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The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Proceed, Cabinet Secretary. The Cabinet Secretary for the National Treasury and Economic Planning (Hon. Mbadi) : Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I want to agree with Sen. Sifuna. We rarely agree nowadays, although we used to agree a lot a few months back. Today, I...

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, we are asking these questions in the context of the mother Question by

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The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Thank you, Cabinet Secretary, for summarising your answer in a very effective way. Sen. Ojienda, do you have any supplementary question?

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The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Honourable Senators, I will be taking supplementary questions. I remind the Senators who are going to ask questions to stick to the primary question raised. Do not go out of topic. Because of time, also keep your questions short and precise so that the...

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I have two questions- Question No.028 FISCAL INTERVENTIONS TO SPUR ECONOMIC GROWTH IN VARIOUS SECTORS KENYA’S CURRENT STOCK OF DOMESTIC AND EXTERNAL DEBT The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. A quick one, on the...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Thank you, Senator. Cabinet Secretary, you may respond. The Cabinet Secretary for the National Treasury and Economic Planning (Hon. John Mbadi) : Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I see Sen. Tom Ojienda has left. However, I will not have any problem having a...

I will save him time because he is an expert and my former party leader. June 17, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 43 The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Honourable Senators, I will be taking supplementary questions. I remind the Senators who are going to ask questions to stick to the primary...

Thank you, Mr. Temporary, Speaker, Sir. The Cabinet Secretary has spoken about very serious numbers here. There are two numbers that have drawn my attention which now leads to my question. The first number is Ksh7 trillion of public debt in the domestic market and the 69 per cent debt...

Again, Waziri, the problem I have with some of these responses is that they do not answer the question that has been asked by the Senator. I refer to the response to Question No.28 by Sen. Ojienda. The response at page five, for instance, when the Cabinet Secretary is addressing...

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. CS John Mbadi, I am happy because this is the first time I have been in this House when you are here, ever since the President appointed you. So, I congratulate you for your job. He has raised the issue of the debt stock...

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. A quick one, on the response to Question No.29, part (c) . CS, allow me to say that I am happy to hear that you are developing a mechanism to link debt to development outcomes. The question is, if that mechanism does not exist...

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The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Hon. Senators, we are rearranging the sequence and moving on to Order No.28.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I do not understand why we are being hurried to finish this process. I will spend a few minutes, but I really do not understand why that limitation should be there because this is a Bill that seeks to address serious challenges. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir,...

It is time that this conversation be opened, so that we assist people who want to conceive and bring children to life, so that their homes are not broken and they are not sent out of their marriages, because having children is a blessing. It is very unfortunate when someone...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Madam Temporary Speaker, it is a privilege to second this Bill. This is because governors have struggled with the concept of service to the extent that the relationship between them, Members of the County Assemblies (MCAs) and the CPSBs has been very adversarial and...

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I am moving to reply, just to thank all the Senators who have contributed positively to this Bill, and who acknowledge that we will be doing ourselves as a nation a big favour if we pass this law, so that the science, technologies and...

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Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for this opportunity to ventilate on statements raised by Hon. Members. I will begin with the statement from Sen. Omtatah with regards to cricket. When we were growing up, Kenya was leading in Africa and globally. It is quite disheartening that we have degenerated...

executives in charge of health will send administrators and accountants who are either tribally, politically or commercially aligned, to smoothen the operations of fleecing and looting monies from these facilities.As we speak today, if the EACC were to up its game--- As resources of the Social Health Authority (SHA) land...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, one minute, please. The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Give him one minute, but, please, conclude.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for being gracious against these marauding Senators behind me. I want to communicate with the great people of Bungoma County. What I have clearly said here is happening on the ground. I will work and walk with you and ensure the cartels that are...

Sen. Abdul Haji) :on the floor, and we are saying we want to go to Singapore. How do we go to Singapore if we cannot even take care of our patients and community health providers? We have heard complaints everywhere in most of the hospitals. The issue raised by Sen....

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I will be very brief. Allow me to contribute to the statement by Sen. Enoch Wambua. This statement is heavy and weighty. About two or three weeks ago, the Community Health Promoters (CHPs) from Marsabit County sent me a letter. The letter says they have not...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Hon. Speaker, this is a petition on the illegal freezing of salaries and the exclusion of 313 seconded Early Childhood Development Education (ECDE) programme officers from statutory pension rights under Cap 189. I take this opportunity to present this petition on behalf of Peter...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that the Community Health Promoters Bill (National Assembly Bills No.53 of 2022) be now read a Second Time. The Community Health Promotes Bill (National Assembly Bills No.53 of 2025) proposes to amend the title of the...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Power! Power!

