Khalwale Boni

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, Pursuant to Standing Order No. (1) , I hereby present the business of the Senate for the week commencing Tuesday, 31st October, 2023. As you are aware, in accordance with the Senate Calendar approved on 16th February, 2023, the Senate will proceed on a one-week recess...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I just wanted to appeal for your support on the need for us to conclude business. Since this is a fairly straightforward Motion and I am representing majority of the Members this afternoon, I want to plead that you to allow me to respond on behalf...

On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, it is a question of procedure, practice and etiquette. It is starting to occur that you need to give further guidance to Members of this House. Speaking from the dispatch box is reserved for the leadership of the House. It is called practice and etiquette. You...

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. This is a Bill that should have long been worked on by the previous Parliaments. This is not a problem that has just happened in this country, starting with the life of this 13th Parliament. So, in a way, this is a Bill that is...

Well put, Madam Temporary Speaker. She could very easily have made that argument when she is making her contribution. When you are contributing, Senator, you will say all those things. I am speaking beyond your community, your understanding of life and beyond your professional qualifications. Therefore, you should drink from...

Madam Temporary Speaker, I know she will give me the information when she is responding to this. So, she has ample time to reply. When you are replying, you will comment to all these things that we are saying. Okay, proceed. Madam Temporary Speaker, we are trying to help so...

Madam Temporary Speaker, I congratulate you and thank you for your balanced ruling. This reminds me of the words of the people of the English language who normally tell us that ignorance is bliss. I was speaking to the thin line, and indeed, it is very thin. What do you...

No.51?

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like to persuade you, that the point of order raised by the Senate Majority Leader has merit. The reason the Senator of Vihiga County was challenged is because he was making allegations. We wanted him to move from allegations to giving evidence. The tradition of...

(Loud consultations) I am an experienced Member of Parliament in this country. That much I know. (Laughter) Secondly, I am aware that reports from the media do not make parts of what can move a Senator to convince the House on any Motion. I am also aware that a matter,...

Order, Senators. Sen. Mungatana, as the Chairperson, I will give you an opportunity to speak after Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale. Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, there is a cardinal rule that he who alleges proves. So, do not feel like you are being pushed far, you are already there.

Secondly, I am aware that reports from the media do not make parts of what can move a Senator to convince the House on any Motion. I am also aware that a matter, which is in public domain, can form part of the reason of moving this House. Allow me...

What is your point of order, Sen. Cherarkey? (Loud consultations) (Laughter)(Laughter) Sen. Mungatana, as you mention names, try to be specific. (Laughter)

Hon. Members are saying five minutes. Let us do seven minutes so that we balance between those who are saying 10 and five minutes. If we can do seven minutes each then, they can explain themselves. (Loud consultations)

Order, Sen. Cherarkey! Can you follow the correct protocols of this House? (Sen. Cherarkey bowed to the Chair) Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. As colleagues will realize, the Schedule indicates the counties that are beneficiaries. There is an indication of some of the constituencies and the wards within those counties...

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. It is a great honour for me to be allowed to, not only acknowledge their presence, but also to reassure them that--- (Sen. Cherarkey consulted loudly)

compliance of Article 204. That is water, electricity, health services and I think one or two other things.While it may be possible in certain counties, by view of the county headquarters and the figures that they generate, you may think that development is equally spread out. Yes, there are counties...

I am contributing, but you do not need to agree with it. That is the essence of debate. My point is if you go to a country like Canada, they take into account the physical capacity of a Government. If you go to Narok County which is benefitting from this...

none. Look at the rivers flowing through the County of Kericho then go to Mandera County and see how many streams are there. You cannot compare.The point we are making is the intention of enacting Article 204 of the Constitution was to uplift counties that were left behind by the...

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I thank Sen. Omogeni for giving me the honour to second this very important Motion. When this Committee was constituted, there was a lot of suspicion and bad blood between the two sides at the dialogue. With time, things have normalized and therefore, it gives...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I hear you, but maybe you need to guide us slightly more. Our understanding is that before you are allowed to read a Statement, the Statement goes through due diligence. So even in the process of due diligence, the distinguished Senator was not able to convince the...

