Amason Jeffah Kingi

Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Hon. Senators, kindly take your seats. Clerk, kindly call the first Order. MESSAGE FROM THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY PASSAGE BY THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY OF THE CONSTITUTION...

Next Order. Proceed, Senate Majority Leader. NOTICES OF MOTION APPOINTMENT OF SEN. MADZAYO AND SEN. OKENYURI TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES FOR THE POST-SERVICE MEDICAL SCHEME FOR MPS

Senator for Nairobi City County, proceed. STAFF WELFARE AT CHANDARANA FOOD PLUS SUPERMARKET CHAIN

The Senate Majority Leader, proceed. BUSINESS OF FOR THE WEEK COMMENCING TUESDAY, 22ND JULY, 2025

Hon. Senators, before we move to the next Order, I have this Communication to make. I would like to acknowledge the presence in the Public Gallery this afternoon, of visiting teachers and students from Ikundu Primary and Junior School in Murang’a County. The delegation comprises 46 students and five teachers...

Majority Leader, you cannot dictate how the Chair is going to handle his business. Hon. Nyutu, in under one minute, kindly extend one word of welcome.

Next Order. APPROVAL OF SENATE NOMINEES FOR APPOINTMENT TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF THE POST-SERVICE MEDICAL SCHEME FOR MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT The Senate Majority Leader.

Hon. Senators, the Floor is open for debate. Remember that this matter was elaborately explained to us during our last Naivasha Retreat. It was adequately interrogated by us during that meeting. Therefore, I would urge you instead of spending more time to debate on the same matter that was explained...

Next Order. ADOPTION OF MEDIATION COMMITTEE REPORT ON THE GAMBLING CONTROL BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.70 OF 2025)

Yes, Hon. Sigei.

Now, the Floor is open for debate. Senator for Nandi County, proceed.

Sen. Faki.

Sen. Mungatana.

Proceed, Sen. Olekina.

Thank you, Sen. Eddy. Sen. Crystal Asige, proceed. I apologise for the fault on your console. We were not able to see your name.

Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes? (The Quorum Bell was rung) Hon. Senators, we do have quorum. So, we will--- (Sen. Nyutu consulted loudly) Order, Sen. Nyutu. Clerk, you may proceed to call the first Order....

Next Order. QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS STATUS UPDATE ON THE SOLARISATION PLAN FOR WIKITHUKI IRRIGATION SCHEME

Hon. Cabinet Secretary, you may proceed to respond. However, your written response has been circulated to all hon. Senators and, therefore, you need not read verbatim. To save on time, you may just highlight the response that you have already filed. You may proceed. The Cabinet Secretary for Water, Sanitation...

Hon. Cabinet Secretary, you may respond. The Cabinet Secretary for Water, Sanitation and Irrigation (Hon. (Eng.) Muriithi Mugaa) : Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, and hon. Wakoli for the question. As I have indicated in my responses, this programme was done between 2013 and Sen. Seki, proceed.

Sen. Gataya Mwenda, proceed.

No, allow the Cabinet Secretary to respond. Sen. Mungatana, proceed.

Sen. Kavindu, proceed.

Hon. Cabinet Secretary, you may now respond. The Cabinet Secretary for Water, Sanitation and Irrigation (Hon. (Eng.) Muriithi Mugaa) : Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. The first question was on the plan to do a 1,000 dams to completion. I have to be very candid with yourself and also the...

Hon. Cabinet Secretary, you may now proceed to respond. The Cabinet Secretary for Water, Sanitation and Irrigation (Hon. (Eng.) Muriithi Mugaa): Mr. Speaker, Sir, in response to the Question by Sen. Mundigi, Kamumu Dam is a zoned high rock filled dam that is 60 metres high, 725 metres long, that...

Hon. Cabinet Secretary, you may respond. The Cabinet Secretary for Water, Sanitation and Irrigation (Hon. (Eng.) Muriithi Mugaa) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, I thank the hon. Member for that question. As I have explained, the three dams are in the pipeline for the PPP and the resources we have in...

Sen. Cherarkey.

Sen. Chute. Sen. Chute: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Sir. The Cabinet Secretary was talking about concept note and availability of funds. The Kenya Kwanza Government promised 1,000 dams. So far, I want to ask the Cabinet Secretary, out of the three dams, he has gotten zero. So, that...

Asante, Bw. Spika. Ninataka

Mr. Speaker, Sir, my question is to the Cabinet Secretary. I want to know the status of rehabilitation of Sing’ore Dam, which is supposed to benefit the community and Sing’ore Girls High School.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Under part (b) of the Question, the Cabinet Secretary has talked about PPPs. I want to ask him, what is the success rate of these PPPs and what are the statistics? Have you done any successfully? Have you found any investor interested to work with...

Hon. Cabinet Secretary, you may proceed to respond. Before you respond, let us take just one question from Sen. Kavindu Muthama. I want to know from the Cabinet Secretary about Maruba Dam, where it is and if there is any allocation this financial year to complete the works. It is...

Senator for Kilifi County, you do not rise on a point of order against the Cabinet Secretary. Allow the Cabinet Secretary to conclude. I will give directives on the issue you have raised about Rare. Proceed, Hon. Cabinet secretary. Senator for Kilifi County, you do not rise on a point...

Clerk, kindly usher in the hon. Cabinet Secretary in charge of Roads and Transport. [The Cabinet Secretary for Roads and Transport (Hon. Davis Chirchir) was ushered into the Chamber] Welcome, hon. Cabinet Secretary. You have nine questions to respond to this morning. Therefore, this is my guidance as far as...

Hon. Cabinet Secretary, you are responding to Question No.69 by the Senator for Murang’a County. The Cabinet Secretary for Roads and Transport (Hon. Davis Chirchir) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, the person who has my papers has been locked outside. Sorry about that, Sen. Joe Nyutu, Senator for Murang’a County. I...

Proceed, Sen. Maanzo. Cabinet Secretary, does it not have a security bearing and is it not better for you to work in conjunction with the police if you have to utilise private hired vehicles? Is it not a collusion between yourselves and private people, so that they make money from...

