Amason Jeffah Kingi

Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Order, hon. Senators. I am informed that we do have quorum now, kindly settle in. Clerk, you may proceed to call the first Order. COMMUNICATION...

Proceed, Sen. Veronica. REPORT OF PARLIAMENTARY DELEGATION TO THE 2024 JOINT UNITED NATIONS IPU HEARING HELD IN NEW YORK

Next Order. NOTICES OF MOTIONS ALTERATION OF DATES FOR SITTINGS OF THE SENATE IN BUSIA COUNTY

You may proceed. ALTERATION OF THE SENATE CALENDAR FOR PART IV OF THE THIRD SESSION

There was a Notice of Motion to be given by Sen. Veronica Maina. Senate Majority Leader, you may proceed to give it. NOTING OF REPORT OF THE PARLIAMENTARY DELEGATION TO THE 2024 JOINT UN-IPU HEARING

Let us go to the next Order. QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS STATEMENTS We will begin with Statements pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) , starting with Sen. (Prof.) Tom Ojienda. UTILISATION OF CESS LEVIED ON SUGARCANE BY KISUMU COUNTY GOVERNMENT

Next is Sen. Chimera. PROPOSED INSTALLATION OF TOLL STATIONS ALONG DONGO KUNDU BYPASS HIGHWAY

You may proceed, Sen. Chimera. TALANTA HELA PROJECT AND LEADERSHIP DYNAMICS WITHIN NATIONAL SPORTS ORGANISATIONS

Sen. Madzayo, the Senate Minority Leader, had a Statement pursuant to Standing Order No.52 (1) . WITHDRAWAL OF SECURITY DETAIL OF HON. JUSTICE LAWRENCE MUGAMBI

Proceed, Sen. Osotsi. PERSONAL STATEMENT NOMINATION TO THE POSITION OF DEPUTY PARTY LEADER OF ODM

Proceed, Sen. Sifuna.

Sen. Orwoba, proceed.

Sen. Orwoba, you cannot defy the ruling of the Chair. I am tempted to ask you to withdraw, but since it is the first day, you will remain in for the remainder of the afternoon. Sen. Wafula, proceed. Is Sen. Wafula not in the Chamber? We now proceed to the...

Sen. Gloria, you are out of order. Standing Order No.117 – you cannot walk in between the Speaker and the Senator speaking. That is exactly what you have done. Proceed and conclude, Senate Majority Leader.

Senate Majority Leader, kindly proceed to conclude your contribution.

Sen. (Dr.) Boni.

Sen. Orwoba, you continue being out of order. You know, under Standing Order No. 98, I want to believe you have a copy of the Senate Standing Orders. You can only rise on a point of order when another Senator contributes. No one is contributing, as you can see. So,...

(Laughter)

In other words, you have denied. Proceed.

Next Order. THE ENVIRONMENT LAWS (AMENDMENT) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.23 OF 2024) (Order for First Reading read - Read the First Time and ordered to be referred to the relevant Senate Committee) Next Order. THE PUBLIC FINANCE MANAGEMENT (AMENDMENT) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.27 OF 2024) THE COUNTY LIBRARY SERVICES BILL...

That report was laid before the plenary. I think the Members are adequately informed on what to do.

No, you cannot campaign, Madam Chairperson. I am afraid you may not be able to have that latitude. Now, Hon. Senators, I will proceed to put the question. (Question put and negatived) Next Order. ADOPTION OF REPORT ON THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS OF VARIOUS COUNTY ASSEMBLIES (Motion Deferred) Next Order. THE...

Very well. It is so ordered. (Putting of the Question on the Motion deferred) Next Order. Mr. Speaker, Sir, before I had failed to draw your attention. Pursuant to Standing Order No. 66 (3) , I request that the putting of the question be deferred to another day. I thank...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, let me state that I rise to support this Bill that seeks to amend the land regime in this country. This is a very brief Bill. If you look at it, I can count only one material clause because it is Clause 3 that seeks to now...

There being no other Senator wishing to contribute, I will call upon the Mover to reply.

Senate Majority Leader, are you making any requests for postponement of the putting of the Question, or do we proceed?

It is so ordered. Next Order. THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS (AMENDMENT) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO. 12 OF 2024) Now, on interruption of debate on 8th August 2024, Sen. M. Kajwang’ was on his feet and had a balance of five minutes. I do not see him here, neither do I see...

It is so directed. (Putting of question on the Bill deferred) Let us go to the next Order. THE HERITAGE AND MUSEUMS BILL (SENATE BILLS NO. 8 OF 2023) THE AGRICULTURE AND FOOD AUTHORITY (AMENDMENT) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO. 13 OF 2023) Sen. Miraj Abdullahi Abdurrahman, proceed. That Order is...

I thought Sen. Chute is in the House.

You are not ready?

(Bill deferred)Okay, we will defer that particular order. Let us go to the next Order. THE COUNTY PUBLIC FINANCE LAWS (AMENDMENT) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO. 39 OF 2023) THE ENERGY (AMENDMENT) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO. 42 OF 2023)

Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the quorum bell for another 10 minutes. The parties to the impeachment proceedings, your matter starts at 10.00 a.m. So, you may...

Sen. Mungatana.

Sen. Mundigi, have your seat. (Question proposed) Now the floor is open.

The Senate Minority Leader, can you confirm that there is a position? The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Madzayo) : Yes, I do.

Very well. So we will take five from each side, each speaking for five minutes. Sen. Wambua Kiio?

You have a half a minute to conclude.

Proceed, Sen. Chute.

Next is Sen. Crystal Asige.

(Loud consultations)

Order! Order, Sen. Kinyua. Senate Minority Leader, Sen. Madzayo, order.

Sen. Crystal Asige, you have made a very heavy statement that a blogger was abducted. Are you in a position to substantiate that claim? If not, then you may proceed to withdraw.

Sen. Crystal Asige, you said abductions are still going on, I heard you correctly. Abductions do not happen on social media.

Order, hon. Senators. Sen. Crystal Asige, did you verify the information you got from the social media?

Proceed.

Sen. Seki, proceed.

Proceed, Sen. Richard Onyonka.

I have not given that permission. After the adjournment of this House, we will proceed on recess. Once we come back on the 17thSeptember---

Now proceed to conclude.

Proceed, Sen. Kinyua.

Sen. Catherine Mumma, please proceed.

Sen. Mumma, wind up. Your time is up.

Sen. Wamatinga, please proceed.

The Senate Majority Leader, please proceed.

(Laughter)

Order! Hon. Members.

Can you have a seat the Senator for Nandi? (Sen. Cherarkey took his seat) (Sen. Cherarkey spoke off record) Sen. Onyonka, just take your seat.

Proceed, Sen. Githuku. We only have two minutes and we wind up this, so that I put the question.