Sen. Abdul Haji On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) What is your point of order, Sen. Haji? Sen. Abdul Haji I apologise for interrupting the party leader, former Governor, and Chairperson of the Finance and Budget Committee. I would have wanted to request that...

Sen. Abdul Haji: Mr. Speaker, Sir, we must reflect on the vote we are taking today. With all due respect, we must do things differently. I sit in the Committee on Finance and Budget. We agreed on Kshs454 billion but the Senate team led by the Committee on Finance and...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, we must reflect on the vote we are taking today. With all due respect, we must do things differently. I sit in the Committee on Finance and Budget. We agreed on Kshs454 billion but the Senate team led by the Committee on Finance and Budget settled on...

Sen. Abdul Haji Hon. Senators, we have some serious business to transact here. What is your clarification, Sen. Ali Roba, before we can conclude on this particular issue?

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, it is just a clarification. You communicated that the system that we have is extremely robust, the best in East and Central Africa and that it will become better as we go. However, I am unable to log in, yet...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I thank Sen. Hamida for bringing this Statement of Eugene Mutuku, the young student from Kenya Medical Training College (KMTC) , who lost his life in a tragic incident where he was thrown outside a moving Public Service...

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I thank Sen. Hamida for bringing this Statement of Eugene Mutuku, the young student from Kenya Medical Training College (KMTC) , who lost his life in a tragic incident where he was thrown outside a moving Public Service Vehicle (PSV) , matatu. First of...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I wonder whether Sen. Nyamu had two minutes as I do. Nevertheless, I will try and condense my thoughts within the two minutes that you have given me. Under Article 53 (1) (b) of the Constitution of Kenya,...

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I wonder whether Sen. Nyamu had two minutes as I do. Nevertheless, I will try and condense my thoughts within the two minutes that you have given me. Under Article 53 (1) (b) of the Constitution of Kenya, 2010, every child has a right...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. Recently, I suggested that the Committee on Finance and Budget should establish a subcommittee to follow on these budgets which are being passed and approved by county governments. I was listening keenly to the Statement made by the...

This is the reason why we are here; to be able to demand accountability. If we do not take time to really understand these issues, we will be ranting here day-in, day-out. We passed a Motion here to make sure that all pending bills are paid. The Committee on Finance...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Thank you. Sen. Mwaruma, you have two minutes, please. The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, for giving me this opportunity to comment on the statement by Sen. Consolata regarding the non-payment of teachers, who marked examinations under the Kenya...

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, for giving me this opportunity to comment on the statement by Sen. Consolata regarding the non-payment of teachers, who marked examinations under the Kenya National Examinations Council (KNEC) . I believe we need to expedite the invitation of the Cabinet Secretary for Education and the...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I would like thank you for giving me the opportunity to second this Bill, which was very ably moved by the Vice-Chairperson of the Committee. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I do not wish to repeat the many issues that my...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I appreciate Sen. Mungatana. He is one of the great Senators, our Senior, always in this House on time and

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I appreciate Sen. Mungatana. He is one of the great Senators, our Senior, always in this House on time and June 10, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 51

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The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji)May, 13, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 35 Enterprises (MSMEs) May, 13, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 35 The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Thank you, Cabinet Secretary. We will take the last batch of questions, starting with Sen. Kinyua.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. The Cabinet Secretary has indicated that over 10,000 SACCOs risk being deregistered. That will lead to less competition, resulting to a higher interest rates on the loans, but a low interest rate on the savings of members. What is the Cabinet Secretary going to...

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I refer to the response by the Cabinet Secretary for part (a) of the question. He mentioned that the justification for suspension of SACCO registration was prevention of broad dilution and market saturation. He continued to state that there was a proliferation of under-resourced...

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I would like to ask the Cabinet Secretary, now that there is a report of the task force that was looking at the legal framework and the reforms in the SACCO sector, have they sensitised the cooperatives on the new legal framework as the...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Yes, it talks about the power of the Cabinet Secretary. He keeps referring to the new cooperatives law. Unless and until the new Cooperatives Bill is signed into law, we can refer to it. I needed clarity because the Bill is yet to be...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Thank you, Senator. Cabinet Secretary, you may respond. The Cabinet Secretary for Cooperatives and Micro, Small and Medium Enterprises (MSMEs) Development (Hon. Wycliffe Oparanya) : Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. On the question raised by Sen. Kinyua, I have clearly stated that the...

