Murungi Kathuri

Thank you, Sen. Thangw’a. Sen. Omogeni Eric, proceed.

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, what is your point of order? Sorry, Sen. Omogeni, just a minute.

Sen. Omogeni, proceed.

Sen. Omogeni, proceed.

Sen. Omogeni, Sen. Chute is a member of this committee. Are you a member?

I saw you doubting that you visited. Sen. Mariam, can you confirm?

Is it true that you did not visit?

Proceed, Sen. Omogeni.

Sen. M. Kajwang', do you have anything to say on this Motion? (Sen. M. Kajwang’ consulted the Deputy Speaker) Sen. Mariam Omar, can you kindly reply? No other Senator is willing to contribute. However, I understand you are the one who seconded the Motion. Hence you earned that chance also...

Since we have no quorum to put the question, we defer the putting of the question to a later date. (Putting of the Question on the Motion deferred) I would advise my senior colleague here, Sen. Omogeni, to work closely with the secretariat so that the issues that he has...

Sen. Cherarkey, I want to rest this matter. Sen. Omogeni, proceed

Sen. Omogeni, let me help you. You do not need to explain so much. He has mentioned that I chair the Liaison Committee and it is on record. I confirm that there is no time that the Standing Committee on the Land, Environment and Natural Resources came to the Liaison...

Thank you, Chairperson for that commitment to bring your accounts to the current governors. That is very good for the Senate. We do not want to flog that which has built us. So, thank you very much for that commitment. As the Chairperson of the Liaison Committee, we will be...

Hon. Senators, I can see the time that was allocated is now over. However, let us have two more contributions, one from Sen. Mandago. (An hon. Member spoke off the record) No, I am winding up this thing, so that we can move on to the other Orders.

There is a point of information.

Sen. Mandago, address yourself to the point of order.

Sen. Kisang’.

Thank you. Sen. Okong’o Omogeni.

Sen. Chute, I cannot see your request on my screen. He has a constitutional matter that he is raising, but I cannot see his request. That is the last one and then we continue with other business.

Hon. Senators, we will proceed with the business of the House this afternoon. Under Standing Order No. 45 (2) , I wish to reorganize the business of the House this afternoon. So, we go to Order No.21. After we execute that, we shall resume the normal system. Clerk, read Order...

Sen. Methu, proceed.

Thank you. You second and sit down, you do not move on to second. (Question proposed) I can see several Senators are ready to contribute. We will start with Sen. Chute.

Thank you. Proceed, Sen. Mungatana.

Thank you. Sen. Thangw’a, proceed.

Yes, Sen. (Dr.) Bonnie Khalwale? ADJOURNMENT OF DEBATE PURSUANT TO STANDING ORDER 110(1)

Sen. Boni, you are right because if any other Member speaks to it, the Mover must reply, and that will be the close of the debate. (Question put and agreed to) (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Deputy Speaker) So, hon. Senators, looking at the Order Paper, I now defer Orders...

Hon. Senators, I request that you stop crowding and standing between me and the Senator contributing, so that I can follow.

Asante Seneta wa Kaunti ya Tana River. Seneta wa Kaunti ya Makueni, Sen. Maanzo?

On my screen, I have three Senators; Sen. Osotsi, Sen. Onyonka and Sen. Sifuna. I do not think any of them is around. Therefore, having no other Senator interested in contributing to this Motion, I call upon the mover to reply. Sen. Mariam Omar, are you ready to contribute? Sen....

Thank you, Sen. Olekina. I was trying to ascertain the quorum to put the question but since we have no requisite quorum---

Very well, that is okay. We defer the putting of the question to the next sitting or some other time. (Putting of the Question on the Motion deferred) Next Order. ADOPTION OF REPORT ON DESTRUCTION OF SIANY WETLAND IN NYAMIRA COUNTY (Motion deferred)Is the Chairperson, Committee on County Public Investments...

Proceed, Sen. Osotsi.

