Makali Benson Mulu

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I also join colleagues in appreciating this Request for a Statement. At this point, we need to be very careful about how we handle this Statement. We have quite a number of stakeholders in this matter. We need...

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I want to start by thanking the Committee for the detailed report. I listened to the Chairman as he moved the Motion on these various institutions. I want to comment on three general statements which are worth mentioning....

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 3 of the Bill be amended— Bill for purposes of payment of pension, gratuity and death gratuity. Additionally, to define the

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. I beg to move: THAT, clause 4 of the Bill be deleted. 1st July 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 31 Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM)The amendment we are proposing here is a deletion of Clause 4. We...

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move that the new Clause 12A be now read a Second Time. This provision is being deleted because it provides for reducing a Member's benefits for serious misconduct, contrary to the Parliamentary Powers and Privileges Act. The...

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move that the House reports its consideration of the Parliamentary Pensions (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 5 of 2023) and its approval thereof with amendments. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) THE KENYA NATIONAL LIBRARY...

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I request Hon. Rindikiri to second the Motion for agreement with the report of the Committee of the whole House.

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the Parliamentary Pensions (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 5 of

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM)(Technical hitch)Hon. Temporary Speaker, I seek your indulgence to appreciate Members for the long journey that we have travelled together… The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Omboko Milema) Use the next microphone to your left. Please, switch off all the other microphones. Try that one. Hon....

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) No, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I also join colleagues in appreciating this Request for a Statement. At this point, we need to be very careful about how we handle this Statement. We have quite a number of stakeholders in this matter. We need...

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I want to start by thanking the Committee for the detailed report. I listened to the Chairman as he moved the Motion on these various institutions. I want to comment on three general statements which are worth mentioning....

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 3 of the Bill be amended— Bill for purposes of payment of pension, gratuity and death gratuity. Additionally, to define the

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. I beg to move: THAT, clause 4 of the Bill be deleted. 1st July 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 31 Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM)The amendment we are proposing here is a deletion of Clause 4. We...

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move that the new Clause 12A be now read a Second Time. This provision is being deleted because it provides for reducing a Member's benefits for serious misconduct, contrary to the Parliamentary Powers and Privileges Act. The...

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move that the House reports its consideration of the Parliamentary Pensions (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 5 of 2023) and its approval thereof with amendments. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) THE KENYA NATIONAL LIBRARY...

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I request Hon. Rindikiri to second the Motion for agreement with the report of the Committee of the whole House.

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the Parliamentary Pensions (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 5 of

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM)(Technical hitch)Hon. Temporary Speaker, I seek your indulgence to appreciate Members for the long journey that we have travelled together… The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Omboko Milema) Use the next microphone to your left. Please, switch off all the other microphones. Try that one. Hon....

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) No, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. I have listened to Hon. Kangogo; and while deletion might be justifiable, I would like to know whether it is being deleted because the Council was merged or because there is no value the Council adds. If there...

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. I have listened to Hon. Kangogo; and while deletion might be justifiable, I would like to know whether it is being deleted because the Council was merged or because there is no value the Council adds. If there...

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I am seeking your guidance on Clause 5. The Clause was a deletion but you have read that it be part of the Bill. I do not know whether that is substantial or something that you can just ignore. But...

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I am seeking your guidance on Clause 5. The Clause was a deletion but you have read that it be part of the Bill. I do not know whether that is substantial or something that you can just ignore. But...

Hon (Dr.) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, thank you very much for this opportunity. I have looked at the Order Paper and I see that there is Order No.9, which is the Committee of the whole House. Part of that will be on the Finance Bill but...

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I also wish to add my voice to this important discussion. I have been seated here since yesterday listening to the contributions of Members. It is important that we put a few issues into perspective, so...

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, what I wanted to say is this, irrespective of who owns the house or the mall, it is a Kenyan who lives there. And immediately the cost of taxation goes up, a Kenyan would suffer. The third point is the...

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I will be very brief. Being a Member of the Budget and Appropriations Committee, I join my colleagues in supporting the Supplementary Budget, but I have to make the following observations. The originator of the Supplementary Budget is...

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me this opportunity to say a few things about the Bill, which seeks to amend the CBK Act. As the Leader of the Majority Party has said, it only has eight clauses. These amendments are quite...

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I want to start by thanking my Chairperson for moving this Report. She has done so very well, and that is why I agree with the Leader of the Majority Party that she fits the bill. We are...

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I pressed the button to let you know there is an amendment to Clause 12. Because it has been explained, it makes a lot of sense. Those are the general requirements to get someone in or out of...

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, the Mover needs to explain Clause 14 (b) of the Bill, which states that you are deleting the words “County Executive Committee Member” and substituting therefor the words “county government”. I thought the earlier one was more specific. County government...