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The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Sen. Cherarkey, I just want to inform you that we have extended the sitting, so that we can conclude this Motion.

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Haji Abdul) Thank you very much, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for giving me the opportunity. I start by thanking our leader of delegation to the Pan-African Parliament (PAP) , Hon. Sen. (Dr.) Mungatana. I thank him for the very detailed report that he has presented. I...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji)Mover, you can reply.

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji)May, 13, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 44 May, 13, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 43 The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Putting of the Question has been deferred. (Putting of the Question on the Motion deferred) May, 13, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 44 ADJOURNMENT The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) These are the results of the division- AYES: 30 NOES: 1 ABSTENTIONS: Nil THE NARCOTIC DRUGS AND PSYCHOTROPIC May 12, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 19 SUBSTANCES (CONTROL) (AMENDMENT) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.1 OF 2024)

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I second. (Question proposed) Division will be at the end.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I request Senator Ledama to second.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I second. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to)

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that the Equalisation Fund Appropriation Bill (National Assembly Bills No.21 of 2025) be now read a Third Time. I request Sen. Ledama to second.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I second. (Question proposed) The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Division will be at the end. THE KENYA NATIONAL COUNCIL FOR POPULATION AND DEVELOPMENT BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.72 OF 2023) The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Let us proceed to vote. Order, hon. Senators! Sen. Eddy, please proceed.

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Hon. Senators, the results are as follows-

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji)remember what we said at 2.30 p.m, there were two matters. There is one that has a statutory timeline, which is a matter on the stoppage of funds to Meru County.I want to propose to the House that since this is a matter we had...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Haji Abdul) Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table of the Senate, today Tuesday, 12th May, 2026- Report on the Standing Committee on Finance and Budget on the stoppage of transfer of funds to the county Government of Meru,...

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The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Hon. Senators, the Cabinet Secretary for Investments, Trade and Industry is here. Bw. Waziri, karibu to the Senate. We will go straight to the Question by Sen. (Prof.) Ojienda. May 6, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 23 The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji)Question No.024 CAPACITY BUILDING...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Cabinet Secretary, you are welcome. The Cabinet Secretary for Investments, Trade and Industry (Hon. Lee Kinyanjui) : Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, let me begin by expressing my gratitude to you and hon. Senators for the opportunity extended to the Ministry of Investments, Trade and...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Cabinet Secretary, you can respond to Sen. Ojienda’s supplementary question. The Cabinet Secretary for Trade Investments, Trade and Industry (Hon. Lee Kinyanjui) : Thank you, Professor. May 6, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 30 The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji)Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I think the...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. In the response to the primary question, the Cabinet Secretary mentioned that the Ministry helps county SMEs by linking to domestic and international markets. Can the Cabinet Secretary give examples of counties and SMEs that they have linked...

Sen. Abdul Haji) : Sen. Abdul Haji) : Thank you, Sen. Mariam. You realise that the county governments also have a role to play, but we will allow the Cabinet Secretary to reply. Proceed, Sen. Syengo.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. In the response to the primary question, the Cabinet Secretary mentioned that the Ministry helps county SMEs by linking to domestic and international markets. Can the Cabinet Secretary give examples of counties and SMEs that they have linked to international markets and the success...

My point of intervention is on a statement by the Cabinet Secretary. Mr. Cabinet Secretary, please clarify how potatoes can be used to make tomato paste. The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Sen. Ojienda, I can reply to that. You were not paying attention.

We are dealing with counterfeits. Is the Cabinet Secretary saying that Kenyans are using potatoes as tomatoes? The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) No, Sen. (Prof.) Tom Ojienda.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, we are following what the Cabinet Secretary is saying, but as we do so, I am sure the good professor is busy on his phone getting instructions you know from who. So, please allow us to listen to the Cabinet Secretary. The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul...

So, are we selling tomato paste? The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji)It is a base ingredient. Thank you, Sen. Okiya Omtatah. Sen. (Prof.) Tom Ojienda, we will school you after the Senate session.Cabinet Secretary, please proceed. The Cabinet Secretary, Ministry of Investments, Trade and Industry (Hon. Lee Kinyanjui): Thank you,...

Potatoes for tomatoes? The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) No, potato paste. (Sen. Okiya Omtatah spoke off record) May 6, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 35 The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Thank you, Cabinet Secretary. My observation is this, I think from where you sit, you have an aerial view of...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Sen. Omtatah, please, put your question forward.

