Kimani Francis Kuria

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table: Report of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning on its Consideration of the Insurance Professionals Bill (National Assembly Bill No.13 of 2024) .

Hon. Kimani Kuria (Molo, UDA) Hon. Deputy Speaker, I want to thank you very much for giving me this opportunity. I take this chance to welcome the great students of Elburgon Secondary School to this House to observe proceedings and to tell them to work very hard when they go...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) I rise on a point of order on clarity. I do not want to distract my good colleague. However, it is not factual when he misinforms the House that Article 260 of the Constitution lists marginalised counties. Marginalised areas are determined by the Commission on...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that The Equalisation Fund (Administration) Bill No.14 of 2023 be now read a Second Time. Article 204 of our Constitution provides that:

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. On the issue of whether the Speaker is supposed to belong to any particular political party, the law is very clear on every appointive and elective position that a person in this country holds. I have looked at that...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I agree with the Leader of the Majority Party. Hon. Omondi raises an important matter. However, the taxpayers mentioned some of the challenges that they are going through. For example, perhaps, you are supposed to pay taxes before the 20th of the...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) I beg to move: THAT, Clause 5 of the Bill be amended—

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move that the new Clause 1A be now read a Second Time. It is an amendment of the Tax Procedures Act, the principal Act, by inserting the provision for a multinational agreement or treaty that has been entered into...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move; THAT, Clause 2 be amended—

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary, I would like to inform this House a few things. We have 24 commercial banks in Kenya. Out of these, 18 of them have a core capital of around Ksh6 billion. Only 6 banks have between Ksh3 billion and Ksh5 billion. This is...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) For the record, in our report we recommended to give them eight years. The Leader of the Majority Party just like any other Member is allowed to bring an amendment on the Floor of the House and then the House will pronounce itself. The Temporary...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move… The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Farah Maalim) : Order, Hon. Members. Listen to the Chairman as he moves the amendment and import. Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) On a point of information. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Farah Maalim) : Do you wish to be informed by Hon. Kimani?

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I think the Member of Parliament for Ruaraka is not well apprised of this matter. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Farah Maalim) : I can see this too. He has not internalised it very well. Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) The point in...

Hon. Kimani Kuria (Molo, UDA) I want to move a further amendment.

Hon. Kimani Kuria (Molo, UDA) Yes. May I? The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Farah Maalim) : A further amendment? You want to move this one in an amended form, under Standing Order 48? Hon. Kimani Kuria (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kimani Kuria (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, before I move the amendment. The reason the core capital of a bank .... The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Farah Maalim) : I hope you have internalised properly and consulted properly because this time it will either be defeated or it will be...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, the Leader of the Majority Party and the Member for Tetu are consulting loudly. Protect me because we need to pay attention. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Farah Maalim) : Order, Hon. Ichung’wah and Hon. Wandeto. I know you are debating a matter...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, the amendment in Clause 9 (a) is for the same reason that I have explained. (Question of the amendment proposed) (Question, that the words to be inserted be inserted, put and agreed to) (Clause 9 as amended agreed to) Clause 10 The...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) The syllabus is running very fast. I beg to move: THAT, Clause 3 of the Bill be amended in paragraph (b) by inserting the following sub-paragraph immediately after sub-paragraph (i) - (ia) by inserting the following new paragraph immediately after paragraph (f) - 4th December...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Thank you Hon. Temporary Chairman. I beg to move: THAT, Clause 15 (b) of the Bill be amended– Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. I beg to move that New Clause 14A be now read a Second Time. This amendment seeks...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) That is why I have explained…

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, as I mentioned, the Income Tax Act, as it is, was providing for the husband to declare the income of the wife. That is what the law has been for very many years. Of course, you would expect that those many years...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, the proposal was to introduce VAT to the betting service. We have engaged on this matter a lot and people are moving from betting on our Kenyan firms to bet online. For example, if you open a company in Uganda and operate...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Chairman. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Farah Maalim) : What is your point of order, Hon. Chairman? Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, is the Member in order to misinform this House that Arsenal will beat the...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I would like to give Hon. Muriu the comfort that this is something that the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning has already deliberated on. Tax expenditures and revenue leakage are a huge expense in this country. Additionally, most of these...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I share the views and sentiments of Hon. Muriu. Unfortunately, this matter has been a subject of a court battle for five years. On 5th February 2019, the Court of Appeal gave a ruling on the definition of the word ‘paid’. The...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairperson, this amendment is seeking to align with the definition of digital lenders as defined under the Central Bank of Kenya Digital Credit Providers Regulations. 4th December 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 81

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I would like to drop this amendment. It has already been captured in the Tax Procedures (Amendment) Bill that was passed earlier today, and doing it here would be contradictory. (Proposed amendment by Hon. Kuria Kimani withdrawn) New Clause 26A THAT, the...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move that the new clause be read a Second Time. This is to promote local manufacturing, increase exports, create jobs and save us on foreign exchange as we also promote investments.(Title agreed to)(Question, that the new clause be read a...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Today, I am a proud Kenyan, Member of Parliament and a proud Member of this 13th Parliament because we have passed very progressive laws that are going to increase the disposable income of all Kenyans. The payslip of...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, from the outset, I would like to thank the Members of this 13th Parliament for the great contributions they have made. We have been keenly listening to the views that they have shared with us. As we prepare for amendments in the...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, this means that every credit provided by any individual will now fall somewhere. If it does not fall under the Microfinance Act, it means the entity is not a microfinance institution. If it does not fall under the Central Bank of Kenya...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I have seen my Leader and Whip of the Majority Party walk in. All they were doing was whipping Members to ensure that we had enough quorum to pass these very good laws for the Republic of Kenya. They were not making...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) On a point of order.

