Haji Abdul Mohammed

Sen. Seki of Kajiado County, proceed. POOR WORKING CONDITIONS AT THE BOMAS OF KENYA CONSTRUCTION SITE

Thank you, Senator. Sen. Joyce Korir, proceed. DISCOVERY OF 14 BODIES AT MAKABURINI CEMETERY, KERICHO COUNTY

Hon. Senators, I have--- (Sen. Hamida and Sen. Korir stood in their places) Sen. Hamida and Sen. Joyce Korir, take your seats. (Interruption of Statements) COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE CHAIR VISITING DELEGATIONS FROM SINENDET AND MURRAY SECONDARY SCHOOLS IN BARINGO AND TAITA-TAVETA COUNTIES Hon. Senators, I have Communication from the Chair...

Thank you, Senator. Sen. Maanzo, you can welcome the students from Taita-Taveta because they are your neighbours.

Senator for Mombasa, I want to give you the opportunity to welcome the delegation from Kwale.

Hon. Senators, considering that we have a lot of statements that have been read and I am sure Senators want to make comments on them, I would like to rearrange the Order Paper just for one Order, so that we move to Order No.8, conclude with it, then go back...

Hon. Senators, we are going to spend 20 minutes only on comments on the statements. I can see many names on the dashboard. I request Senators who will get a chance to speak to do so for not more than three minutes. Proceed, Sen. Boni Khalwale.

Sen. Cherarkey.

Yes, stop his time. Yes, Sen. Osotsi. Give him the microphone.

Sen. Osotsi, I did not quite understand your Standing Order.

Hon. Senators, I am giving an opportunity to Sen. Agnes Kavindu. She has requested the Chair since she is not feeling too well and wanted to comment. Proceed, Sen. Agnes.

Proceed,

We are supposed to remove him from the dashboard. Proceed, Sen. Faki.

Senators, if you are going to speak, come to the Dispatch.

Sen. Karen, if that is the case, you are out of order. I just saw her go back to the chair.

Sen. Joyce Korir, can I remind you that I am the Chair and in charge of keeping this House in order? I do not see that disorder--- (Loud consultations)

Sen. Esther Okenyuri, you have the Floor.

Sen. Andrew Okiya Omtatah.

Senator, I will give you a minute. Do you want to be informed by Sen. Cherarkey? He is making a lot of requests. Would you like to be informed, or should I tell him---

Okay, stop the clock, but Senator, you only have one minute remaining.

Sen. Okiya Omtatah, you may proceed.

Sen. Veronica Maina, you may proceed.

Thank you. Sen. Madzayo, please proceed. The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Madzayo) : Bw. Spika wa Muda, kwanza, nampa kongole Seneta chipukizi kutoka eneo la Baringo, ndugu yangu Sen. Kiprono, kwa taarifa ambayo ameleta ndani ya Bunge la Seneti kuhusu vile mvua inafanya madhara ambayo hayafai kuweko ama yanakuja kwa...

Seneta, wakati wako umeisha. Nikiongezea kila mtu muda hatutamaliza hizi Statements. Muongezee dakika moja. The Senate Minority Leader (

Senator for Baringo County, please proceed.

Sen. Wambua, please proceed.

Sen. Wambua, and please conclude.

Sen. Veronica, what is your point of order?

Sen. Mo Fire, please proceed.

Sen. Olekina, please proceed.

Sen. Olekina, would you like one more minute to conclude on your statement?

Sen. Joyce Korir---very well. Sen. Eddie Gicheru, proceed.

Add him one more minute.

Thank you, Hon. Senators. We have come to the conclusion of making comments on the Statements. Hon. Senators, I am going to take this opportunity to slightly arrange the Order Paper. We are going to defer Order Nos.9 all the way to Order No.21, and then we move to Order...

teachers who are undertaking diploma courses in science and primary and secondary education.We are aware that of the 27,000 students under diploma, both in teacher training and other aspects, some do not access loans and grants. I hope we will amend the law, and I believe that it is unfair...

Thank you, Cabinet Secretary. Sen. Wafula, do you have any supplementary questions? We shall proceed to take supplementary questions from the other Senators. Sen. Alexander Mundigi, please proceed.

Sen. Mundigi, hakuna kitu kama general questions. Hakuna kitu kama hicho. Swali lako linafaa kuhusiana na lile swali ambalo limeulizwa na Sen. Wafula.