Proceed, Sen. Githuku.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for giving me this opportunity to contribute to this very important Motion. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I was privileged to be among the people that vetted the IG of Police. I want to confirm to this House that the IG demonstrated a wide range of experience...

The Chairperson Standing Committee on National Security, Defence and Foreign Relations to proceed and reply.

Hon. Senators, I will proceed to put the question. (Question put and agreed to) Next Order. HEARING AND DETERMINATION OF THE PROPOSED REMOVAL FROM OFFICE, BY IMPEACHMENT, OF HON. KAWIRA MWANGAZA, THE GOVERNOR OF MERU COUNTY Clerk, do we have the parties in the Chamber? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, through you, yesterday I wanted seek clarification on the pleadings of the County Assembly made through their counsel led by Mr. Ndegwa Njiru. One of the issues is, it was never indicated whether an invitation to the Governor of Meru County was sent out during the impeachment...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for allowing me to make this quick comment. You have given directions that we only have 30 minutes for this clarification session and I believe that we are moving into an area where the counsel is being allowed to re-prosecute his case by giving lengthy...

Counsel for the County Assembly, I was wondering what kind of question you were responding to. The question by the Senator for Nandi has no relationship with the lengthy statement you are giving. Be precise and go straight to what you have been asked to clarify. I am giving you...

The Senate Majority Leader.

In Paragraph 11, the Governor is alleged to have frustrated the process of reconciliation between her, the deputy governor, and MCAs. This featured prominently in their case and submissions. Mr. Speaker, Sir, is there any document they can point out to us to confirm that, indeed, there have been efforts...

Counsel for the County Assembly, you have one minute.

Proceed, Sen. Olekina.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, the witness who testified, one Hyrene Kawira, who is the widow to the deceased, confirmed before the Assembly that there only existed one account. As to whether the money that was being sent from abroad was ever uploaded to the said account, in her examination-in-chief, she led...

Proceed, Sen. Omtatah.

Proceed, counsel.

Counsel you have answered. Sen. Crystal Sige proceed.

County Assembly?

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, and distinguished Senators. I stand here to seek your direction on time management, so that we begin on a clear understanding. PRESENTATION OF THE CASE OF THE MERU COUNTY GOVERNOR

Now, counsel for the County Assembly, we need not debate on issues of time. You know exactly what happened yesterday. You were given four hours. You took three hours and ten minutes.

No, time is squarely in my hands. I will just give direction---

Kindly take your seat.

Counsel for the County Assembly, let us allow the Governor to present her case.

Then we will be able to handle each issue at the time it is being raised.

Counsel for the governor, you may proceed. Indeed, the County Assembly will have one-third of the time allocated, just like it happened yesterday. Proceed.

Where is the witness? Serjeant-at-Arms, can you usher in the witness, please? (The Witness for the Meru County Governor (Mr. Ibrahim Mutwiri Kirimi) was ushered into the Chamber) Secretariat, may you administer the oath? (The Witness for Meru County Governor (Mr. Ibrahim Mutwiri Kirimi) took the Oath)

Clerk, do we have quorum? Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) (Several Senators walked into the Chamber) Hon. Senators, please take your seats and be orderly. (Sen. Joe Nyutu stood up in his place) Order! Sen. Nyutu, since when did you become...

No, get there first. As you explain, we need to be on that page. Start with the page containing that document, so that when all the Senators and other parties are there, you can then proceed to explain yourself.

Very well, you can proceed.

Just hold on, counsel.

County Assembly, are you done with your cross- examination?

The counsel for the governor, you may re-examine your witness.

Hon. Senators, for those who wish to seek for clarification or pose questions to the witness, this is the moment. Sen. Mumma proceed.

Witness, you may proceed to respond.

Just put the record straight.

Sen. Cherarkey, proceed.

Witness, proceed to respond.

Can you give him a foolscap and a pen so that we do not go back to it? Sen. Cherarkey, just pose it again.

Sen. Richard Onyonka, proceed.

Proceed, Sen. Mutinda.

Thank you. Proceed, Sen. Wambua.

Witness, proceed.

Mr. Munene, you know we have to conclude this hearing by today. You knew that there was a lot of contention that was surrounding this particular piece of legal advice. In the morning, the County Assembly counsel made an application that the original copy be produced. I ruled that it...

Yes, Sen.Wambua.

I will not direct the team of the Governor on how best to present their case. If you feel withholding the original makes your case stronger, so be it. If you feel producing the original makes your case stronger, so be it. It is within your powers.

Very well. Proceed, Sen. Mungatana.

Hon. Senators, due to the time factor, we will terminate this witness at that. The team of the Governor, do you still have more witnesses that you want to call? You may now proceed to call the next witness.

Clerk, how many minutes do we have for the team of the governor, so that they can prepare themselves accordingly on how to manage that time? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Speaker) The Governor's team, you have one hour and 25 minutes, not just for this witness, but for all...

You have just sought clarification from the witness who has just been stood down, and from the website, it still indicates that he is an associate or a partner in a law firm, whereas indicated that he left a while ago, but it is only that the information had not...

Well, if it was certified, I would not mind recalling the witness, so that he has a chance to also explain his side, but downloading from the website is not good enough. Counsel, you may proceed with your witness. (The Witness for the Meru County Governor (Hon. Evans Mawira Kaaria)...

Counsel for the County Assembly.

Just take your seat. Yesterday, I gave you some latitude because the Counsel for the Governor rose on a point of order on the same issue. However, I gave you latitude so that we run this smoothly. Kindly allow the Governor to present her case the best way she knows...

Mr. interpreter, kindly be attentive, we are losing time. The Interpreter (Mr. Muthengi Mpara) : “Just prepare yourselves, it is you who will help us. Do not let us down. Considering we are men, we can sit down and talk like elders. Therefore, we have heard what you have said...

What is your intervention, Sen. M. Kajwang’? Certainly, it cannot be a point of order.

Can you play that clip again? And Mr. Interpreter? The Interpreter (Mr. Muthengi Mpara) : Yes, Mr. Speaker, Sir. You know the Meru language very well? The Interpreter (Mr. Muthengi Mpara) : Yes, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Then give us the true translation. The Interpreter (Mr. Muthengi Mpara) : Alright, thank...

Is it now clear, Senator for Homa Bay? Did you get it?

You know, English and Meru sometimes can vary drastically.

Objection overruled. Proceed.

How many translators do we have out there? Is he the only translator we have? There are two? Bring in the other one. As a translator, there can never be any doubt cast upon you.

Translator, do this; face the other side; do not face the screen because you are translating what is in Meru to English. Just face the other side and simply hear the Meru language and translate it. (A video clip was played) The Interpreter (Mr. Muthengi Mpara) : A warning, if...

Hon. Governor, you shall not be victimized for whatever you say as long as it is truthful and in line with the oath that you have just taken. The Governor of Meru County (Hon. Kawira Mwangaza) : Thank you, Hon. Speaker and the hon. Senators. Since I am here, let...

