Amason Jeffah Kingi

Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at the-Table consulted the Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) (The Clerk-at-the Table consulted with the Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, I am informed that we now have Quorum. Kindly, stop ringing the Bell. Clerk, please, proceed to...

Sen. Kathuri, you are supposed to lay a Paper. Kindly proceed if you are ready.

Next Order. STATEMENTS THE GOOD PERFORMANCE BY KENYAN ATHLETES IN THE LONDON AND BOSTON MARATHONS

Statement pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) by Sen. Mundigi. DESTRUCTION OF CROPS BY WILDLIFE IN EMBU COUNTY

Proceed, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale.

Thank you. Proceed, Sen. Mungatana.

Proceed, Sen. Cheruiyot.

Proceed, Sen. Dullo.

We move to the next Statement by Sen. Crystal Asige. MANAGEMENT AND COLLECTION OF MUSIC ROYALTIES IN KENYA

Sen. Cherarkey, proceed.

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, proceed.

Sen. Orwoba, proceed.

We move to the next Statement by Sen. Kibwana. ALLEGATIONS OF SHORTAGE OF OXYGEN IN EMERGENCY CARE FACILITIES IN THE COUNTRY

Sen. Chute, please proceed.

Sen. Kisang, please proceed.

Sen. Okenyuri, you have the Floor.

Sen. Abass, you have the Floor.

We will now move to the next Statement by Sen. Cherarkey. OPERATIONS AND FINANCIAL STATUS OF KENYA AIRWAYS

Sen. Veronica Maina, you have the Floor.

Sen. Wamatinga, proceed.

Sen. Okiya Omtatah, you may proceed.

Proceed, Sen. Ali Roba.

Proceed, Sen. Wafula.

Sen. Onyonka.

Proceed, Sen. Chute.

Hon. Senators, we have long exceeded the one hour meant for the Statements time. Therefore, I am going to allow Sen. Orwoba five minutes then we end there.

Conclude, Sen. Orwoba

Thank you. Hon. Senators, we now move to the Statement by Sen. Murango. That has been dropped. He had three Statements. Having sent no Senator to hold his brief, his three Statements stand dropped from the Order Paper. ESTABLISHMENT OF PUBLIC TEACHERS TRAINING COLLEGE IN KIRINYAGA COUNTY AMPUTATION OF BABY...

Hon. Senators, the Floor is now open. Sen. Mungatana, MGH.

There being no other Senator wishing to respond; there being no debate at all, I do not think I will call the Mover to respond. I will, therefore, proceed to put the question. (Question put and agreed to) Next Order. THE COUNTY ALLOCATION OF REVENUE BILL (SENATE BILLS NO. 16...

Next Order. PAPERS LAID REPORT ON THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS OF VARIOUS ENTITIES

Next Order. Hon. Senators, we have a supplementary Order Paper. I would like to assume and hope that you are in receipt of it. It is the Order Paper that we are going to use to transact business today. So, kindly, get a copy of the Supplementary Order Paper because...

Clerk, read the Next Order. QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS STATEMENTS UJENZI WA BARABARA YA MZUNGUKO JIJINI MOMBASA Let us have the Statement Pursuant to Standing Order 53 (1) by Sen. Faki.

Sen. Mwaruma, proceed.

Sen. Cheptumo, proceed.

We will move to the next Statement. Sen. Dullo, you have the Floor. DELAYED EXCHEQUER DISBURSEMENT TO COUNTIES

Sen Mandago, you have the Floor.

Sen. Osotsi, you have the Floor.

Indeed, this matter is committed to the Senate Standing Committee on Finance and Budget and the Senate Standing Committee on Information, Communication and Technology. Let us move to the next Statement by Sen. Chute.

It is so committed. Hon. Senators, before Sen. Sifuna takes the Floor, I have a Communication to make. COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR VISITING DELEGATION FROM THE PARLIAMENT OF ZAMBIA Hon. Senators, I wish to acknowledge the presence, in the Speaker’s Gallery this afternoon, of a visiting delegation from the Parliament...

You cannot raise a point of order when the Senator has already rested. Proceed, Sen. Sifuna.

Sen. Cherarkey, we know what constitutes a Government Ministry. The hon. Sen. M. Kajwang’ was speaking for and on behalf of the Opposition. Therefore, maybe in their shadow Cabinet, there exists a Ministry of Entertainment. Sen. Sifuna, please, proceed.

Proceed, Sen. Cherarkey.

Thank you. That Statement is committed to the Committee of Labour and Social Services. Let us move to Sen. Chute, who had another Statement to request. Did you combine the Statements when you took to the Floor? (Sen. Chute consulted loudly) We shall proceed to Sen. Cherarkey. HEALTH SERVICE PROVISION...

Proceed, Sen. Oketch Gicheru.

Kindly proceed, Sen. Miraj.

Sen. Okiya Omtatah, kindly, proceed.

Sen. Okiya Omtatah, thank you for your comments. Statement by Sen. (Dr.) Murango. Sen. (Dr.) Murango had three Statements. They have been deferred. ESTABLISHMENT OF PUBLIC TEACHER TRAINING COLLEGE IN KIRINYAGA COUNTY CIRCUMSTANCES SURROUNDING THE AMPUTATION OF BABY NOOR’S FINGERS DELAYED CONSTRUCTION OF WAMUMU KEMRI STATION REVIEW OF THE DEVOLVED...

Sen. M. Kajwang’ are you also on the same queue?

We now move to Statements pursuant to Standing Order No.57 (1) . This is a Statement by the Senate Majority Leader. BUSINESS FOR THE WEEK COMMENCING TUESDAY, 2ND MAY, 2023

Next Order. ESTABLISHMENT OF AD HOC COMMITTEE TO INVESTIGATE THE DEATHS IN SHAKAHOLA, KILIFI COUNTY

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, you are supposed to move the Motion in its amended form and beg the permission of the Chair to do so.

Okay. Sen. Madzayo, please proceed. The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Madzayo) : Asante, Bw. Spika. Ninaunga

Hon. Senators, the Floor is now open for debate. Sen. Tabitha Keroche, proceed. On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I have observed today and I want your guidance. Today, we had strangers and students from a particular school in the House and they were neither recognized nor welcomed. Again, I can see strangers in the Public Gallery. Our tradition has it that they need...

Thank you. Before we proceed with the debate, you will allow me to make communication. COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR VISITING DELEGATION FROM MUHORONI COLLEGE/ UNIVERSITY STUDENTS ASSOCIATION Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Our dear visitors in the Public Gallery, you are most welcome to the Senate of the Republic of...

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for giving me this opportunity. I wish to fully support the Motion by Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale and to congratulate him for guiding this House to go the way that we are going. I support every name that has been proposed for this assignment. I have...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise to support this Motion and encourage the Members who have been appointed to work diligently and come up with solutions.Mr. Speaker, Sir, we are all victims of blessings from such pastors that we have seen today. Each one of us has at least...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, thank you. Karl Max described religion as the opium of the masses. The work that we do in this Senate, is to try and bring sanity to what we consider insane.