Hon. Cabinet Secretary, you may respond. The Cabinet Secretary for Roads and Transport (Hon. Davis Chirchir) : Mr. Speaker, Sir and hon. Members, regarding periodic maintenance contracts, I indicated that private contractors are like any contractor. Therefore, you do not expect them to use KeNHA vehicles. Regarding supervision and inspecting...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, the Cabinet Secretary (CS) has talked about Public Private Partnership (PPPs) in relation to construction of bridges. What are his statistical successes? Are foreign partners or private partners willing to partner with them? What are the statistics of successful PPPs in his Ministry, especially in relation to...

Airport, Mombasa, they will not get into darkness that has been experienced due to long, delayed construction.Sen. Manzo has raised a question on the success of PPP projects on bridges. My response is that there will be PPP programmes that can work in areas where there is significant traffic. The...

talking about the Mtwapa-Kilifi Road. This is the Nyali Bypass to Mtwapa-Kilifi Road or Mombasa Road.I know the exact location. In my last visit to Mombasa, this was number one agenda with the Governor, where on either side of this road, where there is a kind of depression, there are...

We now move to Question No.85 by the Senator for Kilifi. You may proceed to ask the Question. Sen. Madzayo, Question No.85 is yours. The Senate Minority Leader (

are currently under review by the NLC. The Authority is further undertaking design and land requirement assessment for Malindi Phase II expansion project to allow a runway expansion from 1.4 kilometres to 2.4 kilometres. This followed the setting aside of injunction imposed on Phase II acquisition project vide a ruling...

Asante, Bw. Spika. STATUS OF THE PLANNED EXPANSION OF MALINDI INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT Hon. Cabinet Secretary, you may proceed to respond. The Cabinet Secretary for Roads and Transport (Hon. Davis Chirchir) : Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Thank you, Sen. Madzayo. Again, because the question was filed in English, I responded in...

Senator for Nandi, please take your seat. (Sen. Cherarkey spoke off record) You are scheduled. I will call you. Sen. Sifuna: Mr. Speaker, Sir, thank you. I think Members have forgotten that there was an advisory that priority would be given to the Senators who asked questions, and then we...

Let us proceed. Proceed, Sen. Sifuna.

Senator for Nandi, please take your seat. (

You may proceed, Honourable CS. The Cabinet Secretary for Roads and Transport (Hon. Davis Chirchir) : Mr. Speaker, sir, I beg to respond. The transport sector is recognised as a key pillar and a critical enabler in achieving Vision 2030, a long-term development strategy and the bottom-up economic transformation agenda....

Hon. Senators, take your seats. We now have quorum. Clerk, kindly call the first Order. COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR VISITING DELEGATION FROM NYAIKUNGU PRIMARY SCHOOL, KIRINYAGA COUNTY

Next Order. PAPERS LAID

Next. REPORT ON THE GAMBLING CONTROL BILL, (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILL NO.70 OF 2023)

Next Order. NOTICE OF MOTION INSTALLATION OF CCTV CAMERAS IN ALL POLICE STATIONS, CELLS AND POLICE REPORTING DESKS THE KENYAN NATIONAL COUNCIL FOR POPULATION AND DEVELOPMENT BILL, (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILL NO. 72 OF 2023) Next Order. THE CULTURE BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.12 OF 2024) Next Order. Proceed, Chairperson, Select...

Hon. Senators, I will now propose the question. (Question proposed) Hon. Senators, the Floor is open for debate. However, this being a procedural Motion, the Committee is merely seeking an extension of time for them to complete their work. With your concurrence, I will straightaway put the question and voting...

Thank you, I will proceed to put the question. (Question put and agreed to) Hon. Senators, pursuant to Standing Order No.45 (2) , allow me to reorganise the sequence of today's Order Paper. We will proceed to Order No.17 and thereafter, proceed to Order No.18. Once we are done with...

Order. You cannot invoke Standing Order No.1; it is not available to you. Proceed to conclude.

You may proceed.

Senator for Kakamega County, you can do whatever you wish with the information you have been given. (Sen (Dr.) Khalwale spoke off record)

Hon. Boni, you refer to your colleague as Hon. Senator.

Sen. Faki.

Senate Majority Leader, please proceed.

Proceed, Senator for Nairobi City County.

Clerk, do we have quorum? Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly, ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) We do have quorum now, so we will start the day's business. Clerk, kindly call the first Order. (Sen. Kisang’ and Sen. Maanzo stood at the door) Sen. Kisang’ and Senator...

Next Order. MESSAGES FROM THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY APPROVAL BY THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY OF THE CULTURE BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.12 OF 2024) Hon. Senators, I wish to report to the Senate that pursuant to Standing Order No.46 (3) and 4, I have received the following Message from the Speaker of...

The Chairperson, Standing Committee on Labour and Social Welfare, proceed. REPORT ON THE LABOUR MIGRATION AND MANAGEMENT (NO.2) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.42 OF 2024)

The Chairperson, Standing Committee on Finance and Budget, proceed. REPORT ON THE EQUALISATION FUND APPROPRIATION BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.7 OF 2025)

Let us go to the next Order. QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS STATEMENTS CONDUCT OF MR. PETER AYIRO, A SENIOR TEACHER AT ALLIANCE GIRLS HIGH SCHOOL

Sen. (Prof) Margaret Kamar, proceed. CONTINENTAL CONSULTATIONS ON DRAFT MODEL LAW ON LABOUR MIGRATION IN AFRICA

What is the point of order, Senator for Kilifi County? The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Madzayo) : Asante, Bw. Spika. Tunaona

Hon. Senators, the point of order that has been raised by the Minority Leader is extremely valid. There must be order when we are conducting our business in the House. We have given a lot of latitude to Members and we are beginning to feel a little bit more comfortable...

Hon. Senators, allow me to rearrange the Order Paper. There are three statements that we will come back to under Standing Order No.53 (1) . We will move to Order Nos.8, 9 and 10, and thereafter, resume the normal flow as contained in today's Order Paper. (Interruption of Statements) Clerk,...

