Catherine Muyeka Mumma

Sen. Mumma Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I beg to give Notice of the following Motion on behalf of Sen. Veronica Maina and on my own behalf- THAT, AWARE THAT Articles 43 (1) (f) and 53 of the Constitution of Kenya guarantee every child the right to education, protection, safety and...

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Sen. Mumma) : Sen. Mumma) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that the County Governments Additional Allocations Bill, (Senate Bills No.8 of 2026) , be now read a Third Time. I request Sen. Sifuna to second. June 17, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 54

Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the Senate its consideration of the County Allocation of Revenue Bill (Senate Bills No.10 of 2026) and its approval thereof with amendments. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) Hon. Senators, kindly stay on for a short...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I request Sen. Wambua to second.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I second. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) June 17, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 55

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that the County Governments Additional Allocations Bill, (Senate Bills No.8 of 2026) , be now read a Third Time. I request Sen. Sifuna to second.

I second. (Question proposed) The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Hon. Senators, when the Chair puts the question for Third Reading, there is a window to contribute. That is why the Chair usually pauses to see whether any Member wishes to contribute. That is from experience. (Question proposed) We are now...

I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I request Sen. Madzayo to second.

Sen. Mummanafasi ya kujisaidia. Vilevile itazuia mambo mengine ambayo watu wabaya wanaweza kutumia kufanya kutokana na shida ambazo wananchi wanapitia.Kwa hivyo, Bw. Spika wa Muda, nawasihi wenzangu tupitishe Mswada huu. Naomba sana wenzangu katika Seneti tupitishe Mswada huu kwa sababu kuna kitengo cha wananchi ambao wanasumbuka. Kuna walaghai ambao wameingia...

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The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Mumma) Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker and Sen. Oketch for seconding the Bill. County governments play a pivotal role in devolved governance. This Senate should act to regularise the laws which have already been passed in order to cover the loopholes which the governors have been...

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. Madam Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the County Governments Laws (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bills No.14 of 2025) and request for it to be read now a Second Time pursuant to Standing Order No.146 of the Senate Standing Orders. June 17, 2026 SENATE DEBATES...

Madam Temporary Speaker, this Bill seeks to amend the County Governments Act, Cap 26 of the Laws of Kenya and the Public Appointments County Assembly's Approval Act, Cap 265(b). The amendments aim to enhance the legislative process at the county level by ensuring timely assent and publication of Bills mandating...

During the public participation when the county the Council of Governors (CoG) appeared, they said for some counties which is understandable, the number 20 or 14 will be very small. Nairobi City County, for example, which is quite a big with a huge budget might require a bit more. That...

Madam Temporary Speaker, it is a privilege to second this Bill. This is because governors have struggled with the concept of service to the extent that the relationship between them, Members of the County Assemblies (MCAs) and the CPSBs has been very adversarial and dictatorial. In most cases, the governors...

In fact, in our counties, MCAs only play a representative role. If you look at the legislative process, a simple issue like MCAs being able to figure out different laws that will run the county efficiently does not get publicised or take root.The worst part is that there is no...

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker and Sen. Oketch for seconding the Bill. County governments play a pivotal role in devolved governance. This Senate should act to regularise the laws which have already been passed in order to cover the loopholes which the governors have been taking advantage of since 2013...

Madam Temporary Speaker, I thank Sen. Eddy and seek to move to reply, and request that we defer putting of the question to a later day.Thank you. The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Mumma) It is so deferred. (Putting of the Question to the Bill deferred) (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Temporary...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Mumma) Please, address me as, “Madam Speaker.” June, 10, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 15

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Mumma) Who is seconding? June, 10, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 16

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Mumma) Proceed, Sen. Faki.

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Mumma) I now open the Floor. Proceed, Sen. Mungatana.

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Mumma) Sen. Veronica Maina, please proceed.

Sen. Mumma) : Honourable Temporary Speaker, I withdraw that comment before you even intervene. Order, Senator Veronica. Can you proceed?

Honourable Temporary Speaker, I withdraw that comment before you even intervene. The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Mumma) She has already withdrawn.

It is important to note that any excess revenue should be used to reduce borrowing and offset debts. I find this to be very optimistic of the Mediation Committee to have come up with that clause. It means they had an open mind that we may not only deal with...

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker, for granting me the opportunity to also add my voice to this debate. I thank the Committee under the able leadership of the Senator of Mandera, Sen. Ali Roba, who is continuously the speaker and progressively distinguishing himself as a true defender of devolution. As...