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Haji)advisory services, where they train on standards to, especially the common mwananchi. Do we have a structure? This is because I have not seen anybody in Murang’a being trained on this.Mr. CS, what are you doing to see to it that avocado farmers are assisted? They...

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The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji)agriculture, but just one particular variety because it takes a bit of infrastructure, planning, aggregation and extension officers to make sure that a particular commodity succeeds. Therefore, this is well in order.Since driving of the economic agenda of a county is the responsibility of a...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the Cabinet Secretary will be leaving and I know the House might be rising soon. However, he has talked about a scientific issue that he tried to navigate very skillfully from Sen. Okiya Omtatah. Does that same navigation apply to...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Could he give us the impact assessment, perhaps not now, he can commit to you whether he had done an impact assessment on the damages this might have in the economy in terms of pollution and damages on our vehicles, so that we just...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Hon. Senators, it is now 1.03 p.m. Having concluded the business for which I extended the hours of sitting, pursuant to Standing Order No.34 (2) (a) , the Senate stands adjourned until later today, Wednesday, 6th May, 2026 at 2.30 p.m. [The Cabinet Secretary...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Thank you very much, Cabinet Secretary. ADJOURNMENT The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Hon. Senators, it is now 1.03 p.m. Having concluded the business for which I extended the hours of sitting, pursuant to Standing Order No.34 (2) (a) , the Senate stands adjourned...

Sen. Abdul Haji Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Before I go straight to the question, I just want to state that as a Senator for Garissa, I am very happy and proud when I hear Senators like Sen. Cherarkey, Sen. Cheruiyot and Sen. Sifuna praise the Cabinet Secretary...

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The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji)about health facilities, but instead, the protesters apparently charged at the police officers within the police station. That is what is alleged. So, investigations will establish whether the protest was peaceful, whether it targeted a police station, and whether the police officers who used their...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji)subjected to appropriate disciplinary and legal action upon conclusion of the ongoing investigations.Thank you, honourable Speaker. Question No.012 INVESTIGATIONS INTO THE DEATH OF MR. SAMMY KYENGO DEPLOYMENT OF KDF PERSONNEL IN KIUNGA WARD April 22, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 41 The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji)...

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I thank the Cabinet Secretary for appearing. I attended the Jukwaa la Usalama Forum in Elgeyo Marakwet County and it bore fruits. We now have peace in the county. My supplementary question is; what plans does the Cabinet Secretary have to prefer charges against...

Sen. Abdul Haji) : Sen. Abdul Haji) : Thank you, Senator. Sen. Joe Nyutu, proceed very quickly.

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Yes, and we were given a brief by the doctor. So, it is not--- The Cabinet Secretary for Interior and National Administration (Hon. Kipchumba Murkomen) : Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. Regarding the question from Sen. Kisang on why we have not charged...

She also did not ask. The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) You are right but she is a Member of the Speaker’s Panel. (Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe Ltumbesi stood up in his place) Sen. Lelegwe, let us allow the Cabinet Secretary to answer. Okay, proceed quickly followed by Sen. Joe Nyutu....

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. On registration of new IDs, we commend the Government for extending mobile ID registrations to sublocations, particularly in Samburu County. However, the turnout has been overwhelmingly high with many citizens unable to register and officers work beyond official hours. The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul...

Could the Cabinet Secretary consider extending the registration period in Samburu and other marginalised areas? The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Thank you, Senator. Sen. Joe Nyutu, proceed very quickly.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. It is unfortunate that we cannot raise a standing order against a Cabinet Secretary. However, we must tell the Cabinet Secretary that I was with the former Deputy President, Hon. Rigathi Gachagua, at the Karen Hospital and we were given--- The Temporary Speaker (...

As you know, the former Cabinet Secretary, Hon. Raphael Tuju, was charged. Additionally, Hon. Koimburi obtained a court order and Justice Mwita protected a young blogger who was also intended to be charged. This remains an ongoing process. The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Thank you, Cabinet Secretary, I ask...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji)Sen. Kajwang’ has spoken to the issue of white elephants. That only one white elephant is running in the tune of Kshs25 billion. It is truly sad that we have wasted Kshs25 billion on the CAIPS. In fact, in Kakamega County, we are leading by...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I have so many things to say in such a short time, I do not even know what I am going to do. However, I will be very quick; I will limit the time out of respect to the House...