Sen. Osotsi, since you have not tabled any amendments, your statement might not be accurate unless you propose the amendments if you intend to admit them. Sen. Mariam Omar, proceed.

Thank you. Next is Sen. (Prof.) Kamar.

Thank you, Professor. Next is the Senator for Murang’a, Sen. Joe Nyutu.

Thank you. Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, there are many recommendations on this Bill. Possibly, you will encourage our colleagues to come up with amendments and discuss them, so that you do not write a new Bill. Next is Sen. Wambua, the Senate Deputy Minority Leader.

Thank you, Sen. Sigei. At some point, I saw Sen. Julius Murgor interested in making his remarks. Sen. Murgor, are you still interested?

Do not struggle so much because there is no other Senator who is interested in speaking. It is already concluded. (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Deputy Speaker) Hon. Senators, when you have an issue that you want to canvass, the only person you should approach is the Chair, so that...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, whatever he is doing is right. I have no problem with what he intends to do, but I am questioning the process that he is following because I was making some communication and he stood up to do something else, which I was not privy to. Let...

Next Order. ADOPTION OF REPORT ON THE SOCIAL HEALTH INSURANCE (GENERAL) REGULATIONS, 2024 AND THE SOCIAL HEALTH INSURANCE (TRIBUNAL PROCEDURE) RULES

Sen. Maanzo, proceed.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, thank you for this opportunity to contribute to this very important Motion. Allow me to appreciate your office, the Majority Leader and the Minority Leader for giving us this opportunity so that we can speak on the status of our country. Allow me to also send...

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, for giving me an opportunity to contribute to this very important Motion. I want to thank the two leaders of the House for coming up with this Motion and for summarising it very well. What happened on 25th of last month was unprecedented in...

Sen. Karen Nyamu.

Proceed, Sen. Chesang.

Sen. Chesang, could you, please, give other examples of that language?

Thank you. Sen. Githuku, proceed.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, I beg to move that Independent and Boundaries Commission (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bills No.10 of 2024) be now read a Third Time. I request the Senator for Vihiga to second. I second. (Question proposed)

Thank you. Who is the Mover of this Bill?

Hon. Senators, having considered and approved the National Assembly Amendments to the County Licensing (Uniform Procedures) Bill (Senate Bill No.9 of 1022) , there will be no Third Reading. The Bill will be referred to His Excellency the President for assent. I thank you. Sen. Tabitha, who is seconding? THE...

Mover of the Bill, proceed.

Division at the end.

Sen. Wambua, proceed.

Let us report on all the Bills and then we can do Division at the end. Now, we go to The Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bills No.10 of 2024) . THE INDEPENDENT ELECTORAL AND BOUNDARIES COMMISSION (AMENDMENT) BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.10 OF 2024)

Mover, proceed.

Sen. Eddy Oketch, proceed.

Division at the end. THE COUNTY ALLOCATION OF REVENUE BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.25 OF 2024) Order, Hon. Senators. These are the results of the Division.

Proceed, Mover.

Sen. Tabitha, who is seconding?

Division at the end. THE COUNTY GOVERNMENTS ADDITIONAL ALLOCATIONS BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.19 OF 2024) Kakamega County; Sen. Kisang, Elgeyo Marakwet County; Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe Ltumbesi, Samburu County; Sen. M. Kajwang', Homa Bay County; Sen. Mandago, Uasin Gishu County; Sen. Mariam Omar, Mandera County; Sen. Methu, Nyandarua County; Sen. Mungatana,...

Proceed, Mover. We are on the County Government Additional Allocation Bill.

Hon. Senators, we have four divisions. I order the Serjeant-at-Arms to ring the Division Bell for one minute. Order, Senators. Resume your seats. Sen. Oketch Gicheru, take your seat. Hon. Members, I had put a question on this Bill and therefore we are proceeding to vote. Senators, you can now...

