to Sen. Olekina, please.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Proceed Sen. Osotsi. STATE OF HEALTHCARE AT VIHIGA COUNTY HOSPITAL

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Senator, unfortunately she is very lucky, I did not see her. So, she may get away with that. (Laughter) October 19, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 13

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Permission was not granted. Once the Statement is committed, at some opportune moment, you will have that opportunity to do exactly what you are doing. Once you have read, let us leave it at that.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Proceed to make the Statement please. ACQUISITION AND DISTRIBUTION OF RELIEF SUPPLIES TO MARSABIT COUNTY

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe, you may proceed.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) I believe that the requests that are on the screens are for contributing to the two Statements made by Sen. Chute. If you do not intend to speak to those Statements, please exit the screen so that we pick the Members who would wish to speak...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Cheptumo, you may proceed. October 19, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 15

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) I will give to one Senator from each side. We will hear from Sen. Mungatana, and then immediately after him, we will have Sen. Olekina from this other side. Sen. Mungatana, MGH: Mr. Speaker, Sir, I thank Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe on this issue of drought. As...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise on Standing Order No.53 (a) . Last week on Thursday, there was an Adjournment of Motion to discuss the matter of drought in Kenya. You note that during the debate on that Motion, most Senators could not contribute on that very...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Mr. Speaker, Sir, thank you. I begin by thanking the distinguished Senator of Samburu County for raising this matter which we must talk about on a daily basis. When you wake up in the morning and watch Cable News Network, Inc. (CNN) , they will give...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, thank you. I begin by thanking the distinguished Senator of Samburu County for raising this matter which we must talk about on a daily basis. When you wake up in the morning and watch Cable News Network, Inc. (CNN) , they will give you the news. Twenty...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Thank you Mr. Speaker, Sir---.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Bw. Spika, nimefurahia kusikia wageni kutoka Kaunti ya Embu wametutembelea. Ninawakaribisha waje waone vile tunafanya kazi. Ni Baraka kuwa nao hapa. Bw. Spika, mjue kwamba kuna njaa katika Kaunti ya Embu. Kuna njaa kule Kiambere na Mutuobare. Mbuzi wanakufa na miraa imekauka. Kwa hivyo, ninaomba---

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Bw. Spika, ni sawa. Nikimalizia, tunapoongea mambo ya janga la njaa, mkumbuke Kaunti ya Embu kuna njaa. Tuangalie jinsi tunaweza kuchimbiwa mabwawa ili tuweze kuwa na kilimo kizuri.

Bw. Spika, ni sawa. Nikimalizia, tunapoongea mambo ya janga la njaa, mkumbuke Kaunti ya Embu kuna njaa. Tuangalie jinsi tunaweza kuchimbiwa mabwawa ili tuweze kuwa na kilimo kizuri. October 19, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 19 The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Kibwana, please proceed. CIRCUMSTANCES THAT LED TO THE DEATH OF MASTER...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Mr. Speaker, Sir, the story of Travis is a sad one. The mother lost her two-year-old simply because she had gone to a public hospital which is supposed to offer services in this country. As mothers, we go through pain if we are not attended to...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Hon. Senators, sometimes it is not good for the Chair to micromanage Members. If you know well that the window that we have to comment on a weighty matter is 15 minutes and every Senator wishes to contribute, the Chair does not need to micromanage you....

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. You need to protect me from Sen. Korir because you are the only one who can rule me out of order. Mr. Speaker, Sir, you need to provide further guidance in view of Standing Order No.53. It talks about 15 minutes, but...

I am well guided, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I have a second Statement. I do not know whether I should proceed. The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Hon. Senator, proceed. DIVERSION OF RIVERS ORIGINATING FROM NYAMBENE HILLS AND MT. KENYA

I rise Pursuant to the Standing Order No. 53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Lands, Environment and Natural Resources concerning the diversion of the rivers originating from Nyambene Hills and Mt. Kenya by the locals in the neighboring Meru County. In the Statement, the Committee...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I have been given authority to read the Statement on behalf of Sen. Orwoba. The same has been communicated to the Clerk and approval sought and granted. I rise Pursuant to Standing Order No. 53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)B. County Public Investments and Special Funds CommitteeC. Committee on Delegated Legislation APPROVAL OF SENATORS TO SERVE IN SELECT COMMITTEES A. County Public Accounts Committee B. County Public Investments and Special Funds Committee C. Committee on Delegated Legislation The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Oyomo, proceed.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am happy that I have been given the remaining minutes from my contribution yesterday. I only used one minute to contribute and the House adjourned. I stand to support and appreciate the leadership of the House for the selection of the Senators to these crucial committees...

