Catherine Muyeka Mumma

Mr. Speaker, Sir, thank you for this opportunity to speak. This matter is grave. It is painful for those of us who are mothers. Albert was about the age of my son, and Albert shares a name with my husband. I have just learnt that Albert is a young man...

Asante, Bi. Spika wa Muda, kwa kunipa fursa hii. Naunga mkono Hoja ya marekebisho iliyoletwa na Sen. Okong’o Omogeni. Ni dhahiri shahiri kwamba pesa zinapaswa kuambatana na majukumu. Majukumu mengi yamehamishwa kutoka kwa Serikali Kuu hadi kwa kaunti. Ni vigumi kwa kaunti yoyote inayopata chini ya Shilingi 6 bilioni kwa...

Proceed.

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker, for this opportunity to support the amendment on the basis of sharing revenue by Sen. Okong’o Omogeni, the Senator for Nyamira. I must say that we have come from very far. Previously, in the 1980s, we had a one-party state and we had resources being...

Asante sana, Bi. Spika wa Muda, kwa kunipa nafasi hii. Kwanza, ningependa kushukuru Kamati ya Fedha na Bajeti inayoongozwa na Mwenyekiti ambaye ni Sen. Ali Roba kutoka Mandera. Amedhihirisha tajriba na weledi wa kuongoza Kamati hiyo kwa sababu mbinu ya kugawa pesa waliopendekeza imefanya kuwe na amani hapa katika Seneti....

Sen. Murango, you have a balance of two minutes when debate resumes. ADJOURNMENT

Senate Majority Leader, can you substantiate your allegations?

Order, Sen. Wambua. Can you listen to the substantiation?

Sen. Kinyua, is that a point of order or are you just making a statement? What is your issue?

Sen. Cheruiyot, proceed with the debate.

Sen. Cheruiyot, proceed with the debate.

Sen. Cheruiyot, do you want to sit down? Sen. Wambua, quickly, pass the information.

Sen. Wambua, the Speaker is constrained to rule on customs that are not in the Standing Orders, but Sen. Cheruiyot has heard. I hope behind the tent, he will do what is necessary.

Sen. Wambua, the Speaker is constrained to rule on customs that are not in the Standing Orders, but Sen. Cheruiyot has heard. I hope behind the tent, he will do what is necessary.

That is very good information, which you need to use, Sen. Omogeni, because you are the owner of this amended Motion. Shave this poverty index from the proposed, what is it, what is the percentage? I am trying to - 12 percent - Let us have it at nine or...

Sen. M. Kajwang’, and for the Senators who will be speaking, remember we are discussing the amendment Motion.

Senate Majority Leader, what is your point of order?

Sen. M. Kajwang’, what you are explaining to the Senate Majority Leader is that Sen. M. Kajwang’ did not speak about the entire people of Nyamira County. He spoke about two assemblies, and that is factual.

Sen. M. Kajwang’, what you are explaining to the Senate Majority Leader is that Sen. M. Kajwang’ did not speak about the entire people of Nyamira County. He spoke about two assemblies, and that is factual.

Madam Temporary Speaker, I just wanted to inform my good friend, Senator for Homa Bay County, that the reason we have put Kshs387 billion as the baseline is to save eight counties that were going to lose money, a county that is at the risk of losing Kshs2.2 billion if...

Give him one minute to finish what he was saying.

On a point or order, Madam Temporary Speaker.

Sen. Mundigi, can you explain what you are saying? What is Wamunyoro and what is your point of order?

Sen. Mundigi, can you explain what you are saying? What is Wamunyoro and what is your point of order?

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, I will give an exception to this. Explain in Kiswahii.

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, to the extent that you have suggested that a Senator is at a place called Wamunyoro, please withdraw and continue with the debate.

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, to the extent that you have suggested that a Senator is at a place called Wamunyoro, please withdraw and continue with the debate.

Just name who the crooks are.

Madam Temporary Speaker, I have been supporting Nyandarua in the absence of my son, but now he would like to inform me.

Sen. Methu, you can inform Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale.

Order, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale. Can you finish your debate? Your time is actually up.

Order, Senators, can we listen, please. Sen. (Dr.) Murango, please, order!

Your time is up. I add you one minute to conclude.

Order, Senators.

Sen. Omogeni and your team, you are actually too loud.

Sen. Mungatana, if you have not finished, you will have a balance of eight minutes to conclude. ADJOURNMENT

Sen. Mandago.

Sen. Wamatinga, please proceed.

Sen. Osotsi, do you have a point of order?

Who is seconding that Motion?

Hon. Senators, I will now put the question. (Question put and agreed to) (Debate on the Motion was adjourned) Let us move on to the next Order. THE BUSINESS LAWS (AMENDMENT) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.51 OF 2024) Proceed, Sen. Osotsi.

Hon. Senators, there is no other speaker. I would like to thank Sen. Osotsi for your contribution to this Bill. This debate can continue tomorrow. ADJOURNMENT

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker, for the opportunity to also make my contribution on the Division of Revenue Bill (National Assembly Bills No. of 2025) . Madam Temporary Speaker, this is one of our most important undertakings as Senators to ensure that we truly protect devolution. Our Constitution is clear...

Next is Sen. Omogeni.