Asante sana, Bw. Spika, kwa kunipa fursa hii niweze kuchangia suala hili. Maafa ambayo yametokea hivi juzi kule Kilifi ni maafa ambayo yanasikitisha ulimwengu mzima. Runinga zote hapa nchini na ulimwanguni, hasa Cable News Network (CNN) na Aljazeera zinaangazia maafa yaliyotokea Kilifi. Inasikitisha sana. Mwenyezi Mungu aijalie nchi yetu iwe...

Proceed, Sen. Cheptumo.

Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at-the Table consulted the Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly stop the bell. I am informed that we now have the requisite quorum. Clerk, kindly call the...

Cabinet Secretary, kindly proceed to respond to that question. The Cabinet Secretary for Interior and National Administration (Hon. (Prof.) Kindiki) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, thank you for inviting me. It is a great honour and privilege for me to appear before this House. I have fond memories of the ten...

Hon. Senator, today is the very first time we are doing this. I will be giving a lot of latitude to both the CS and the Members. However, kindly you ought to ask direct supplementary questions. It is not an opportunity to make a speech and thereafter, you pose the...

Hon. CS, kindly proceed, to respond to the two supplementary questions. The Cabinet Secretary for Interior and National Administration (Hon. (Prof.) Kindiki) : Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I am sorry for veering off the Standing Orders. I was still in the past, in my previous role as a Senator....

Hon. CS, kindly proceed and you have got one minute. The Cabinet Secretary for Interior and National Administration (Hon. (Prof.) Kindiki) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, all the gazetted administrative units will be operationalized. However, due to budgetary constraints, we decided to operationalize all the already gazetted areas in three phases...

Proceed, CS. The Cabinet Secretary for Interior and National Administration (Hon. (Prof.) Kindiki) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, in response to the supplementary question asked by the distinguished Sen. (Prof) Kamar, I would like to respond as follows- The policy of the Government of Kenya on any Kenyan displaced as a...

Hon. Cabinet Secretary (CS) , you may have the Floor. The Cabinet Secretary for Interior and National Administration (Hon. (Prof.) Kindiki) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, in response to the supplementary question raised by the distinguished Senator for Meru county, I tell the House that the use of force is an...

Hon. CS, kindly, proceed. The Cabinet Secretary for Interior and National Administration (Hon. (Prof.) Kindiki) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, I respond as follows with regard to the supplementary question raised by the distinguished Senator for Kakamega County. We have made significant progress in tracking and nailing the master bites of...

Hon. Senators, the reason I always ask you to read your Standing Orders is because of such. You are raising a point of order on who? There is no Senator who is on his feet. (Sen. Kinyua spoke off record) Hon. Senators, I have a Communication to make. Sen. Kinyua,...

Thank you, Hon. Senators. I will now proceed to discharge the Cabinet Secretary (CS) Interior and Coordination of National Government. I have noticed that most of these so-called supplementary questions can actually be posed as substantive questions. The mere fact that you have not gotten an opportunity to ask your...

Thank you, Sen. Cherarkey. This is the first Session we are having on these newly introduced Standing Orders. Going forward, of course, we are learning. Looking at the weight and the interest that is normally generated whenever the CS for Interior and Coordination of National Government appears, either before the...

Cabinet Secretary, kindly proceed. The Cabinet Secretary for Lands, Public Works, Housing and Urban Development (Hon. Njeru) : Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for giving me this chance to appear before this august House. I appreciate the question by Sen. Dullo. I request for your indulgence and guidance because as...

Very well. Sen. Dullo, this is Chapter 15 of the Constitution---

Proceed, Sen. Cherarkey. He is not here. Proceed, Sen. Chute.

Hon. CS, kindly proceed. What is your point of order, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale.

Hon. CS, kindly proceed. The Cabinet Secretary for Lands, Public Works, Housing and Urban Development (Hon. Njeru) : Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. In regards to the land issues in Moyale, I inform this House that I am not aware, but I shall look into it and give satisfactory response....

Hon. CS, kindly proceed. The Cabinet Secretary for Lands, Public Works, Housing and Urban Development (Hon. Njeru) : Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. The Government is in the process of securing all public land in the country. This is a process we have started with learning institutions; universities, technical colleges...

Hon. Senators, as you ask your supplementary questions, let it be related to the primary Question. This will allow the honourable Cabinet Secretary to give you a comprehensive answer. Any supplementary question that is not related to the primary Question will get the response you have just received from the...

Honourable CS, proceed. The Cabinet Secretary for Lands, Public Works, Housing and Urban Development (Hon. Njeru) : Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I would like to report that we are in the process of opening up registries in areas that had no registries. This is in line with what the...

Honourable CS, proceed. The Cabinet Secretary for Lands, Public Works, Housing and Urban Development (Hon. Njeru) : Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I would like this House to note that even when it comes to budgeting, the Ministry presents the budget for itself and the NLC. However, when it comes...

Hon. CS, you may respond. The Cabinet Secretary for Lands, Public Works, Housing and Urban Development (Hon. Njeru) : Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Thank you, Sen. Mungatana MGH, for appreciating my visit to Tana River County. It is true we agreed with the Committee on Land, Environment and Natural...

Hon. CS, you may respond. The Cabinet Secretary for Lands, Public Works, Housing and Urban Development (Hon. Njeru) : Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Mandera and Tana River counties are all under community land. I wish to report that we have started gazetting those lands. After that, we will ensure...

Sen. Gataya Mo Fire, proceed.

CS, please, proceed. The Cabinet Secretary for Lands, Public Works, Housing and Urban Development (Hon. Njeru) : Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I am informed by the National Land Commission (NLC) that payments are being processed. They will be paid soon. Sen. Kinyua, proceed.

Sen. Kinyua, you do not expect the CS to give you details. He never prepared to come and answer that particular question. That is why I keep reminding Senators that your supplementary questions should flow from the primary Question. Otherwise, then the CS will be very general because any question...

If the matter is still pending before a Select Committee, you cannot pose it as a Question to the Minister. If you read a Standing Order No. 51 (b) , (3) (k) it says- “A Question shall not refer to proceedings of a Select Committee before the Committee has made...

Hon. CS, proceed. The Cabinet Secretary for Lands, Public Works, Housing and Urban Development (Hon.) Njeru): Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. You realized that there are a lot of issues which are with the National Lands Commission (NLC) . However, there is no boundary to separate the two. What the...

Hon. CS, I hope that you have gotten the Question. Proceed to respond. The Cabinet Secretary for Lands, Public Works, Housing and Urban Development (Hon.) Njeru): Asante sana, Bw. Spika. Swali hilo ni nyeti. Kile ambacho ningeweza kuelezea Bunge hili ni kwamba kuna Lands Control Boards ambazo ziko katika sub-county....

Hon. CS, proceed. The Cabinet Secretary for Lands, Public Works, Housing and Urban Development (Hon.) Njeru): Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I must confess that I do not have a ready answer for that. However, the issue of nullification of the title deeds is a court matter. So, we cannot...