I, therefore, support the composition of the three committees that were presented to the Floor.I thank you.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Order, Members! What are the murmurs for? We have quorum to transact our Business. Clerk, please read the first Order. COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR VISITING DELEGATION FROM KAREN C SCHOOL The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Hon. Senators, I would like to acknowledge the presence in the Public...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Very well, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale. If you are aware, the Hon. Senator for Nairobi City County is among the new Senators. Certainly, he has taken up the advice. Next Order. Proceed the Senate Majority Leader. PAPERS LAID

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Next Order. October 6, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 164 BUSINESS FOR THE WEEK COMMENCING TUESDAY, 11TH OCTOBER, 2022

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Next Order. THANKS FOR PRESIDENTIAL ADDRESS DURING OPENING OF THE 13TH PARLIAMENT The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Hon. Senators, we now resume debate on this Motion which started yesterday. I now call upon call Sen. Maanzo to proceed.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Cherarkey, I have been keenly listening to Sen. Maanzo. What he is doing is to propose what the Government ought to follow. That is the route towards introduction of GMOs and it should be cautionary. I did not hear at any one given moment him...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Hon. Senator for Nairobi City County, the Hon. Senator is referring to notes. You can see her eye contact, 80 per cent of her eyes are up and very less per cent are down.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Hon. Senator, your time is unfortunately up. Proceed, Sen. Madzayo. The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Madzayo) : Asante, Bw. Spika.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)upande huu isije ikawa inaingiliwa zaidi kutokana na sababu ya hoja za nidhamu zinazotoka upande wa Serikali. Ama pengine hawataki upande wa Upinzani uweze kuendelea na Hoja hii.Kwa nini upande huu hauna hoja nyingi za nidhamu kama upande wa walio wengi? Kwa nini ni mtu mmoja anazua...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)(Applause)An Hon. Senator: Cite the Standing Order. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise on a point of order where an Hon. Member is misleading this House. We understand the President was in this Senate yesterday. I would want to know--- (Loud Consultations) The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)(Loud...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) We need to lay this rather not so important issue to rest. Sen. Madzayo, may I inform you that leadership of Parliament was fully informed of the presence of His Excellency the President. Kindly, proceed to make your contribution on the speech. The Senate Minority Leader...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. We are now used to--- The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) What is your point of order?

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. The President addressed the joint sitting of Parliament in compliance with Article 132 of our Constitution. I listened to him carefully when he addressed the House. Thereafter, I went through the speech and I am happy to note that he came...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)tune of Kshs34 billion. How much do we give them every financial year? It is not more than Kshs18 billion. Half of their budget is not availed.I am happy that the President of the Republic of Kenya has agreed to implement and actualize Article 173 of the...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. The President addressed the joint sitting of Parliament in compliance with Article 132 of our Constitution. I listened to him carefully when he addressed the House. Thereafter, I went through the speech and I am happy to note that he came out clearly on how...

I am happy to be in this House. I know that we will work hard to ensure that we do what the President encouraged us to do in Paragraphs 14 and 15 of his Address. I am also happy that he promised to run an administration which is open, transparent...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)that I can use to demonstrate to the public that any other person who stands here is a stranger is one of our own. Hypothetically, if Sen. Crystal Asige, the nominated Senator, would have come on the day when the President was addressing the two Houses of...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)(Applause)

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I thank you for giving an opportunity as part of the Senate to record my thanks on the Speech of the President during the opening of the 13th Parliament. However, before I do that, let me also appreciate the young men and women who have visited the...

that I can use to demonstrate to the public that any other person who stands here is a stranger is one of our own. Hypothetically, if Sen. Crystal Asige, the nominated Senator, would have come on the day when the President was addressing the two Houses of Parliament, she would...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I now get into a very important issue. I hope this House will take very careful measures in agreeing to it. In line No.20 of his Address – I will read it in order to be able to prosecute it – the President said; “We are...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Hon. Senators, we have the quorum. Clerk, you may proceed with the next Order. ADMINISTRATION OF OATH