Counsel for County Assembly, proceed for cross- examination.

The counsel has tried to put it in English and Swahili, but it is not sinking well. I wish I could allow Kimeru, but that language is not allowed here. Let me try to assist the witness maybe to understand. If a governor breaches the law and is held to...

Ms. Linda’s affidavit is an independent document and is not contained in any of those volumes, but it was circulated. If you do not have a copy, kindly make available a copy to hon. Orwoba. Is there any other Senator who does not have a copy of Ms. Linda’s affidavit?

Governor, it is either a ‘yes’ or ‘no.’ The Governor of Meru County (Hon. Kawira Mwangaza): I asked for advice from them.

Can you bring the interpreter to the House? (Sen. Orwoba spoke off record) What is your issue, Sen. Gloria, as we wait for the interpreter to walk in? Keep it short.

Do we have the interpreter in the House? Sen. Orwoba, you have never registered yourself as a visually impaired Senator. Continue with the proceedings.

Counsel for County Assembly, we have a deadline to beat. We have until midnight tonight to conclude this matter. We are not doing very well in terms of time management. Therefore, I will give you 10 more minutes.

Counsel for the Governor, you may re-examine. You have five minutes to do that.

Thank you. We shall now move to allow Hon. Senators to seek clarifications or ask questions. As the Hon. Senators are doing that, counsel for the parties, prepare your closing statements. We are not going to take a break. Immediately, the Hon. Senators are done seeking clarifications, we will straightaway...

Governor, please proceed. The Governor for Meru County (Hon. Kawira Mwangaza) : Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I agree that my Senator, the Deputy Speaker of this House, should do his oversight or any role that is given to him. However, in this case, he has gone beyond in disrupting...

Governor, please respond to that. The Governor of Meru County (Hon. Kawira Mwangaza) : Thank you, Speaker, Sir. I am not a suspect in that case. I did not even record a statement with the police. They came, did the investigations, and left. On the issue of 2023 approval, the...

Sen. Okiya Omtatah, please proceed.

Very well. Sen. Orwoba, you have the Floor.

Proceed, Sen. Olekina.

Proceed, Governor. The Governor of Meru County (Hon. Kawira Mwangaza) : Thank you, Senator. Indeed, I have tried to engage the County Assembly of Meru by giving the names for the board, unfortunately, they have been ignored throughout. Proceed, Sen. Mo Fire.

Sen. Madzayo, proceed. The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Madzayo) : Asante Bw. Spika. Gavana

Sen. Mariam Omar, proceed. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I need clarification. Madam Governor, this is your third impeachment. What is different from the other two? How is it different from the other two, which have been already done? The second one is about the maternity ward. If it is...

Sen. Wambua. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I have two questions to the Governor: One of your key witnesses, Hon. Mawira confessed on record and under oath that he and a group of other MCAs of Meru on their Motion, converted themselves into economic saboteurs. That they sat down and...

Governor. The Governor of Meru County (Hon. Kawira Mwangaza) : Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I have not reported any economic sabotage to the police because this is kind of political, fueled by external forces to sabotage my administration and the good work that I do. I would like the...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Madam Governor, just wondering, if dissolving the county is the way to go, looking at the relations you have with the County Assembly? I am also wondering if they have called you all names; they have called you a mad person. They said that the...

Governor, assume that the impeachment proceedings do not succeed and you went back to Meru to continue with your task as a governor. Do you see a possibility of ever reconciling and giving development to the people of Meru or you will be brought back here by the politics that...

Sen. Omogeni, proceed. Governor, you gave Linda Gakii Kiome a notice of termination on 26th March, 2024. How did she take it and how is your relationship with the her? Is it cordial, do you talk, and is there any vendetta against either of you? The Governor of Meru County...

Hon. Senators, we have to terminate that session. The 30 minutes allocated to this session has long been spent. Governor, you may retire to your seat. We are now going to move to the closing statements. The first team to make their closing statement is the team from the County...

May I proceed, Mr. Speaker, Sir?

Absolutely. CLOSING STATEMENT ON BEHALF OF MERU COUNTY GOVERNOR

Order Members! Sen. Veronica, approach the Chair, please. Clerk, can you call the parties, members of the public and the media back to the Plenary? (All the parties, Members of the public and the Media were allowed into the Gallaries) [The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) left the Chair] [The Temporary Speaker...

Order, hon. Senators, NOTICE OF MOTION RESOLUTION TO REMOVE FROM OFFICE, BY IMPEACHMENT, THE GOVERNOR OF MERU COUNTY, HON. KAWIRA MWANGAZA

Next Order. Proceed, the Majority Leader. RESOLUTION TO REMOVE FROM OFFICE, BY IMPEACHMENT, THE GOVERNOR OF MERU COUNTY, HON. KAWIRA MWANGAZA

Yes, what is your point of order, Senator for Nandi County? (Interruption of Debate on Motion) PROCEDURAL MOTION LIMITATION OF DEBATE ON MOTION

As Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale is seeking for his clarification, Secretariat, proceed to prepare for the Division, please.

Order, hon. Senators. Kindly be orderly and take your seats. The following Senators must proceed to the Dispatch Box and cast their votes; Sen. Olekina, Sen. Omogeni, Sen. Onyonka, Sen. Osotsi, Sen. M. Kajwang', Sen. Beth Syengo, Sen. Kavindu Muthama, Sen. Lemaltian, Sen. Montet, Sen. Shakila Abdalla and Sen. Maanzo....

Sen. Orwoba, you are totally out of order. Withdraw from the Chamber and the following shall follow--- (Loud consultations)

Mr. Speaker, Sir, under the circumstances, I find it difficult to raise and discuss issues that have led us to where we are. My sincere and honest observation and evaluation, especially to Members who are in this House and Members of--- (Sen. Olekina spoke off record) Yes, Sir.

Order! Let the Senator be heard in silence, please. (Loud consultations)

Very well. At this juncture, I will call upon the Governor for Meru County, in two minutes, to make her closing remarks to the Senate. Proceed, Governor for Meru County. If you have anything to say, this is the time to address the Senate. If you do not have anything...

Sen. Kisang, I am afraid you may not proceed to cast your vote. We are unable to see you. (Loud Consultations) Order, hon. Senators; Sen. Tabitha Keroche, Sen. Kibwana and the Senator for Nandi County, the Chairperson of the County Public Accounts (PAC) and the Senate Minority Whip and Senate...

There are those Senators who would wish to vote online. Sen. Dullo, proceed to vote. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I vote “yes”.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I vote “no”.

I am afraid that Sen. (Prof.) Tom Ojienda will not be allowed to cast his vote. Sen. Kisang, can we see you? I am afraid we cannot see Sen. Kisang. Therefore, he cannot vote.The following Senators should proceed to the Clerk’s Table and cast their votes: Sen. Lomenen, Sen. M....