Madam Temporary Speaker, I rise on Standing Order No.105. Did you hear the Senator of Siaya County confess to the criminal offence of corruption and further tell the House that he was actually a beneficiary of the proceeds of corruption of Chepkube coffee? Could he substantiate, and if he so...

Madam Temporary Speaker, Members of this House are not allowed to mislead the public or state falsehoods on the Floor. Did you hear the Senator for Siaya County say that footballers come from Nyanza?

Madam Temporary Speaker, may I remind him that Elijah Lidonde was not from Nyanza; he was from Ikolomani. Joe Kadenge was not from Nyanza; he was from Hamisi.

the Government side should hold hands with those in the opposition side when a matter requires we close ranks.The people who are perpetrators of this con game must be pursued to the logical conclusion and they are known. As I speak today, Boniface Sunguti Ichingwa, son of Ichingwa from Malinya...

On a point of order, Madam Temporary Speaker, I rise again on Standing Order No.105 just like Sen. Sifuna. However, as I appealed this is not a Government or Opposition problem. We have this Motion because there is a humanitarian crisis. Even to ask the Senator of Kiambu to substantiate...

Madam Temporary Speaker, if there is need for substantiation the police through a press release have just tabulated the names of the senior officers that the Senator of Kiambu is speaking to. They include the kind of players he is talking about.

Madam Temporary Speaker, I speak to this document which is now public. They are speaking to the former Deputy Commissioner, former Deputy County Officer, former Officer OCPD Mavoko and former Director Criminal Investigations (DCI) ---

statements. They have opened up a desk to register the people and the identities of those who conned them. They have said that starting from---Madam Temporary Speaker, can I read the names now? statements. They have opened up a desk to register the people and the identities of those who...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, I knew it. I second. (Laughter) An Hon. Senator: Ulijueko!

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I agree with the Cabinet Secretary that just to give a general answer for the whole country is ambiguous and yet we want to be specific. Could the Cabinet Secretary help us? We have Locations and Sub-locations where the interviews have already been done,...

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I thank the Leader of Majority for giving me the honour to second this very game changer of a Bill. I could not be a better choice. I am one of the few Members in this Senate and in the National Assembly who is an expert...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, you know I only have five minutes.

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, what more would you require the Senator to substantiate? He has already stated the fact. It is upon the relevant Committee to proceed and swing into action. The good Senator has told you exactly what he saw in Nyamira. Sen. Omogeni, proceed to conclude your contribution on...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for the honour. I take this opportunity to warmly welcome the delegation. I hope they are going to find their visit to the Senate fruitful. I urge them to visit all the corners of the Senate and, if possible, talk to the leadership of the...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I beg to lay the following Paper on the table of Senate, today, 5th October, 2023- The annual report of the National Police Service Commission for the Financial Year 2022/2023. I thank you. (Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale laid the documents on the Table)

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise to make a Statement on behalf of the Senate Majority Leader on the business of the Senate for the week commencing 10th October, 2023. Pursuant to Standing Order No.57 (1) , I hereby present the business of the Senate for the week commencing...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. with your indulgence, before I respond, please allow me to thank His Excellency the President on behalf of the people of Kakamega, Shinyalu Constituency, Ileo village for making history in our community. He has appointed Amb. Fredrick Matwan’ga as Kenya’s High Commissioner in Italy. We...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I am properly guided. However, the way I read the Standing Orders is that the pressure arises if you mention somebody adversely or the name of someone who cannot defend himself on the Floor of the House.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have a history in this country. I have dealt with those mandarins at the National Treasury. In fact, the country sometimes remembers me for the work I have done at the National Treasury. It is ridiculous that somebody can sit and award a county Kshs100. Even...

However, I am a responsible State officer who understands the principle of collective responsibility.