Hon. CS, proceed. The Cabinet Secretary for Lands, Public Works, Housing and Urban Development (Hon.) Njeru): Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, and thank you for that question. I report that there is proper engagement between the Ministry and the County Government of Machakos. I have severally met with the County...

Proceed, Cabinet Secretary (CS) . The Cabinet Secretary for Lands, Public Works, Housing and Urban Development (Hon. Njeru) : Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. It is true. We have had problems with double allocation where you find one parcel of land has more than one title. I want to assure...

Indeed, Sen. Cherarkey, your concerns are valid. If you notice, all the Senators who asked supplementary questions have raised a concern that their supplementary questions have not been given an adequate response. Now, strictly, it was not a supplementary question but a new Question all together. Hon. Senators, if we...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, why do you want to walk a long journey yet you can actually summon NLC at the Committee level? Why do you want to tell the CS to go back to the Chief Cabinet Secretary (CCS) , have a tripeptide meeting with the NLC, craft a response...

Hon. Senators, there are matters that I think are subject to discussion at Select Business Committee (SBC) . Let us not handle them at a plenary. Going forward, your concerns have been harvested. Certainly, when the SBC sits to discuss these matters, we will be able to give a proper...

I think any matter that is committed to a Committee, the Standing Orders actually provide the time within which Committees should work. So, it will follow the same order. Yes, Sen. Cheptumo, what is your clarification?

Thank you, Sen. Cheptumo. I am informed that the CS for Mining, Blue Economy and Maritime Affairs is now present. Is that the position? Sen. Dullo, kindly proceed to ask your question. Question No. 004 RATIONALE FOR IMPOSITION OF EXISTING MORATORIUM ON ISSUANCE OF MINING RIGHTS

Hon. CS, kindly proceed to respond to the question. The Cabinet Secretary for Mining, Blue Economy and Maritime Affairs (Hon. Mvurya) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, and Hon. Members of the Senate, I have my comprehensive statement on the issues raised. However, before I read them, I take this opportunity to...

Hon. CS, maybe I help you by rephrasing the two supplementary questions. They were, one, the Hon. Sen. wishes to know, when are you going to lift this moratorium? Specific date as to when you are going to lift the moratorium. Secondly, are you aware that there has been so...

Proceed, Sen. Mungatana.

Proceed, Hon. CS. Keep it short. The Cabinet Secretary for Mining, Blue Economy and Maritime Affairs (Hon. Mvurya) : Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. The Mining Act of 2016 is very clear on the sharable benefits for mining and other mineral activities. The Act stipulates that 70 percent of revenue...

Hon. CS, proceed to respond. The Cabinet Secretary for Mining, Blue Economy and Maritime Affairs (Hon. Mvurya) : Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. This question has two parts. First, I would like to note that the technical response to this question would be in the Ministry of Energy and Petroleum....

Clerk, do we have the requisite quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) I am informed that we now have the requisite quorum. So, Clerk, you may proceed to call the first Order. NOTICE OF MOTION...

Sen. Abass, you are supposed to give Notice of Motion and not to make a Statement. ADOPTION OF REPORT ON RELOCATION OF NATIONAL GOVERNMENT ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES FROM CHUKA TOWN

Let us go to the next Order. STATEMENTS We will begin with Statements pursuant to Standing Order No.52 (1) . Sen. Kibwana is not present. Therefore, those Statements are dropped. STATE OF HEALTH AND SAFETY IN SCHOOLS ELECTIONS OF OFFICIALS TO KEWOSA Next are Statements pursuant to Standing Order No.53...

Before we move to the next Order, three Statements by Sen. Kibwana had been dropped because when they were called out, the Senator was not in the Chamber. However, the Senator has approached me and explained why she was not in the Chamber when those Statements were called out. Indeed,...

Senator, indeed, that act made you to be out of order. I am going to proceed to caution you for the day. Any other opportunity you will have, when you will be out of order, you know the consequences. Kindly proceed, Sen. Kibwana.

Under what Standing Order?

Sen. Methu, the Senator of Kisii County is properly dressed. (Laughter) STATE OF HEALTH AND SAFETY IN SCHOOLS

Okay. Hon. Senators, I will allow comments on her Statements pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) . The first two Statements made under Standing Order No.52 are Statements of general topical concern and they do not, under our Standing Orders, attract comments. Senators on the dashboard, please restrict your comments...

Sen. Olekina, you may have the Floor.

No, it is not. The Statement touching on Mukumu Girls High School was made under Standing Order No.52 (1) . So, restrict yourself to dental matters. As you talk, you can couch your Statement to navigate---

What is your point of order, Sen. Ososti?

Sen. Olekina, the Chair is aware of what you are trying to do. Kindly restrict yourself to the third Statement by Sen. Kibwana. Let your comments be strictly on that Statement.

Sen. Olekina, you are out of order. Kindly confine yourself and conclude your comments on the third Statement.

Kindly conclude.

Proceed, Sen. Tabitha Keroche.

Thank you, Senator. The 15 minutes meant for comments on that Statement is long spent. Before we move to the next business, hon. Senators, allow me to make the following communications. (Interruption of debate on Statements) COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE CHAIR VISITING DELEGATION FROM THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY OF ZAMBIA Hon. Senators,...

Hon. Senators, the Senate Majority Leader and Sen. Maanzo, can you kindly take your seats. I need to make a further Communication. VISITING DELEGATION FROM BARICHO SECONDARY SCHOOL IN KIRINYAGA COUNTY Hon. Senators, in the Public Gallery this afternoon, we have 180 students, accompanied by two teachers from Baricho Secondary...

Thank you.

Hon. Senators, can we have some order. Sen. Munyi Mundigi, please put your hands down. Sen. Munyi Mundigi, as I make this directive, get hold of your Standing Orders and read Standing Order No. 98. There is a Statement by the Senator of Nairobi City County, Sen. Sifuna that had...

Thank you. Hon. Senators, if you look at the clock, the Statements Hour has been overshot by 10 minutes. Therefore, I am afraid I will not allow comments on those Statements. We await the report from the Committee. I call upon the Clerk to call the next Order. THE DIVISION...

Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted the Speaker) Serjeant-at-arms, we do not have the requisite quorum. Kindly ring the Quorum Bell for ten minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) (Several Senators walked into the Chamber) (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted the Speaker) Serjeant-at-arm, you may stop the Bell. I am...

Proceed, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale.

Proceed, Sen. Veronica Maina.

Proceed, Sen. Cheruiyot.

Proceed, Sen. Mumma.

Proceed, Sen. Munyi Mundigi.

Hon. Senators, the half an hour meant for interrogation and comments is long spent. Hon. Senators, pursuant to Standing Order No.238 (1) , the Petition should be committed to the relevant Standing Committee for its consideration. In this case, I direct that the Petition be committed to the Standing Committee...