The Senator for Nairobi City County, the Sen. Edwin Sifuna. STATUS OF STALLED DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS IN NAIROBI CITY COUNTY

The Senator for Kakamega County, the Sen. (Dr.) Boni Khalwale. LOSS OF LIVES AND DESTRUCTION OF PROPERTY ON 25TH JUNE, 2025 AND 7TH JULY, 2025

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for this opportunity. I commend the Statement by Sen. Edwin Sifuna because there are many challenges, especially in stalled projects. I challenge the Standing Committee on Devolution and Intergovernmental Relations to give us an audit of all stalled projects across the 47 counties. As you...

Mhe. Spika, ningependa pia kutoa kauli yangu kuhusu Taarifa iliyoletwa Bungeni na Seneta wa Kaunti ya Kakamega. Ni kweli kwamba maandamano yaliyotokea hivi juzi yalileta hasara kubwa na maafa kwa Wakenya wengi, wengine wao wakiwa wafanyibiashara ambao hawakuhusika kabisa na maandamano hayo. Maandamano yanahabirika wakati baadhi ya watu wanalipa watu...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise to give support to the Statement by Sen. Faki on access to the Port City of Mombasa. Mombasa is among Africa's foremost cities, known globally, and celebrated for its rich culture and source of entertainment, and listed even on some of the best exploration sites...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I would like to comment on Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale's Statement. All of us should be able to adhere to the rule of law. The Constitution is clear, and whenever somebody offends the law, they should be able to face the law fairly so. What we...

Bw. Spika, ningependa kuchangia kidogo kuhusu Taarifa ambayo imeletwa na Seneta wa Kakamega. Kuna mambo matatu ambayo yalitokea na lazima tuyang’amue yote. Kwanza ni kuwa kulikuwa na wakora walioingilia maandamano ya Gen Z. Vile vile, kulikuwa na wapita njia ambao waliuawa ilhali hawakuwa katika maandamano. Nasema hivyo kwa sababu kuanzia...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise to support the Statement raised by the Senator for the great County of Mombasa. While I support it, I would like to inform Senators that I am aware that as of 4th October, an additional carrier, that is Turkish Airlines, was granted frequency of about...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, allow me to support the Statement by Sen. (Prof.) Kamar regarding consultation of the draft model of the law on labour migration. This is because I have a Bill which I am happy is at the Committee of the Whole stage. The issue of migrant workers cutting...

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. (Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale spoke off record)

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise to also support Sen. Kibwana’s Statement which---

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am well guided. I had already commented on a Statement under Standing Order No.52 (1) by Sen. (Prof.) Kamar, but it was not intentional. I will proceed to make my comments on Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale's Statement in regards to loss of lives and injuries. A few...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker, Sir, for giving me the opportunity to comment on Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale's Statement. The issue of exercising the freedom in Article 37 of our Constitution is getting out of hand. The exchanges we have make it look as if demonstration is a matter of the police...

Sen. Kisang.

Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Hon. Senators, we now have quorum. We will proceed with the day's business. Clerk, proceed to call the first Order. The Chairperson Standing Committee on...

Next Order. QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS STATEMENTS CONTINENTAL CONSULTATION ON DRAFT MODEL LAW ON LABOUR MIGRATION IN AFRICA BUSINESS FOR THE WEEK COMMENCING TUESDAY, 15TH JULY, 2025

Next Order. THE SOCIAL PROTECTION BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.12 OF 2025) Hon. Senators, we will move to Order No.12 before we come to Order No.9. Go ahead, Sen. Abass. ADOPTION OF REPORT ON BRANDING PUBLIC PROJECTS/COUNTY VEHICLES WITH IMAGES OF GOVERNORS AND MCAS

What is your point of order, Sen. Kinyua?

Proceed, Sen. Abass.

What is your point of order, Senator for Meru?

Hon. Senator for Meru, while you were consulting with me, Sen. Abass requested Sen. Kisang to second. Since I could not speak while you were talking to me, I nodded, giving permission for him to proceed. So, conclude, please.

Hon. Senators, I will defer the proposing of the question, so that we dispense with Order No.9, which we had gone halfway yesterday. Before I allow this Clerk to call Order No.9, allow me to make this communication. (Interruption of Debate on Motion) COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR VISITING DELEGATION FROM...

Clerk, kindly call Order No.9. (Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale walked into the Chamber) Senator for Kakamega County, welcome to the Senate. [The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) left the Chair] [The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Veronica Maina) in the Chair] COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE IN THE COMMITTEE THE CONFLICT-OF-INTEREST BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO....

Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly, ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Order, hon. Senators. We now have quorum. We will proceed with the day’s business. Clerk, kindly, proceed to call the first Order. FORCED DISAPPEARANCES OF...

The Chairperson, Standing Committee on Trade, Industrialisation and Tourism, proceed. REPORT ON CONSIDERATION OF THE STARTUP BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.14 OF 2022)

The Chairperson, Standing Committee on Labour and Social Welfare, proceed. REPORT ON CONSIDERATION OF THE SPORTS (AMENDMENT) (NO.2) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.45 OF 2024)

Sen. Murgor, when you are laying a Paper on the Table, you need to be at the Dispatch Box. (Sen. Murgor walked to the Dispatch Box)

Sen. Catherine Mumma, proceed. That is dropped. REPORT ON THE 2025 IPU HEARING HELD IN NEW YORK REPORT ON THE 67TH CPA CONFERENCE HELD IN SYDNEY NOTICES OF MOTIONS ADOPTION OF REPORT ON PETITION ON FAILURE BY KBL, KAPLAN & STRATTON ADVOCATES AND HARRISON KINYANJUI ADVOCATES TO PAY COMPENSATION AWARDED...

Sen. Richard Onyonka, proceed. This business is dropped. ESTABLISHMENT OF ADDITIONAL DIASPORA VOTER REGISTRATION AND POLLING CENTRES countries and progressively decentralize voter registration and polling services from embassies to community-accessible venues to facilitate wider participation;2) IEBC rolls out civic education and voter sensitization campaigns within diaspora communities through digital and...