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Hon. Senators, it is my pleasure and privilege to welcome you to this first regular Sitting of the Senate, following the opening of the 13th Parliament on Thursday, 29th September, 2022. October 4, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 1 The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)Shortly, the Senate Business Committee (SBC)...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) What is your point of order? POINT OF ORDER DESIGNATION OF THE MAJORITY PARTY/COALITION IN THE SENATE IN LINE WITH ARTICLE 98(1) OF THE CONSTITUTION, THE ELECTIONS ACT AND THE POLITICAL PARTIES ACT

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Cheruiyot, proceed.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Olekina, proceed. October 4, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 5

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Proceed, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Hon. Senators, kindly let us listen to Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale in silence. October 4, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 6

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Proceed, Sen. Wambua.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Proceed, Sen. Cherargei.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Order! Hon. Members, Sen. Cherargei is on a point of order. Allow him to conclude then you will be given an opportunity. (Several Members consulted loudly) The Senator is on a point of order.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Hon. Senators, the submissions by Sen. (Prof.) Tom Ojienda were very powerful yet inappropriate at this time. I have not received any notification from any Senator that they have resigned. As we sit here no Senator has passed on or resigned. The resignation of Hon. Wetangula...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Let us go to the next Order. NOTICE OF MOTION APPROVAL OF SENATORS TO SERVE IN THE SENATE BUSINESS COMMITTEE

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Let us go to the next Order. APPROVAL OF SENATORS TO SERVE IN THE SENATE BUSINESS COMMITTEE

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, can you conclude moving the Motion? (An hon. Senator spoke off record) October 4, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 10

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Hon. Senators, the reason we are called honourable people is because we are expected to act honourably. You do not need to shout because we have the technology. If you look in front of where you are seated, there is a gadget which you should press...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) I will allow Senators to make their contributions before we move on. Sen. Cheptumo for Baringo County, you may have the Floor. October 4, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 11

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. (Dr.) Oburu, at some point I thought you are opposing. Sen. Gloria you may have the Floor.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Omogeni, what is your point of order?

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Hon. Senators, Sen. Murkomen is on a point of order.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Sifuna, what is your point about?

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Thang’wa, please proceed. October 4, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 16

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. M. Kajwang’, please proceed.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Methu, you have the Floor

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Ali Roba, please, proceed. (Loud consultations)

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Let us not blow hot and cold at the same time. At one point, Sen. Ali Roba is being claimed on this side. At another point, he is being pushed by the very same side to the other side. Let us be consistent and not blow...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Faki, proceed.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Hon. Senators, nothing new has been brought up by the first four Senators who have tried to canvass this particular point of order. We are repeating the same thing. Therefore, hon. Senators, the Speaker does not manage political parties. Any senator can be nominated to serve...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Proceed, Sen. Nyamu.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Absolutely and I reserve the right to recall it. Sen. Olekina, you are a senior seasoned Senator. Please note that Sen. Nyamu is making her maiden speech. Proceed, Sen. Nyamu.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Proceed, Sen. Sifuna.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Wambua, we have given room for ventilation on that particular issue and a ruling was made by the Chair. We are now contributing to the main Motion. It is either you oppose or support. Please, proceed, Sen. Wambua.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Wambua, the ruling stands. Let us listen to Sen. Gataya.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Proceed, Sen. Murkomen.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. (Prof.) Tom Ojienda, SC proceed.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Hon. Senators, we cannot continue prosecuting a matter that I have already ruled on. I have allowed the points of order, given time for Members to ventilate and proceeded to rule, and the rule stands.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Cheptumo, what is your point of order? October 4, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 26

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Hon. Senators, rising on a point of order is within your right as a Senator. However, you cannot be on your feet on a point of order on a matter that I have ruled. Therefore, opportunities will be given for points of order, but they should...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Madzayo, what is your point of order? I hope that point of order---

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Olekina, we know that this Senate is guided by Standing Orders; you need not to scream about it. Senator for Kilifi, proceed.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Order, Members!