Lilipitwa na wakati.

Tutawachia Waziri aamue kama ana hiyo information ili akupe jawabu. Ikiwa hana, itakuwa ni jukumu lake pengine kukuandikia kando. Sen. Moses Kajwang’, najua umengojea lakini siunaona orodha hapo?

Nilikuwa natafuta jina lako.

Thank you. Sen. Steve Lelegwe, please, proceed.

We have passed that already. Sen. Mohamed Chute, please, proceed.

Just a moment. Senators, if you are not intending to ask a Question, could you, please, unclick your button, so that we can have only the Senators who want to ask questions on the schedule? Proceed, Sen. Chute.

Sen. Chute, I am going to remind you the same thing I reminded Sen. Mundigi. You are asking a question which is outside the line Question which has been asked.

Yes, you have said it, but your question is so detailed about an individual. You cannot expect the CS at this very moment to answer that question.

No, he cannot answer now or later because it is not part of the line Question.

Sen. Chute, if I am about to advise you, seek an appointment with the Cabinet Secretary to take the matter to him, because he will have to ask his officers for the file. You cannot expect him---

No! We will not argue on this, Sen. Chute. Please, take a seat. We are going to take the next Question. Sen. Joe Nyutu, please, proceed.

Sen. Samson Cherarkey, please, proceed.

Sen. Cherarkey, why do you seek points of order for no reason? You are just supposed to ask your question. Sen. Nyutu, what is your point of order?

Sen. Mundigi.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, mine is a point of order. It is very difficult to get these Cabinet Secretaries so that we can ask them questions on whichever platform. I know it might be easier to say, “let Eddie Oketch go to the Cabinet Secretary’s office.” However, I can tell...

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I do not envy you. It is very difficult to steer this House on track sometimes with the kind of interactions I have seen this morning. I have a quick question for the Cabinet Secretary with regard to Question No.002 on these predatory lending practices by...

Proceed, Sen. Enock Wambua.

Sen. Maanzo, proceed?

Cabinet Secretary, respond. Give Yes, Senate Majority Leader.

Thank you, Senate Majority Leader. Hon. Senators, we have come to the end of Question Time with the Cabinet Secretary. That is in order. Thank you very much, Cabinet Secretary. Thank you very much and have a good afternoon. It is still morning, sorry. Good morning. Please, Serjeant-at-Arms, usher in...

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, Question No. 003 is about the fatal shooting of Mr. Victor Kipng’eno Mutai, by police officers. This is a question from Nominated Senator, Hon. Joyce Korir. She has requested to be apprised of the fatal shooting of Mr. Victor Kipng’eno Mutai by police officers on 23rd...

Thank you, Cabinet Secretary. Sen. Shakila, do you have a supplementary question?

Hon. Senators, we are compiling the results and we will get back to you shortly. THE COUNTY LIBRARY SERVICES BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.40 OF 2024) DIVISION ELECTRONIC VOTING Hon. Senators, these are the results on deletion of clauses- AYES: 26 NOES: Nil ABSENTIONS: Nil Hon. Senators, these are the results...

It is okay. It does not need a seconder. (Question put and agreed to) (The House resumed) [The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Veronica Maina) in the Chair] CONSIDERATION OF REPORT THE COUNTY LIBRARY SERVICES BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.40 OF 2024) Hon. Senators, the session has resumed. I want to invite the...

Add him one more minute.

Thank you, Senator. Sen. Sifuna, please proceed. Sen. Onyonka, I have been informed that Sen. Sifuna had been dropped by the system.

(Applause)

Sen. Richard Onyonka.

Nakuongezea dakika moja tu umalize hoja yako.

Sen. Danson Mungatana.

Sen. Catherine Mumma.

One additional minute for her.

Sen. Paul Thang’wa.

Thank you, Senator. Senators, we have spent a lot of time on statements, but I will allow the last two speakers. (Sen. Omogeni spoke off record) You are not on the dashboard, Senior Counsel. Sen. Julius Murgor.

Sen. Cherarkey.

Thank you, Senator. Sen. Mariam Omar-Sheikh.

Sen. Joe Nyutu.

Thank you, Senator. Your time is up. Proceed, Sen. Omogeni.

