Amason Jeffah Kingi

Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at the-Table consulted the Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) (Several Senators walked into the Chamber) Serjeant-at-Arms, I am informed that we do have quorum now. So, you may stop ringing the Bell. Clerk, please...

Proceed, Chairperson Standing Committee on Agriculture, Livestock and Fisheries. REPORT ON THE COTTON INDUSTRY DEVELOPMENT BILL (SENATE BILLS NO. 5 OF 2023)

Next Order, Clerk. QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS STATEMENTS SHUTDOWN OF COUNTY ASSEMBLIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY Statements pursuant to Standing Order No. 53 (1) . Proceed Sen. Kathuri. (Sen. Kathuri was not in the Chamber) That statement is dropped. (Statement dropped) Proceed, Sen. (Prof.) Tom Odhiambo Ojienda. MEASURES TAKEN TOWARDS ATTAINMENT OF...

No. I am afraid we are not going to invite comments on this Statement, owing to the business ahead. Next Statement is by Sen. Thang’wa. PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS, STADIA, ROADS AND PARKS BEARING NAMES OF FORMER PRESIDENTS AND LEADERS SAFEGUARDING THE PROPERTY OF KAGAARI SOUTH COFFEE FARMERS’ CO-OPERATIVE SOCIETY

Proceed, Sen. Cherargei.

I will allow four comments. Two from the Government side and two from the Opposition side. Proceed, Sen. Onyonka.

Proceed, Sen. Okenyuri.

Proceed, Sen. Cheruiyot.

Hon. Senators, before the Clerk calls the next order, I have a communication to make. COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR VISITING DELEGATION FROM KIAMUGUMO GIRLS HIGH SCHOOL, KIRINYAGA COUNTY

Next order Clerk. THE EMPLOYMENT (AMENDMENT) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO. 11 OF 2022) THE COUNTY ALLOCATION OF REVENUE BILL (SENATE BILLS NO. 16 OF 2023) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly proceed to ring the Division Bell for one minute (The Division Bell was rung) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly close the door and draw the Bar....

(Technical hitch)What is your point of order, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale? I will allow you to make an intervention not necessarily a point of order because at this juncture, you may not rise on a point of order.

Hon. Senators, we proceed to vote manually. In this case, the Clerk will proceed to read out the names. Before we proceed, we should have two Tellers; one for the ‘Noes’ and one for the ‘Ayes’. Can we have two Senators or should I choose? Sen. Mumma will be the...

Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted the Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) (Several Senators walked into the Chamber) Serjeant-at-Arms, you may stop ringing the Bell. I am informed that we do have quorum now. Clerk, please, proceed to...

Next Order, Clerk. QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS STATEMENTS Statement pursuant to Standing Order No. 53 (1) . Hon. Sen. Crystal Asige, please proceed. ENFORCEMENT OF 5 PER CENT EMPLOYMENT QUOTA FOR PWDS

Proceed to the next Statement by Sen. Mbugua. STATUS OF FUNDING OF SPECIAL NEEDS SCHOOLS

Thank you, Sen. Cherarkey. I am afraid I may not be able to allow comments on these statements. When we sat at the Senate Business Committee (SBC) , having looked at the Order Papers for the last three or four months, we realized that we were not making any progress...

The Chairperson of the Committee on Devolution and Intergovernmental Relations, this is a very weighty issue. I believe you have heard the sentiments from your colleagues. I received that memorandum, but you are the door to these assemblies as far as the Senate is concerned. By next week, you should...

Thank you. Let us have the Statement by Sen. Sifuna. RENT ANOMALIES IN WOODLEY AND MARIAKANI ESTATES IN NAIROBI Sen. Sifuna is not in the Chamber. The statement is, therefore, dropped. (Statement dropped) The next Statement is by Sen. Hamida Kibwana. (Sen. Mumma spoke off the record) Proceed. LIFTING OF...

Sen. Miraj, you may have the Floor. MASLAHI NA USTAWI WA MABAHARIA NCHINI KENYA

Next Order. THE EMPLOYMENT (AMENDMENT) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO. 11 OF 2022)

Thank you. Division on that Bill is deferred until otherwise advised. (Putting of the question on the Bill deferred) At this juncture I will move to re-arrange the sequence of the Order Paper, pursuant to Standing Order No. 45 (2) . If you go through your Order Paper, you see...