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Can we have order! Order! October 4, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 27

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Senator for Kilifi, can you resume your seat please. Hon. Members, and more particularly the Senator for Kilifi. After the Mover moved the Motion, you seconded this Motion. (Loud consultations) The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Proceed, Sen. Chute. The Senator for Marsabit (Sen. Chute Said Mohamed) :...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Order, Members! Sen. Olekina and Sen. Madzayo, you are stretching the Chair’s patience. Kindly allow the Member to conclude his contribution. (Loud consultations)

Sen. Madzayo supported the Motion fully. If you would like to make any changes on the other side or you do not have somebody who can help, we can provide one for you. I thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for ruling on this issue. These people are trying to see---...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Hon. Senators, indeed this is a House of procedure, guided by the Standing Orders. As such, it would be improper for a Member, however polite, to challenge the ruling of the Chair. We have given opportunity to Members to canvass and contribute on that particular point...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Mr. Speaker, Sir, of course, I will cite Sen. Kajwang. (Loud consultations) Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for giving me this opportunity. I had requested to speak, to say exactly what you have said; that the Minority side seems to be taking us in circles, a...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)(Loud consultations)

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I am addressing the Chair. (Loud consultations)

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for protecting me. My point of order is a rider on what Sen. Cheruiyot has said. We accept the new Members to make their Maiden Speech. However, if they make controversial statements, we have a right to intervene. You should allow us to do that....

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Order, Members!

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Proceed, Sen. Mandago.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)benefit. I am here not to laugh at anybody because this is not an English class. As you put it, it does not matter whether you speak in Kiswahili or English. We are here to state facts.I would like to acknowledge the Senate Majority Leader who was...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise to fully support this Motion. I have looked at that list of the nominees to the Senate Business Committee and it goes without saying that this is a very crucial Committee in this House. I have had the chance to work...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Having read the mood of the House, I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.109 that you may call the Mover to reply. (Loud consultations) Mr. Speaker, Sir, clearly, the hon. Senator for Nyamira is casting serious aspersions against a...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, with tremendous respect for the Senator for Kakamega and whose son was a faithful member of the Law Society of Kenya (LSK) , I do not see any point of order in what he has just said. I beg that I proceed. If Sen (Dr.) Khalwale wants...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)(Laughter) The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Hon. Senators, I wish to see those who are yet to contribute to this Motion. Sen. Montet Betty, proceed.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)and someone will argue that it will take six months to bring back this Motion. What will happen to the Senate if we do not have a SBC and a Motion cannot be brought back---

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Mr. Speaker, Sir, I know we are pressed for time. I would have made arguments to explain why my colleagues, on the minority side, are extremely wrong to imagine that Sen. Ali Roba belongs to their side of the coalition. However, I will stick to only...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)Finally, Sen. M. Kajwang’ said that Sen. Ali Roba is married to Azimio-One Kenya Coalition. In Nairobi, for example, there is something called “kukula fare.” If you gift a lady and she accept it, that should not be considered to be consent to full rights of her...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, my point of order is that it is not in the place of Sen. Cheruiyot or any of us here to determine the unconstitutionality of any law or tradition as set out under Article 2 that he is quoting for you. So, if--- (Loud Consultations) The Speaker...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)(Loud Consultations) (Loud Consultations)

Bw. Spika, sijachangia Hoja hii ya kuundwa kwa Kamati. Nimezungumza kwa hoja ya nidhamu. The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Just a minute, Sen. Faki. (The Speaker Consulted the Clerk at the Table) The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) He spoke on a point of order and not the substantive Motion. Proceed, Sen. Faki.

Bw. Spika, Kamati inayobuniwa ni muhimu kwa Bunge la Seneti. Ni Kamati ambayo itatoa mwongozo kwa kazi yote inayoendeshwa katika Bunge hili. Kwa hivyo, hatuwezi kupuuza hii Kamati. Kama Bunge la Seneti na ikiwa hili ndilo swala letu la kwanza ambalo liko mbele yetu, ni lazima tufuate sheria kulingana na...