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, thank you. If you are serious about holding these county governors accountable, I invite the Committee to go back and read the PFM Act and while at it, take the Constitution and read Article 179. The executive authority of the county is vested and exercised by...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Thank you very much, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I am a proud member of the County Public Accounts Committee which is headed by my big brother, Senator Kajwang’. We have worked tirelessly to make sure that this report is before this House today. Accountability...

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir--- The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) No, your time is up. Sen. Mo Fire, you have the Floor.

Thank you very much, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I am a proud member of the County Public Accounts Committee which is headed by my big brother, Senator Kajwang’. We have worked tirelessly to make sure that this report is before this House today. Accountability is not optional. It is a...

particular committee for that matter, to come and account for the money that he has been able to receive for that particular time, and then the governor decides not to come, then, we are getting ourselves very irrelevant in this exercise. That is why we need to explore some of...

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, allow me to raise three very fundamental points with regards to today's historic day. As you know, today is the last date under Article 229, when we are supposed to have examined, considered and taken appropriate action on the audit report. However, there is one important...

accounts. This is because the National Assembly has completely ignored the ruling of the court. That means our counties will get more shareable revenue. That is a very important take-home from today's exercise.Secondly, I have sat here for four years and every year, we come up with reports and recommendations...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. The former deputy party leader of Orange Democratic Movement (ODM) is very passionate about it, and I want to say that the President is entitled to relate with anybody. These are Kenyans. I rise to support this particular Motion strongly, because, when devolution came into effect,...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) I might be informed in four minutes and then my time is over, so I would rather say what I wanted to say. I was saying that, in fact, one of the governors who has refused to come to the committee was brought here...

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The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Even if it was passed, that is not right. The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Sen. Sifuna, proceed. (Loud consultations)

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to reply. As the Chairperson of the Committee, perhaps we owe this House an apology. Our reports came on the last day. Last year we brought our reports on the 27th of March. This last minute reporting was...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Sen. Cherarkey, you are assuming that he is not being honest.

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Sen. Cherarkey, when the Cabinet Secretary is responding to your questions, he is answering to the best of his knowledge. He will answer your question, but withdraw and apologise the fact that he is not being honest.

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The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) You have asked a question which you need a response to and the people of Nandi County are watching you. It is wrong for you to cast aspersions against the Cabinet Secretary in his response. His response is as far as the Ministry is...

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, he should tell us the facts. I am not challenging your ruling. The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Sen. Cherarkey, withdraw and apologise, so that your question can be answered. (Loud consultations)

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I need to be taught--- The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) You have asked a question which you need a response to and the people of Nandi County are watching you. It is wrong for you to cast aspersions against the Cabinet Secretary in his response....

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Thank you. Cabinet Secretary, please, try to respond to the questions asked by the Senators. The Cabinet Secretary for Youth Affairs, Creative Economy and Sports (Hon. Salim Mvurya) : Thank you very much, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I also take the opportunity to give...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Thank you, Cabinet Secretary. Proceed, Sen. Boni Khalwale.

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji)being done by the Defence Forces. Is it the Defense Forces doing the projects or is it this Chinese company?Hon. Cabinet Secretary, I say this with a lot of prompting from Kenyans who are watching. A few days ago, a man who was competing with...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. Senior, as I call him, Sen. Boni Khalwale, just called me shameless on the Floor of this House. As a senior Member, I expect him to show a lot of respect. There is always a beginning, there is...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Withdraw and apologise.

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, did you, in any way or form, disrespect the great school of Kapsabet Boys when making your submission? March 25, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 20

But he must also withdraw, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Sen. Cherarkey, we were going to ask him to apologise.

Okay, I withdraw and apologise to my good neighbour, Sen. Boni Khalwale, for what he uses. The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Sen. Boni Khalwale.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker. I was making a very important point and the point is--- The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, did you, in any way or form, disrespect the great school of Kapsabet Boys when making your submission?

Not in any way, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) What did you mean by your statement?

I was wondering how a great school like Kapsabet High School could possibly have --- The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Be very careful so that you do not fall into the trap again.

Exactly. The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji)contractor appears to be enjoying some privileges within the decision-making system of the Republic at the expense of Article 227, which provides that procurement of public goods and service must be fair, competitive, equitable, and must be done at a cost- effective fee.The Cabinet...

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I withdraw. However, you now know the name of the person who is doing some works on your behalf but I do not know if you have that in your budget. I would like to have the clarification from the Ministry. Does that money come from the Ministry? It is...

I thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for giving me this opportunity. I wanted to ask the Cabinet Secretary whether he is aware that Gakoigo Stadium in Murang’a was approved for upgrading by the Ministry but then it has been moved to another area. I wanted to know whether he...

March 25, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 23 The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Members. First of all, I would like to say that we have not allocated Kshs7 million for any facility in Kajiado County.As I said earlier, we encourage the private sector to also participate in mobilising resources for sports...

That is what I demonstrated a few minutes ago when the Cabinet Secretary gave misleading information about the number of sporting activities that have happened for the last 40 years. Just by a click of a button, I was able to identify that this is misinformation. That is what AI...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Sen. Seki of Kajiado County, proceed. POOR WORKING CONDITIONS AT THE BOMAS OF KENYA CONSTRUCTION SITE

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Thank you, Senator. Sen. Joyce Korir, proceed. March 24, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 25 DISCOVERY OF 14 BODIES AT MAKABURINI CEMETERY, KERICHO COUNTY

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Hon. Senators, I have--- (Sen. Hamida and Sen. Korir stood in their places) Sen. Hamida and Sen. Joyce Korir, take your seats. (Interruption of Statements) COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE CHAIR VISITING DELEGATIONS FROM SINENDET AND MURRAY SECONDARY SCHOOLS IN BARINGO AND TAITA-TAVETA COUNTIES The Temporary...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Thank you, Senator. Sen. Maanzo, you can welcome the students from Taita-Taveta because they are your neighbours.

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Senator for Mombasa, I want to give you the opportunity to welcome the delegation from Kwale.

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Hon. Senators, considering that we have a lot of statements that have been read and I am sure Senators want to make comments on them, I would like to rearrange the Order Paper just for one Order, so that we move to Order No.8,...

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Hon. Senators, we are going to spend 20 minutes only on comments on the statements. I can see many names on the dashboard. I request Senators who will get a chance to speak to do so for not more than three minutes. Proceed, Sen....

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Sen. Cherarkey.

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Yes, stop his time. Yes, Sen. Osotsi. Give him the microphone.

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Sen. Osotsi, I did not quite understand your Standing Order.

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Hon. Senators, I am giving an opportunity to Sen. Agnes Kavindu. She has requested the Chair since she is not feeling too well and wanted to comment. March 24, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 34 The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji)Proceed, Sen. Agnes.

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji)Proceed,

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) We are supposed to remove him from the dashboard. Proceed, Sen. Faki.

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Senators, if you are going to speak, come to the Dispatch. March 24, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 36

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Sen. Karen, if that is the case, you are out of order. I just saw her go back to the chair.

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Sen. Joyce Korir, can I remind you that I am the Chair and in charge of keeping this House in order? I do not see that disorder--- (Loud consultations)

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Sen. Esther Okenyuri, you have the Floor.

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Sen. Andrew Okiya Omtatah.

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Senator, I will give you a minute. Do you want to be informed by Sen. Cherarkey? He is making a lot of requests. Would you like to be informed, or should I tell him---

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Okay, stop the clock, but Senator, you only have one minute remaining.

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Sen. Okiya Omtatah, you may proceed.

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Sen. Veronica Maina, you may proceed.

The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) Thank you. Sen. Madzayo, please proceed. The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Madzayo) : Bw. Spika wa Muda, kwanza, nampa kongole Seneta chipukizi kutoka eneo la Baringo, ndugu yangu Sen. Kiprono, kwa taarifa ambayo ameleta ndani ya Bunge la Seneti kuhusu vile mvua inafanya madhara...

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The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji)teachers who are undertaking diploma courses in science and primary and secondary education.We are aware that of the 27,000 students under diploma, both in teacher training and other aspects, some do not access loans and grants. I hope we will amend the law, and I...

in its functionality. It is hard to access some of the documentation. In fact, the initial iPads should be brought back.Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, can I have your attention? Our iPads should be brought back; they were better than this. I hope the Commission and the Secretariat are noting the...

teachers who are undertaking diploma courses in science and primary and secondary education.We are aware that of the 27,000 students under diploma, both in teacher training and other aspects, some do not access loans and grants. I hope we will amend the law, and I believe that it is unfair...

He is known by the ladies in this House as kijana barubaru - to be the Deputy of Sen. Ledama Olekina. That will be a very lethal powerful force that will sell the broad-based agenda across this country, including matters education. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, Article 43 talks about basic...