Senator for Samburu County, the Hon. (Dr.) Lelegwe, proceed. The Statement is dropped. PERSISTENT SHORTAGE OF ESSENTIAL MEDICINES AND NON-PHARMACEUTICALS IN SAMBURU COUNTY RICE IMPORTATION QUOTA GRANTED TO BUSINESS BAY SQUARE (BBS) MALL IN EASTLEIGH

Senator for Kisumu County, the Hon. (Prof) Tom Ojienda. DEMOLITIONS IN KORANDO-TIENGRE AND OTHER PARTS OF KISUMU COUNTY

Proceeed, Senator Eddy, for and on behalf of Sen. Sifuna. CONTINUED LACK OF ELECTRICITY IN PARTS OF NAIROBI CITY COUNTY

Sen. Haji, you have the Floor. OUTSTANDING PERFORMANCE BY FAITH KIPYEGON AND BEATRICE CHEBET IN OREGON, USA

Hon. Senators, we will comeback to this Order for purposes of getting comments from Hon. Senators. For now, pursuant to Standing Order No.45 (2) , allow me, for the convenience of the House, to rearrange today’s Order Paper. We will now move to Order Nos. 8, 9 and 10, then...

Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for another 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Order, hon. Senators. We now have quorum. Kindly take your...

Sen. Wamatinga, take your seat. Hon. Senators, I now similarly invite Counsel for the Governor to introduce the legal team representing the Governor by stating the full name and designation of each person. You may proceed, Counsel. INTRODUCTION BY THE ISIOLO COUNTY GOVERNOR’S TEAM

Sen. Onyonka, take your seat, please. Now, Hon. Senators, on behalf of the Senate, I welcome the team for the County Assembly, the team for the Governor, members of public and the media to this Senate and to these proceedings. Finally, I now invite the Clerk to call the next...

Counsel for the County Assembly, please, proceed.

Counsel for the County Assembly, just take your seat I have a communication to make. COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR EXTENSION OF SITTING TIME I, therefore, direct that the County Assembly may utilise its remaining 10 minutes, so that the Senate shall adjourn at 1.10 p.m. or such earlier time as...

Thank you. ADJOURNMENT Hon. Senators, it is now 1.14 p.m., time to adjourn the Senate. The Senate, therefore, stands adjourned until later today, Tuesday, 8th July, 2025 at 2.30 p.m. The Senate rose at 1.14 p.m.

Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Speaker) We do have quorum. Therefore, we shall proceed with the business of the afternoon. Clerk, kindly call the first Order. HEARING AND DETERMINATION OF THE PROPOSED REMOVAL FROM OFFICE, BY IMPEACHMENT, OF HON. ABDI IBRAHIM HASSAN, THE GOVERNOR OF...

Hon. Senators, we will now move to clarifications for half-an-hour. If you get an opportunity to seek for clarification, kindly, keep it under two minutes, so that we can hear a number of you. As you take to the Floor to seek your clarifications, kindly, indicate from whom you are...

Proceed, Sen. Maanzo.

Proceed, Sen. Karungo.

Proceed, Sen. (Prof.) Tom Ojienda.

Proceed, Sen. Mungatana.

Proceed, Sen. Osotsi.

Senator for Nandi, Sen. Cherarkey.

Sen. Enoch, proceed.

Sen. Wakili Sigei, proceed.

Sen. Mumma, proceed.

Sen. (Dr.) Boni, proceed.

Sen. Mundigi, proceed.

Sen. Kavindu, proceed.

Sen. Karen Nyamu, proceed.

Sen. Omtatah, proceed.

Sen. Methu.

Sen. Peris Tobiko, proceed.

If it has already been asked, Hon. Senator---

Hon. Senator, the advocates are not under oath because they are not witnesses in this matter. Sen. Mo Fire, proceed.

No. Sen. Essy Okenyuri, proceed.

Sen. Kinyua, proceed.

Sen. Murango, proceed. SUBMISSIONS BY THE COUNSEL FOR THE GOVERNOR AND THE COUNTY ASSEMBLY ON CLARIFICATIONS BY HON. SENATORS

Counsel for the Governor, there is a request that has been put forth by the Counsel for the County Assembly, to play a certain video in proof that indeed the sittings took place.

(Loud Consultations)

No, Hon. Senators! Again, I am going to say, it is your case. If that video proves that the conditions were such that a sitting could not take place, how is it going to aid your case? However, it is your case, you can proceed. (Loud Consultations) It is a...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, we are about to play a video, and I am responding to the concern that was raised. It is not to demonstrate that the circumstances were that it was not possible to hold a sitting. Our position is that there was a sitting of

(Loud consultations)

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. May I have a sight of my time? I will take seven minutes and my learned colleague, Mr. Theuri, will take eight minutes. For the record, my name is Elisha Ongoya. Allow me to start with the question raised by the Senate Majority Leader on...

Counsel for the Governor, you may proceed. You have 15 minutes to make your rebuttal.

Hon. Speaker, what I said was stolen is the video records of the HANSARD of the 26th. The audio recording of the proceedings of that day is available. That is what we request your leave, Hon. Speaker, to file with the Office of the Clerk. The audio recording of the...

Hon. Senators, following the commencement of the process of the proposed removal from office, by impeachment, of Hon. Abdi Ibrahim Hassan as Governor of Isiolo County, the firm of Theuri Wesonga, the advocates representing the Governor raised in writing, pursuant to Rule 14 of the Third Schedule of the Rules...

Well, there is certainly no way we can accept further evidence that had not been submitted as part and parcel of your bundle of evidence.

Next Order. The Senate Majority Leader, you may proceed. NOTICES OF MOTIONS RESOLUTION OF THE SENATE TO UPHOLD PRELIMINARY ISSUE ON WHETHER THE COUNTY ASSEMBLY OF ISIOLO HELD SITTINGS ON 18TH AND 26TH JUNE, 2025

Next Order. Motion RESOLUTION OF THE SENATE TO UPHOLD PRELIMINARY ISSUE ON WHETHER THE COUNTY ASSEMBLY OF ISIOLO HELD SITTINGS ON 18TH AND 26TH JUNE, 2025

A point of clarification. (Applause) Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.111 of our own Standing Orders on limitation of debate. I need not to buttress the fact that this is an extremely important Motion. I am sure many colleagues would want to comment on this Motion,...