Madam Temporary Speaker, let me begin by thanking my co- members of the Mediation Committee for the good work and the number of hours that each one of us dedicated to mediating to a compromised figure. I just want to state it clearly here that the compromise figure of Kshs418.28...

Sen. Mumma Thank you, honorable Deputy Speaker, Sir. Kindly allow me to read a Petition to the Senate concerning the Shanta Gold Kenya Limited proposed underground mining project in Isulu-Bushiangala, Ikolomani Constituency in Kakamega County. We, the undersigned citizens of the Republic of Kenya and members of the Isulu- Bushiangalai,...

Sen. Mumma) : Madam Chairperson, upon consultation with the Committee, we do not wish to proceed with the amendments. The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Mumma) : I propose the question that the amendments to Clause 15 be dropped as proposed by the Chairperson. I put the question that the amendments to...

Madam Chairperson, upon consultation with the Committee, we do not wish to proceed with the amendments. The Temporary Chairperson ( Sen. Mumma) : Sen. Mumma) : Madam Temporary Chairperson, upon consultation with the Committee, we do not wish to proceed with the amendments. (Proposed amendment to Clause 2 withdrawn) The...

Madam Temporary Chairpeson, upon consultation with the Committee, we do not wish to proceed with the amendment. (Proposed amendment to Clause 21 withdrawn) (Question, that Clause 21 be part of the Bill, proposed) Division at the end. Clauses 22, 23, 24, 25, 26 and 27 (Question, that Clauses 22, 23,...

Sen. Mumma) :May, 14, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 17[The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) in the Chair] Sen. Mumma) : Hon. Senators, I can see the Bar is already withdrawn. Can you also open the doors? Hon. Senators, kindly do not leave because we have another Division. Chairperson to report. Division at...

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The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Mumma) Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I want to comment on two statements. One is--- EXPULSION OF FEMALE RECRUITS FROM THE NATIONAL POLICE COLLEGE, KIGANJO

Madam Temporary Speaker, thank you for this opportunity. I am reading a request for a statement on the expulsion of female recruits from the National Police College, Kiganjo, on account of pregnancy. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on National...

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I beg to lay the following paper on the Table of the Senate, today, Thursday, 14th May, 2026- Report of the Standing Committee on Land, Environment and Natural Resources on the Forest Conservation and Management Amendment Bill (National Assembly Bills No.38 of 2025) . (Sen....

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The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Mumma)May, 14, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 58 COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE THE NUTS AND OIL CROPS DEVELOPMENT BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.47 OF 2023) THE COUNTY ALLOCATION OF REVENUE BILL, (SENATE BILL NO. 10 OF 2026) May, 14, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 55 BUSINESS OF THE WEEK COMMENCING TUESDAY...

Madam Temporary Speaker, on behalf of the Majority Leader, I read this statement. Pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) , I hereby present the business for the week commencing Tuesday 2nd June 2026. As hon. Senators are aware, in accordance with the calendar for the Fifth Session, the Senate will...

Madam Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the Autism Management Bill (Senate Bills No.19) of 2025 be read a second time. Madam Tempoary Speaker, the Autism Management Bill is not just another piece of legislation before this House; it is legislation that promotes compassion, equality and inclusivity. For far...

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I will try to be as quick as possible. I want to second the Bill and pick from where the Mover, Sen. Nyamu, has left. Autism causes lifelong neurodevelopment conditions and affects social communication and interaction behaviour. Autism is caused by genetic factors rooted in...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Mumma) Proceed, Cabinet Secretary. The Cabinet Secretary for Information, Communications and The Digital Economy (Hon. William Kabogo) : I wish, at the onset, to thank the hon. Senator for bringing this matter before this House. The questions she has raised go to the heart of the...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Mumma) Sen. Khalwale, your intervention is noted. Hon. Cabinet Secretary, kindly get to the gist of it. I think the response is very extensive in terms of citing the statutory provisions. The Mover of the question wants to know why we continue having issues regardless of...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Mumma) Senator, your question is very clear. Can we hear from the Senate Minority Leader? The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Madzayo) : Asante sana, Bi. Spika wa Muda. Nataka kuuliza Waziri swali. Waziri, Wizara yako imetengeneza sheria gani ili iweze kuhakikisha ya kwamba watoto wetu ambao...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Mumma)[The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Mumma) left the Chair] [The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) in the Chair] May, 13, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 11 [The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Mumma) left the Chair] [The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) in the Chair]

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I think that either the Cabinet Secretary got my question wrong or did not just answer it at all. I did not ask about legal frameworks. I indicated that the Cabinet Secretary has centred on legal frameworks that exist. What I asked the Cabinet Secretary is, how...