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, my good friend is making a very good contribution. (Hon. David Kiplagat remained upstanding) The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Omboko Milemba) : Take your seat. This is a House of rules. Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) He is making a very good contribution,...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, you indicated that my good brother has to withdraw his statement. He used the words “as I retract”, which means that he has not withdrawn or retracted his statement. He should categorically withdraw his statement and apologise before he can continue with...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I would like to thank the Members of this House who have really sat patiently, and debated both the Bill and the Report of the Committee. We take note of the matters of concern that have been raised. As we draft the...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table: Report of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning on its consideration of the Tax Laws (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly No. 47 of 2024) . Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. (Debate...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Yes.

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Speaker, when I saw the great ladies sitting this late in the night, contributing to this very important matter, I felt I should come to commend them and support this very good Bill. This shows the hard work that Parliament puts that at some...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table: Reports of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning on the consideration of the following—

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) I thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Considering how important this Bill is, especially to Members that are affected by the Equalisation Fund, I indulge you to defer this business to a later date.

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move that the new Clause 1A and 1B be now read a Second Time. These New Clauses came out of public participation. We have had county governments failing to remit statutory deductions to the respective entities like Pay as...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Two very important documents inform the budget process of the national Government and county governments. The Budget Policy Statement is for the national Government and the County Fiscal Strategy Paper is for county governments. Current provisions in the Public Finance Management (PFM) Act provide only...

Hon. Kimani Kuria (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kimani Kuria (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move that the House reports its consideration of the Public Finance Management (Amendment) (No.3) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.44 of 2024) and its approval thereof with amendments. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr)...

Hon. Kimani Kuria (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, Members are wondering why we have two Public Finance Management (Amendment) Bills separately. The Public Finance Management (Amendment) (No.3) Bill that we just passed includes county 28th November 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 20 Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)functions. That is why we...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Yes. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) : You may proceed.

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Sorry, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. Hon. Members, Clause 3 of the Bill says: Section 4 of the principal Act is amended by inserting the following new subsection immediately after sub-section (3) —

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I have listened to what Hon. Nyikal has asked. I also want to share the sentiments of Hon. Members about a firm being awarded a contract knowing very well they are incompetent. The Bill is 28th November 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY...

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Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move that the Committee reports to the House its consideration of the Public Procurement and Asset Disposal (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.48 of 2024) and its approval thereof with amendments. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) (The...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I would like to thank the Members for their good contributions to the Bill. The clarifications they sought helped us to understand the Bill much better. I appreciate the remarks by Hon. Mayaka (CPA). I wish to notify you that the recognition...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that Public Finance Management No.3 (National Assembly Bill No.44 of 2024) be read a Third Time, and I request Hon. Josses Lelmengit...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, and sorry for that. I beg to move that this House do agree with the Committee on the said Report, and I request Hon. Josses Member for Emgwen to second the Motion for agreement with the Report of the Committee...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, again, I want to thank the Committee for the great discussion that we had yesterday during the Second Reading and the great insights that you have given and enriched this Bill on ensuring that procurement in this country benefits Kenyans, and that...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. At the outset, I would like to congratulate my two friends, Hon. CPA, Irene Mayaka and Hon. Crystal Asige, for bringing this very progressive Bill. This clearly demonstrates that when young people of this country are given a...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I have not read the Bill verbatim. One challenge I have seen when doing public participation, and I am speaking from experience, is that laws are drafted in a complex way and most Kenyans do not understand them. That is...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. So, those who follow my debates in Parliament, when we meet on the streets, say that they understand how drafting of Bills is done. This is better than just throwing words around and not referring to the Bill.

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Yes. I mentioned technology transfer which is contained in clauses 14 to 16. They have indicated a very good framework of how start-ups will engage in technology transfer. Another challenge we have is that Kenyans come up with very good ideas that can solve problems,...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table: Reports of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning on consideration of the following two Bills –

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I rise to move that the approval of Mr Gerald Nyaoma Arita as the Second Deputy Governor of the Central Bank of Kenya (CBK) be now read a Second Time. Article 231 of the Constitution sets out the establishment of the...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Oh, yes.

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) My apologies, Hon. Speaker. Hon. Speaker, I beg to move the following Special Motion: THAT, taking into consideration the findings of the Joint Committee of the National Assembly Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning and the Senate Standing Committee on Finance and Budget in...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) I thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise to second this Bill. This is one of the Bills that was referred to the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning. 27th November 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 36 Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA)We conducted public participation...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) I rise to move that the Public Procurement and Asset Disposal (Amendment) Bill of 2024 be now read a Second Time. The Bill embodies our commitment to fostering economic inclusivity, promoting local enterprises, and ensuring that public procurement serves as a strategic tool for national...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Point of information, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I have heard the concerns of Members. It is important that I offer some information and clarification. The monthly fine referred to in subsection (1) (a) (ii) shall be determined as follows—

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. From the outset, I would like to thank all my colleagues who have really enriched the debate on this particular Bill. I would also like to thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for your kind words, and I do not take...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. This is one of the Bills that were sponsored by the Leader of the Majority Party and referred to the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning. In as well as we appreciate the need to have people designate others...

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Thank you Leader of the Majority Party for your magnanimity. I beg to move: THAT, Clause 3 of the Bill be amended by deleting paragraph (b) and substituting therefor the following new paragraph— 27th November 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 69

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to second. (Question proposed) The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Peter Kaluma) : Chairman, go to the Kenya Roads Board (Amendment) Bill. CONSIDERATION OF REPORT ON THE KENYA ROADS BOARD (AMENDMENT) BILL

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following papers on the Table: Reports of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning on its consideration of:

Hon. Kuria Kimani (Molo, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table of the House: Report by the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning on its consideration of the Public Audit (Amendment) Bill, (National Assembly Bill No. 4 of 2024) .