I understand that these two matters are related.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I was speaking to the Motion which is whether there was a sitting and the question of whether it is a question to be put is what I am addressing, with due respect. I have heard senior colleagues in the profession and I have tremendous respect for...

I have given guidance.

I am lost.

The beauty with our proceedings unlike the ones in Isiolo County Assembly is that we are live on TV, the HANSARD is here and it can be read back. He said it was not possible, the circumstances obtaining on that day.

Asante, Bw. Spika, kwa kunipa hii nafasi. Hapo awali kabla sijakuwa Seneta, nilikuwa mwakilishi wadi katika Gatuzi ya Kirinyaga. Zaidi, nilikuwa Kiongozi wa Wengi. Wakati huo huo, tuling’atua gavana, tukamleta hapa na akarudi, na ni sawa, bado pia yuko. Kuna umuhimu kwa kikao cha bunge la gatuzi kukaa mahali ambapo...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for the opportunity to contribute to this Motion. We have sworn to uphold the law and every process which goes on in the county assemblies, in this Senate or in any House has to follow the law. In the case of Kenya, it has to...

Sen. Maanzo.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. The matter before us is very weighty. The issue of there not being a sitting is not a matter that we can take lightly. I have

Sen. Osotsi, please proceed.

Sen. Bonni, please proceed.

Conclude on your point of order.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like Sen. Boni Khalwale to withdraw those words that he has used and apologize to those lawyers, because if we go that way we are degenerating to very funny things. Mr. Speaker, Sir, you know I chair this House. If you discuss anything to do...

Order, Hon. Senators! Allow the Hon. Senator to proceed. Proceed to withdraw.

Order, hon. Senators! There is only one Chair in this proceeding. (Loud consultations)

Mr. Speaker, I would like to strongly support that this Motion sails, so that the MCAs can go and put their act together. We would like to sit on an impeachment process which---

Mr. Speaker, Sir, as I apologise, I conclude--- (Laughter) Mr. Speaker, I would like to strongly support that this Motion sails, so that the MCAs can go and put their act together. We would like to sit on an impeachment process which--- Hon. Senator, for the record, you were to...

Order, hon. Senators. Order, Senator for Nandi. Proceed, Sen Wambua.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I want to submit, just like my colleagues have submitted, that the process of anything is as important as the result because justice must be served to all parties. In this particular case, we have the County Assembly on one side and the Governor of Isiolo County...

(Loud consultations)

Order, hon. Senators. What Sen. Nyutu has said is that if you need to remove our President from office, you need to use the constitutional means, which is a fact. Please conclude.

Order, hon. Senators. What Sen. Nyutu has said is that if you need to remove our President from office, you need to use the constitutional means, which is a fact. Please conclude.

Order, hon. Senators. Sen. Nyutu, just take your seat. (Sen. Joe Nyutu sat at his place) Sen. Nyutu, I have given you latitude; do not abuse it. As you make your comments, leave alone the name of the President. Please proceed.

Next is Sen. Faki.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, the jurisprudential contours of impeachment are embedded both in procedure and in substance and now well set in the case of Martin Nyaga Wambora and County Assembly of Embu. I took part in the case. I also took part in the case of Mohammed Abdi Mohammud and...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I stand to support the Motion, albeit reluctantly. The reason is that this preliminary objection had two counts. One is clear, in my view and the other one - the one we are discussing currently - unfortunately, we did not get the instance to interrogate...

Sen. Mumma, proceed.

Sen. Thang’wa, proceed.

Asante sana, Bw. Spika, kwa kunipa fursa hii. Kwanza kabisa, swali ambalo tunapaswa kujiuliza pingamizi hii ya awali inaletwa kwa nini? Ni vizuri kwa sababu, katika Seneti hii na vile vile katika gatuzi zetu, tunapaswa kufuata sheria. Ni kinaya ikiwa tunatunga sheria, lakini hatuzifuati sheria zenyewe. Ukiangalia katika Taarifa Rasmi...

Sen. Kinyua, you may proceed.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, you need to protect me from the Senate Majority Leader because he is telling me something in my local language. Under Article 126, the law is very clear on the sittings of Parliament. If some of us are saying that the process is not important, however, the...

Proceed, Sen. Cherarkey.

Senator Chimera, conclude your submissions.

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Order, Senator Maanzo. Senator for Nandi when were you admitted to the bar?

vilikuwepo. Jambo la muhimu ni kwamba, je vilikuwa vikao halisi ama gushi? Iwapo vilikuwa vikao halisi, ni lazima wajieleze.Jambo la pili ni video ambayo nimeona iliyoonyesha ofisi iliyovunjwa na vifaa kuharibiwa. Imenipa taswira ya maandamano yaliyokuwepo juzi kwamba Isiolo kuna wahuni na majambazi. Iwapo ni hivyo, lazima tuwafuate na wakamatwe...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker, for this opportunity to make a brief comment. (Loud consultations) Mr. Speaker, Sir, what I am saying is what is good for the goose must equally be good for the gander. The last impeachment we had was for the Governor of Kericho County and this Senate...

(Loud consultations)

evidence from the counsels of the county assemblies. Though I am not a lawyer, I could easily guess from the counsels of the county assemblies that most of the evidence that they brought before this House were cooked. In this matter, I want to categorically state that the county assembly...

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Sen. Mo Fire. (Loud consultations)

Sen. Kisang, please, proceed.

Sen. Miraj, please, proceed.

ya sheria ambazo tumezitunga sisi kama wajumbe katika Taifa hili, zinaweka vikwazo na kutufanya kuwa hatuwezi kuingia kuangalia ushahidi ule. Sheria lazima isimame kwa sababu msumeno unakata mbele na nyuma.

Sen. Wakili Sigei.

Sen. Miraj, please, proceed.

Order, hon. Senators. Kindly hear Hon. Veronica in silence.

Sen. Wakili Sigei.

Sen. Mandago, please proceed.

Order, hon. Senators. Kindly hear Hon. Veronica in silence.

Sen. Crystal Asige.

Sen. Mandago, please proceed.

Sen. Methu, please proceed.

Proceed, Sen. Tabitha Keroche.