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I vote “no”.

Mr. Speaker, can you hear me?

Can you beam honourable Professor Tom Ojienda on the screen, please?

How about myself, Mr. Speaker, Sir? (Laughter) How about myself, Mr. Speaker, Sir? (Laughter) Mr. Speaker, Sir, I confirm that it is mine. (Laughter) Mr. Speaker, Sir, I confirm that it is mine. (Laughter) I am dressed in an expensive suit, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Lomenen, proceed to the Dispatch Box and cast your vote. (Sen. Lomenen approached the Dispatch Box and voted) (Voting in progress) Sen. Lomenen, proceed to the Dispatch Box and cast your vote. (Sen. Lomenen approached the Dispatch Box and voted) (Voting in progress) Order, hon. Senators. The Senate Minority...

Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Serjeant-at-Arms, ring the Quorum Bell for another 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Order, hon. Senators, we now have quorum. We are ready to...

Next Order. The Senate Majority Leader, proceed. ALTERATION OF THE SENATE CALENDAR FOR THE THIRD SESSION

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Very well. I will now proceed to put the question. (Question put and agreed to) Next Order. A certified version of this Report COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR PRE-HEARING MEETING ON PROPOSED REMOVAL FROM OFFICE, BY IMPEACHMENT, OF THE GOVERNOR OF MERU COUNTY Hon. Senators, please, take your seats. Welcome back...

Thank you. Hon. Senators, ladies and gentlemen, on behalf of the Senate, I welcome the County Assembly’s team, the Governor’s team, members of the public and the media to the Senate and to these proceedings. Finally, I will now invite the Clerk to read the Charges against Hon. Kawira Mwangaza,...

Thank you. Hon. Senators, ladies and gentlemen, on behalf of the Senate, I welcome the County Assembly’s team, the Governor’s team, members of the public and the media to the Senate and to these proceedings. Finally, I will now invite the Clerk to read the Charges against Hon. Kawira Mwangaza,...

A certified version of this Report

So, let us dispense with that first. Then you may proceed to make your opening statement. Mr. Njiru Ndegwa: In the alternative, if these are not going to be summoned, we seek to expunge from the record the affidavit of one Nkanata Dickson Munene, and most importantly the offending paragraph...

A certified version of this ReportThe first step towards success is taking responsibility for your actions. The measures of one's character is attributed to the ability to manage the responsibilities that have been bestowed and granted unto you. What is your role if you cannot be held accountable and always...

I will now invite the Counsel for the Governor to proceed to make an opening statement. Your time starts running from now. Not more than 30 minutes. OPENING STATEMENT ON BEHALF OF THE MERU COUNTY GOVERNOR

Sen. Mungatana, you will have an opportunity to make intervention on this opening statement when the time arises. (Sen. Mungatana spoke off record) What is your issue on the use of language? Are you saying there is a language that is unparliamentary?

Sen. Mungatana, if it is their case that the County Assembly is lying, then they can say so. This case is before two parties; the Governor and the County Assembly. The Governor is saying that we are being fed with untruths. You may want to romanticize that word, but say...

A certified version of this ReportMr. Speaker, Sir, on 8th November, 2023, I had the privilege of appearing before the Senate and addressing this House on a Motion for removal from office of Governor Kawira Mwangaza. That was the third attempt that had been made to remove Her Excellency, Hon....

Counsel for the Governor, your time is up.

I will give you one more minute.

Hon. Senators, kindly be upstanding. A certified version of this Report ADJOURNMENT Hon. Senators, it is now 12.49 p.m., time to adjourn the Senate. The Senate, therefore, stands adjourned until today, Monday, 19th August, 2024 at 2.30

Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Speaker) Sen. Orwoba and Sen. Beth Syengo, take your seats so that we start this afternoon’s business. (Sen. Orwoba and Sen. Beth Syengo walked into the Chamber) Clerk, you may proceed to call the first Order. HEARING AND DETERMINATION OF...

Apologies, Counsel for the County Assembly. Hon. Members, kindly be seated and be silent as the County Assembly is presenting its case. Let us hear the witness in total silence. Proceed, Counsel.

Counsel, before you play that video, we have one of our Senators, Sen. Crystal Asige, who is visually impaired and she may not be able to see the English rendered translation. In this case, we may need a translator to translate it and explain by word, so that the hon....

What is your issue, Sen. Crystal Asige?

Counsel for the County Assembly, I thought that as the video was running, the translator was taking notes, so that they can translate verbatim? We will replay that video one sentence at a time, so that it becomes a true rendition of what is said in that vernacular. Secretariat, I...

The Minority Leader, what is your intervention? The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Madzayo) : Can the Counsel go slowly? We are trying to catch up with these volumes as he keeps on leading the witness. We are also recording.

Counsel, if you refer to a page, allow the Senators to get to that page before you flip to another page. Otherwise, you will lose them along the way. Kindly, proceed.

You have done slightly over one hour. So, just be guided on the time.

Counsel for the County Assembly kindly pause a bit. Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, what is your intervention?

You will have that opportunity Senator.

Not now. She will tell you, but not now. You will have an opportunity to seek those clarifications. At that time, you will be given your clarification. Proceed, Counsel for the County Assembly.

Clerk, do we have a quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Order, hon. Senators. Kindly take your seats. (Sen. Tabitha Mutinda and Sen. Maanzo consulted loudly) Order, Sen. Sen. Tabitha Mutinda and the Senator for...

Sen. Methu, take your seat. Hon. Senators, if you have anything to share with your colleagues, pull them out, but let the Chamber be in total silence. This is a very important and weighty matter that we are discussing.

Next Order ESTABLISHMENT OF A SELECT COMMITTEE TO INVESTIGATE THE PROPOSED REMOVAL FROM OFFICE, BY IMPEACHMENT, OF THE GOVERNOR OF MERU COUNTY, HON. KAWIRA MWANGAZA Proceed, Senate Majority Leader.

Order, hon. Senators. May the Minority Leader be heard in silence. (Sen. Cherargei consulted loudly) Order, Senator for Nandi. The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Madzayo) : Twende kwa njia ya kamati kwa sababu njia ya kamati au ile njia ya Bunge lote kuhusishwa, uamuzi huo utafanywa na Maseneta. Kila Seneta...

Maseneta, ni lazima tuweze kuamua ikiwa tunataka kwenda ile njia ya kamati au Seneti nzima ambapo Maseneta wote wanachangia katika Hoja hii iliyo mbele yetu.Najua Bunge la Seneti linajulikana kwamba lipo na Maseneta majabali, maseneta ambao wanaweza kuketi wakasikiza kesi na kukata kisawasawa. Sintofahamu ni kwamba pengine kukatokea cheche za...