Next Order. THE COUNTY ALLOCATION OF REVENUE BILL (SENATE BILLS NO. 16 OF 2023)

Sen. Faki.

Hon. Senators, before I propose the Question, I have a Communication to make. (Interruption of debate on the Bill) COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR VISITING DELEGATION FROM SEKENANI PRIMARY SCHOOL, NAROK COUNTY (Applause) (Laughter)

Sen. Olekina, you have under one minute to make your welcoming remarks.

Proceed, Sen. Wambua.

Sen. Kisang’, please proceed.

Sen. Faki, please proceed.

Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly proceed to ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Serjeant-at-Arms, I am informed we have the quorum now. So, you may stop ringing the Quorum Bell. Clerk, read the First Order. COMMUNICATIONS...

Sen. Sifuna.

Sen. Tabitha Mutinda.

Proceed, Sen. Oburu.

Sen. Wamatinga, you may proceed

Sen. (Prof.) Kamar, please, proceed.

Sen. Kinyua, you have the Floor. Hon. Senators, let us keep it two minutes or under.

Sen. Kibwana, you have the Floor

Sen. Munyi Mundigi, you may proceed.

Proceed, Sen. Faki.

Sen. Montet Betty, you may have the Floor.

Sen. Okenyuri, you may have the Floor.

Sen. Beth Syengo, you may have the Floor.

Sen. Kisang, you may have the Floor.

Sen. Onyonka, you may have the Floor.

Sen. Veronica Maina, you may have the Floor.

Sen. Abdul Haji, you may have the Floor.

Before I call the Senate Majority Leader to lay the Papers, allow me to make this Communication. This afternoon, I would like to acknowledge the presence of visiting teachers and students from Koriema Secondary School, Baringo County in the public gallery. The group comprises five teachers and 57 students who...

Next Order, Clerk. QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS STATEMENTS Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I confirm what Sen. Cheruiyot is saying about the meat from Koriema. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.52 (1) to make a Statement on an issue of general topic of concern and national importance,...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Land, Environment and Natural Resources on the regulation of sand harvesting in Kitui County. In the Statement, the Committee should- REGULATION OF SAND HARVESTING IN KITUI COUNTY

Sen. Cherarkey, kindly consult in low tone so that we can hear the Senator.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have three Statements to make. I will start with the first one on challenges in passport issuance and claims of bribery. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on National Security, Defence and Foreign...

The next Statement is by Sen. Beth Syengo. (Sen. Wambua stood in his place) Sen. Wambua, are you holding brief for Sen. Beth Syengo?

Then read her Statement and proceed to read yours.

Sen. Maanzo and Sen. M. Kajwang’, you are out of order. I am giving you the first caution.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Agriculture, Livestock and Fisheries; regarding the non-payment of dairy farmers’ dues by the New Kenya Co-operatives Creameries Ltd. (New-KCC) . In the Statement, the Committee should- NON-PAYMENT OF DAIRY FARMERS’...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.56 (1) (a) to make a Statement relating to a matter for which the Committee is responsible. I rise as the Chairperson of the Committee on Lands, Environment and Natural Resources to make my remarks on the World Environment...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg your indulgence to allow me a minute or two to support what the substantive Chairperson of the Committee that deals with climate change matters. It is with regards to the Statement on World Environment Day, 2023. As you know, you have granted me the opportunity...

What is your point of information? Sen. M. Kajwang’ would you wish to be informed?

Sen. M. Kajwang’, kindly proceed to conclude your contribution.

I had skipped a Statement by Senator for Murang’a. Sen. Joe Nyutu, proceed to request your Statement. SAFETY AND EVACUATION OF KENYANS STRANDED IN SUDAN

Hon. Senators, before I call upon the Clerk to call the next Order, allow me to make this Communication. I would like to acknowledge the presence in the Public Gallery this afternoon of visiting teachers and students from Ngurweini Secondary School, Murang’a County. The group comprises one teacher and 154...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I welcome the students as well to the House. However, I feel as though the direction in which this advice to young female students is not going to the right place. Sen. Joe Nyutu says specifically to the girls that they should focus implying that it is...

Valid concerns. Next order, Mr. Clerk. (Clerk at the Table consulted with the Speaker) Hon. Senators, pursuant to Standing Order No.45 (2) at this juncture, allow me to rearrange the sequence of today’s business in the Order Paper to start with Order Nos.9, 10, 11 and then we resume as...

Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at the-Table consulted the Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) (Several Senators walked into the Chamber) Serjeant-at-Arms, I am informed that we do have quorum now. So, you may stop the Bell. Clerk, may call...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, you understand the rules of this House. We do not allow people to speak in tongues. Therefore, kindly proceed to withdraw the last part and speak in English, so that not just the visitors, but also your colleagues can be able to understand.

Clerk, proceed with the next Order. A UNLAWFUL SALARY DEDUCTIONS BY KEWOTA Hon. Senators, due to the packed business of the day, I am afraid I will not allow comments on this Petition, pursuant to Standing Order No.237. Instead, I will straightaway proceed to commit the Petition to the relevant...

Sen. Wambua, I am afraid I may not be in a position to allow comments on this. If you look at the Order Paper, you will agree with me that one of your Bills has been with us since the day I was sworn in. The reason is that we...

Let us go to the next Order. PAPERS LAID REPORTS ON FINANCIAL STATEMENTS OF VARIOUS ENTITIES

Next Order. QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS STATEMENTS These are Statements pursuant to Standing Order No.53. When the Petition was read, I gave directions. Again, once you have read out your Statement, it will be committed to the relevant Committee. Therefore, we are not going to have any comments. However, I will...

Sen. Cherarkey, proceed to request your Statement. REDUCTION OF SALARIES AND ALLOWANCES PAYABLE TO MCAS IN FY 2022/2023

Proceed, Sen. Wambua.

Proceed, Sen. Cheruiyot.

Sen. Madzayo, you may have the Floor. The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Madzayo) : Asante Bw. Spika. Kwanza,(Applause) Asante Bw. Spika. Kwanza, (Applause) Sen. Kathuri, you may have the Floor. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for giving me this opportunity to also weigh into this matter. This body called SRC...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I had recommended that this matter be handled by a Committee of the Whole House. (Sen. Cheruiyot spoke off record) This matter should be handled by a Committee of the Whole, which I will chair that day so that we can hammer these people properly. The Members...

I am teaching the law. Please listen to me. The Elections Act ought to be put in effect. I am the advocate who went to court to stop degree qualifications. I will also remind you that I did that then and I got orders to allow MCAs who do not...

Sen. Ali Roba, please, proceed. While Sen. Ali Roba is making his comments, kindly, may the two Chief Whips approach the Chair? (Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale and Sen. Olekina approached the Chair) Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise to support this Statement by Sen. Cherarkey. All of us in this House come...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Allow me this afternoon to be the devil’s advocate. They say that the only vice that cannot be forgiven is hypocrisy. Even the repentance of a hypocrite is itself hypocrisy. It is very easy for you to point fingers at other people but whenever you...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I would not have wanted to disrupt my big brother, Sen. Sifuna, but it is fair I quote Standing Order No. 105- Responsibility for Statement of Fact - “A Senator shall be responsible for the accuracy of any facts that the Senator alleges to be...

Then you need permission from the Senator. Sen. Sifuna, would you wish to be informed? Mr. Speaker, Sir, unfortunately, he is the Chair of the County Public Accounts Committee (CPAC) . Since he is my Chair, I have to say yes. I do not have any option.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, we understand the jitteriness of our colleagues when we discuss this matter because even their own MCAs ask them these questions when they go home. As I conclude, in fact, this question of the autonomy of budgets of the assemblies is something that we, as a Senate,...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for giving me this opportunity to support the Statement by Sen. Cherarkey concerning our colleagues on the ground none other than MCAs. The Salaries and Remuneration Commission (SRC) Chair allocated themselves a car grant worth Kshs10 million whereas MCAs allocation is Kshs2 million but it...

Thank you, Hon. Senators. We shall rest that matter there. Pursuant to Standing Order No.45 (2) I will proceed to rearrange the sequence of today’s Order Paper. I know we have 10 more Statements to request. However, I will rearrange the Order Paper as follows. We will proceed to Order...

Clerk, do we have a quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted the Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) (Several Senators walked into the Chamber) Serjeant-at-Arms, I am informed we now have the quorum. Mr. Clerk, kindly proceed to call the first Order. QUESTIONS AND...