Next is Sen. Peris Tobiko.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I also want to place emphasis on the significance of procedure in the impeachment process. The essence of following

Proceed, Sen. Tabitha Keroche.

Proceed, Sen. Mwaruma.

I thought that Professor had six more seconds. Professor, could it be that you got emotional and could not speak?

Lastly, we will hear from the Senator for Isiolo County. As is our tradition, the host Senator normally gets more time. Therefore, Hon. Senator, I will give you 10 minutes.

You cannot impute improper motive on your colleagues. If you want to proceed in that manner, you know what to do; substantive motions.

So, Sen. Abass and the team that serves with you in the Committee on Devolution and Intergovernmental Relations, I want to request that the same way that you have committed and said that there are many issues that you think need to be resolved--- For example, Sen. Fatuma Dullo, our...

(Loud consultations)

Order, hon. Senators.

Order, hon. Senators. Allow the Senate Majority Leader to substantiate.

Hon. Senators, I direct the Serjeant-at-Arms to ring the division bell for five minutes.(The Division Bell was rung)Order, Hon. Senators. The five minutes rung for the Division Bell is a long spent. Kindly take your seats. Serjeant-at-Arms, you may now proceed to lock the door and draw the bars.(The door...

Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted the Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Hon. Senators, we now have quorum. Kindly take your seats, so that we proceed with today’s business. Clerk, you may proceed to call the first Order....

Who is your seconder? Let us move to the next Order. ADOPTION OF REPORT OF THE MEDIATION COMMITTEE ON THE DIVISION OF REVENUE BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.10 OF 2025) The Senate Minority and Majority Leaders, kindly approach the Chair. (Sen. Cheruiyot and Sen. Madzayo consulted the Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly...

Hon. Senators, as you may have noticed, the Senate Majority Whip moved the Motion at Order No.9 on today’s Order Paper for establishment of a special committee to investigate the proposed removal from office, by impeachment, of Hon. Abdi Ibrahim Hassan, the Governor of Isiolo County, but the Motion was...

Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted the Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly, ring the Quorum Bell for another 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Hon. Members, we do have a quorum now. Therefore, we will...

Next Order. NOTICE OF MOTION ADOPTION OF REPORT OF THE MEDIATION COMMITTEE ON THE DIVISION OF REVENUE BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.10 OF 2025)

Next Order. ADOPTION OF REPORT OF THE MEDIATION COMMITTEE ON THE DIVISION OF REVENUE BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.10 OF 2025)

Hon. Senators, I will now propose the question. Sen. Ali Roba, kindly take your seat. (Question proposed) The Floor is open for debate. Proceed, Sen. Mundigi.

Sen. Mungatana.

Next is Sen. Joe Nyutu.

You have made your point of order. Proceed, Sen. Nyutu.

Sen. Nyutu, the point of order raised is that you have made an assertion to the effect that the Governor of Nairobi City County is using resources to pay goons. Do you have evidence to that effect and can you substantiate that statement? If yes, proceed to substantiate. If you...

Sen. Nyutu, let us make this short, so that you proceed with your wonderful intervention on this report. You have made an assertion and the HANSARD is there. You either substantiate or withdraw.

Proceed, Sen. Abass.

Do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted the Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Hon. Senators, we now have quorum. Clerk, proceed to call out the first Order. MESSAGE FROM THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DECISION ON THE MUNG BEANS BILL...

Sen. Kisang, proceed.

The Chairperson, Standing Committee on Information Communication and Technology. REPORT ON CONSIDERATION OF THE TECHNOPOLIS BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.6 OF 2024)

Hon. Senators, as you may have noted, the Senate Majority Leader laid on the Table of the Senate this afternoon the report of the National Treasury and Economic Planning on all new loans contracted by the Government of Kenya from 1st January, 2025 to 30th April, 2025. The report by...

Before I asked the Clerk to call the next Order, I have a Communication to make. Hon. Senators, kindly take your seats. COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR VISITING DELEGATION OF EMBU COUNTY ASSEMBLY COMMITTEE ON DELEGATED LEGISLATION Hon. Senators, I would like to acknowledge the presence in the Speaker's Gallery this...

Senator for Kilifi County, please, take your seat. COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR SENATORS TO OBSERVE PROVISIONS OF SENATE STANDING ORDERS DURING DEBATES be referred to adversely, except upon a substantive Motion of which at least three days’ notice has been given.”This prompted several points of order from the Senator for...

Senator for Nairobi City County, proceed.

Hon. Senator for Nairobi City County, you are out of order. If you read Standing Order No.101, you cannot discuss the conduct of the Speaker in the manner you are doing. Go back to Standing Order No.101 and appreciate its contents. For as far as this point of order raised...

Senator for Nakuru, I can assure you that balance will be guiding on the applicability of Standing Order No.101. Yes, Nominated Senator Veronica, certainly it is not a point of order.

Sen. Veronica, let us not generate this into an argument. Have your seat, Sen. Veronica. Senator for Nakuru, I have given you a lot of latitude to ventilate your matter. I advise you because what I picked from your lengthy intervention is; as we seek to protect, we are not...

Secretariat, can you make copies of the report that has been tabled by the Justice Legal Affairs and Human Rights Committee (JLAHRC) available to all the Senators? Next Order. QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS STATEMENTS Statements pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) . Sen. Hamida Kibwana, you may proceed.

SAFETY OF POTATOES GROWN IN NYANDARUA COUNTY

Next Statement. MEASURES IN PLACE TO ENSURE REVIEW OF CONSTITUENCY BOUNDARIES

Sen. Mwaruma. DISCREPANCIES BETWEEN SUPPLEMENTARY BUDGET I AND II FOR FY2024/2025 IN TAITA TAVETA COUNTY

Sen. Karungo. INCREASED LAND AND BUILDING RATES IN KIAMBU COUNTY GOVERNMENT

Sen. Omtatah. OPERATIONAL STATUS OF THE NATIONAL POLICE SERVICE COMMISSION

Thank you. The Senator for Kisumu County, Sen. Tom Ojienda. ROLE OF TECHNOLOGY IN ENHANCING TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY IN PUBLIC PROCUREMENT IN NATIONAL AND COUNTY GOVERNMENTS

The Senate Majority Leader. BUSINESS THE WEEK COMMENCING TUESDAY, 8TH JULY, 2025

Order, Hon. Senators. May the Senate Majority Leader be heard in silence. Let us take our seats, Senators for Taita Taveta, Nyandarua and Mandera counties. You may proceed, Senate Majority Leader.