Let us go to the next Order. NOTICE OF MOTION DEVELOPMENT OF A POLICY AND LAW FOR SOCIAL RISK MANAGEMENT IN INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS

Let us go to the next Order. STATEMENTS These are Statements pursuant to Standing Order No.56 (1) (b) . Basically, they are Statements by Chairpersons of Standing Committees. The first one is by the Chairperson of the Standing Committee on National Cohesion, Equal Opportunity and Regional Integration. ACTIVITIES OF THE...

Very well. Let us have the Chairperson of the Standing Committee on National Security, Defence and Foreign Relations. ACTIVITIES OF THE COMMITTEE ON NATIONAL SECURITY, DEFENCE AND FOREIGN RELATIONS

The Chairperson, Standing Committee on Trade, Industrialization and Tourism. As the Committee gets its footing together, we will move to the Chairperson, Standing Committee on Roads, Transportation and Housing. ACTIVITIES OF THE COMMITTEE ON ROADS, TRANSPORTATION AND HOUSING

Proceed, Chairperson Standing Committee on National Cohesion, Equal Opportunities and Regional Integration. ACTIVITIES OF THE COMMITTEE ON NATIONAL COHESION, EQUAL OPPORTUNITY AND REGIONAL INTEGRATION

Sen. Maanzo, proceed.

Sen. Cherarkey, the Floor is yours.

Chairpersons, I believe you have taken note of those concerns. Hon. Sen. Dullo, proceed.

Thank you, Senator. The Chair has taken note of the need to have the Implementation Committee, and I believe it is a matter to be discussed at the Senate Business Committee. We have taken note. Next Order! THE PREVENTION OF LIVESTOCK AND PRODUCE THEFT BILL (SENATE BILLS NO. 12 OF...

Senator, your time is up. You had ten minutes. Sen. Wamatinga, you may proceed.

Sen. Maanzo, you may proceed.

I am afraid your time is up. Sen. Olekina, kindly take your balance of six minutes.

Your time is up. We agreed 10 minutes per speaker. Let us stick to it. (Sen. Olekina spoke off record) Sen. Olekina, it is 10 minutes per speaker. Kindly abide. Sen. Cheptumo, proceed.

The Hon. Sen. (Prof.) Kamar, kindly proceed.

Proceed, Sen. Abass.

Hon. Senators, there being no Senators wishing to contribute, I will now call upon the Mover to reply.

Thank you, Senate Majority Leader. Indeed, the putting of the question in regard to that particular Motion is deferred. (Putting of the Question on the Bill deferred) Next Order. The Chairperson Standing Committee on Finance and Budget, kindly proceed. Second Reading THE EQUALIZATION FUND APPROPRIATION BILL (SENATE BILLS NO. 3...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, we have six minutes to go. I do not know whether that will be adequate. Do you want to second by way of Standing Order No. 108, so that you reserve your right to contribute later on to this Motion?

Then, what you need to do, under Standing Order No. 108, is just bow your head and leave it at that. Then, you will have reserved your right to contribute later on, on this particular Motion. (Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale stood in his place and bowed) Very well. (The Speaker consulted...

Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted the Speaker) Kindly, proceed to call the first Order now that the requisite quorum has been established. COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE CHAIR VISITING DELEGATION FROM NEW RIVERSTAR ACADEMY, NAIROBI CITY COUNTY Hon. Senators, I would like to acknowledge the presence, in the Public...

Hon. Senators, I have another Communication to make. NOMINATION OF MPS TO THE PROPOSED JOINT SELECT COMMITTEE ON BI-PARTISAN ENGAGEMENTS IN PARLIAMENT STATEMENTS Sen. Onyonka, these are Statements pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) .

Kindly proceed. CLAIMS OF ECONOMIC CRISIS IN THE COUNTRY

Proceed, Sen. Cherarkey.

Hon. Senators, kindly acquaint yourself with the Standing Orders. Once you stand on a point of order under Standing Order No.98, you are supposed to state the Standing Order that you feel has been violated by the Senator speaking. Having not indicated the Standing Order that Sen. Cherarkey has violated,...

Sen. Cherarkey, the Senator is simply calling you to substantiate what you have stated. Kindly, proceed.

Hon. Senators, let the Senator substantiate pursuant to what has been raised by Sen. Sifuna. Kindly proceed. As he does so, he will be heard in silence.

Sen. Cherarkey, just take your seat. What is your point of order, Sen. M. Kajwang’?

Hon. Senators, indeed--- (Sen. Olekina and Sen. Madzayo consulted loudly) Sen. Olekina and Sen. Madzayo, kindly consult in low tones. I gave a ruling on Standing Order No. 53(3), where a Senator stands to seek for a statement and Senators are allowed to make comments.What then constitute comments? My ruling...

Kindly, proceed to substantiate the price of unga at Kshs150.

The next Statement is by Sen. Cherarkey under Standing Order 53 (1) . CLOSURE AND RE-OPENING OF CHINA SQUARE

Sen. Chute, the Floor is yours. STATUS OF CARBON CREDIT TRADING IN KENYA

What is your point of order, Sen. Kathuri?

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, you are totally out of order on the aspect of referring to the person of the Chair and on the aspect referring to the Minority Leader as to whether he was indeed part and parcel of the beneficiaries of the COVID-19 funds. To that extent you are...

Just proceed to withdraw. Hon. Senators, the Chair has made a ruling and Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale must abide by the ruling.

What is your point of order, Sen. Oketch Gicheru?

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, it is a valid request that any time you allege a fact, you must be prepared to prove by way of substantiating that particular allegation. Indeed, you have stated in your contribution to this Statement that in Kakamega, COVID-19 money was used to buy two acres of...

We should now move to Statements pursuant to Statement Standing Order No.56. Before we proceed to allow the Chairperson of Standing Committees to make their Statements, I have a communication to make. COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR VISITING DELEGATION FROM PRECIOUS BLOOD SCHOOL, RIRUTA, NAIROBI CITY COUNTY Hon. Senators, in the...

Before we proceed to Statements, pursuant to Standing Orders No.56 (1) (b) , we had given Sen. Cherarkey a minute to catch his breath. You may now proceed to make that Statement. STATEMENTS CLOSURE AND REOPENING OF CHINA SQUARE MALL

Sen. Cherarkey, if you do not leave the Chair to do his work, then you will land yourself in trouble. It is up to the Chair to rule on the conduct of other Senators, not another Senator picking on other Senators. Please, proceed.

Proceed, Sen. Wambua.

Proceed, Sen. Orwoba.

Proceed, Sen. Onyonka.

Proceed, Sen. Tabitha Keroche.

Sen. Osotsi.

Sen. Osotsi, kindly state the relevance and proceed to conclude your statement.

We shall now move to the Statements pursuant to Standing Order 56 (1) (b) . These Statements are made by Chairpersons of Standing Committees. The Chairperson, Standing Committee on Information, Technology and Communication. ACTIVITIES OF THE COMMITTEE ON INFORMATION, TECHNOLOGY AND COMMUNICATION

The Chairperson, Standing Committee on Energy. ACTIVITIES OF THE COMMITTEE ON ENERGY

The Chairperson Standing Committee on Finance and Budget. ACTIVITIES OF THE COMMITTEE ON FINANCE AND BUDGET

Just allow the Senator to conclude, then I will give you an opportunity to share those comments with us. Sen. Tabitha Mutinda, proceed to conclude.