The Cabinet Secretary for Education, kindly proceed to respond. The Cabinet Secretary for Education (Hon. Machogu) : Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. The Question is very clear. I beg to reply. can be managed at the school level. They can identify the cases in good time so that we can...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, those are two questions. Cabinet Secretary, kindly proceed to answer the two questions. One is to whether you will take action for the criminal negligence of the principal and the second is on the syndicate the principal was involved in the supply of goods to the school....

Proceed, Hon. Cabinet Secretary. The Cabinet Secretary for Education (Hon. Machogu) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, my good friend knows that I was in Meru County. We sorted out the problem in Meru University. I am happy that the university is now doing well. I also went to Meru National Polytechnic...

Sen. Madzayo, proceed. The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Madzayo) :

Hon. Senator, you are out of order. Kindly take your seat. (

Proceed, Sen. Chute. Asante sana, Bw. Spika. Ninashukuru Waziri kwa kuongea kuhusu mambo ya shule. Vifo wanafunzi wane na mwalimu vilishangaza na kushutua sana. Bw. Spika, jana nilikuwa Santuri Primary School, Loiyangalani, Laisamis Constituency. Niliingia staffroom nakupata chakula kinapikwa. Grains zimewekwa kwa staffroom huku ndege wanaingia, wakikula na kutoka. Niliuliza...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. My question is similar to what Sen. Chute has asked. However, I will put a slight amendment and say that one life is too many already. When you lose a school going child, even if it is just one, it should gather the collective rage...

Proceed, hon. Cabinet Secretary. The Cabinet Secretary for Education (Hon. Machogu) : Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Enforcement is one of the areas that we must admit that we have had a problem. The hon. Member also said about a director somewhere. Yes, you can have a very good manual,...

The Cabinet Secretary, please respond. The Cabinet Secretary for Mining, Blue Economy and Maritime Affairs (Hon. Mvurya) : Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Sir, and Hon. Members of the Senate. Bandari Maritime Academy (BMA) is a maritime training institution, which is designed to train and develop skills to provide...

Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at the-Table consulted the Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) (Several Senators entered into the Chamber) Serjeant-at-Arms, I am informed that we do have quorum now, so, kindly stop the Bell. Clerk, you may proceed...

Clerk, proceed to the next Order. MANAGEMENT AND USE OF KUTRRH BY KENYATTA UNIVERSITY MEDICAL STUDENTS The Petitioners therefore pray the Senate as follows- The Petitioners therefore pray the Senate as follows-

Proceed, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale.

Proceed,

Proceed, Sen. Ali Roba.

Proceed, Sen. Sifuna.

Proceed, Sen. Cheruiyot.

Proceed, Sen. Mumma

Proceed, Sen. Mandago.

(Laughter)

Hon. Senators, the 30 minutes period meant for interventions is well spent. Therefore, pursuant to Standing Order No.238 (1) , the Petition is hereby committed to the Standing Committee on Health for its consideration. In terms of Standing Order No. 238 (2) , the Committee is required in not more...

The second Petition is by Sen. Mariam Omar. ILLEGAL DEMOLITION OF HOUSES BY KENYA POWER IN CHOKAA

Thank you, very much Mr. Speaker, Sir, for also granting me an opportunity to present the Petition that I have been authorized by a resident and citizen of this country to present on his behalf pursuant to Standing Order No.232 of this Senate. The Petitioner respectfully states that the Kenya...

Hon. Senators, pursuant to Standing Orders No.237, I shall now allow comments, observations or clarifications on the two Petitions for not more than 30 minutes. Proceed, Sen. Cherarkey.

Proceed, Sen. Beth Syengo.

Sen. Beth Syengo, ni kulipwa ridhaa sio rifaa. Proceed, Sen. Korir.

Sen. Madzayo, you have the Floor. (Sen. Olekina walked to the Dispatch Box) I thought I called out Sen. Madzayo. If Senator Madzayo wishes to donate his time, well and good. The Senate Minority Leader (

nyumbani, yani makazi yao. Wanabaki katika njia panda bila kujua waende mbele au nyuma.Kitendo ambacho kampuni ya KPC ilifanya kinafaa kukemewa. Kuna watoto wa shule, kina mama, wagonjwa na watu wa jamii mbalimbali ambao tunaishi nao. Hao ndio hupata tabu zaidi.Ni jambo la kusikitisha kutekeleza kitendo hicho ilhali kulikuwa na...

Sen. Madzayo, kindly yield.

Just have your seat, Sen. Madzayo. (Sen. Madzayo sat at his place) Sen. Kinyua, what is your point of order?