What is your point of order, Sen.Wambua? (Sen. Cherarkey spoke off record)

What is your point of order, Sen.Wambua? PROCEDURAL MOTION LIMITATION OF DEBATE ON MOTION

you has 20 minutes to contribute. We may limit the 20 minutes to three minutes, so that as many of you can take to the Floor.Do I have your concurrence on this? you has 20 minutes to contribute. We may limit the 20 minutes to three minutes, so that as...

(Applause)

(Loud consultations)

Asante, Bw. Spika. Kwa sababu nimekuwa katika Seneti hii, ni vizuri Maseneta wote wakijumuishwa katika hili jambo kwa sababu ikipelekwa katika Kamati, maoni watakayo yaona haitaletwa hapa katika Bunge na wale watu tutakao wachagua. Bw. Spika, sina shida yoyote na wale Maseneta waliochaguliwa kwa sababu wanaujuzi na uzoefu na wanaweza...

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Sen. Sifuna, proceed.

Sen. Sifuna, your colleagues certainly cannot be said to be making noise.

I am referring to their contribution. It cannot be termed as noise.

Asante Bw. Spika. Kenya, kuna Kaunti ya Meru ambayo iko na wapiga kura takribani elfu mia nane. Leo sio siku ya kwanza kuongea kuhusu mambo ya Kaunti ya Meru. Leo ni mara ya tatu. Nashangaa sana nikisikia wenzangu wakisema tuchague Kamati ya watu kumi na moja. Kaunti zote arobaini na...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I do not know what the excitement is about. I stand to oppose the Motion on the appointment of a select committee to handle the impeachment of the Governor of Meru County for good reason. The Senate does not exist in a vacuum. We live...

Sen. Chute, proceed.

Sen. Dullo.

I thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I join my colleagues and I feel we should go the plenary way. This is because, we have twice prosecuted impeachment matters here in the plenary. The last time Governor Kawira was brought here, we went the plenary way and we made a decision...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for recognizing my new role as the Deputy Party Leader (DPL) of the Orange Democratic Movement (ODM) . I will speak as the Senator for Vihiga and not the DPL of ODM. The Motion is for us to either agree to a plenary or a...

Sen. (Dr.) Murango.

Sen. Ogola Beatrice. Sen. Beth Syengo.

Sen. Wakili Sigei, proceed.

Sen. Mumma, proceed.

Sen. Kisang’, proceed.

Sen. Kavindu Muthama, proceed.

Sen. Wamatinga, proceed. Sen. Sifuna, what is your point of order?

Sen. Wamatinga, proceed.

Proceed, Sen. Eddy Oketch.

Next is Sen. Methu.

Your time is up. Next is Sen. Githuku.

Sen. Boni, what clarification do you want to seek?

Sen. Boni, I have listened carefully to each one of you who have stood to contribute to this Motion, but I have not heard any of the Senators who have spoken saying that they have withdrawn. You can give your opinion. Once the House passes the Motion, at that particular...

Well guided. Under Article 123 and my colleague, Sen. Methu, has already spoken about it; you cannot tell us that if today I, as a specially elected Member, can vote for the impeachment of a Governor at the committee stage, yet the same Member cannot vote for the impeachment of...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise to oppose this particular Motion. I oppose it because I have looked at the list of the 11 Members and just as Sen. Chimera has correctly put, I have noted that five of the Members did not have an

Sen. Mandago. Sen. Tabitha Mutinda, proceed. (Sen. Olekina spoke off record) Sen. Olekina, how can you raise a point of order when he has long concluded his remarks? Proceed, Sen. Tabitha.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I withdraw and proceed to state that I believe the plenary will give our people of Meru County justice and it will also give them a bigger hearing than the committee.

Allow me to conclude and request my colleagues to be in the House during the plenary sitting, so as to listen to the allegations presented before this House. With that, we will maximally give the people of Meru a fair hearing and also a final justice as far as this...

Lastly, I have just looked at the list of former governors and deputy governors who have gone through impeachment. Apart from the Governor of Embu County, Gov. Wambora, who appeared before this House twice, it is only Governor Kawira who seems to be making history in this House by appearing...

Order, Senator for Nandi County. May the Senator be heard in silence. Proceed, Sen. Mutinda.

Sen. Recha Murgor Julius. Sen. Miraj, proceed.

Take your seat, hon. Senators. I will proceed to put the question. Sen. Okiya Omtatah, take your seat please. (Question put and negatived) (Loud consultations) Proceed, Senator for Nandi. POINT OF ORDER ROLE OF NOMINATED SENATORS DURING IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS

Proceed, Senator for Nandi.

Hon. Senators, I will render my considered ruling on that matter upon resumption. For now, be upstanding. ADJOURNMENT

Clerk, do we have a quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, ring the quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Hon. Senators, we do have a quorum now. Clerk, you may proceed to call the first Order. PAPERS LAID REPORT ON INQUIRY INTO THE LPG...

Is Sen. (Prof.) Kamar not here? That Order is dropped. (Notice of Motion dropped) Chairperson Standing Committee on Energy, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, proceed to give Notice of your Motion. ADOPTION OF REPORT ON INQUIRY INTO THE LPG EXPLOSION IN MRADI, NAIROBI CITY COUNTY

Is Sen. Karen Nyamu not here? That statement is dropped. (Statement dropped) MEASURES TO CURB THE SPREAD OF MONKEY POX OPERATIONS AT THE LAND REGISTRY OFFICE IN EMBU TOWN

The next statement is by Sen. Wakili Hillary Sigei. STALLED AND ABANDONED AGRICULTURAL INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS IN BOMET COUNTY

The next Statement is by Sen. Kathuri, but I do not see him. Sen. Cherarkey, you know you cannot have an audience because you have got some substantiations to make. You may proceed. Sen. Cherarkey: Mr. Speaker, Sir, I request for your indulgence. You directed that I substantiate two issues,...

Can I look at the letter before I give directions? (Sen. Cherarkey approached the Chair) Sen. Cherarkey, your request has been granted. You will substantiate upon resumption after the short recess. I had called the Senator for Meru, Sen. Kathuri Murungi. Is there any Senator holding brief for him? If...

Sen. Eddie, what is your point of order? I thought this was rather procedural for the Senate Majority Leader to give an update on the business of the House.

That is unfair. I must defend Sen. Eddie. (Laughter)

(Sen. Cherarkey resumed his seat) (Laughter)(Applause) Mr. Speaker, Sir, Sen. Cherarkey is smartly dressed today. I am sure this is not from Toi Market, which he claimed he shops from. (Laughter) (Applause)

County on pending bills. The reason I did that with a lot of hesitation is because the Senate had passed a Motion on how to handle pending bills.As the Senate Majority Leader, what will be the best way forward? I remember that in the Motion, all the 47 countries were...

Is it your request, Senate Majority Leader, that the CoB is summoned to appear before the Committee of the Whole to inform the House how far her office has gone in implementing the Motion as adopted by the Senate?