Kwa hivyo, mpaka sasa na kulingana na stakabadhi zilizotolewa ni kwamba chama cha UDM bado kiko katika mrengo wa Azimio-One Kenya. Sheria inawatambua kama wanachama wa mrengo wa Azimio-One Kenya mpaka watakapojitoa katika mrengo huo. Kwa sababu hiyo, mwanachama wa mrengo wetu hawezi kupendekezwa na upande wa pili.Sen. Cheruiyot amesema...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Cherarkey, kindly address the Chair. Can we be orderly?

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Cheruiyot and Sen. Madzayo kindly approach the Chair. (Sen. Cheruiyot and Sen. Madzayo approached the Chair) Hon. Senators, kindly resume your seats. Senators, the Speaker is upstanding kindly do what the Standing Orders require of you. Hon. Senators, the Senator for Kilifi County rose on...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Hon. Senators, pursuant to Standing Order No.84 (2) , I now make a determination that this particular matter does not affect counties. Therefore, voting shall be by voice. (Question put and agreed to) (Several Senators rose in their places)

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) The Nays have the numbers. Therefore, under Standing Order No. 88, may the Division Bell be rung for five minutes. (The Division Bell was rung for five minutes) Hon. Senators, can we take our seats please. (Loud consultation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for giving me...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Clerk, you may now proceed to call the individual Senators in the alphabetical order. (Roll Call voting in progress) (Loud consultations) Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. The contributions that have taken place this afternoon have converged, apart from only one point. That is the so called...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Order, Members! What are the murmurs for? We have quorum to transact our Business. Clerk, please read the first Order. COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR VISITING DELEGATION FROM KAREN C SCHOOL The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Hon. Senators, I would like to acknowledge the presence in the Public...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Very well, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale. If you are aware, the Hon. Senator for Nairobi City County is among the new Senators. Certainly, he has taken up the advice. Next Order. Proceed the Senate Majority Leader. PAPERS LAID

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Next Order. BUSINESS FOR THE WEEK COMMENCING TUESDAY, 11TH OCTOBER, 2022

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Next Order. THANKS FOR PRESIDENTIAL ADDRESS DURING OPENING OF THE 13TH PARLIAMENT The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Hon. Senators, we now resume debate on this Motion which started yesterday. I now call upon call Sen. Maanzo to proceed.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Cherarkey, I have been keenly listening to Sen. Maanzo. What he is doing is to propose what the Government ought to follow. That is the route towards introduction of GMOs and it should be cautionary. I did not hear at any one given moment him...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Hon. Senator for Nairobi City County, the Hon. Senator is referring to notes. You can see her eye contact, 80 per cent of her eyes are up and very less per cent are down.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Hon. Senator, your time is unfortunately up. Proceed, Sen. Madzayo. The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Madzayo) : Asante, Bw. Spika.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)(Loud consultations)

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Mr. Speaker, Sir, this is a House of traditions, practices and usages. October 6, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 16

Mr. Speaker, Sir, this is a House of traditions, practices and usages. The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) When the Chair is speaking, Sen. Cherarkey, you take your seat. Sen. M. Kajwang’, order please. Hon. Senators, we are here to transact very serious business. Of course, it is within your right as...

On a point of order, Speaker, Sir. The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Wambua, what is your point of order?

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise under Standing Order No. 121 (1) (a) , (b) and (c) . Mr. Speaker, Sir, since the beginning of this Session, the hon. Senator for Nandi County has in every twist and turn created disorder by rising on frivolous point of orders. I invite the...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)(Applause)An Hon. Senator: Cite the Standing Order. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise on a point of order where an Hon. Member is misleading this House. We understand the President was in this Senate yesterday. I would want to know--- (Loud Consultations) The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. The custodian of the rules of this House is both the Speaker and the Clerk. I understand the President was here yesterday. Is it in order when an hon. Senator stands and says that the President came here without informing anyone? The President can only...

I will cite it at the end. It does not say you cite it when you stand. (Loud consultations) The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Hon. Senators, we cannot degenerate into shouting at each other. The Chair gives opportunity to each one of us to speak. When given that opportunity, let the...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. We are now used to--- The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)Mhe. Rais katika Hotuba yake hakuangalia njia mwafaka ya Serikali kutatua janga la ukame na njaa. Hakueleza ni jambo gani ambalo Serikali yake itafanyia wafugaji ambao mifugo yao yanamalizwa na janga la njaa.Ninatoka katika maeneo ninayoyafahamu sana....