You are aware that presently in the European Parliament, there is a big fight between the Irish data regulator and Meta, the parent company that owns Facebook. They have been fined over a billion dollars just for breach of data. It was for transferring data from European residents back to...

Thank you. Proceed, Sen. Olekina.

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Mr. Speaker, I rise by your Speakers’ Rules, Rule No.5 on Dressing of the Senator. These are unrelated. If you see the trousers that Sen. Orwoba is wearing, you know we keep evolving in terms of---

What is your point of order, Sen. Cherarkey? We need to conclude on this matter.

What is your point of order, Sen. Cherarkey?

Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for further 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly stop ringing the Quorum Bell. I am informed we do have quorum. Clerk, proceed to call the first Order. COMMUNATION FROM THE...

I will allow Sen. Orwoba just one minute to make brief welcoming remarks.

Clerk, next Order. PAPERS LAID REPORTS ON FINANCIAL STATEMENTS OF VARIOUS ENTITIES

Clerk, next Order. Proceed, Majority Leader. NOTICE OF MOTION APPROVAL OF SITTINGS OF THE SENATE TO BE HELD IN TURKANA COUNTY

Proceed, Sen. Wambua.

Proceed, Sen. Abass.

Proceed, Sen. Kavindu Muthama.

Proceed, Sen. Mbugua.

Sen. Madzayo, you may have the Floor.

Sen. Kisang, you may have the Floor.

Sen. Mumma, you may have the Floor.

Next Order. Hon.Senators, I shall proceed to re-arrange the sequence of today’s Order Paper pursuant to Standing Order No. 45 (2) . We will move to prosecute Order No.12 in today’s Order Paper. Thereafter, I will guide you accordingly. Clerk, kindly proceed to call Order No.12. Senate Majority Leader, proceed....

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, you are not in the village. This is the Plenary. You are on the Floor of the most honourable place you can imagine. Those introductions are supposed to be done when you are introducing her to your clan. (Laughter)

Hon. Members, the Floor is now open. Whoever is willing to make his contribution kindly key in so that I can pick your name from my dashboard. I am seeing Members who are not in the House yet their names are appearing here. I thought we discussed this. Sen. Madzayo,...

Vilevile, katika nchi yetu hii ya Kenya, Kaunti ya Turkana, ni mahali ambapo kampuni ya Tullow Oil Company imeweza kuona ya kwamba kunayo mafuta ya maana sana katika ulimwengu. Wengine tutakuwa hatuko huko. Ninaona katika hii Seneti, watakaobaki ni akina--- ndugu yangu mdogo. Pengine wakati huo watakuwa wamefika miaka ya...

Proceed, Sen. Mandago.

Proceed, Sen. (Dr.) Oburu.

What is your point of order?

Proceed, Sen. (Dr.) Oburu to mention this party leader who will accompany you.

Sen. Okenyuri, proceed.

Sen. Dullo, you have the Floor.

Proceed, Sen. Wafula

Proceed, Sen. Lemaltian

Mr. Speaker, Sir, we know that there has been a lot of conflict between Samburu and Turkana counties. Nonetheless, that will not make me fail to recognize that Turkana County, being my neighbour county, is one of the most outstanding tourist destinations.Most importantly, there have been about three discoveries of...

Proceed, Sen. Shakila Abdalla.

Proceed, Sen. Wakili Sigei.

Proceed, Sen. Faki.

Sen. Kisang, you may have the Floor.

I was saying that the other Question is by the Senator for Turkana County, Sen. Lomenen. I understand the Cabinet Secretary is ready to appear before the Senate to answer Question No.17. Therefore, I will ask the Secretariat to present him to this House because we are ready for him....

Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at the-Table consulted the Speaker) Serjeant-at-arms, kindly ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) I am informed that we now have the prerequisite Quorum. Hon. Senators, kindly take your seats so that we proceed with the business of the...

Proceed, Sen. Ledama Olekina.

Is Sen. Thang’wa here? He had a Petition to present. That Petition is deferred. ALLEGED FORGERY, PERJURY AND ILLEGAL LAND ALIENATION OF L.R 12825 PAYMENT OF SALARY ARREARS OWED TO P1 TEACHERS Colleges to secondary schools (S1), locking other A-Levels primary school teachers P1, who had not attended the course.This...

Sen. Okenyuri, you may proceed.

Sen. Boy.

