Kimani Francis Kuria

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)Hon. Temporary Chairman, I wish to withdraw the proposed amendment to clause 20.(Proposed amendment by Hon. Kuria Kimani withdrawn)(Clause 20 agreed to)(Clauses 21, 22 and 23 agreed to)Clause 24 Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, the amendments that this House has processed in terms of those clauses are mostly providing for ensuring strict adherence to Mwongozo directives. Again, the terms of this particular institute, whether it is the board members, have a term limit. Therefore, we are...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) I beg to move: THAT, clause 10 of the Bill is amended by deleting subclause (5) and substituting therefor the following new subclause— Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) The Executive Director of the Institute of Insurance Professionals. 13th March 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 73 Hon....

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move that New Clause 1A be now read a Second Time. This is an amendment to the principal Act by introducing this New Clause 1A. All Government entities are required to submit their financial statements to the Auditor-General for...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I request Hon. Cynthia Muge, the great County Member of Parliament for Nandi, to second the motion.

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I request Hon. David Mboni, the Member for Kitui Rural, to second the motion.

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration of the Insurance Professionals Bill, (National Assembly Bill No.13 of 2024) , and its approval thereof with amendments. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) The Temporary Chairman...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I am not so sure but I think the amendment to clause 2 was to be withdrawn. I am sorry. Let me consult. The Temporary Chairman (David Ochieng’) : Go ahead. I want you to consult your clerks so that you are...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) It is elective. The Temporary Chairman (David Ochieng’) : The Mwongozo Code of Governance does not talk about elective chairperson. Does it talk about elections? Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Mwongozo talks about the term of the board. The ideal term is three years. The...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move that the new clause 37A be read a Second Time. Hon. Temporary Chairman, this new clause 37A provides for funding for the institute without having to be appropriated through taxpayers’ money. This is a way of making sure...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I support this allocation to the Senate. However, I urge the Senators to focus on their mandate as per the Constitution. Most of the Senators get sensationalised by making headlines and pick on national matters that fall under the purview of the...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)Hon. Temporary Chairman, I wish to withdraw the proposed amendment to clause 20.(Proposed amendment by Hon. Kuria Kimani withdrawn)(Clause 20 agreed to)(Clauses 21, 22 and 23 agreed to)Clause 24 Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, the amendments that this House has processed in terms of those clauses are mostly providing for ensuring strict adherence to Mwongozo directives. Again, the terms of this particular institute, whether it is the board members, have a term limit. Therefore, we are...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) I beg to move: THAT, clause 10 of the Bill is amended by deleting subclause (5) and substituting therefor the following new subclause— Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) The Executive Director of the Institute of Insurance Professionals. 13th March 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 73 Hon....

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move that New Clause 1A be now read a Second Time. This is an amendment to the principal Act by introducing this New Clause 1A. All Government entities are required to submit their financial statements to the Auditor-General for...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I request Hon. Cynthia Muge, the great County Member of Parliament for Nandi, to second the motion.

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I request Hon. David Mboni, the Member for Kitui Rural, to second the motion.

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration of the Insurance Professionals Bill, (National Assembly Bill No.13 of 2024) , and its approval thereof with amendments. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) The Temporary Chairman...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I am not so sure but I think the amendment to clause 2 was to be withdrawn. I am sorry. Let me consult. The Temporary Chairman (David Ochieng’) : Go ahead. I want you to consult your clerks so that you are...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) It is elective. The Temporary Chairman (David Ochieng’) : The Mwongozo Code of Governance does not talk about elective chairperson. Does it talk about elections? Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Mwongozo talks about the term of the board. The ideal term is three years. The...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move that the new clause 37A be read a Second Time. Hon. Temporary Chairman, this new clause 37A provides for funding for the institute without having to be appropriated through taxpayers’ money. This is a way of making sure...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)Hon. Temporary Chairman, I wish to withdraw the proposed amendment to clause 20.(Proposed amendment by Hon. Kuria Kimani withdrawn)(Clause 20 agreed to)(Clauses 21, 22 and 23 agreed to)Clause 24 Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, the amendments that this House has processed in terms of those clauses are mostly providing for ensuring strict adherence to Mwongozo directives. Again, the terms of this particular institute, whether it is the board members, have a term limit. Therefore, we are...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) I beg to move: THAT, clause 10 of the Bill is amended by deleting subclause (5) and substituting therefor the following new subclause— Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) The Executive Director of the Institute of Insurance Professionals. 13th March 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 73 Hon....

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move that New Clause 1A be now read a Second Time. This is an amendment to the principal Act by introducing this New Clause 1A. All Government entities are required to submit their financial statements to the Auditor-General for...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I request Hon. Cynthia Muge, the great County Member of Parliament for Nandi, to second the motion.

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I request Hon. David Mboni, the Member for Kitui Rural, to second the motion.