Order, Hon. Senators. Before I allow comments on the Statements that have been sought, we will move to handle Order No.8. (Interruption of Statements) Clerk, you may proceed to call that Order. ADOPTION OF REPORT ON THE FOURTH BASIS FOR ALLOCATING SHARE OF NATIONAL REVENUE AMONG COUNTIES Ksh. 389.425 billion}....

Hon. Senators, Sen. Omogeni having dropped his amendment means we are back to the original Motion as drafted by the Committee on Finance and Budget. So, we are now proceeding to debate the original Motion. Sen. Wambua, you may take the Floor.

What is your point of order, Senator for Nandi County?

Senator for Nandi County, just take your seat. The Senator for Nyamira County, having withdrawn his proposed amendments, we reverted to the original Motion. I called upon the Senator for Kitui County to make his comments on the original Motion. While supporting the Motion, he came up with amendments, which...

That is noted, Senator for Nandi County. Have a seat, Senator for Kitui. Senator for Nandi, Sen. Samson Cherarkey, some things are really unnecessary.

Order, hon. Senators.

Hon. Senators, these proposed amendments are very key and it is good that you get to understand what the hon. Senator is proposing in order to vote based on information that you understand. Proceed, hon. Senator.

Hon. Senators, please let us take our seats. Hon. Senators, I will now proceed to propose the Question. (Question proposed) Hon. Senators, these are proposed amendments to the main Motion. In the main Motion, you are entitled to 20 minutes, if you take to the Floor contributing. These are proposed...

Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly, close the doors and draw the bar (The Bar was drawn and the doors closed) Hon. Senators, we are now going into Division on the Motion as amended. Therefore, I will proceed to put...

Order, Hon. Senators.

Clerk, as the Serjeant-at-Arms covers the Mace, kindly usher in the Cabinet Secretary and his team. (The Mace was covered) [The Cabinet Secretary for Interior and National Administration (Hon. Kipchumba Murkomen) , the Inspector General of Police (Mr. Douglas Kanja) , the Vice-Chairperson of the National Police Service Commission (Mr....

Sen. (Dr.) Boni, if you listened to my Communication, the last paragraph was to that effect. That whatever is going to be transacted in this particular session will input the report of the Standing Committee on National Security, Defence and Foreign Relations. If you were here yesterday, you are aware...

Yes, Sen. Wambua

Yes, Senator for Nandi County.

Hon. Senators, for purposes of bringing clarity to this session, this is not a Committee of the Whole. The House is suspended. We have just suspended the sittings of the Senate pursuant to Standing Order No.38. Therefore, this is not a Committee of the Whole. I do not need to...

When we resume the official sitting of the Senate and such a request is made, I will certainly give guidance on that particular matter. Yes, Sen. Dullo.

Hon. Dullo, no resolution will be passed in this session. Whatever happens here will only serve as input for the Committee’s work. The Committee should proceed with its sittings uninterrupted. However, it will benefit from the interaction we are going to have in this session. Proceed, Sen. Kajwang’.

That is very valid. Hon. Senators, we need to start this session. Following on what the hon. Senator for Homa Bay County has said, we are here to hear nothing but the truth. The only way we can get the truth is when statements are made under oath. (Applause)(Loud consultations)...

Hon. Cabinet Secretary, you may now proceed. If there are some aspects that you need your team to also take to the stand on, you may allow them. You may proceed. The Cabinet Secretary for Interior and National Administration (Hon. Kipchumba Murkomen): Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I am here...

Hon. Senators, you will have an opportunity to speak.

Sen. Sifuna, you cannot tell me ‘no.’ (Sen. Sifuna spoke off record) Sen. Sifuna, you are treading on very dangerous grounds. All Senators will have an opportunity to speak. Allow the IG of Police to take the Floor. IG, you may proceed. The Inspector General of Police (Mr. Douglas Kanja)...

Hon. Senators, the Motion that just passed indicated that we are suspending the Sitting for not more than two hours. We have already consumed more than one hour. It is a Motion that you have passed. Therefore, whatever is remaining must be transacted within the remaining minutes that we have....

This is because I may not have a question to the Hon. Cabinet Secretary, but my question may, for example, be directed to IPOA. So, we may agree to hear all the parties that are before us and then if you take to the Floor, you direct the question to...

I have that power, Hon. Senators, under Standing Order No.38, but I can only exercise it if I see the time that we have being utilised for the purpose that has brought us here. If that is proven to me, I will have no problem extending. However, I will never...

On 7th of June 2025, at around 8.00 a.m., a team comprising of Sergeant Sigei, Sergeant Wesley Kipkorir Kirui, PC Dennis Kenyoni, PC Milton Mwanze and PC Boniface Rapudo went to Lida Centre in Homa Bay County and arrested the deceased at around 2.30 p.m. and took him to Mawego...

The Directorate of Criminal Investigations (DCI) The Director, Directorate of Criminal Investigations (Mr. Mohammed Amin) : Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Mine is to join my colleagues first in really expressing my sincere condolence to the family, relatives and friends of the deceased, the late Albert Ojwang’. It was indeed a...

Sen. Methu, proceed. There are no speeches.

Sen. Methu, do not engage your colleagues. Just proceed.

Order, Hon. Senators. One, let me just direct you. I will not take any points of order. We have just suspended the Sitting. Therefore, we are here not strictly enforcing the Standing Orders. Allow the Hon. Senator to proceed. You have made a basis for your question, proceed to ask...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I have listened to the IG of Police very keenly. I would like to know the specific brief that led to the suspension of the officers at Central Police Station.

Sen. Boni, proceed.