Sen. Osotsi, you may proceed.

Proceed, Sen. Abass.

Sen. Joe Nyutu, proceed.

Hon. Senators, the time allocated for intervention to this Petition is well spent. Therefore, pursuant to Standing Order No.238 (1) , the Petition should be committed to the relevant Standing Committee for its consideration. In this case, I direct that the Petition be committed to the Standing Committee on Education....

Hon. Senators, pursuant to Standing Order No. 237, I shall now allow comments, observations or clarifications in relation to the Petition, for not more than 30 minutes. Sen. Cherarkey, please, proceed.

Sen. Kinyua, please, proceed.

Hon. Senators, pursuant to Standing Order No. 238 PAPERS LAID REPORTS ON FINANCIAL STATEMENTS OF VARIOUS ENTITIES Senate Majority Leader, please, proceed.

Proceed, Sen. Chimera.

Sen. Faki, you may proceed.

Sen. Ogola, you have the Floor.

Sen. Githuku, you may proceed.

Sen. Thangw’a, you may proceed.

Proceed, Sen. Kibwana. WITHDRAWAL OF VAT OBLIGATIONS ON PETROLEUM PRODUCTS

Proceed, Sen. Cherarkey.

Sen. Cherarkey, are you misleading?

Sen. Cherarkey, just have your seat. (Sen. Oketch Gicheru stood up in his place) Sen. Oketch Gicheru, have your seat please. Just take your seat. You have made your point under Standing Order No.115, which is not applicable under this instance. Therefore, I proceed to overrule. (Applause)

Sen. Omogeni, do you wish to be informed?

Clerk, before we move to the next Order, we had deferred Order No.6. We will take that before we proceed to Order No.8. Kindly call Order No.6. NOTICE OF MOTION REGULATION OF ELECTRONIC CIGARETTES IN KENYA

Clerk, call Order No.8. I know that the Committee had requested for a referral. However, just for the purpose of the record, I thought we would call it, defer and then proceed. THE COUNTY ALLOCATION OF REVENUE BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.16 OF 2023) COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE THE EQUALIZATION FUND...

Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at the-Table consulted the Speaker) Clerk, please, proceed to call the first Order. COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE CHAIR VISITING DELEGATION FROM THE INSTITUTE OF ECONOMIC AFFAIRS, KENYA Hon. Senators, I would like to acknowledge the presence in the Speaker’s Gallery this afternoon of visiting officials...

Sen. Tabitha Mutinda, I give you one minute.

Clerk, proceed to the next Order. REFURBISHMENT AND EXPANSION OF KAJIADO MUNICIPALITY MARKET

Senators, kindly, resume your seats. (Sen. Cherarkey and Sen. Kavindu took their seats) Hon. Senators, pursuant to Standing Order 237, I shall now allow comments, observations or clarifications in relation to the Petition for not more than 30 minutes. The Floor is now open. Proceed, Sen. Beatrice.

Proceed, Sen. Cherarkey.

Sen. Cherarkey, would you wish to be informed?

Point of information.

Sen. Cherarkey, please, proceed.

Sen. Orwoba, proceed.

Sen. Ali Roba, you stand cautioned for the day. Proceed, Sen. Orwoba.

Sen. Wambua, you have the Floor.

Hon. Senators, having utilised fully the 30 minutes allowable under Standing Order No.237, I will proceed to make the following directives. Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, Sen. Cherarkey and Sen. Wambua, kindly have your seats. (Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, Sen. Cherarkey and Sen. Wambua sat at their places) Hon. Senators, pursuant to Standing...

Hon. Senators, the voting is now complete and the results are as follows: Ayes: 32 NOES: 2 ABSTENTIONS: Nil ADOPTION OF THE REPORT ON THE STATUTORY INSTRUMENTS (EXEMPTION FROM EXPIRY) REGULATIONS, 2022 ROLL CALL VOTING Chute, Marsabit County; Sen. Dullo, Isiolo County; Sen. Faki, Mombasa County; Sen. Gataya Mo Fire,...