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. The President addressed the joint sitting of Parliament in compliance with Article 132 of our Constitution. I listened to him carefully when he addressed the House. Thereafter, I went through the speech and I am happy to note that he came...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)I am happy that the President of the Republic of Kenya has agreed to implement and actualize Article 173 of the Constitution so that we have the Judiciary Fund. That is the only way we can ensure that Kenyans access justice. We need enough money to build...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. The President addressed the joint sitting of Parliament in compliance with Article 132 of our Constitution. I listened to him carefully when he addressed the House. Thereafter, I went through the speech and I am happy to note that he came out clearly on how...

His proposal is for both Houses of Parliament to amend the Standing Orders to allow Cabinet Secretaries to appear before us, so that we can ask them questions and raise issues which concern our people. In my view, it was clear that the President had nothing to hide. All he...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)We would wish to have him sit here so that Sen. Wambua and Sen. Olekina question him directly and not through proxies in the name of chairpersons, where they go and meet CSs behind doors and discuss some things, when whey come before the House, they want...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Next, let us have Sen. Crystal Asige.

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)Mr. Speaker, Sir, as a former leader in this House, allow me just a minute because this is extremely important. I am privy to a conversation you have had with the President and your brother, who is vying for a position in the National Assembly. If that...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)Senator, who is a woman, we are looking forward to a House where we can give meaningful contributions as nominated Senators, and particularly, as women.I do not have much to say today, but to congratulate you and the Deputy Speaker. I urge my fellow nominated Senators, particularly...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Mohamed Chute, you may proceed. The Senator for Marsabit County (Sen. Mohamed Said Chute) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, I take this opportunity to thank the Almighty God for the opportunity that he gave us to serve our country. Secondly, I take this opportunity to congratulate...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Mungatana, proceed. The Senator for Tana River County (Sen. Danson Mungatana) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, I want to join my colleagues who have expressed their congratulations to you. From Tana River County where we are neighbours with where you come - from Kilifi County -...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)I wish to add my voice in approval of sentiments by Sen. Okiya Omtatah. Indeed, it is true. This Senate, unlike the two previous Parliaments, deserves four slots just like our colleagues in the National Assembly.As much as the Chair is appointed by edicts of the Constitution,...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)“Chebukatic” because he followed the law the way it is supposed to. I thank you, Clerk of the Senate.Mr. Speaker, Sir, this House will go down in history as one that has many firstborns of devolution.I believe we are not less than five former Members of County...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Chesang for Trans Nzoia County, you may have the Floor. The Senator for Trans Nzoia County (Sen. Allan Chesang) : Thank you, Mr. Speaker Sir. On behalf of Trans Nzoia County and the youth of this country, I congratulate you and your deputy. I thank...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Chimera, I allowed you to continue speaking because it is your Maiden Speech. However, we do not mix languages. If you choose to speak in Kiswahili, you go all out for Kiswahili. If you choose English, you speak English. For today, you will get away...

The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Hon. Senators, we have come to the conclusion of business appearing on today’s Order Paper. Standing Order No. 24 (1) provides that the President shall address the opening of each newly elected Parliament. Consequently, the date of the opening of Parliament shall be determined after consultations...

Thank you Mr. Speaker, Sir. From the onset, on behalf of the great people of Nandi County and myself, I congratulate you plus your Deputy. We wish you well. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have worked with you before when I was the Senate Chairperson of the Justice and Legal Affairs...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise to thank and congratulate you on your election and that of your able Deputy, with whom we had a chat yesterday. I also congratulate all Senators who have been elected or nominated to this House. Mine is to wish you well and pray that the...

Thank you Mr. Speaker, Sir. I congratulate you on your election as our Speaker. In 2007, we were together with you in this Chamber during the Grand Coalition Government. I also served with you in the Cabinet and, thereafter, you served as a governor for two terms. You are a...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I take this opportunity to thank the Almighty God for the opportunity that he gave us to serve our country. Secondly, I take this opportunity to congratulate you and your able Deputy for this election. I congratulate fellow Senators; both nominated and elected for this opportunity. Thank...

