Atandi Samuel Onunga

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table: Reports of the Budget and Appropriations Committee on its consideration of:

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I beg to lay the following paper on the Table: Report of the Budget and Appropriations Committee on its consideration of the County Allocation of Revenue Bill (Senate Bill No.9 of 2025) . Thank you, Hon. Speaker.

Hon. Speaker, thank you very much for making that clarification. I beg to move that this House adopts the Report of the Budget and Appropriations Committee on its consideration of the County Allocation of Revenue Bill (Senate Bill No.9 of 2025) , laid on the Table of the House on...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I beg to move that the County Allocation of Revenue Bill (Senate Bill No.9 of 2025) be now read a Second Time. Hon. Speaker, as you have rightfully said, this is a very simple Bill which basically deals with the horizontal sharing of county allocation to...

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Before I reply, let me take this opportunity to thank Members for engaging in this debate vigorously. I have listened to your submissions, especially those asking for county governments to give the people of Kenya value for their money. I agree with them...

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move that the House reports its consideration of the County Allocation of Revenue Bill (Senate Bill No.9 of 2025) and its approval thereof without amendments. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) (The House resumed) IN THE HOUSE [The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma)...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said Report. I request Hon. Muchira to second the Motion.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the County Allocation of Revenue Bill (Senate Bill No.5 of 2025) be now read a Third Time. I request Hon. Makali Mulu to second.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I would like to request that this Bill be deferred to another date. I am waiting for you to justify your request that we defer transacting this business listed in the Order Paper to a future date. Hon. Temporary Speaker, the Committee on Budget and Appropriations has...

I beg to move: THAT, the Schedule be amended with respect to Kitui County by deleting the word “Kisumu” appearing in column B and substituting thereof with the word “Kitui”. Hon. Temporary Chairlady, in the Schedule in Column B, which outlines the counties and constituencies that are supposed to benefit...

Thank you very much for that clarification. What we are correcting is basically a clean-up. However, for the benefit of Hon. Nyikal, I would like to inform him that Kisumu County is also a beneficiary of the Equalisation Fund. In Kisumu County, the sub-counties that will benefit are Muhuroni and...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I request Hon. (Dr) James Nyikal to second the Motion for agreement with the report of the Committee of the whole House.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the Equalisation Fund Appropriation Bill (National Assembly Bill No.21 of 2025) be now read a Third Time. I request Hon. (Dr) James Nyikal to second.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to move the following Motion: THAT, this House adopts the Report of the Budget and Appropriations Committee on its consideration of the Third Supplementary Estimates for the Financial FIRST SCHEDULE THIRD SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES FOR FY 2024/2025 (IN KSHS) FIRST SCHEDULE: SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES III FOR FY 2024/25...

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I thank you for giving me the opportunity to reply. I also appreciate the Members who have raised various concerns. I thank the Members who have responded to the concerns raised by Hon. TJ Kajwang’. (Loud consultations)

I will allow you to move an amendment to this Report so that you can introduce the NGAAF allocation. With the permission of the Chairperson, you can move your amendment. Some members have raised concerns about the cuts, particularly those affecting housing. They are programmes that have not been tendered....

Hon. Deputy Speaker, with those many remarks, I reply. Thank you. THE SUPPLEMENTARY APPROPRIATION (NO. 2) BILL Where has the Chairman of the Budget and Appropriations Committee disappeared to? Hon Atandi. (Loud consultations) Hon. Deputy Speaker, there is a lot of noise in the Chamber. (Members stood along the gangways)

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to move that the Supplementary Appropriation (No. 2) Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 26 of 2025) be now read a Second Time. This is the same Bill which we have just passed. Therefore, I do not want to belabour the points. The Bill gives the...

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move: THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting clause 5 and substituting therefor the following new clause— The supply granted for the services of the year ending on 30th June 2025, in respect of Votes R1014, R1015, R1032, R1054, R1064, R1072, R1082, R1091, R1092,...

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move: THAT, the First Schedule to the Bill be deleted and replaced with the following new Schedule— FIRST SCHEDULE

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. Hon. (Dr) Makali… The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) : Hon. Chair, I will give a chance first to the Leader of the Majority Party, and then I will come back to you.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. Hon. (Dr) Makali is a competent Member of the Budget and Appropriations Committee. Unfortunately, he was not with us when we were processing the Supplementary Estimates. Having said that, I would like to explain the changes we are making. The First Schedule contained votes that...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I beg to move: THAT, Clause 2 of the Bill be amended by deleting the words “Forty-Nine Billion Three Hundred Ninety Million Nine Hundred and Seven Thousand Nine Hundred Thirteen, appearing after the words “the sum of” and substituting therefor the words “Fifty-Two Billion Seven...