The results on the Division are as follows: AYES: 33 NOES: 1 ABSTENTION: Nil PAPERS LAID REPORTS ON THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS OF VARIOUS ENTITIES

The Chairperson Standing Committee on Trade, Industrialization and Tourism, kindly proceed to lay your Paper REPORT ON START-UP BILL (SENATE BILLS NO. 14 OF 2022)

Next Order! QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS NEGLECTED TROPICAL DISEASES PREVALENCE IN TROPICAL AND SUB-TROPICAL REGIONS

The next Statement is pursuant to Standing Order 53 (1) . Sen. Okenyuri, you have the Floor. DELAYED PAYMENT FOR INVIGILATORS AND EXAMINERS FOR 2022 KCPE AND KCSE EXAMINATIONS

Sen. Onyonka had requested to speak, but he is not in the Chamber. Why do Senators log in and walk out? Sen. Wafula, proceed.

Let us move to the next Statement by Sen. Kathuri. HARASSMENT AND MISTREATMENT OF PASSENGERS CARRYING MIRAA USING SGR

We move to the next Statement by Sen. Munyi Mundigi. LACK OF A BRIDGE CONNECTING EMBU AND KITUI COUNTIES ON THE RIVER TANA

Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted the Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly ring the Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted the Speaker) Hon. Senators, now that we have quorum, we can proceed with the business of the day. Clerk, kindly proceed to call the...

Hon. CS, kindly proceed to respond. The Cabinet Secretary for Roads, Transport and Public Works (Hon. Murkomen) : Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for according me this opportunity to appear before this august House. For me, it is to come back home, albeit sitting in a very unfamiliar territory in...

Hon. CS, please proceed. The Cabinet Secretary for Roads, Transport and Public Works (Hon. Murkomen) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, first of all, let me thank my Senator and colleague - in the league of profession - for raising that very important issue. When I was appointed to this office, I...

Hon. CS, you may respond to that question. The Cabinet Secretary for Roads, Transport and Public Works (Hon. Murkomen) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, I thank Sen. Mungatana. First, as a doctor, when you have a problem before you, if you a very experienced doctor, you may want to deal with...

No, you are making requests. You are supposed to ask question one; question only. The request, maybe you will make it if you visit. The Hon. CS has been very kind. He has invited all of you with issues to sit down with him. Those requests can be made when...

Hon. CS, you may respond. The Cabinet Secretary for Roads, Transport and Public Works (Hon. Murkomen) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, I agree with the Hon. Sen. Dullo, my former Deputy, on this very important issue of marginalization. As I said earlier, if you look at the current Equalization Fund, Isiolo...

Sen. Chute, proceed.

Hon. CS, proceed. The Cabinet Secretary for Roads, Transport and Public Works (Hon. Murkomen) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, if my friend Sen. Chute had applied himself to the question, he would understand that I was answering a question: Could the Cabinet Secretary state the distance in kilometres of tarmacked roads...

Hon. CS, you may respond. The Cabinet Secretary for Roads, Transport and Public Works (Hon. Murkomen) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, I thank my friend Sen. Veronica Maina for this question. It speaks to the core issue of pending bills and roads that are pending. I do not know if she...

Sen. (Prof.) Kamar, you are only allowed one supplementary question. Therefore, CS, proceed to respond to the first one. The Cabinet Secretary for Roads, Transport and Public Works (Hon. Murkomen): Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is true my neighbour Sen. (Prof.) Kamar has captured a problem that has affected the Nyaru-Iten...

Now, before you respond, Hon. CS, I have looked at your response. It is pretty lengthy. In fact, if I am to allow you to read this response, you will take more than half-an-hour. If you look at the questions posed by the Senator, these are questions that you can...

Hon. CS, you may respond. The Cabinet Secretary for Tourism, Wildlife and Cultural Heritage (Hon. Malonza): Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for that supplementary Question by the Senator.On the cruise ship that was canceled in March 2023 due to the demonstrations that we were happening in the country, my Ministry...

Hon. Senators, you cannot raise a point of order on the CS. CS, you need to be very clear. The Hon. Senator’s supplementary Question was: What kind of loss was occasioned by the cancellation of that particular cruise ship? The Cabinet Secretary for Tourism, Wildlife and Cultural Heritage (Hon. Malonza)...

Hon. CS, you may respond. The Cabinet Secretary for Tourism, Wildlife and Heritage (Hon. Malonza) : Indeed, I visited Baringo on the launch of a conference that was happening for Geo Park. Baringo will be the third if approved by United Nations Educational Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) . As...

Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe Ltumbesi? He is not in. Sen. Mandago kindly proceed.