Thank you, Sen. Omogeni. Hon. Senators, we have come to the end of the Statements. We should proceed to the next Order. However, Order No.8 will be deferred because the Senate Majority Leader is not around. Order No. 9 is also deferred. THE KENYA NATIONAL COUNCIL FOR POPULATION AND DEVELOPMENT...

Yes, very well. How many minutes do you need? Sen. Crystal, we seem not to have any other interest in that debate, so if you could please retrieve your notes and we can proceed or advise us. Sen. Crystal Asige, are you going to contribute?

Okay, very well.

Thank you, Senator. Next is Sen. Omogeni.

Thank you, Senator.

Hon. Senators, since we do not have the numbers, we will defer the putting of the question and move to the next order. (Putting of the Question on the Motion deferred) Clerk. THE ELECTRONIC EQUIPMENT DISPOSAL RECYCLING AND REUSE BILL (SENATE BILLS NO. 5 OF 2025) Since there is no...

Thank you, Senator. The putting of the question and division is hereby deferred and we shall move to the next order, Clerk. (Putting of the Question on the Bill deferred) ADOPTION OF REPORT ON PETITION ON DISMISSAL AND NON-PAYMENT OF ARREARS OF MR. TITUS NJOROGE BY AIC OF KENYA

Sen. Peris Tobiko please proceed. (Sen. Tobiko was not in the Chamber) There being no Senators interested to debate--- Hon. Senators, I will propose the Question. (Question proposed) I call upon the Mover to reply.

The Chairperson, the Senate

The Chairperson, The Senate Standing Committee on Labour and Social Welfare, please proceed. [The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Abdul Haji) left the Chair]

Sen. Olekina, please proceed.

Thank you. Proceed, Sen. Danson Mungatana.

Hon. Senators, I want to assume that is the mood of the House.

Very well. I have now read the mood. I call the Mover to reply.

Serjeant-at-Arms, you may draw the bar and open the doors. (The Bars were drawn and doors opened) Hon. Senators, we will now go back to Statements. (Resumption of Statements) AYES: 29 NOES: Nil ABSTENTIONS: Nil Serjeant-at-Arms, you may draw the bar and open the doors. (The Bars were drawn and...

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Land, DEVELOPMENT OF PRIVATE LUXURY LODGE ON MIGRATION CORRIDOR OF THE MAASAI MARA

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Finance and Budget regarding the disbursement of the Road Maintenance Levy Fund (RMLF) . In the statement, the committee should address the following- DISBURSEMENT OF THE ROAD...

Sen. Mumma, it is okay. Proceed, you are protected. Allow her to be heard in silence. (Sen. Cherarkey spoke off record)

Sen. Mumma, it is okay. Sen. Cherarkey, allow her to finish--- It is true, Sen. Mumma, it was not him talking.

It was Sen. Methu. However, let us hear the Senator in silence.

Thank you, Senator. Hon. Senators, we will now allow comments on the Statements, starting with Sen. Paul Thang’wa.

Pause his time. What is your point of order, Sen. Hamida?

Allow the Senator to speak. She said Standing Order No.105.

Sen. Hamida, you are giving more of information than a point of order.

You should have requested Sen. Thang’wa. If there was nothing out of order, let us allow Sen. Thang’wa to proceed. Sen. Thang’wa, conclude.

Okay. Sen. Ogola.

Proceed, Sen. John Kinyua.

Sen. Osotsi, you have the Floor.

Sen. Samson Cherarkey.

Sen. Cherarkey, do you want to be informed by Sen. Osotsi?

Sen. Jackson Mandago.

Give him 30 more seconds to conclude.

Hon. Mohamed Chute, proceed.

Give him one minute to conclude.

Thank you, Senator. However, Sen. Chute, having listened to your submission, I am also aware that there are many Kenyans in Dubai and Qatar who are employed in very decent jobs and are not being mistreated. In Saudi Arabia as well, we have Kenyans working as senior managers. Senator, as...

Thank you, Cabinet Secretary. Sen. Sifuna, proceed with your supplementary question.

To set the record straight or to assist in making sure that it remains with the City County of Nairobi? Hon. Cabinet Secretary, proceed. What clarification are you seeking for because it is a question raised by Sen. Sifuna? She needs to respond. (Sen. Kinyua spoke off record) You will...

Sen. Sifuna, do you have another supplementary question? Sen. Maanzo?

Sen. Cherarkey.