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration of the Insurance Professionals Bill, (National Assembly Bill No.13 of 2024) , and its approval thereof with amendments. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) The Temporary Chairman...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I am not so sure but I think the amendment to clause 2 was to be withdrawn. I am sorry. Let me consult. The Temporary Chairman (David Ochieng’) : Go ahead. I want you to consult your clerks so that you are...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) It is elective. The Temporary Chairman (David Ochieng’) : The Mwongozo Code of Governance does not talk about elective chairperson. Does it talk about elections? Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Mwongozo talks about the term of the board. The ideal term is three years. The...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move that the new clause 37A be read a Second Time. Hon. Temporary Chairman, this new clause 37A provides for funding for the institute without having to be appropriated through taxpayers’ money. This is a way of making sure...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, the...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, public participation is enshrined in our Constitution. There must be public participation for every proposed legislation. The purpose of ring-fencing the money for public participation was that when the Budget and Appropriations Committee would go to the five rotating counties every year,...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise to support the Liaison Committee Report on the Second Supplementary Estimates of the Financial Year 2024/2025. This review is a key component of fiscal oversight that ensures that Government expenditures remain within the principles of fiscal responsibility, efficiency...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, the...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, public participation is enshrined in our Constitution. There must be public participation for every proposed legislation. The purpose of ring-fencing the money for public participation was that when the Budget and Appropriations Committee would go to the five rotating counties every year,...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise to support the Liaison Committee Report on the Second Supplementary Estimates of the Financial Year 2024/2025. This review is a key component of fiscal oversight that ensures that Government expenditures remain within the principles of fiscal responsibility, efficiency...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I want to confirm that the amendments we are seeking were made after lengthy consultations. We also considered best practices and structures of Auditor-General offices around the world. Therefore, this amendment is not just in tandem with the existing structures but also...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move that the new clause 6A be now read a Second Time. The amendment seeks to establish the Public Service Human Resource Audit Directorate within the Office of the Auditor-General to conduct and prepare human resource audits of offices...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move that the new clause 11A be now read a Second Time. Section 12 of the Public Audit Act was providing for an Auditor-General to serve in an acting capacity. However, the case of Transparency International (TI Kenya) v...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. First, I would like to thank the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs and his Committee for doing a job that culminated in the reports that they have tabled in this House. To pick...

Hon. Kimani Kuria (Molo, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Misinformation starts with errors; disinformation starts with agenda. When I looked at what the media reported on this particular Bill, I could tell for a fact that there is an agenda they were trying to pursue. This Bill is giving more...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move that New Clause 29A be now read a second time. Section 40 of the Public Audit Act provided the restriction of auditing national security organs. That law was limiting the Auditor-General from auditing security organs. Transparency International (TI...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move that the New Clause 30A be now read a Second Time. Section 42 of the current Public Audit Act gags the Office of the Auditor-General from questioning government policy objectives. The Petition No. 388, Transparency International versus the...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration of the Public Audit (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.4 of 2024) and its approval thereof with amendments. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) (The House resumed)...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I appreciate the good remarks from our colleagues. When I saw the reports in the media, knowing how the Bill came and the work that the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning has been doing, we felt that the...

Hon. Kimani Kuria (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee on the said report. I request Hon Millie Odhiambo to second the Motion for agreement with the report of the Committee of the Whole House.

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, the truth of the matter is that in our political space, women get it rougher than men. That is how it is in our society. Women aspiring for political positions are asked many questions that men who want to lead would never...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) I have not understood the question by Hon. (Dr) Nyikal. This particular provision only relates to the Auditor-General. The current law provides for an Auditor-General appointed in an acting capacity. When the people of Transparency International went to court, the High Court declared that provision...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. Those are very valid points raised by Hon Members. I will be moving a further amendment as new Clause 15A. Clause 15 of the Bill talks about Section 21 of the Act as amended in Sub-section 1, in the opening...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I want to confirm that the amendments we are seeking were made after lengthy consultations. We also considered best practices and structures of Auditor-General offices around the world. Therefore, this amendment is not just in tandem with the existing structures but also...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move that the new clause 6A be now read a Second Time. The amendment seeks to establish the Public Service Human Resource Audit Directorate within the Office of the Auditor-General to conduct and prepare human resource audits of offices...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move that the new clause 11A be now read a Second Time. Section 12 of the Public Audit Act was providing for an Auditor-General to serve in an acting capacity. However, the case of Transparency International (TI Kenya) v...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. First, I would like to thank the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs and his Committee for doing a job that culminated in the reports that they have tabled in this House. To pick...

Hon. Kimani Kuria (Molo, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Misinformation starts with errors; disinformation starts with agenda. When I looked at what the media reported on this particular Bill, I could tell for a fact that there is an agenda they were trying to pursue. This Bill is giving more...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move that New Clause 29A be now read a second time. Section 40 of the Public Audit Act provided the restriction of auditing national security organs. That law was limiting the Auditor-General from auditing security organs. Transparency International (TI...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move that the New Clause 30A be now read a Second Time. Section 42 of the current Public Audit Act gags the Office of the Auditor-General from questioning government policy objectives. The Petition No. 388, Transparency International versus the...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration of the Public Audit (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.4 of 2024) and its approval thereof with amendments. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) (The House resumed)...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I appreciate the good remarks from our colleagues. When I saw the reports in the media, knowing how the Bill came and the work that the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning has been doing, we felt that the...

Hon. Kimani Kuria (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee on the said report. I request Hon Millie Odhiambo to second the Motion for agreement with the report of the Committee of the Whole House.

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, the truth of the matter is that in our political space, women get it rougher than men. That is how it is in our society. Women aspiring for political positions are asked many questions that men who want to lead would never...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) I have not understood the question by Hon. (Dr) Nyikal. This particular provision only relates to the Auditor-General. The current law provides for an Auditor-General appointed in an acting capacity. When the people of Transparency International went to court, the High Court declared that provision...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. Those are very valid points raised by Hon Members. I will be moving a further amendment as new Clause 15A. Clause 15 of the Bill talks about Section 21 of the Act as amended in Sub-section 1, in the opening...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)