Sen. Madzayo, hoja yako ya nidhamu ni ipi? The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Madzayo) : Bw. Spika, kwa heshima na taadhima ya hili Bunge la Seneti, hata ndugu yangu Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale ambaye ninamheshimu sana, anaweza kutanguliza hili swala. Tukimwangalia ndugu yetu, Sen. Methu, ni kijana shupavu, mdogo, pia ni...

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. (Laughter)

The Hon. Senator for Kilifi stood on a point of order and therefore, no point of order can be attracted out of his point of order. What is left is for me to make a ruling since the attention of the Chair has been drawn to the dressing of the...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.56 (1) (b) of the Senate Standing Orders to make a Statement relating to the activities of the Standing Committee on Health during the First Session of the Thirteenth Parliament and the First Quarter of the Second Session. ACTIVITIES OF THE...

What is your point of order, Sen. Faki?

Sen. Faki, let me give you an opportunity to proceed but not to proceed as a point of order rather as your contribution or comment to that particular Statement because it does not stand as a point of order. Proceed to make your comment on it.

Proceed, Sen. Mandago.

Thank you. Proceed, Sen. Orwoba.

Sen. Thang’wa, what is your point of order? I can see you have pressed for intervention.

Thank you, Sen. Karungo. Rule No.5 of the Speakers Rules gives different options. If you meet those options, you are properly dressed before this House. One of the options is that you can come dressed in a coat, collar, tie, long trousers, socks and shoes. If you are dressed that...

what is your point of order, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale?

Under what Standing Order are you raising your point of order? Let us start from there, then you can proceed.

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale that is why I am asking you to quote the Standing Order because it is a requirement under Standing Order No. 98, that any Senator rising on a Point of Order, must state the point of order that is in violation.

Yes, proceed. Are you done?

Standing Order No.101 is very wide. Which of these sub-sections of No.101 are you referring to?

Please, do.

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, if I heard Sen. Orwoba – the HANSARD will bear me witness – she stated that the report contains certain expressions that may not necessarily be true. For example, it talks about having dealt with statements that it did not deal with. She went ahead to state...

Just proceed, Sen. Orwoba. We are done. Proceed to make your remarks.

Sen. Orwoba, you have made your point. The Chairperson of the Committee on ICT, two issues have been brought up by the Senator. One is that in your Report, you have indicated that you have dealt with her Statements and you are yet to, hence the misinformation. Secondly, the Committee...

Sen. Miraj, that is not the issue.

This is what Sen. Orwoba is saying; in your Statement that you have just read and tabled, you have indicated that you have dealt with her Statements.

Sen. Miraj, we are not going to reduce this to a question and answer session. This is my directive on this matter; kindly get hold of your Statements and sit down with Sen. Orwoba. If, indeed, in your Statement you indicated that you dealt with her Statement and you are...

What is your point of order Sen. Osotsi?

Very well, Sen. Osotsi. How I understood Sen. Orwoba is that, in your report as the Committee on Information, Technology and Communication, you had conclusively dealt with her Statement yet, according to her, that is not the positon. However, if the Report that you presented today is work in progress,...

We have concluded on the issue of Sen. Orwoba.

Just make comments on the Statement. Leave alone Sen. Orwoba’s issue.

Hon. Senators, we have spent the maximum time allowable under our Standing Orders on Statements. We shall therefore leave it at that. Clerk, kindly call the next order. THE DIVISION OF REVENUE BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO. 9 OF 2023) Hon. Senators, we now resume debate on this Bill. A...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, thank you for giving me this opportunity to speak to this Bill. This is the one Bill that I hope we can all have consensus on. I rise to oppose the Bill. The core mandate of the Senate includes the business of the House today. As the...

Proceed, Sen. Cherarkey.

What is your point of order, Sen. Oketch Gicheru?

I am rendering a ruling on your point of order. So, to that extent, I overrule your point of order and allow the Senator for Nandi to proceed to conclude his Statement.

Proceed, Sen. Cherarkey, I have made my ruling on this matter let us proceed.

What is your point of order?

Very well, Sen. Sifuna.

Proceed.

The Senator is on a point of order. You certainly cannot raise a point of order on a point of order.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I hope that in future, Sen. Sifuna will advise his Azimio la Umoja-One Kenya Coalition Party leaders on how governments are formed, and we will not be having demonstrations daily. (Laughter)

Sen. Cherarkey, to avoid these many points of order because we have an important Bill before us, let us avoid sideshows and jabs. If you are called upon to contribute, please go to the substance of the Bill before you.

Sen. Osotsi, what is your point of order?

Sen. Cherarkey, you must prove that this country does not have sufficient resources to take to the counties following the demonstrations. If you are unable to make that nexus, then you may have to withdraw that section of your comments.

Sen. (Dr.) Oburu, you have the Floor.

(Applause)

Sen. Oburu, you have been called upon to substantiate and in the event that you are unable, you proceed to withdraw and apologize to the National Police Service.

Sen. Orwoba, what is your point of order? I thought the good Senator is trying to substantiate.

Sen. Orwoba, I am afraid. Kindly have your sit.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, the Senator is misleading the House under Standing Order No.101. Sen. (Dr.) Oburu is trying to say that the policemen were stopping the people from getting out of Kibera. According to what I saw on my television---

Order, hon. Senators! It is not up to you to ask the Senator to read it. Sen. Orwoba, you stood on a point of order.

Kindly proceed to cite the Standing Order that you feel is being violated by Sen. (Dr.) Oburu.

Sen. Orwoba, just get your act together and then you can raise it.(Sen. Orwoba spoke off record)Proceed, Sen. (Dr.) Oburu. Take your seat, Sen. Orwoba.

On point of order, Madam Temporary Speaker. (Laughter) [The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) left the Chair] [The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Veronica Maina) in the Chair]

Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted the Speaker) Serjeant-At-Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for ten minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Clerk, do we have quorum now? Hon. Senators, kindly take your seats. It has now been established that we have the requisite quorum. Clerk, kindly proceed...

The Chairperson, Standing Committee on Information Communication and Technology (ICT) , you have a Paper to lay. You can proceed to take the Floor. ACTIVITIES OF THE COMMITTEE ON INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AND COMMUNICATION

I thought you had a Paper to lay according to the business.

So, you may now proceed to lay the Paper; not to make a Statement. REPORT ON THE COUNTY PRINTER BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.10 OF 2022)

Next Order. (Several Senators stood at the Bar) Hon. Senators, kindly take your seats. (Hon. Senators entered the Chamber) COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE CHAIR Hon. Senators, I need to make a Communication. (Loud consultations) VISITING SENATOR FROM THE PARLIAMENT OF THE KINGDOM OF ESWATINI Hon. Senators, I would like to acknowledge...