Shukurani Bw. Spika. Nakushukuru kwa kunipa fursa hii ili niweze kukupongeza kwenye nafasi hii uliyoipata. Nimeinua mkono sana kwa sababu nilitakaa wakenya wasikie sisi wapwani ni watu wa aina gani. Sisi wapwani ni watu wakarimu na Serikali ya William Samoei Ruto pamoja na wajumbe wote waliokupigia kura ya kwamba hii...

Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker, Sir. Today is a big day for Kenyans because you and you brother, Kathuri Murungi, who happens to be my neighbour at home, have been voted overwhelmingly by almost every Member who was in this House simply because people know you. I have been...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I thank you for this golden opportunity. I take this opportunity to thank the Almighty God for giving you this opportunity. I come from the furthest corner of this nation, Turkana County. In that County, there are so many extreme challenges. However, with the confidence that we...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, may I first take this opportunity to congratulate you and your able Deputy on your election. Secondly, I congratulate my fellow Senators who have been elected to serve in this House. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I served with you in the Council of Governors (CoG) for two terms....

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I take this opportunity to highly congratulate you. Being a Nominated Senator, it is a first September 8, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 38 The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) journey. I am delighted to be part of the process that I have seen today; a process for the changes that...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. First, allow me to congratulate you for your well-deserved win. I do not know whether they have told you that I was your agent in this election. Therefore, most likely, I will see you after this Sitting. (Laughter) September 8, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 39 The...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, may I take this opportunity to congratulate you on your election as the Speaker. I believe this is a great moment for Kenya. We have got the best Speaker we could get in the Senate today. We looked at the Curriculum Vitaes (CVs) , which were presented...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I want to join my colleagues who have expressed their congratulations to you. From Tana River County where we are neighbours with where you come - from Kilifi County - we want to give our congratulations to you. Quickly, I want to speak to two issues. We...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Congratulations on your election together with your Deputy, my good friend, Sen. Kathuri. People have spoken of the very serious reasons they voted for you. I also did for serious reasons, but for unserious ones as well. One of the unserious reasons I voted for...

Asante, Bw. Spika, kwa kunipa nafasi kusimama mbele yako na suti yangu ya manjano. Kwa niaba ya watu wa Kirinyaga, nakupongeza kwa kuchaguliwa Spika wa Seneti. Ningependa pia kumpongeza Sen. Kathuri na Maseneta wote ambao walichaguliwa. Sina mengi ya kunena leo kwa kuwa tutapewa nafasi ya kutoa hotuba zetu. Waswahili...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker Sir, for having your eye on the other end of Kenya; from your end to the other end. I congratulate you and your deputy on being elected Speaker and Deputy Speaker of this House. I also congratulate my colleagues for being elected Senators to be in...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I also take this opportunity to congratulate you and your deputy on being elected here today. In fact, you got 100 per cent because the total votes cast were 46, and you got all of them. Like my colleagues, I also had my reasons for...

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I congratulate you on being elected the Speaker of the Senate. I also congratulate your able deputy. I had various reasons for voting for you. One of them is that you got into leadership position at a very young age. Someone believed and...

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise to first congratulate you on your election. It is a confirmation of the confidence that Members of this House have in you. As my colleague has said, getting 100 per cent of the votes is a confirmation of the confidence that...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I take this opportunity to congratulate you on being elected as the Speaker of the Senate, together with your Deputy Speaker. On behalf of the people of Kajiado and myself, we appreciate and thank God for this enormous election that has taken place this afternoon....

Thank you, Mr. Speaker Sir. On behalf of Trans Nzoia County and the youth of this country, I congratulate you and your deputy. I thank the people of Trans Nzoia for electing me because where I come from, it is believed that the Senate is for old people. I take...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker Sir. To whom much is given, much is expected. I believe you are in that seat today courtesy of what my colleagues have said. I echo the words of Sen. Danson Mungatana that sisi wapwani tunafurahi kwamba leo mpwani mwenzetu amekaa katika kiti cha enzi pale....

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for giving me this opportunity to give my Maiden and acceptance speeches as the Deputy Speaker of this House. First, I congratulate you on your election as our Speaker in this noble House. You and I have won in the first round. We won unhindered...