Sen. Cherarkey, I do not know whether I will allow your question because your supplementary question has to be related to the primary question. You are ambushing the Cabinet Secretary with a question about Nandi when we are talking about issues of Nairobi in this primary question.

Let us take the other supplementary question from Sen. Catherine Mumma.

Sen. Mumma, I do not know whether I am going to allow your question because it does not relate with the primary question that was raised by Sen. Sifuna. Sen. Onyonka, what is your question?

Thank you. Cabinet Secretary, you may respond to the question raised by Sen. Maanzo and Sen. Onyonka. The questions raised by Sen. Cherarkey and Sen. Mumma, will depend on your prerogative, on whether you will respond or not, but they do not touch on the primary question. Also, Cabinet Secretary,...

Cabinet Secretary, proceed. The Cabinet Secretary for Lands, Public Works, Housing and Urban Development (Hon. Alice Wahome) : On the question on the College of Insurance asked by Hon. Senator for Nairobi- Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, this is grant No. LR No. 209/10210 or IR No.66157 which contained an acreage...

Sen. Sifuna, your question is very wide. You are asking the CS what sort of defense they put up in this case on a matter which has already been pronounced by the courts.

Sen. Sifuna, no, it is an important question, but I do not know if the CS will be in a capacity to know the defense that was put in place. The Cabinet Secretary for Lands, Public Works, Housing and Urban Development (Hon. Alice Wahome) : Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I...

Sen. Osotsi, you may proceed.

Sen. Osotsi, I do not know if you were here when the Cabinet Secretary said that for Nairobi City County, it is almost 90 per cent completed. Are you asking now for the timelines for the whole country?

This question was touching on the Nairobi and that is why I am asking you: Are you asking for the timeline for the whole county?

Hon. Cabinet Secretary, you may proceed to respond. The Cabinet Secretary for Lands, Public Works, Housing and Urban Development (Hon. Alice Wahome) : Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. In response to Sen. Osotsi, let me say that, maybe by way of repeating myself; it is true that the programme...

hectares and an additional land was given as Makuyu/Block 1/1635. The green card copiesare there for those parcels. Block 1/807 measuring hectares and an additional land was given as Makuyu/Block 1/1635. The green card copiesare there for those parcels. Block 1/807 measuring

Thank you, Senator. You have asked almost three questions. So, I think that covers all your supplementary questions.

not possible because this land is registered in the name of the Government of Kenya. It is important that I clarify that the land is safe and secure. It is not possible to grab the land because it is also restricted by an order of the Cabinet Secretary.Three, the Hon....

Proceed, Sen. Maanzo.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, mine is a point of order on Standing Order No.105. It is very important.

You did not press the intervention button. I thought you wanted to ask a supplementary question?

You have a point of order directed to who?

The Cabinet Secretary is not on the Floor at the moment.

Proceed.

Sen. Osotsi, are you seeking clarification from the Cabinet Secretary?

good to confess that we have come a long way. Notwithstanding his different political trajectory, we are now perhaps looking at different directions. Let me not mention more names because I do not want to be in trouble on the Floor of this House. I withdraw that particular comment.Finally, Sen....

Is the eviction an order from the court or from the Ministry?

Thank you very much, Cabinet Secretary. We have come to the end of the questions and answers. At this point, we would like to permit you to leave. We would also like to thank you for answering all the questions comprehensively and for attending this morning's session. Thank you very...

Since there are no Senators wishing to contribute, I call upon the Mover to reply.

Hon. Senators, it is now 1.00 p.m., time to adjourn the Senate. The Senate, therefore, stands adjourned until later today, Wednesday, 19th November 2025 at 2.30 p.m. The Senate rose at 1.00 p.m.

Hon. CS, you can proceed to answer the questions. The Cabinet Secretary for Public Service, Human Capital Development and Special Programme (Hon. Geoffrey Ruku) : Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for the questions and the good work which the Senate is doing to keep Kenyans informed, and for us,...

Sen. Cherarkey.

Sen. Eddy and Sen. Cherarkey, I must confess that you did not give the Cabinet Secretary an opportunity to conclude his submission. He was probably coming to that. If you had been patient as you stated, Sen. Eddy, he probably was transitioning to the viability of the company. Let us...

Sen. Cherarkey, what is your intervention?