Sen. Cherargei and Sen. Tabitha Keroche, this is the second time you are out of order. The third time, you know exactly what will befall you. Kindly take note. VISITING DELEGATION FROM ACACIA ACADEMY IN KITENGELA, KAJIADO COUNTY Hon. Senators, I have another communication to make. In the Public Gallery,...

Let us move to Statements pursuant to Standing Order No. 53 (1) . Sen. Wambua, proceed. STATEMENTS STATUS OF KENYA REVENUE AUTHORITY COLLECTIONS OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS

Sen. Cherarkey, proceed.

Sen. Cherarkey, if the Chair is speaking, you yield. I will refer you to Standing Order No. 53 (3) - “Where a statement has been requested from a Committee pursuant to paragraph (Applause)

Sen. Wambua, it is the Chair that approved that Statement. No Statement gets to the Floor of the Senate without my approval. Before I approve a Statement, there are certain tenets and requirements that it must meet. Sen. Cherarkey, the Chair approved the Statement sought by Sen. Wambua. Therefore, you...

Sen. Cherarkey, as you make your comments, what do you want the Committee to do? That is what I want to hear. Do not make a different Statement all together. A Statement has been requested. In addition to what Sen. Wambua has requested, what do you want the Committee to...

Sen. Cherarkey, just have your seat. You do not have to impute improper motive on your colleagues as you are making your contributions. I guided you on how to make your comments. I know you have a certain angle you want the Committee to pursue when it retires to probe...

Hon. Senators, Sen. Cherarkey, instead of warning you or ruling you out of order, I decided to guide you. There is an angle you want the Committee to pursue. However, the way you are putting it across, it is not coming out in a manner that will be helpful to...

Sen. Cherarkey, kindly take your seat. Hon. Senators, if you look at your names as they appear on the record, they do not start with the names you were given by your fathers or by your church pastors. They start with a title, “honourable.” That title was not given to...

Next Statement is by Sen. Mbugua. LEGAL STRUCTURE AND OPERATIONS OF NFDK

Sen. Crystal Asige, please, proceed.

The next Statement by Sen. Onyonka has been deferred. CLAIMS OF FINANCIAL CRISIS IN THE COUNTRY

Next Statement by Sen. Cherarkey. ALLEGED MISMANAGEMENT AT THE SPORTS ARTS AND SOCIAL DEVELOPMENT FUND

Sen. Mungatana, you may have the Floor.

Hon. Senators, under that Order, we still have four Statements pursuant to Standing Order 56, Statements by Chairperson of Standing Committees. However, Pursuant to Standing Order 45 (2) , I will rearrange the sequence of our business today to straight away prosecute Order Nos. 8, 9 and 10. These are...

Hon. Senators, for the convenience of the Senate and pursuant to Standing Order No. 45 (2) , the Statements by the Chairpersons of Standing Committees that were to be made under Standing Order No. 56 (1) (b) are hereby deferred to Tuesday next week so that we can prosecute Order...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, is seconding the Motion as moved by the Senate Majority Leader. Now, if that is the position, then you cannot amend what the Senate Majority Leader has moved. You second, meaning you conquer with him 100 per cent. Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale: Mr. Speaker, Sir, you know my...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I am an old bull and you have guided me correctly. At no time, from the beginning up to the end of my statement, will you hear any statement at variance from the Motion as moved. Proceed to second.

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir!

What is your point of order, Sen. Sifuna?

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Kunyua, just have your seat. I will guide you when you are seated. While Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale was making his comments in seconding this Motion, he referred to a document, which is quite in order. In so far as that is concerned, he is quite in order. Sen. (Dr.)...

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir!

Sen. M. Kajwang’, I think Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale was making an analogy and the Senator he referred to did not take offense. In fact, in his rejoinder, he seemed pretty proud having been called a bull. (Laughter)

(Laughter) (Laughter)

Sen. Cherarkey, you cannot just walk in and engage other Senators on such a high tone. May the Senator who is on his feet be heard in silence, please.

Sen. Osotsi, a minute. What is your point of order, Sen. Cheruiyot?

What is your point of order, Sen. Wambua?

Thank you, Senate Majority Leader and Sen. Wambua. (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted the Speaker) (Sen. Osotsi stood in his place) Sen. Osotsi, have your seat for a minute. For guidance, what is before the House now is the Bill as received from the National Assembly. That is what we are supposed...

What is your point of order, Sen. (Dr.) Oburu?

What is your point of order, Sen. Cheruiyot?

Hon. Senators, the Bill is on the Floor of this House. We are debating the Bill as received from the National Assembly. Whether you are going to use the contents of the Report by the Committee to contribute towards this debate is up to you. What we are debating is...

Sen. Osotsi, we appreciate your contribution and comments. Sen. Kathuri, you may have the Floor.

On a point of information, Mr. Speaker, Sir!

Sen. Mungatana, MGH, do you wish to be informed by Sen. Wambua?

Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for five minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell again for further five minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Serjeant-at-Arms, just proceed to ring the Quorum Bell for further10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Ring the Quorum Bell...

Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Speaker) (Several Senators walked into the Chamber) Clerk, now that we have the quorum, kindly proceed to read the First Order. COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE CHAIR VISITING DELEGATION FROM ELGEYO-MARAKWET COUNTY ASSEMBLY Hon. Senators, I would like to acknowledge the presence,...

Senate Minority Leader, the Chair is Speaking. You know Mijikenda is not one of the languages that is Parliamentary. Kindly withdraw the word enyeko and proceed to welcome the guests. (Laughter) Hapa hatuna siasa zile za kulumbana, za juu ambazo watu hawaelewani kama ndugu. Hapa tunafanya ile bipartisan debate kisha...

Hon. Senator, you know as the Chair, I do not have power to allow you to use other languages other than English and Kiswahili. Kindly, confine yourself to those two languages as you make your welcoming remarks.

Sen. Kisang, proceed.

Proceed, Sen. Wambua.

Next Order. PAPERS LAID The Chairperson or Vice Chairperson, Standing Committee on Trade, Industrialisation and Tourism, please, proceed. REPORT ON THE COUNTY LICENSING UNIFORM PROCEDURES 2022 (SENATE BILLS NO.9 OF 2022)

The Chairperson or any Member of the Standing Committee on Agriculture, Livestock and Fisheries, proceed. REPORT ON THE AGRICULTURE AND LIVESTOCK EXTENSION SERVICE BILL 2022 (SENATE BILLS NO.12 OF 2022)

Next Order, Clerk. QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS Statements pursuant to Standing Order No.56 (1) (b) . Let us have the Chairperson of the Standing Committee on Information, Technology and Communication. (Sen. Chesang’ was not in the Chamber) If they are not ready, we can call the other Committees. We have three...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.56 (1) (b) to make a Statement on the activities of the Committee on Labour and Social Welfare for the period commencing 8th September, 2022 to 11th April, 2023. Mr. Speaker, Sir, during the period under review, the Committee...