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report.

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to move that the Supplementary Appropriation (No.2) Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 26 of 2025) be now read a Third Time. I request my able deputy to second.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, the House adopts the Report of the Budget and Appropriations Committee on its consideration of the Third Supplementary Estimates for the

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I beg to move the following Motion: THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 120, this House resolves to reduce the publication period of the Supplementary Appropriation (No.2) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.26 of 2025) from seven days to one day. We have roughly four...

I request the Leader of the Majority Party to second.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to move the following Motion: THAT, taking into consideration the findings of the Budget and Appropriations Committee in its report on the consideration of the Fourth Basis for revenue sharing for county governments, laid on the Table of the House on Thursday, 19th June 2025, and...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. What we are discussing before the House is the Fourth Basis for the national revenue sharing. Since the promulgation of the new Constitution, we have had three national revenue sharing formulas. This is the fourth. Every five years, a new formula is developed where the national...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I would like to thank the Members for debating this Bill in the manner that they have, more particularly, offering very strong criticism of the Bill. The Report that I have just tabled…. (Hon. Gathoni Wamuchomba stood along the gangways) Is that Hon. Gathoni Wamuchomba?...

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following paper on the Table: Report of the Budget and Appropriations Committee on its Consideration of the Fourth Basis for Revenue Sharing for County Governments. Thank you.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, taking into consideration the findings of the Budget and Appropriations Committee in its report on the consideration of the Fourth Basis for revenue sharing for county governments, laid on the Table of the House on Thursday, 19th June...

Yes, agreed. Thursday next week? Yes, I am in agreement.

I beg to move the following Motion: THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Article 113 (2) of the Constitution and Standing Order 150 (3) , this House adopts the Report of the Mediation Committee on the Division of Revenue Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 10 of 2025) , laid on...

Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. Let me take this opportunity to thank Members of this House who have made their contributions on this important Bill. This Bill is important in the Budget process because without the passage of this Bill, we cannot appropriate. With the support I have received...

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move: THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting the Schedule and substituting therefore the following new Schedule— SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SCHEDULE CLASS SUB TOTAL SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SCHEDULE CLASS SUB TOTAL CLUSTER SUB TOTAL SCHEDULE SCHEDULE CLASS SUB TOTAL CLASS SUB TOTAL...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I request Hon. (Dr) Pukose to second the Motion.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the Appropriation Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 23 of 2025) be now read a Third Time. I request Hon. (Dr) Pukose to second.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table: Report of the Budget and Appropriations Committee on its consideration of The Equalisation Fund Appropriation Bill (National Assembly Bill No.21 of 2025) .

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table: Report of the Mediation Committee on the Division of Revenue Bill (National

Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Article 113 (2) of the Constitution and Standing Order 150 (3) , this House adopts the Report of the Mediation Committee on the Division of Revenue Bill (National Assembly Bill No.10 of 2025)...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I agree. Until Parliament becomes bold enough to intervene on some of these zero-rated products, we are not going to make good progress. As a Budget and Appropriations Committee, one of our recommendations that are geared towards realising our revenue targets is to scrap most of these...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I oppose that amendment. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’) : Which one? The amendment where we are zero- rating the raw materials. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’) : Go ahead. Before we go on, I want to make an observation. That point which was raised...

Hon. Chairman, the amendment is good, but we may be giving KRA resources they do not need. When we were considering the budget, KRA appeared before us, through the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning, but they never told us that they needed this excessive amount of money. What...

The Chairman is my friend. When we first joined Parliament, we sat together on the Finance Committee. I fully understand the explanation he is offering to justify this specific fund for KRA. Hon. Temporary Chairman, you are also a Member of the Budget and Appropriation Committee. When the Chairman appeared...