Hon. Senators, it is now 6.30 p.m., time to adjourn the Senate. Sen. Osotsi will have a balance of 10 minutes when we resume. The Senate, therefore, stands adjourned until tomorrow, Wednesday, 21st May, 2025 at 9.30 a.m. The Senate rose at 6.30 p.m.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, thank you for giving me the opportunity to ask a question. I will begin by declaring interest. I am a parent of a person with a disability, so I take these issues very seriously. Also, indulge me for just a minute to say that I have read...

Order, Sen. Eddy, please sit down. What you are raising was raised by Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale and the Speaker on the Chair made a ruling on that. (Sen. Oketch Gicheru stood up in his seat) Sen. Eddy, please, sit down. It is my decision that we finish the questions, and...

Please, table it. Secretariat, hand it over to the CS. (Sen. Sifuna laid the documents on the Table) We will have Sen. Maanzo for the next Question. Question 033 MANAGEMENT AND UTILISATION OF THE TOBACCO CONTROL FUND

Sen. Maanzo, please, sit down. What we are doing is unprocedural. Let the Cabinet Secretary finish, and then, if you have anything additional, you will bring it in your supplementary question. Cabinet Secretary, have you finished? Please finish. The Cabinet Secretary for Health (Hon. Adan Duale) : Madam Temporary Speaker,...

Secretariat, I direct that this Question be rescheduled with all the aspects that have been raised by the Members. Let us move on to the supplementary questions by those who submitted the Questions. Sen. (Prof.) Ojienda had delegated to Sen. Faki. Sen. Faki, please, proceed.

We will ask a number of questions before you answer, Cabinet Secretary (CS) . Sen. Orwoba, please proceed.

You have asked your supplementary question. (Sen. Orwoba spoke off record) Order, Sen. Orwoba! Sen. Eddy, please, proceed.

Sen. Eddy, I have ruled. Please, sit down. It is one question and you have asked it. Sen. Oketch Gicheru I will just ask in 30 seconds. Okay, proceed.

Proceed, Sen. Miraj.

Sen. Miraj. you should have asked the question. (Interruption of debate on Statements) COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR VISITING DELEGATION FROM KIBURU BOYS HIGH SCHOOL Kirinyaga County. The delegation comprises three teachers and 49 students who are in the Senate for a one day academic exposition.Hon. Senators, in our usual tradition...

Sen. Kavindu, I would like you to ask your question, please. Ask the question.

Senator, please follow the rules. Just ask the question.

No, no, no. Senator, can we move on? Sen. Mandago, please. Sen. Kavindu Muthama, please respect the Chair.

Sen. Dullo, ask the question.

What is your point of order, Sen. Eddy? What is the issue with you?

Sen. Eddy, please sit down. I have ruled on that question.

Sen. Eddy, can you sit down? You are being a nuisance. Sen. Cherarkey, one minute. (Sen. Orwoba spoke off record) Order, Sen. Orwoba. You are not co-chairing with me.

Order! Sen. Eddy.

Sen. Korir, what is your point of order? (Loud consultations) If you experience any system-related issues, call our call centre at 147, available 24/7, with no call charges. Previously, call receiving took two minutes, but now, once you call, your call is received. We will soon start calling back Kenyans...

Hon. Senators, having concluded the business for which I extended the day's sitting, the Senate stands adjourned until later today, Wednesday, 14th May, 2025 at 2.30 p.m. The Senate rose at 1.15 p.m.

On a point of information, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I think I have a right to choose the language that I want. So, allow me to do so.

Bw. Spika wa Muda, acha nijaribu. Asante sana, Sen. Kinyua, kwa kukubali nikujulishe. Ningependa kufahamisha Seneti kwamba hili suala halikuangaziwa na Kamati ya Ugatuzi na Mahusiano ya Kiserikali pekee. Spika aliamuru kuwa Kamati ya Haki, Masuala ya Kisheria na Haki za Kibinadamu iangalie mambo ya kisheria yanayohusiana na mambo ya...

Committee on Justice, Legal Affairs and Human Rights is also preparing to examine this issue. I urge all of us to converge and understand that no Committee is unwilling to get to the bottom of the truth of this matter.As a House, we need to come together and take necessary...

Please allow the Senator one minute to conclude.

Next is Sen. Mwaruma.

Sen. Omogeni, you should have an interest in listening, but you are talking.

Please add him one more minute to finish.

Sen. Eddy Oketch Gicheru, the Senator for Migori County, please proceed.

Sen. Eddy, I would suggest you do not insinuate anything that you may not be able to substantiate.

Sen. Omogeni, you may proceed.

It is so deferred. (Putting of the Question on the Motion as amended deferred) Next Order. Sen. Mwaruma?

Sen. Mwaruma, kindly prepare a statement to submit to the House, so that the Committee can pick it up because as the Senator for Taita Taveta, you have the nitty gritties you would want the committee to pay attention to. You can proceed and we will guide the Committee accordingly....

Hon. Senators, it is now 6.30 p.m., time to adjourn the Senate. The Senate, therefore, stands adjourned until tomorrow, Thursday, 15th May, 2025 at 2.30 p.m. Sen. Sigei, you have three and a half minutes left before you finish. The Senate rose at 6.30 p.m.