Before, I give directions, let me allow Sen. Olekina to make his intervention.

Hon. Senators, the reason I pose this question to the Senate Majority Leader is because there must be meaning to whatever resolutions the Senate makes. Otherwise, then you will be making resolutions that will never give you the results that you intended when you were making them. I suggest that...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, the Deputy Speaker requested that I read on his behalf. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) to seek a statement from the Standing Committee on Health on the status of health services in Meru County following an industrial strike of health workers that commenced on...

Sen. Crystal Asige, proceed. PERFORMANCE OF TEAM KENYA AT THE 2024 SUMMER OLYMPIC GAMES IN PARIS

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. On behalf of Sen. Wakili Sigei, I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) to seek a statement from the Standing Committee on Agriculture, Livestock and Fisheries regarding, stalled or abandoned infrastructure projects in Bomet County. Several incomplete and abandoned agricultural infrastructure projects in Bomet...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) , I rise to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Agriculture, Livestock and Fisheries on the unsold tea totaling to about 41 per cent of Kenya-produced tea at Mombasa Market, which is over Kshs32 billion. In the Statement, the...

We go back to the Floor of the House. Proceed, Sen. Beth Syengo.

Proceed, the Senate Majority Leader.

Sen. Veronica Maina, proceed.

Sen. Kinyua, proceed.

Asante, Bw. Spika. Ninaunga mkono ile Taarifa iliyoletwa na Seneta kutoka Meru, Sen. Kathuri. Kuna mikataba kati ya gatuzi zetu na madaktari kuhusu vile ambavyo matibabu yatakua yakielekezwa. Mikataba hii ni kama haina faida ya kukamilishwa ama wale wanaandika hii mikataba hawana haja ya kukamilisha. Ndio maana kila saa unapata...

Sen. Sifuna.

Sen. Cherarkey, you are totally out of order. Have a seat and allow Sen. Olekina to conclude his intervention.

Clerk, do we have quorum? Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Hon. Members, be upstanding. ADJOURNMENT

Clerk, do we have a quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Hon. Senators, we now have a quorum. Kindly take your seats so that we get down to the business. Sen. Osotsi, kindly take your...

Thank you, Senator for Meru County. Your point of clarification has got nothing to do with the Communication that I have made. However, it is valid. It is a matter that squarely falls in the arms of the PSC. I will take it up with the PSC to see to...

Very well, Sen. Crystal Asige. I believe the Parliamentary Service Commission (PSC) , in its wisdom, will handle that matter. I have further Communication to make, hon. Senators. VISITING DELEGATION FROM FRIENDS SCHOOL, KEVEYE GIRLS VISITING DELEGATION FROM STAREHE BOYS CENTRE (Starehe Boys Centre students remained standing in the Speaker’s...

Let us go to the next Order. The Senate Majority Leader, proceed. PAPERS LAID

Chairperson, Standing Committee on National Security, Defence and Foreign Relations, you may proceed. Where is the Chairperson Standing Committee on National Security, Defence and Foreign Relations? (Sen. Cheruiyot spoke off record) You have already laid both Papers. Okay. Proceed, Chairperson Standing Committee on Lands, Environment and Natural Resources. REPORT ON...

Next Order. NOTICES OF MOTIONS Motion to be given by that Committee. ADOPTION OF REPORT ON PETITION ON INSECURITY IN TURKANA COUNTY

Sen. (Prof.) Margaret Kamar? That Order is deferred. ALLOCATION OF SCHOLARSHIPS AND BURSARIES BY COUNTY GOVERNMENTS QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS STATEMENTS Statement pursuant to Standing Order No.52 (1) . Sen. Karen Nyamu. That Statement is dropped. INCESSANT TOI MARKET FIRE INCIDENCES BUNGOMA COUNTY GOVERNMENT PENDING BILLS

Sen. Alan Chesang’? Those two Statements are dropped. ANOMALIES IN THE TRANS NZOIA COUNTY EXECUTIVE PAYROLL TRANS NZOIA COUNTY EXECUTIVE PAYMENTS FOR SETTLEMENT OF COURT JUDGEMENTS AND DECREES STALLED AND ABANDONED HEALTH PROJECTS IN BOMET COUNTY

Proceed, Sen. Beth Syengo. DELAYED CAPITATION TO ECDE INSTITUTIONS IN NAIROBI CITY COUNTY

Sen. Chesang, having explained yourself to the satisfaction of the Chair, you may proceed to request for your Statements. ANOMALIES IN THE TRANS NZOIA COUNTY EXECUTIVE PAYROLL

Proceed. TRANS NZOIA COUNTY EXECUTIVE PAYMENTS FOR SETTLEMENT OF COURT JUDGEMENTS AND DECREES

Sen. Nyamu, having explained your absence to the satisfaction of the Chair, your matter is reinstated. You may now proceed to read your Statement. INCESSANT TOI MARKET FIRE INCIDENCES

Hon. Senators, I will allow 30 minutes for intervention of the Statements that have been sought. Therefore, we shall terminate at 3.53 p.m. Sen. Osotsi, proceed.

Sen. Kinyua, proceed. Bear in mind you have three minutes only.

Proceed, Sen. Sifuna.

Proceed, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale.

Proceed, Sen. Miraj.

Proceed, Sen. Cherarkey.

Next is Sen. Abass.

Sen. Seki, proceed.

Sen. Tabitha Mutinda, proceed.

Senate Majority Leader, proceed.

Sen. Kavindu, proceed.

Sen. Olekina, proceed.

Sen. Omtatah, proceed.

Clerk, do we have a quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly, ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Hon. Senators, I have been informed that we now have a quorum. Those who are standing, kindly proceed to take your seats. (Several Senators...

Hon. Senators, pursuant to Standing Order No.238 (1) , I commit the Petition to the Standing Committee on Land, Environment and Natural Resources. In terms of Standing Order No.238 (2) (a) , the Committee is required in not more than 60 calendar days from the time of reading this prayer,...

Sen. Faki, kindly take your seat and acquaint yourself with the amended Standing Orders as far as Petitions are concerned. Next Order. QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS STATMENENTS Statements pursuant to Standing Order No.52 (1) . Proceed, Sen. Lemaletian. ELECTION OBSERVATION MISSION IN RWANDA

Sen. Karen Nyamu, proceed. A certified version of this ReportThat Statement is dropped. RISE OF CYBERBULLYING IN KENYA REPLACEMENT OF LOST ACADEMIC CERTIFICATES BY KNEC

Hon. Senators, before we move to the next Order, allow me to make the following Communication – I would like to acknowledge the presence in the Public Gallery this afternoon, of visiting students from High Flyer Scouts Open Crew from Lugari, Kakamega County. The delegation comprises one teacher and 12...