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charged? If I could get those three specific items, I would appreciate and know that for sure something is being done to give justice to the family of this deceased young man.I thank you.

things he spoke and stood for while in this House continue to happen unabated under his watch. He was very articulate and eloquent when talking about the killings in Elgeyo Marakwet and Baringo counties. However, they are still happening today. He was very articulate one time when the police came...

Haya maswali tunataka yajibiwe. Wakenya wanataka kujua, je, ni nini kilichoendelea usiku huo ili asubuhi huyu kijana awe amefariki?Asante.

Sen. Omogeni, please, proceed.

Finally, this is to Cabinet Secretary, Hon. Murkomen. You were our colleague in the last Parliament. Chapter 14 of the Constitution has 10 Articles. You know that Article 240 establishes the National Security Council (NSC). Article 240(3) states that-“The Council shall exercise supervisory control over national security organs and perform...

them explain. If they say they were given authority to say or do something, we should know.My colleagues will agree with me that we can suspend any other business. Actually, Order No.9 is a report by Liaison Committee. I am not ready to move that Motion until we get clear...

Just proceed, Sen. Wambua.

confirmed that Albert was in good physical health at the time when he was booked in the police cell?If that question is answered, then it will lead to a lot of other conclusions. Was this man okay when he was being booked in the police cell? IG of Police, who...

would ask the Cabinet Secretary, Hon. Murkomen, even if it means amending the law that governs cybercrime, something has to be done, so that we correct that situation where our children and even politicians, fix each other. That law must govern that particular act properly.

Sen. Abass, you may proceed.

Cabinet Secretary, Hon. Kipchumba Murkomen, Sen. Wambua said you can and should do better. I totally agree with him. You said you have no eyes, yet we have seen you recently having very sharp eyes on political comments made by individuals. You have actually been calling for the arrest of...

(Loud consultations)

Hon. Senators, it is now one minute to 1.00 p.m., which is the time for the House to adjourn. Looking at the business that still lies ahead of us, we certainly cannot conclude in less than a minute. I will, therefore, be amenable to allow this debate to proceed at...

Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly usher in the witnesses, please. [The Cabinet Secretary for Interior and National Administration (Hon. Kipchumba Murkomen) , the Inspector General of Police (Mr. Douglas Kanja) , the Vice-Chairperson of the National Police Service Commission (Mr. Edwin Cheluget) , the Director, Directorate of Criminal Investigations (Mr. Mohammed Amin) and...

That is why we wanted them to step aside to allow free investigations because we wanted expeditious investigations to be carried out. We want to know who this is or who are these who committed that heinous crime. I would like to know that as quickly as possible.There was a...

Sen. Mungatana is clear. IG, please proceed. The Inspector General of Police (Mr. Douglas Kanja) : Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. It is true, as Sen. Mungatana has said, that going by the report that we have gotten from IPOA, that it is not true. He did not hit his...

Proceed, IG. The Inspector General of Police (Mr. Douglas Kanja) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, in relation to the question that was asked by Sen. M. Kajwang’, I would like to assure the House that all the four who were mentioned are alive. I will give an answer, but the rest...

Hon. Senators, let him conclude. We will get better responses from IPOA. IG, before you proceed, Sen. Mandago, what is your intervention?

Proceed, IG. The Inspector General of Police (Mr. Douglas Kanja) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, there was another question by Sen. Wambua. He wanted to know whether the Officer Commanding Station (OCS) confirmed if Albert Ojwang’ was fine when he was booked in. I answered that earlier. I said that when...

Hon. Senators, I am taking notes. Sen. Wambua, I will come back to you. Just run through the questions that you have. We will certainly have an opportunity, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, to seek clarification on the questions that we feel have not been satisfactorily answered.

been put forth by the IG. If the IPOA representative was not here, then a lot would have been left hanging. So, hon. Senators, let us be patient.Proceed. The Inspector General of Police (Mr. Douglas Kanja): Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I can probably read a small part of my...

The Inspector General of Police (Mr. Douglas Kanja): Mr. Speaker, Sir, the DCI has a unit that deals with serious crimes and although he is going to give details on the matter, in that unit, he has those who record the statements, those who are investigating on other bits of...

offence that can be committed even when somebody is on a journey. So, it has a national jurisdiction.Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale alluded to the fact that we did not have a court order. I state very clearly that we do not require a court order to move a suspect from one...

Sen. Ali Roba, just take your seat. I remember that Sen. Nyutu had not concluded when we adjourned. Therefore, let him conclude.

Sen. Crystal Asige.

Sen. Tobiko, please, proceed. Sen. Crystal Asige, do not worry, I will take care of that. Just have your seat

Sen. Mumma, please, proceed.

Sen. Kinyua, please, proceed.

Sen. Beatrice Akinyi.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, can I be heard in silence, please? Mine is a simple question. Part of it was answered by the Vice-Chairperson of IPOA when she responded to the questions. The last part I want to ask is coupled with a short statement. In processing the persons that have...

Proceed, Sen. Hezena.

Sen. Mo Fire.

Sen. (Dr.) Oburu.

Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe, please, proceed.

Order, hon. Senators! May the Senator for Makueni County be heard in silence.

Sen. Seki, please proceed.

Sen. Betty Montet, the Floor is yours.

Sen. Wakili Sigei.

Proceed, Sen. (Prof.) Kamar.

Proceed, Senator for Nandi County.

Proceed, Sen. Hamida.

Next is Sen. Mundigi.

(Laughter)

Sen. Kisang.

Sen. Essy Okenyuri, you may proceed.

Sen. Mariam Omar.

Sen. Asige, I will give the one minute that you lost when you were asking your question.

Hon. Senators, I will now allow the witnesses led by the Cabinet Secretary to respond to the many questions that you have raised. Before I allow the Cabinet Secretary to take to the stand, Sen. Karungo wa Thang’wa, while asking a question, indicated that the IG of Police had said...

If that inhumanity in our police force is not stopped, I do not think we have a country. They just watched and listened to the cries of that pregnant woman who was accused of stealing Kshs9,000 only. That is money that could have been paid even by her family. If...

IG of Police, you have two minutes, DCI, two minutes and IPOA, two minutes then we will conclude. The Inspector General of the National Police Service (Mr. Douglas Kanja) : Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Sir. A question has been asked on who my key suspects are. That question...