Sen. Lemaltian, you cannot walk from one side to the other. There is a procedure to be followed if you need to move from one side to the other. You are out of order, kindly, abide by the rules. (Sen. Lemaletian walked back to her seat)

Hon. Senator, kindly conclude. You have gone beyond the allowable time, that is 10 minutes. So, you can proceed to lay the Report. Senators will read the part that you are yet to conclude on. As long as you have laid it, Senators will be happy to read.

Proceed, Chairperson Standing Committee on Lands, Environment and Natural Resources.

I want to comment on the Statement.

We will take comments on the three Statements.

Yes, what is your point of order, Senate Majority Leader?

Absolutely.

Sure, under Standing Order No.56, we have 20 minutes for comments and interventions on those Statements. So, we may proceed. Senate Majority Leader, you may take the Floor.

Sen. Faki, you have the Floor.

Sen Kathuri, you have the Floor.

Sen. Osotsi, you have the Floor.

Sen. Kinyua, please proceed.

Sen. Sifuna, please, proceed.

You cannot raise a point of order because the hon. Senator is already done contributing. We are going to have the last person to contribute. We only have two minutes because we were to end at 38. Sen. Wakili Sigei, you have one minute.

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, have a seat. You sit in the Senate Business Committee (SBC) . Is it? Are you a Member of the SBC?

The reason I am asking, is because I am going with your suggestion. Please, have a seat. The reason I did not want to pronounce myself on these matters is because I felt we can adequately handle those matters at the SBC level. I have taken note of the concerns...

The lack of rainfall also inhibits the ability of residents to acquire food and has led to eruptions of violence in this region. In many areas, the shortage of water in Kenya has been amplified by the Government's lack of investment in water, especially in the northern region.Mr. Speaker, Sir,...

Statement pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) , by the Sen. Kathuri. STATE OF PROGRESS IN EVALUATION OF TENDERS AND COMMENCEMENT OF DUALING WORKS OF MERU TOWN

The Message communicates a resolution by the County Assembly to petition Parliament for a declaration, inter alia, that: MESSAGE FROM ELGEYO-MARAKWET COUNTY ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION BY ELGEYO-MARAKWET COUNTY ASSEMBLY ON MEASURES TO CURB BANDITRY IN KERIO VALLEY Hon. Senators, I wish to report to the Senate that I have, pursuant to...

Sen. Mumma, you can have your seven minutes?

Proceed, Sen. Cheptumo.

[The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) left the Chair] [The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) in the Chair]

Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted the Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for five minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) (Several Senators walked into the Chamber) Clerk, now that we have the requisite quorum, kindly proceed to read the First Order. COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE CHAIR WELCOME...

Hon. Senators, I have another petition to present and, thereafter, we will make comments. I will invite comments on the two Petitions within the available 30 minutes meant for Petitions. DE-GAZETTEMENT OF LAND REFERENCE NO. 12493 IN LAIKIPIA COUNTY THAT, LR. No. 12493 has since been subdivided into many smaller...

Sen. Omogeni, proceed.

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, proceed.

Sen. (Dr.) Oburu, proceed.

Proceed, Sen. Mungatana.

Proceed, Sen. Faki.

Sen. Kathuri, you may proceed.

Proceed, Sen. Kinyua.

Sen. Lemaltian, you may proceed.

Hon. Senators, the half an hour meant for comments is long spent. Hon. Senators, pursuant to Standing Order No. 238 (1) , the Petition by Mr. Charles W. Waigwa is hereby committed to the Standing Committee on Lands, Environment and Natural Resources for its consideration. In terms of Standing Order...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale that does not amount to a point of order. However, administratively, the Clerk has taken note. Proceed, Sen. (Dr.) Oburu.

Next order, Clerk. PAPERS LAID Proceed, Senate Majority Leader.

Next order. Sen. Crystal Asige.

Sen. Kibwana.

Proceed, Sen. Crystal Asige. DESIGNATION OF A MONTHLY CAR FREE DAY AND COUNTY CAR FREE ZONES

Let us go to the next Order. QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe Ltumbesi, Senator for Samburu, is not in. However, we will start by taking the Statements from the Chairs of the Committees first before we go to the general Statements. Therefore, I am going to call the following...

Thank you, Sen. Cherarkey. Because of the time factor and if you look at the Order Paper, we have substantial business to transact today. Therefore, I will allow at most, two interventions per Statement made by a Chairperson of a Standing Committee, so that we cover as much business as...

The Chairperson, Standing Committee on Devolution and Intergovernmental Relations, you have the Floor. We will hear the Statements and thereafter proceed to the interventions. ACTIVITIES OF THE COMMITTEE ON DEVOLUTION AND INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS

Sen. Osotsi and Sen. Wambua, kindly adhere to the Standing Order No.118. Chairperson, please, proceed.

Hon. Senator, you are supposed to make your Statement for not more than 10 minutes. Pursuant to Standing Order No.51 (2) . You have already overshot the runway. Kindly conclude and table your Statement.

The Chairperson Standing Committee on Education, proceed. Clerk, Kindly, time the Senator for 10 minutes. Beyond that, let the microphone switch off automatically.

Thank you, Senators. Before I give Members time to make comments on the three Statements by the Chairpersons of those Standing Committees, allow me to make the following Communication. COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR VISITING DELEGATION FROM THE USA

Proceed, Sen. Wambua. (Sen. Wambua spoke off record) Your comments on the three reports that have been read out.

Thank you. We now move to Statements pursuant to Standing Order No.52 (1) . Sen. Crystal Asige, proceed. COMMEMORATION OF THE WORLD AUTISM AWARENESS DAY

Let us now go to Statements pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) . ALLEGED MISMANAGEMENT AT THE SPORTS, ARTS AND SOCIAL DEVELOPMENT FUND Sen. Cherarkey is not in the House. Therefore, the Statement is dropped. (Statement dropped) The Senator for Kisumu, Sen. Prof. Tom Ojienda, SC, is also not in...

Clerk, do we have quorum? Serjeant-At-Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for five minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) I am informed we do have the requisite quorum now, so stop ringing the Quorum Bell. First Order. COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE CHAIR VISITING DELEGATION FROM TURKANA COUNTY ASSEMBLY I request each...

Sen. (Dr.) Oburu, kindly have your seat. AMENDMENTS TO THE STANDING ORDERS FOR CSS TO APPEAR BEFORE THE SENATE The approval of the 5th Report of the Procedure and Rules Committee on the amendments to the Senate Standing Orders paves the way for Cabinet Secretaries (CSs) to appear before the...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, just have your seat. I will come back to you. I have stated on numerous occasions, that there is a place for points of order in these Standing Orders. Kindly look at Standing Order No.98 of our Standing Orders. It is the only Standing Order that talks...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, one; that is not a point of order. Secondly, I think when this matter was debated and amendments passed on the Floor of the House, you were not here. I kindly implore upon you to take time and read the amendments. The answers to all your concerns...