Thank you, Senator. Cabinet Secretary, please respond. The Cabinet Secretary for Public Service, Human Capital Development and Special Programmes (Hon. Geoffrey Ruku) : Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, starting with the Deputy Speaker, there is a matrix which will be announced to the public during recruitment of 4,000 graduates from NYS...

Thank you, Sen. Kinyua for reminding me. My apologies, hon. Senators. We have received an apology from the Cabinet Secretary, Hon. John Mbadi. He has requested for his question time to be rescheduled to a later date. The request was received through the right channel, let me just put it...

Sen. Cherarkey, let me first correct you. You do not know if the letter was received this morning. I am actually informed that the letter was received yesterday, but it was received after the Senate Business Committee (SBC) sat and that is why there was no earlier communication. However, the...

Just hold on, Sen. Mwaruma. What is your intervention, Sen. Kinyua?

Thank you, Sen. Wambua. The CS has appeared before, just to correct your submission. This is the first time he has not appeared for this set of questions. (Sen. Wambua spoke off record) I am informing you. We are not censuring him. You are wrongly censuring him. Sen. Cherarkey, we...

Thank you, Senator. Sen. Beatrice Ogola, you may second.

Hon. Senator, when the House resumes, you will have a remaining balance of nine minutes to conclude seconding the Motion. ADJOURNMENT

Hon. Senators, I am going to rearrange the Order Paper. We are going to defer Order Nos.10, 11, 12 and 13, which were supposed to be division. We do not have the numbers. We are going to further defer Order Nos.14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19 - Committee of the...

Hon. Senators, we are now open for debate. I call upon Sen. Wambua Enoch. (Sen. Oketch Gicheru spoke off record)

Sen. Wambua, there is a point of order. Sen. Omtatah, what is your point of order?

I wish Sen. (Prof.) Ojienda, SC, was paying attention to this point of order, which was raised by Sen. Okiya Omtatah. He would have given his line of thought. However, Sen. Okiya Omtatah, what I would probably rule is that during your submission, when you are contributing to this Motion,...

On a point of order, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I wish Sen. (Prof.) Ojienda, SC, was paying attention to this point of order, which was raised by Sen. Okiya Omtatah. He would have given his line of thought. However, Sen. Okiya Omtatah, what I would probably rule is that during...

Sen. Cherarkey, before you proceed, withdraw the word “howlers” from the records of this House.

Sen. Cherarkey, before you proceed, withdraw the word “howlers” from the records of this House.

Yes, but withdraw the word “howlers.”

Then proceed.

Sen. Wambua, you are continuously challenging the Speaker to take action on an individual he does not know about. Can you mention the individual for the Speaker to know what actions to take? Sen. Wambua, you may proceed.

Sen. Cherarkey, Sen. Enock Wambua has stated on the Floor of the House that he had not completed his statement. Can we allow him to go through the same train of thought, to complete his statements about you, then we will know what action to take against him? Proceed, Sen....

Sen. Wambua, you are continuously challenging the Speaker to take action on an individual he does not know about. Can you mention the individual for the Speaker to know what actions to take?

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I wish Sen. Cherarkey listens to people making submissions on the Floor, and if he cannot, at least exercise his ability to read even that Standing Order that he has read. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, although I know the names of the judicial officers who are...

Sen. Consolata Nabwire, please, proceed.

In my words I said, “if you consider the manner in which he came to power.” If you consider. There is nothing adverse about this. It is a fact that President Museveni came to power through a military takeover. It is a fact.

I never said more about the Tanzanian President.

In the manner in which they came into power.

What about the President of Tanzania?

You mentioned the Head of Tanzania. In the same sentence that you made reference to Uganda, you made reference to Tanzania as well. Senate Majority Leader, what is your point of order?

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

What is your point of order, Sen. Cherarkey?

Sen. Sifuna, there is no limitation on how many times you may raise a point of order. So, allow the Senator his right.

Sen. Cherarkey, there is no need to guide the Speaker or the Chair. I am following closely. Sen. Osotsi has not refused. He is not out of order or disorderly; he was just explaining his submission. Sen. Osotsi, please withdraw and then conclude your submission.

Thank you, Senator. Proceed, Sen. Eddy Oketch.

Sen. Okiya Omtatah, please proceed.