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I take this opportunity to extend a warm welcome to all the students and the teachers who have accompanied them to the House of Parliament. This is where the laws of the country are legislated. I...

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. The issue I wanted to raise is that Members are already discussing the proposed new Clause 31A instead of Clause 31. Therefore, if you could put the question on Clause 31, we can dispose of it and then...

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Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. While I support this amendment, I think we need to rethink its objective, which is to allow the county governments to develop their own domestic laws. However, when you state that such laws must be in line with...

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I do not mind the compliments. By the way, I will be a governor. That is not a big deal. The issue at hand is different. When we enact a Bill, we have an Act of Parliament. To make the...

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Thank you very much, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I also join my colleagues in supporting this important Bill. Just as we have KSG and CPST, I think it is important that we also establish the Judicial Service Academy. Despite my colleagues' suggestions for improvement,...

Hon. Dr. Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Thank you, Hon. Chairlady. Now that we are going to pass this budget, there are quite a lot of districts and divisions which have been created but have not been operationalised. I would think with this budget now, we should make them operational...

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Thank you, Hon. Chairlady. Even as Hon. Mishi pushes for additional resources from the Consolidated Fund, this is one of the departments which can collect much more money through A-in-A. So, we urge them to go digital and collect more money from and...

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Hon. Chairlady, I will be very brief. Actually, Hon. Mishi has taken the words right out of my mouth. Constituency digital hubs must be prioritised in terms of equipment. I submit, Hon. Chairlady.

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. I agree with Hon. Mutunga. We are struggling with revenue generation in this country, yet this is a sector from which we can generate a lot of revenue if we allocate more resources to it. It is time...

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I stand to second the Procedural Motion to amend the Order Paper and dedicate this morning to Budget-related business instead of considering Private Members’ Bills and Motions. The decision to bring this Motion is informed by...

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I stand to second the Procedural Motion to amend the Order Paper and dedicate this morning to Budget-related business instead of considering Private Members’ Bills and Motions. The decision to bring this Motion is informed by...

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I appreciate this opportunity to comment on the Budget Estimates for the Financial Year 2026/2027. My Chairman and Vice-Chairman have talked about the figures, but the only figure that they did not mention, which I would...

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I appreciate this opportunity to comment on the Budget Estimates for the Financial Year 2026/2027. My Chairman and Vice-Chairman have talked about the figures, but the only figure that they did not mention, which I would...

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I stand to second the Procedural Motion to amend the Order Paper and dedicate this morning to Budget-related business instead of considering Private Members’ Bills and Motions. The decision to bring this Motion is informed by...

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I appreciate this opportunity to comment on the Budget Estimates for the Financial Year 2026/2027. My Chairman and Vice-Chairman have talked about the figures, but the only figure that they did not mention, which I would...

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order. Take your seat, Hon. Sigei. Go ahead, Hon. Makali Mulu. Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I do not intend to disrupt...

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Thank you, Hon. Chairlady. In addition to what Hon. Millie has said, instead of deleting, you can qualify paragraph

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Thank you, Hon. Chairlady. In addition to what Hon. Millie has said, instead of deleting, you can qualify paragraph

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Thank you, Hon. Chairlady. Even as I support these amendments, I am looking at paragraphs (h) and (ha) and from a drafting perspective, (ha) should also be drafted in the same way as (h) , where the statutory regulatory bodies nominate, and the...

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Thank you, Hon. Chairlady. Even as I support these amendments, I am looking at paragraphs (h) and (ha) and from a drafting perspective, (ha) should also be drafted in the same way as (h) , where the statutory regulatory bodies nominate, and the...

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Thank you. I agree with this amendment. However, I do not think the Chairperson of the Board must necessarily be a healthcare professional. I have served on boards where the Chairperson came from a completely different professional background, including lecturers, and they performed...

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Thank you. I agree with this amendment. However, I do not think the Chairperson of the Board must necessarily be a healthcare professional. I have served on boards where the Chairperson came from a completely different professional background, including lecturers, and they performed...

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Thank you, Hon. Chairlady. In addition to what Hon. Millie has said, instead of deleting, you can qualify paragraph

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Thank you, Hon. Chairlady. Even as I support these amendments, I am looking at paragraphs (h) and (ha) and from a drafting perspective, (ha) should also be drafted in the same way as (h) , where the statutory regulatory bodies nominate, and the...

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Thank you. I agree with this amendment. However, I do not think the Chairperson of the Board must necessarily be a healthcare professional. I have served on boards where the Chairperson came from a completely different professional background, including lecturers, and they performed...

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I think this amendment is very important. What the Chairman is trying to say is that the representative on that important board must be from a registered community. Irrespective of where they come from, they will be representing...

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. This qualification issue is normally very tricky, and I want the Chairman to listen. It is important to have a master’s degree, but if you make it mandatory... Most of the other positions only require a bachelor’s degree, with...