Next Order, Clerk. Senate Majority Leader, do you have Papers to lay? PAPER LAID REPORT OF THE STATUTORY INSTRUMENTS (EXEMPTION FROM EXPIRY) REGULATIONS, 2022

Next order. The Senate Majority Leader, kindly proceed. NOTICES OF MOTIONS AMENDMENT OF THE SENATE CALENDAR FOR THE SECOND SESSION

Sen. Mumma. You were supposed to give a Notice of Motion. ACCELERATING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT GOALS

Next Order, Clerk.

What is your point of order, Sen. Oketch Gicheru? NOTICE OF MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT UNDER STANDING ORDER NO.37 THE DETERIORATING SECURITY SITUATION IN THE COUNTRY

Next Order. STATEMENTS WATER CRISIS IN NORTHERN PARTS OF KENYA Sen. Lemaltian is out on Parliamentary duties. Unless someone has been nominated to act on her behalf, otherwise that Statement stands deferred. (Statement deferred) We move to the statement by Sen. Osotsi. DISBURSEMENT OF FUNDS TO COUNTY GOVERNMENTS

Hon. Senators, the Statements hour started at 3.06

Proceed, Sen. Abass.

Proceed, Sen. Sifuna:

Proceed, Sen. Wafula.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I stand to support this Statement by Sen. Osotsi. The Senate exists to support county governments. County public servants are human beings. They are fathers, mothers and people with aspirations like anyone of us. Mr. Speaker, Sir, if our salaries came late even by a...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I also rise to add my voice. It is unfortunate for employees of the county to go three months without salaries. This is because there are those who have loans in the bank and they accrue interest and penalties. There are those who feel sick...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. As I rise to support this Statement, I just want to correct that this Senate did not pass the disbursement schedule in January.

We will move to the next Statement. Sen. Sifuna, you have the Floor. MISALLOCATION OF PUBLIC COMMUNITY LAND IN BURUBURU PHASE FIVE

Sen. Sifuna, you had another Statement. Kindly proceed. ILLEGAL ALLOCATION OF PUBLIC UTILITY PLOTS AND OPEN SPACES IN WOODLEY ESTATE

Thank you Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise to support, the Statement by Sen. Sifuna, the Senator of Nairobi City County.

We shall move to the next Statement. Is Sen. Murgor not here? The Statement is deferred. GRABBING OF LAND BELONGING TO KANYARKWAT GROUP RANCH Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise to request for a Statement on the status of---

Then start by placing yourself properly on record. STATE OF MACADAMIA NUT PRODUCTION AND MARKETING IN KENYA

Sen. Maanzo, please proceed.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I also rise to support the Statement. When it comes to macadamia specifically, there is need for the Ministry in charge to see how best they can facilitate farmers to strengthen and enhance production and marketing of that farm produce. This is an agricultural country because our...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, a couple of days ago, a small video clip was being translated to me, where the distinguished Senator for Kirinyaga was crying because of the way his farmers have been terrorised by brokers.

Asante Bw. Spika kwa kunipa nafasi hii. Kwanza, ningependa unipe mwelekeo kwa sababu aliyeleta Taarifa hii ni Naibu wangu katika Kamati ya Agriculture, Livestock and Fisheries. Bw. Spika, nieleze iwapo mtu anafaa kujiuliza swali. Swali lililoulizwa na Sen. Munyi Mundigi kama Naibu Mwenyekiti, litakuja kwake ama kwetu pia. Pili, jambo...

Thank you, Sen. (Dr.) Murango. Indeed, it is in order for Sen. Munyi Mundigi to seek a Statement from that Committee, although he is a Member. There is a difference between Mundigi, the Senator for Embu County and the Standing Committee on Agriculture, Livestock and Fisheries. We shall move to...

Hon. Senators, before I give Senators opportunity to comment on that request for Statements, allow me to make a Communication. COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE CHAIR VISITING DELEGATION FROM LENANA SCHOOL, NAIROBI CITY COUNTY (Applause) VISITING DELEGATION FROM KIAMUGUMO GIRLS HIGH SCHOOL, KIRINYAGA COUNTY In the public gallery again, we have 31...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, did you hear the Senator for Homa Bay refer to the Cabinet Secretary (CS) using derogatory language? He used unparliamentarily language to the extent that he suggested that there are times when hon. (Prof.) Kindiki is lucid. Is that Parliamentary? Even if you are saying hi, you...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I encourage the boys from “Changes”, to let ‘Changes’ change them from boys to men and real men at that. Let ‘Changes’ change you from villager to nationalist. If you look at the political landscape, there is quite a number of “Changerians” as well as “Busherians”. To...

Asante Bw. Spika kwa kunipa nafasi kuwakaribisha wanafunzi wa kutoka Kimugumo Girls. Shule hii iko Gichugu. Hiyo shule iko mahali ambapo Gavana wa Kirinyaga Mheshimiwa Ann Waiguru ametoka. Ningesema ya kwamba mnapotia bidii na fora katika masomo yenu, mko na watu walioko mbele yenu wanawowanyesha kuwa masomo ni muhimu. Mkiweka...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I wanted to make a contribution to the Statement by Sen. (Dr) Murango that is directed at the Standing Committee on Tourism,

Thank you Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise to support the Statement by Sen. (Dr) Murango of Kirinyaga County who is seeking information from the Standing Committee on Labour and Social Welfare. I need to add my voice to that. It is true that we are exporting labour, especially to the...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I stand to support Sen. (Dr.) Murango’s Statement to the Committee on Trade, Industrialization and Tourism which has come in other versions in previous Senates. It is my view that this country does not value farmers. The farmer who elects to plant avocado, will find...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, thank you for the opportunity. I rise to support the Statement sought by Sen. (Dr.) Murango, from the Standing Committee on Labour and Social Welfare. I note that labour export is a strategy that has been utilized by many developing countries, to tackle the issue of unemployment...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise to support the Statement by the Senator of Kirinyaga, Sen. (Dr.) Murango, on the issue that is supposed to be tabled at the Committee on Labour and Social Welfare. One, the issue of job opportunities in this country is very important. We have...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I add my voice to the issue of labour, as sought by Sen. (Dr.) Murango.

Before I call upon the Senate Majority Leader to make a Statement, allow me to make this Communication. COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR VISITING DELEGATION FROM LORNA LABOSO MEMORIAL GIRLS SECONDARY SCHOOL, BOMET COUNTY

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for giving me the opportunity to make my comments. As we celebrate 10 years of existence as a Senate. I listened very carefully to what my Senate Majority Leader was speaking. I thank him

Sen. Oketch Gicheru, can you focus unless you are not interested in contributing. (Applause)

How can I protect you from laughter?

How can I protect you from laughter?

Proceed, Senator. You are protected.

(Loud consultations)

(Loud consultations) (Loud consultations) Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, just have your seat. I am informed that when you are making those derogatory remarks – indeed, they are – you are off the microphone and had not been given the Floor. Still, it amounts to a disorderly conduct. (Loud consultations)

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale! (Loud consultations) (Laughter) ADJOURNMENT Hon. Senators, it is now 6.30 p.m., time to adjourn the House. Therefore, the Senate stands adjourned until Wednesday, 29th March, 2023 at