I will look like the most stupid State officer if I fail to use other channels open to me to pursue this matter and instead make pronouncements here. For that reason---

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am properly guided. My younger brother, Sen. M. Kajwang’, whom I campaigned for in Kendu Bay and Ndhiwa in Homa Bay, when his brother, who was almost my age and used to sit over there passed away, would love for me to draw blood. Mr. Speaker,...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I want to apologize---

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I strongly support this Motion. There is no greater urgency to debunk the lie that our towns are not ripe for city status than to give you the example of the Republic of Estonia. Estonia has a population of 1.3 million people only. It...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, if I heard correctly from the Senator for Homa Bay, he was challenging me on the Standing Order of relevance. Had he been listening, I was talking about population, where we have made a useless law that says if a town does not reach 250,000 people,...

On a point of order, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. What is your point of order Senate Majority Whip? Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I stand under Standing Order No.105 to appeal to my colleague that even if he has grounds for substantiation, let this Motion bring us together and contribute towards...

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. Five minutes is short for one to speak on instability in Turkana County and in Sondu. Allow me to dwell on Sondu because of the active nature of what is happening there. The youth politicians are the problem in Sondu. Before politicians go to...

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I hope you are holding my time. Hon. Senator, through the Temporary Speaker, this arrogance and entitlement that if a Luo is dying, then I am a Luo Senator, I should be seen to be shouting the most, does not make you a better advocate of...

Point of order, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. Point of order on who? There is nobody on the Floor. Senator, there is nobody on the Floor. Point of order, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. What is your point of order Majority Whip? Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise under Standing Order 105 to...

On a Point of Order, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. What is your point of order, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale? Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the Standing Orders are clear that a Member shall not impute improper motives to another. I understand her naivety and that she is a green horn. She is...

On a point of order, Madam Temporary Speaker. What is your point of order, Sen. (Dr) Khalwale? Madam Temporary Speaker, I very well understand the concerns of the Senator for Nandi County. However, the communication that explained that the Cabinet Secretary for Youth Affairs, Sports and the Arts was unable...

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. Allow me to congratulate the Cabinet Secretary. He is one of the Cabinet Secretaries who take our calls and call us. Hon. Cabinet Secretary, before I ask you my question, allow me to invite you to the provisions of Article 35 of the Constitution, specifically...

12,000 kilometres.

On a point of order, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. What is your point of order, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale? Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I hate to interrupt my young colleague, but did you hear him say that there are Senators here who are protecting governors who are corrupt? I rise under...

Mr. Temporary Speaker---

Yes, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. What is it? Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for your indulgence. The issue raised by the Chair of CPISFC and by the Senator for Kiambu County who is also a Member of CPISFC is monumental. They need to make a formal submission to the...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for that privilege. It is a fact that I am the Senator for Kakamega County, but a good neighbour of Kisumu County. I take this opportunity to welcome our visitors. I wish to inform them that your Senator, Sen. (Prof.) Tom Ojienda Odhiambo, SC, is...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. This Petition which I support is a wakeup call and food for thought. A wake up call to the extent that we realize the need to amend the Constitution and make it more user friendly. When affirmative action was introduced in the Constitution, it was...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table of the Senate, today 4th October, 2023- Annual Report of the Public Service Commission (PSC) for Financial Year 2022/2023. Annual Report of the National Cohesion and Integration Commission (NCIC) for Financial Year 2021/2022. Office of...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, we are still on statements pursuant to Standing Order No.52.

What is your point of order, Sen. Mwaruma?

Let us move to Statements pursuant to Standing Order No. 53 (1) . The Statement for Sen. James Murango is dropped.

Proceed, Sen. Wafula.