My apologies, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I beg to give notice of the following Motion- THAT, the Senate resolves that during the long recesses of the Fourth Session of the 13th Parliament, where any Statutory Instrument or Paper is transmitted for tabling in the Senate, and the Speaker determines that the...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like to take this opportunity to comment on the Statement raised by the great Senator for Elgeyo-Marakwet. I want to begin by recording my condolences and sorrows to the people of Chesongoch in Elgeyo- Marakwet. On my own behalf, and on behalf of the people...

Sen. Boni Khalwale, please proceed.

Thank you for that. A young lawyer and entrepreneur, Frederick Laurenti Obuya, a lawyer who runs a tour company, was arrested. We demand that the head of mission in Dar-es-Salaam goes tomorrow morning to Oyster Bay Police Station in Dar-es-Salaam, where this young man was last seen, so that from...

Sen. Cherarkey, please proceed.

What is your point of order?

Sen. Murgor, you cannot comment on that Statement, maybe another.

Sen. Murgor, there is a point of order.

One moment, Sen. Murgor. What is your point of order, Sen. Mumma?

Sen. Wafula, who do you want to inform? That was a point of order.

Sen. Murgor, do you want to be informed by Sen. Wafula?

Sen. Mumma, what is your point of order?

Sen. Wafula stood on a point of information not a point of order.

(Loud consultations)

Sen. Mumma, what is your point of order?

Cherarkey, you had made your point of information. However, just finish.

Sen. Kinyua, what is your point of information or order?

Sen. Kinyua, kwani jina la mamuluki si lugha inayoweza kutumika Bunge? (Sen. Kinyua alijibizana na Spika bila kurekodi) Nani alisema haliwezi kutumika kwa Wakenya? Sema, Sen. Cherarkey.

What is your point of order, Sen. Chute? Give him the microphone.

Sen. Joyce Korir, what is your point of order?

Hon. Senators, we will have to give an opportunity to Sen. Murgor to conclude and wind up his submissions. I also rule that as far as Sen. Murgor sits in this House, he is a Senator for West Pokot. When the matter is taken to his Committee, he will resume...

Sen. Joyce Korir.

Sen. Godfrey Osotsi.

Your three minutes are up, Sen. Osotsi. You have one minute to conclude.

Sen. Esther Okenyuri.

Hon. Senators, we will have to rearrange the Order of Paper and also defer some of the Orders. However, before we rearrange the Order of Paper, we will go to the next Order. Clerk, proceed. THE ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT AND CO-ORDINATION (AMENDMENT) BILL (NATIONAL BILLS NO.66 OF 2024) Hon. Senators, we...

Sen. Chute, proceed to reply.

Did you contribute the other time?

Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. Let me take this opportunity, first of all, to thank my Members. We did a very good job. As you are aware, there was a Motion by the Majority and the Minority leaders in this House asking, that was on Wednesday 24th July 2024,...

Sen. Karen Nyamu, make your contribution.

I call upon the mover to reply.

Thank you, Hon. Senator. That putting of the question has been deferred. (Putting of the Question on the Motion deferred) Hon. Senators, we will arrange the Order Paper, so that we go to Order No.34. Order Nos. 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33 are deferred. ADOPTION OF PROGRESS...

Sen. Moses Kajwang’, you have the Floor.

Thank you. Proceed, Sen. Samson Cherarkey.

Sen. Omogeni, I do not think Sen. Cherarkey referred to you as a rogue Senator. An hon. Senator: That is what he said.

No.

Sen. Omogeni, I had not finished. Sen. Cherarkey, did you use the word “undermine”?

If you did, then you need to withdraw and apologise.

Sen. Cherarkey.

(Loud consultations)(Loud consultations) Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, if we withdraw all English words, what will we be speaking on the Floor? Let me say the following. I have used the word “misleading”. (Loud consultations) (Loud consultations) Sen. Methu, let the Senator be heard. (Loud consultations)

(Laughter)

Order, Sen. Methu! You are not on a point of order. Sen. Cherarkey, could you, please, stop implying about individuals who are not in this House to defend themselves? Just proceed to make your submissions.

What is your point of order, Sen. Joyce?

Sen. Faki, what is your point of order?

Yes, Sen. Joyce.

Sen. Cherarkey, proceed to make your submissions without referring to or implying to anybody.

Add him two minutes.

Sen. John Methu, please, proceed. My apologies, Methu, we are supposed to go to this side.

No, my apologies. Pole. Let Faki speak then you will speak next. Please, take your seat. Sen. Faki, please, proceed.

Sen. Methu.