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Let me also join my colleagues in appreciating the competence and the leadership of the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning, my brother, CPAK Kimani Kuria, who has ably led it since we joined this Parliament. For the first...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I beg to move that the Appropriation Bill (National Assembly Bill No.23 of 2025) be now read a Second Time. This Bill authorises the issuance of funds from the Consolidated Fund to finance the national Government expenditure for the 2025/ 2026 Financial Year. It was...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I thank Members for their participation and contributions to the Bill. I want to react to a few issues that they raised. Dr Makali Mulu questioned how we will raise the Ksh10 billion that we have added to the county shareable allocations. For the first...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the Equalisation Fund Appropriation Bill (National Assembly Bill No.21 of 2025) be now read a Second Time. This Bill was published on 12th June 2025 and introduced in the National Assembly on 17th June 2025. It was referred to the Budget and...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. With your kind permission, I would like to donate one minute to Dr Makali Mulu to make one point. One minute, please.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, once again, let me donate another one minute to Hon. Jematiah.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I would like to thank all the Members who have contributed to this Bill and expressed support for the Bill. Hon. Members, I have listened to the issues that have been raised by some Members, including the kind of priority projects that are being implemented...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I support the Kenya Roads (Amendment) Bill, which is before us. Like most Members have already pointed out, the law went against the Mwongozo Code of Governance, also tied to that amendment was the fact that the Act was changed to allow for non-engineers to be the...

Hon. Chairlady, before I respond, I would like to ask Hon. Tongoyo, the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security, to respond briefly and then I will conclude.

Thank you, Hon. Chairlady. We have really rationalised this Vote. If you remember, the previous office holder used to have Ksh5 billion in this office. We have only Ksh3 billion today. This is a constitutional office. The Office of the Deputy President of the Republic of Kenya assists the President...

Hon. Chairlady, you know the Speaker may have approved it, but it did not pass through the Budget and Appropriations Committee, as has been explained by the Leader of the Majority Party. So, the amendment is rejected and it falls.

Hon. Chairlady, let me just repeat myself. This particular amendment did not pass through our Committee. It was not processed through the Budget and Appropriations Committee. Therefore, I urge you to decline the proposed amendment.

THAT, Vote 1041 (Ministry of Defence) under the Programme 0801000 Defence be amended by deleting the expression “Ksh195,991,900,000” appearing in Column 6 (Gross Current Estimates) and substituting, therefor, the expression “Ksh184,991,900,000.” We are rationalising the budget for the Ministry of Defence because we realised that we had given them more...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, the allocations under TVETs are justified. We have provided resources that are necessary to enhance infrastructure in TVETs. I am aware of a communication circulating on short message service (SMS) to the effect that TVET allocations have been cut. That is not the situation. I wish to...

Let me start with the exam fee. The Government is currently engaged. As a House, we allocated Ksh5.9 billion for exams, knowing very well that it is not enough. We need about Ksh11 billion for examinations. But we know that the exams are not administered at once. There will be...

I have an amendment. Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move: THAT, the Schedule be amended in Vote 1071 (The National Treasury) — VOTE 1072 - STATE DEPARTMENT FOR ECONOMIC PLANNING

Hon. Temporary Chairman, Hon. Oundo likes to play politics with this budget process. Hon. Oundo, you know that you are my brother. There is an opinion poll that comes at the end of the year about how many times somebody has spoken on this Floor. I urge you not to...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. I would like to thank Hon. Nyikal for that submission. I would also like to add that for the UHC workers, I can assure them that the money that has been allocated for their confirmation into permanent and pensionable is here. It is reserved. Therefore,...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, we have the list which we can avail to the Hon. Member. It consists of all ongoing roads whose budgets have been cut substantially. We felt that if the monies are not brought back, then the roads will continue to stall. We can provide the list.The Temporary...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I undertake to table the list. (Programme 0202000 as amended agreed to) (Vote 1091 as amended agreed to) VOTE 1092 - STATE DEPARTMENT FOR TRANSPORT

Hon. Temporary Chairman, those projects are being implemented by the water authorities which have more technical capacity, including the number of engineers, compared to the county governments. Some counties do not even have technical officers. For now, the water authorities are best placed to implement those programme that we have...