Thank you. Proceed, Majority Leader.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker Sir. Indeed, this was a great experience in many ways; our own way of life, how people earn their own livelihood, but more importantly, the role of the Senate to county governments. Whereas everything that we did went on in a seamless manner, I see an...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I thank you for that communication. I also congratulate Sen. Orwoba for her humility because before that order, she has been observing the decisions of this House. That said Mr. Speaker, Sir, could you clarify to whom that order was directed? (Applause)

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I wish to add my voice to the comments pertaining to the land in Pumwani. I urge the Committee to take this matter very seriously. It is about time Kenyans realize that not every Kenyan can own a piece of land. Two, Kenyans must subject...

On a point of order, Madam Temporary Speaker. What is your point of order, hon. Senator? Madam Temporary Speaker, Sen. Mungatana is one of the ranking Members is this House and he is moving a Motion which is different from the one that we have on the Order Paper. Could...

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. The House will recall that we were part of the team that envisaged the creation of this ad hoc Committee. It gives me a lot of pleasure to see that this Committee was necessary. Now that the Committee is coming at the tail end of...

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for giving me this opportunity to reply. I take this opportunity to thank the Members of this House who have contributed to this extension of days. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, we have met several stakeholders, including the victims. We also called their lawyers in...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise to Move the County Governments Additional Allocations Bill (National Assembly Bills No. 23 of 2023) to be read a Second Time. This is a Bill which I hope will establish an Act of Parliament to provide for additional allocations to the county governments for the...

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. My apologies, Sir. Sen. Nyamu shot out of her seat so fast that I failed to conclude. Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. This Bill is another clear indication of the commitment of the Kenya Kwanza Government to entrench devolution in this country. This...

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I agree with your ruling. However, as you correctly say that she has been informed, are we sure? Is that information accurate? This additional allocation is money from the World Bank and donor community. We know that the World Bank and donor community projects have been...

Thank you, Madam Temporary Chairperson. Allow me to persuade the Chairperson of the Committee. We have put a lot of thought into this. The amendment by Sen. Mungatana is supported by many of us. What you are saying is not going to help the Bill. We are curing the mischief...

On a point of order, Madam Temporary Chairperson. The Temporary Chairperson (

On a point of procedure, because we will vote at the end of what we are doing, I would encourage the Chair that when he proposes an amendment, he speaks to it so that the House can know what they will be voting on. He should speak at least two...

Not a question. I wanted to comment on the proposed amendment by Sen. Mbugua. I was worried that since Sen. Mungatana’s proposal is catered for, it might be detrimental to the proposed amendment by Sen. Mbugua. Sen. Mbugua’s amendment is an improvement on the Bill because PWD, as you know,...

Not a question. I wanted to comment on the proposed amendment by Sen. Mbugua. I was worried that since Sen. Mungatana’s proposal is catered for, it might be detrimental to the proposed amendment by Sen. Mbugua. Sen. Mbugua’s amendment is an improvement on the Bill because PWD, as you know,...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table of the Senate, today, 27th September, 2023- Report of the Standing Committee on Finance and Budget on the County Governments Additional Allocations Bill (National Assembly Bills No.23 of 2023) . Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir....

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker Sir. Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, what is your point of order? Mr. Chairman, Sir, just a small matter of procedure. Since this might attract a lot of interest, I request that we limit debate to five minutes.

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. The Constitution of Kenya 2010, divides the Fourth Schedule into two parts. Part I assigns functions to the national Government and Part II to the county governments. Due to the provisions in Clauses 13 and 14, we might like it or hate it, this...

This is serious. They will go ahead to say, “In fact, that 18- year-old girl I have known from the record, has sickle cell.” The moment you tell them the girl has sickle cell, intelligent parents will google and the girl will be denied an opportunity to marry because she...

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the people of Kakamega County are happy that the Cabinet Secretary has given us the respect to come all the way to respond to this very important Question.

Yes, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir.

Hon. Cabinet Secretary? The Cabinet Secretary for Mining, Blue Economy and Maritime Affairs (Hon. Mvurya) : Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. It is true that the Government of Kenya imposed a moratorium on licenses in 2019. The reason given that time was to be able to have an opportunity...