Sen. Boni, if you are to ever welcome a delegation, you need to change your ways. Reserve some language to some social gatherings back in Kakamega, not before the House. (Resumption of Statements) Request for statements pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) , the Senator for Bungoma County, Sen. David...

Order, hon. Senators. Sen. Wakoli, when the Chair speaks, you put a break to your speech.

Thank you. Proceed, Sen. Mwaruma. BLOCKAGE OF NJORO SARAFU WATER CHANNEL AT CHUMVINI, TAITA-TAVETA COUNTY

The two Statements by Sen. Alan Chesang shall be deferred pursuant to his own request. ANOMALIES IN THE TRANS NZOIA COUNTY EXECUTIVE PAYROLL TRANS NZOIA COUNTY EXECUTIVE PAYMENTS FOR SETTLEMENT OF COURT JUDGEMENTS AND DECREES CONSIDERATION OF SPEAKER'S COMMUNICATION ON THE REPORT OF THE SENATE NOMINEE TO SRC

Hon. Senators, we will have interventions on those Statements for a maximum period of 30 minutes. From my dashboard, I have quite a number of Senators indicating their willingness to make interventions in this regard. Therefore, we may have to limit the time each of us will speak. I will...

Sen. Joe Nyutu and Sen. Gataya Mo Fire, there is decorum in the Chamber. You do not mount each other. (Laughter)(Laughter)

Before I call upon another Senator to speak, allow me to make the following Communication. (Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale consulted with Sen. Orwoba) Sen. Khalwale, please, take your seat. (Interruption of Statements) COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR VISITING DELEGATION FROM KAPUTIEI SECONDARY SCHOOL, NANDI COUNTY (Applause) A certified version of this ReportI...

Sen. Mungatana, proceed.

Sen. Crystal Asige.

Sen. Joe Nyutu.

Sen. Beth Syengo.

Proceed, Sen. Chute.

Sen. Chute, acquaint yourself with the amended Standing Orders, more particularly on the Petitions. We amended our Standing Orders such that, immediately the Petition is committed, no comments should ensue and that Senators will have an opportunity to comment on the report as tabled by the committee that is looking...

Proceed, Sen. Orwoba.

Now the 30 minutes meant for this session is done. We will move to the Next Order. Next Order. THE CREATIVE ECONOMY SUPPORT BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.30 OF 2024) Next Order. First Reading THE LIVESTOCK PROTECTION AND SUSTAINABILITY BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.32 OF 2024) Next Order. First Reading THE SPORTS...

Remember, last time, you did not move this Motion. You came up with a preliminary issue, which I ruled on. Now that you are proceeding with the Motion, you need to move it. Once you are done, get your seconder to second and then we will propose the question and...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, are you done moving your Motion? A certified version of this Report

Clerk, do we have quorum? Serjeant-at- Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Order, hon. Senators. We now have quorum, so we proceed with today's business. Clerk, proceed to call the first Order. The Chairperson, Standing Committee on Health. Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe Ltumbesi,...

The Chairperson, Standing Committee on Energy, proceed. REPORT ON THE LOCAL CONTENT BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.50 OF 2023)

Let us go to the next Order. NOTICES OF MOTIONS

Let us move on to the next Order. Statement pursuant to Standing Order No. 53 (1) . Sen. Osotsi, proceed. QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS STATEMENTS Statement pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) . Sen. Osotsi, proceed. STATE OF VOCATIONAL TRAINING CENTRES IN VIHIGA COUNTY Sen. Beatrice, you need to indicate whether...

Proceed. STATUS OF PAYMENT OF STIPEND TO COMMUNITY HEALTH PROMOTERS

The next Statement is by Sen. Wakoli. If he is not here, the Statement is dropped. PENDING BILLS OWED TO CONTRACTORS BY BUNGOMA COUNTY GOVERNMENT Next is the Statement pursuant to Standing Order No.57 (1) by the Senate Majority Leader. BUSINESS FOR THE WEEK COMMENCING TUESDAY, 6TH AUGUST, 2024

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, what is your intervention?

Sen. Boni, there is nothing to clarify. (Laughter) THE PUBLIC FUNDRAISING APPEALS BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.36 OF 2024) Next Order. Second Reading THE CONSTITUTION OF KENYA (AMENDMENT) (NO.2) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.52 OF 2023) (Bill deferred)Hon. Senators, this is a constitutional amendment, which requires the presence of 45 Senators. We...

Thank you, Sen. Boni. As you sit, in front of you is written ‘the Majority Whip.’ (Laughter) ADOPTION OF REPORT ON DESTRUCTION OF SIANY WETLAND IN NYAMIRA COUNTY THE LOCAL CONTENT BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.50 OF 2023) Hon. Senators, before I allow debate on this Order, allow me to make...

The Public and the Speaker's Gallery are available to members of the public wishing to come and follow through debate and proceedings during Plenary. However, as the Chair or Senator, you do not have powers to force members of public to attend. As and when they wish to come, our...

Sen. Wamatinga, I thought you would go beyond that. Maybe, you are not getting me because I thought you would put a request, but let me do it on your behalf. We do not seem to have the necessary delegations for purposes of going to Division and, therefore, I will...

Senator for Nandi, would you wish to be informed by Sen. Orwoba?

You may proceed, Sen. Orwoba.

Sen. Orwoba, that is a point of order actually? I do not see any information there that is useful. Proceed to conclude, Sen. Cherarkey.

Proceed, Sen. Chimera.

Before I call the next Speaker, allow me to make this Communication. (Interruption of debate on Bill) COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR VISITING DELEGATION FROM MARANDA HIGH SCHOOL

From the Minority Side, Sen. Beatrice Akinyi, you may say a word of welcome.

I am informed that Sen. Betty Montet has a special attachment to that school. You may also proceed to extend your word of welcome.

Sen. Joe Nyutu, you may proceed to contribute to the Bill, not welcoming the students. (Resumption of debate on Bill)

Clerk, do we have quorum? Serjeant-at- Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) We have quorum now and we will proceed with today’s business. Clerk, please, proceed to call the first Order. ADOPTION OF REPORTS OF THE AUDITOR-GENERAL ON FINANCIAL STATEMENTS OF VARIOUS...

The Floor is now open for debate. Proceed, Sen. Maanzo.

Proceed, Sen. Mungatana.

Sen. Ogola, proceed.

Sen. (Dr.) Bonny Khalwale.

What is your point of information?

Kindly proceed to inform the Hon. Senator.

Proceed, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale.

Proceed, Sen. Dullo.

Proceed Sen. Thang’wa.

Clerk, do we have quorum? Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Hon. Senators, kindly take your seats. We do have quorum now. So, we can proceed with the afternoon’s business. Clerk, you may proceed to call the first Order. (Sen. Ali Roba...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, proceed.