Hon. CS, what is the loss suffered by the country? The Cabinet Secretary for Tourism, Wildlife and Heritage (Hon. Malonza) : Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Sir. As I had already stated on the loss of the number of visitations in our national parks and historical sites; allow me...

CS, if you do not have the right figures with you, it is always good to say so that you do not have them. So, proceed and respond. The Cabinet Secretary for Tourism, Wildlife and Heritage (Hon. Malonza) : Asante, Bw. Spika. Nitajibu hilo swali kwa kusema, nitakaa chini na...

Hon. CS, now that you are not in a position to give the exact details as requested and asked for by the honourable Senators, we will be going for recess at the rise of the House today and we are going to resume the next session on the 23rd of...

Hon. Senator, you know we are guided by our Standing Orders. There is no provision that we can send supplementary questions to the CS. The reason we are finding ourselves in this situation is we do not ask supplementary questions but totally, new questions. An example is the question on...

Sen. Gataya Mo Fire, before you pose your Question, let me make a comment. Hon. CS, welcome back to the Senate. You were with us last week. I believe you are familiar and you learnt from the directive I gave the last time you appeared here. Whenever you are responding...

According to the Order Paper, that is the only Question that was scheduled to be asked. That is the only Question you are supposed to ask. I will now allow the CS to proceed to respond to it. You have asked Question No.9 is it not?

Proceed, Hon. CS. The Cabinet Secretary for Lands, Public Works, Housing and Urban Development (Hon. Njeru) : Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for once again according me the opportunity in this august House. I thank and appreciate the Question from the Senator for Tharaka Nithi, Sen. Gataya Mo Fire. In...

Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted the Speaker) Serjeant-at-arms, kindly ring the quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Hon. Senators, we now have quorum. Therefore, we shall proceed with the business of the afternoon. Clerk, proceed to call the First Order. COMMUNICATION FROM THE...

Hon. Senators, I hereby report to the Senate that a Petition has been sent by Nayan Salva concerning the Victim Rights Charter. As you are aware under Article 119 (1) of the Constitution: “Every person has a right to petition Parliament to consider any matter within its authority including enacting,...

Sen. Mumma, proceed.

Sen. Madzayo, kindly, have your seat. Hon. Senators, there being no other Senator wishing to contribute to this Petition, Pursuant to Standing Order 238 (1) , the Petition is hereby committed to the Standing Committee on Justice, Legal Affairs and Human Rights for its consideration. In terms of Standing Order...

Chairperson, Standing Committee on Education or any Member from that Standing Committee, to proceed and lay the Paper. Do we have any Member from the Standing Committee on Education? Sen. Kavindu Muthama, kindly, proceed to lay the Paper on behalf of your Committee. REPORT ON THE LEARNERS WITH DISABILITIES BILL...

Next Order. STATEMENTS PROPOSED MONTHLY CONTRIBUTIONS TOWARDS THE HOUSING FUND The next Statement is pursuant to Standing Order No. 53 (1) . Sen. Olekina is not present. Therefore, this Statement is dropped. (Statement dropped) Proceed, Sen. Kibwana.

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, what is your point of order? Before you proceed to make your point, I had granted the Senate Minority Leader one minute. Immediately he is done with holding brief on behalf of Sen. Kibwana, he should utilize one minute to welcome the delegation from his home county....

The next Statement is by Sen. Cherarkey who is not in the House. That Statement is therefore dropped. FUEL SUBSIDY PROGRAMME BY THE NATIONAL GOVERNMENT Next Order. (The Clerk-at-the-Table approached the Chair) The Statement by Sen. Kibwana has been deferred but the Statements by Sen. Olekina and Sen. Cherarkey are...

Who is the Seconder of this Motion? Sen. Chute, kindly proceed to second the Motion.

Hon. Senators, kindly have your seats. (Question proposed) Senators, the Floor is now open. Sen. (Dr.) Oburu, please, proceed.

Sen. Okenyuri, please proceed.

Is it an intervention or a point of order? Proceed and tell us under what Standing Order are you prosecuting your point of order?

Proceed. What is it? Just give it a name, Sen. Chute. INTERCOMMUNAL KILLINGS AND DISPLACEMENT OF RESIDENTS IN MARSABIT COUNTY

Hon. Senators, you may now have your seats. Indeed, I am persuaded that the Motion has met the requirements of Standing Order No.37 (5) . Therefore, that Motion shall be prosecuted at 5.30 p.m. today. (Applause)