May, 13, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 12 The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. Khalwale, please, proceed.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, two weeks ago, Safaricom announced profits of Kshs100 billion. What is the Cabinet Secretary doing to ensure that this open theft by a company, which is not in business but is doing profiteering, young people are protected by having access to cheaper rates of using ICT, especially,...

Langu ni swala kuhusiana na matangazo ya rejareja kuhusiana na mambo ya betting. Ukifungua radio, kila baada ya dakika kumi, kuna tangazo la betting. Je, Wizara yako inafanya nini kupunguza ama kuondoa kabisa haya matangazo ya kamari ambayo yamekithiri katika vyombo vya habari katika nchi yetu? The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker, for this opportunity also to ask my supplementary question. The question asked by Sen. Kibwana falls under the law that we passed in this House last year, which is the Computer Misuse and Cybercrimes (Amendment) Act, 2025. That is where you will find we amended the...

My question is, because there are so many cases which are being reported out there, but the police, even once you go report to the CID, they have nothing to do. They cannot protect you because I am asking this question painfully. I passed this law in this House, I...

My question is on the operationalisation of this law. The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Thank you. Sen. Mumma, please proceed. Sen. Mumma Hon. Cabinet Secretary, thank you so much for a comprehensive report. However, Kenya is becoming well known for good laws, good Constitution, but no implementation. You admit to the...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, and good morning Cabinet Secretary. I am always happy when I see a citizen of Kiambu serving the nation. My question, having scanned through the response, which I can say is unusually honest, because it reveals weak enforcement, weak data and weak accountability, is, from...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I have one concern. I would also like to know what the Ministry's plan is in terms of solving this issue. The Government has spent so much money to put infrastructure and open so many ICT hubs in the country, including in our polytechnics, the...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, many of our youths are not monetizing in those ICT hubs. Now that the 1,450 hubs that are being built across the country in each and every ward, what is the Ministry's plan to make sure that when these hubs are completed May, 13, 2026 SENATE DEBATES...

May, 13, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 15 The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Yes, Sen. Kathuri. What is your intervention?

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Sen. Mumma

Sen. Mumma Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I would like to contribute to Sen. Sifuna's Statement about statutory remittances, mainly by county governments. This issue has been raised a few times by CPAC and it has come up in most of our committees. I would like to raise a proposal,...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Mumma) Sen. Murango, please proceed.

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Mumma) Sen. Ali Roba.

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Mumma) Sen. Nyamu, please proceed.

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Mumma) There is no other Senator. So, the Mover may reply.

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Mumma) It is so deferred. (Putting of the question to the Bill deferred) Next Order. (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Chair) The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Mumma) Hon. Senators because of absence of movers, we are deferring order No. 11 to 16, 18, 20 to 37. THE...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Mumma) Sen. Madzayo, please proceed. The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Madzayo) : Asante sana Bi. Spika wa Muda. Pia, nataka kujiunga na Maseneta wenzangu, ndugu zangu wote ambao wametoa maoni yao katika huu mjadala wa ugavi wa pesa zinazokwenda katika serikali zetu za mashinani. Tunaweza kuona...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Mumma) Proceed, Senator. The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Madzayo) : Asante, Bi. Spika wa Muda, kwa kunipa nafasi hii tena. Vile vile ningependa kumshukuru Sen. Kiio kwa kunijulisha. Sasa hivi damu inamwagika. Ikiwa damu inamwagika, tuna imani kwamba Serikali imepeleka msaada wa kutosha wa dawa katika...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Mumma) Nilikuwa nasema kwamba, katika mfumo mpya wa SHA, walimu wameanza kuteseka kwa sababu fedha wamegawiwa ni kidogo sana kukimu mahitaji yao ya matibabu; sana sana wagonjwa wa nje. Shilingi1000 inatumika kumwona daktari, Shilingi 200 inafaa kulipia madawa, na kama utahitaji pia kupigwa picha, hiyo haitoshi....

Nilikuwa nasema kwamba, katika mfumo mpya wa SHA, walimu wameanza kuteseka kwa sababu fedha wamegawiwa ni kidogo sana kukimu mahitaji yao ya matibabu; sana sana wagonjwa wa nje. Shilingi1000 inatumika kumwona daktari, Shilingi 200 inafaa kulipia madawa, na kama utahitaji pia kupigwa picha, hiyo haitoshi. Kwa hivyo, Bunge la Taifa,...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Mumma) Honorouble Senators, it is now 6:30 ADJOURNMENT The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Mumma) Honorouble Senators, it is now 6:30