The question by Hon. Mary Emaase is about the removed Ksh530 million. The money was for paying a pending bill. We realised the Committee justified that the money was not sufficient. Therefore, the money was transferred to cater for electricity to public institutions. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’) :...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, thank you very much for that protection. Indeed, this is a policy issue. I must say that it is unfortunate that, that Board has not been properly funded to function. They had asked us for about Ksh500 million, but we were only able to give them Ksh50...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, let me say this is a policy issue. The Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Agriculture and Livestock would have been in the best place to respond to that issue. I hope I have satisfied the Members. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’) : Thank you. Members,...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, the total amount allocated for the Tsetse flies and Trypanosomiasis is Ksh100 million. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’) : Hon. Caroli, you need to check that as I put the Question. (Programme 0112000 agreed to) (Vote 1162 agreed to) VOTE 1166 – STATE DEPARTMENT FOR THE...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. I beg to move: THAT, the First Schedule be amended in Vote 1169 (State Department for Agriculture) under the 0108000 Crop Development and Management, by deleting the expression “Ksh20, 166,811,411” appearing in Column 7 (Gross Capital Estimates) and substituting therefor the expression “Ksh20, 316,811,411” I...

Hon. Mary is right that so many elderly people have not been on-boarded. Also, many elderly people have died and their numbers have decreased. I can assure you that, as the process of on-boarding takes off, the budget will be reinstated. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’) : Okay. (Programmes...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I plead with you to save me from that policy question. It is not within the scope of the budget. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’) : I know Hon. Oundo would only come to the Floor with a proper question to the relevant Committee. Why would...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I confirm that there is Ksh1.86 billion in this Budget for human-wildlife compensation. I believe the relevant Members of Parliament will pursue compensation for their constituents once this Budget is passed. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’) : Correct. Thank you. Address the same before the relevant...

Hon. Chairman, I want to confirm that this is the Vote where the National Government Affirmative Action Fund (NGAAF) falls, but I can see that there is no woman representative in the House. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’) : There is none. In future, when they complain that their...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. I appreciate the contributions from Members. The amount you see here of Ksh841 million is an enhancement by Ksh100 million and so, the Budget and Appropriations Committee is doing something. I have also taken note of the Members’ comments. We will continue to enhance it...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, there is a lot of intervention from the donor community in matters of afforestation, and money that is not captured in our Estimates. From the Estimates Vote under the State Department for Forestry, we have about Ksh1.5 billion that is meant for afforestation. The Temporary Chairman (Hon....

Hon. Temporary Chairman, the Auditor- General works for this House. When they appeared before us, they also complained that this House amends their audit reports. They indicated that, sometimes, they bring stinging reports, but we end up amending them. In my opinion, the blame game is on both sides. In...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, it has been established that the Judiciary is not very good at doing some of those infrastructure projects. That is the truth. I think it is a Commission that should just focus on dispensing justice. The extent of their engagement in building their courts has become a...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. In terms of budgetary allocations, the Budget and Appropriations Committee oversees the Parliamentary Service Commission (PSC) because they come to defend their budget before us. To an extent, we do only that oversight. There is no other oversight we engage in. The only engagement we...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I have taken note of the Members’ concerns about the Senate Vote. I partly agree with them that, other than the Senator for Siaya, Dr Oburu Odinga, who is doing a very good job as a Senator, the other Senators are too young and they need to...

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Report of the Committee of Supply in its consideration of the Budget Estimates for the year 2025/2026 and, pursuant to the provisions of Article 221 of the Constitution, Section 39 of the Public Finance Management Act,...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I thank you for giving me this opportunity to reply. Before I reply, let me first of all thank Members of this House for debating this Report vigorously and raising some fundamental issues, which the Budget and Appropriations Committee has taken note of. Some of the issues...

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table: Report of the Budget and Appropriations Committee on its consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the Financial Year 2025/2026 and the Medium Term and the Compendium of Departmental Committee Reports on the consideration of...

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, this House adopts the Report of the Budget and Appropriations Committee on its consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure and the Medium Term for the Financial Year 2025/2026 laid on the Table of the House...

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Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I beg to move: THAT, this House adopts the Report of the Budget and Appropriations Committee on its consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure and the Medium-Term for the Financial Year 2025/2026, laid on the Table of the House on Wednesday, 4th June...

Yes, Busia also, thank you, Mheshimiwa. This Ksh5 billion allocation will support blue economy projects along Lake Victoria and the Indian Ocean. We have allocated resources for the Transformative Affordable Housing programme, which aims to ensure that low-income Kenyans can afford decent housing. This is one of the major programmes...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, it is not my intention to disrupt my brother and neighbour, Hon. (Dr) Oundo. However, is it in order for him to belittle this House by claiming that we do not have the power to make a budget? It is very clear that budget-making is the mandate...