Thank you. Let us leave it at that. Chairman of the Committee, Sen. Ali Roba, you have heard the concerns of your colleagues. As you retire to look at those letters, kindly address those concerns so that we have a very comprehensive report that is addressing the concerns that have...

Proceed, Chairperson, Standing Committee on Finance and Budget. REPORT ON CONSIDERATION OF THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY AMENDMENTS TO THE EQUALIZATION FUND APPROPRIATION (NO.2) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.30 OF 2023)

Next Order. Sen. Lomenen, proceed. QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS STATEMENTS REHABILITATION AND GRADING OF MURRAM ROADS IN BANDITRY-PRONE AREAS IN TURKANA COUNTY

Senator for Nyandarua, Sen. John Methu. STATUS OF INSURANCE COVER FOR NYANDARUA COUNTY GOVERNMENT VEHICLES

Sen. Richard Onyonka. EXPLORATION OF MINERALS IN KENYA

Sen. Mohamed Chute. OPERATIONS OF NRT IN MARSABIT COUNTY

Next Statement. MANAGEMENT OF OPERATIONS OF KIBUYE MARKET IN KISUMU COUNTY STATUS OF WORLD BANK FUNDED PROJECTS IN TAITA TAVETA COUNTY

Senator for Meru County, have your seat. Do not debate your statement, please. Just take your seat. Statements pursuant to Standing Order No. 58. Sen Mohamed Chute? PERSONAL STATEMENT FALSE REPORTS ABOUT EACC OFFICERS ARRESTING SEN. CHUTE

Hon. Senators, I will allow 30 minutes of intervention. It is now 3.32 p.m. So, we will terminate at 4.02 p.m. Proceed Sen. Maanzo.

What is your point of order, Senate Majority Leader?

Hon. Senators, the time allowable for intervention on statements is not more than 30 minutes. That is why I have given the maximum to the entire Senate. As you speak, be mindful of that fact. I know that a Senator rising to speak has 20 minutes. However, you have to...

Senate Majority Leader?

Sen. Osotsi, proceed.

Sen. Cherarkey, proceed.

Sen. Richard Onyonka, proceed.

Sen. Gloria Orwoba, proceed.

Sen. Wambua Enoch, proceed.

Proceed, Sen. John Methu.

Sen. Methu, that matter is not before us. So, we cannot do anything. Just wait until it gets here. Proceed, Sen. Hezena.

Proceed, Sen. (Dr.) Boni Khalwale.

Sen. Boni, you need to adhere to the Standing Orders. You should not discuss the conduct of an officer who may not get a chance to rebut what you are alleging. Proceed.

Sen. Orwoba, get hold of that statement by Sen. Kathuri. It is very far from what you are alleging. Proceed and conclude. (Applause)

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, I have already ruled on the point of order raised by Sen. Faki. Please, do not go there. If you are done with your intervention, I may proceed to call Sen. Oketch Gicheru. He will be informed at the Lounge. Proceed, Sen. Eddie.

Sen. Omogeni, what is your intervention? You seem not to be settled. Have a seat, Sen. Oketch.

Sen. Oketch, proceed to conclude.

Proceed, Sen. Mungatana.

Sen. Joe Nyutu, proceed.

Clerk, do we have quorum? Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) (Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale consulted Sen. Orwoba) (Sen. Shakila Abdalla walked into the Chamber) Order, hon. Senators! Sen. (Dr.) Boni and Sen. Shakila Abdalla, take your seats. We do have quorum now...

Next Order. Proceed, the Chairperson Committee on Delegated on Legislation. NOTICES OF MOTIONS ADOPTION OF REPORT ON VARIOUS STATUTORY INSTRUMENTS ON LAND MATTERS

Next Order. EXTENSION OF TIME FOR CONSIDERATION OF VALUERS (FORMS AND FEES) (AMENDMENT) RULES, 2024 (LEGAL NOTICE NO.69 OF 2024, THE SURVEY (AMENDMENT) REGULATIONS, 2024 (LEGAL NOTICE NO.71 OF 2024) AND THE LAND ADJUDICATION (AMENDMENT) REGULATIONS, 2024 (LEGAL NOTICE NO.76 OF 2024)

Next Order. Statements pursuant to Standing Order No.52 (1) . Sen. James Lomenen, please, proceed. QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS STATEMENTS AFFIRMATIVE ACTION TO INCREASE REPRESENTATION OF MARGINALIZED AND UNDERREPRESENTED COMMUNITIES IN PUBLIC SERVICE

Then proceed. RECRUITMENT OF ADDITIONAL NPRS IN BANDITRY-PRONE AREAS OF TURKANA COUNTY

Statements pursuant to Standing Order No. 53 (1) . Sen. Mwaruma, you may proceed. BANK ACCOUNTS OPERATED BY TAITA-TAVETA COUNTY GOVERNMENT

Sen. Boni, proceed. NON-USE OF THE FIFTY-CENT AND ONE-SHILLING COINS IN TRADING ACTIVITIES

Before I call Cherarkey, Sen. Sifuna and Sen. Boni, kindly approach the Chair. (Sen. Sifuna and Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale approached the Chair) Sen. Cherarkey, you may proceed. ALLEGED INFLAMMATORY STATEMENTS, MISINFORMATION, AND FAKE NEWS ON SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS IN KENYA

Proceed, Sen. Mbugua. APPROVAL OF BUILDING PLANS BY MOMBASA COUNTY GOVERNMENT

Let us go to the next Order. THE HOUSES OF PARLIAMENT (BICAMERAL RELATIONS) BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.44 OF 2023) Hon. Senators, we have eight divisions to undertake. I realise that we have the requisite number of delegates. Therefore, we may proceed with this exercise that has been deferred for...

We will come back to that after the Divisions. You will have an opportunity to comment. (The Division Bell was rung) Hon. Senators, the five minutes are long spent. Serjeant-at-Arms, proceed to close the door and draw the Bar. (The Bar was drawn and doors closed) Hon. Senators, we are...

Take your seat, Sen. Lomenen.

Sen. Lomenen, kindly, take your seat. Having listened to you and having listened to Sen. Okiya Omtatah, certainly, there was some confusion. I will, therefore, direct that another round of voting be taken on this particular Order. (Loud consultations) No, a fresh round will be taken for everybody. We are...

You are totally out of order, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale! Clerk, can you put the system on the screen to allow hon. Senators to vote? (Voting in progress) (Loud consultations)

Order, hon. Senators. The voting period is concluded. I am waiting for the results. Can you let the Clerk-at-the-Table do his job?

Order, Sen. Gloria! (Loud consultations) DIVISION ELECTRONIC VOTING AYES: 23 NOES: 4 ABSTENTIONS: 0 Hon. Senators, the Bill fails to garner the requisite delegation and therefore it fails. (The Bill was negatived by 23 votes to 4) Next Order. Second Reading THE PUBLIC TRANSPORT (MOTORCYCLE REGULATION) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.38...