Proceed, Sen. Mungatana. (Sen. Mungatana spoke off the record) (Voting in progress) THIRD READINGS THE STATUTORY INSTRUMENTS (AMENDMENT) BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.2 OF 2023) DIVISION ELECTRONIC VOTING Order, Hon. Senators. These are the results of the Division. AYES: 24 NOES: 0 ABSENTIONS: 0 Let us go to the second...

Hon. Senators, these are the results of the Division- AYES: 24 NOES: 0 ABSTENTIONS: 0 Serjeant-At-Arms, kindly withdraw the ADJOURNMENT Order, hon. Senators. There being no other business on the Order Paper, the Senate, therefore, stands adjourned until, Tuesday, 25th June, 2024, at 2.30 p.m. The Senate rose at 7.08...

Clerk, next order. THE COUNTY GOVERNMENTS ADDITIONAL ALLOCATIONS BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.19 OF 2024) THE COUNTY ALLOCATION OF REVENUE BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.25 OF 2024) CONSIDERATION OF THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY AMENDMENTS TO THE COUNTY LICENSING (UNIFORM PROCEDURES) BILL (SENATE BILL NO.9 OF 2022)

Clerk, do we have quorum? Serjeant-at-Arms, ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Serjeant-at-Arms, ring the Bell for 10 more minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Clerk, call the First Order. Let us have the Chairperson of the Standing Committee on Justice, Legal Affairs and...

Let us go to Order No.6. The Mediation Report will be done after we receive that document. Sen. Wahome Wamatinga, you had a Paper or a Notice of Motion to present today? Proceed then to give Notice of Motion. NOTICE OF MOTION CHALLENGE OF POWER PURCHASE AGREEMENT RENEWALS AND ELECTRICITY...

Next Order. QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS

Sen. Dullo. POINTS OF ORDER DELAYED PROCESSING OF STATEMENTS BY COMMITTEES

Sen. Wafula, if you look at the Order Paper, it only had Questions today, but not Statements. They may be scheduled for today in the afternoon. Sen. Dullo, with regard to the delayed Statements, the Liaison Committee will be discussing that matter. You should be requesting the Chairpersons to fast-track...

Thank you, Sen. Wambua. The reasons given by the Cabinet Secretaries today look very genuine. However, the Senate Business Committee (SBC) will ensure that we still have the Questions of those Cabinet Secretaries who were aligned today next week. I request them to try their level best and appear on...

Thank you, Senate Majority Leader. Let me give some guidance on this matter. Parliament gives seven days’ notice. It is on our policy that you cannot invite the Cabinet Secretaries in less than seven days’ notice. The same rule should be applied by them, so that they also respect Parliament....

I hear you, Sen. Mungatana. That is a matter that can be considered by the SBC. I wonder whether we can get the details that we want. I wonder whether the Cabinet Secretary appearing on behalf of another can make commitments and answer Supplementary Questions. It is a catch-22 situation,...

Standing Order No.51 (c) does not have that provision, but since the Standing Orders are not cast in stone, something can be done through the Procedure and Rules Committee of the Senate to see whether this is possible. I request that we stop lamenting since we have given guidance that...

Notice of Motion! NOTICE OF MOTION ADOPTION OF REPORT OF THE MEDIATION COMMITTEE ON THE DIVISION OF REVENUE BILL, 2024

Let us move to the next Order. THE INDEPENDENT ELECTORAL AND BOUNDARIES COMMISSION (AMENDMENT) BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO. 10 OF 2024) The Senate Majority Leader kindly move the Bill.

Okay proceed, Sen. Cheptumo.

Okay. Proceed, Sen. Cheruiyot.

Sen. Madzayo, the Senate Minority Leader, proceed to second the Motion. The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Madzayo) : Asante Bw. Naibu Spika. Cha kwanza, naunga mkono Mswada huu ambao unahusu mageuzi ya Tume huru ya kusimamia kura na mipaka katika Kenya. Cha muhimu ni kuwa Mswada huu ulitengenezwa na Kamati...

Kipengele cha (d) kinasema kwamba watu watatu watateuliwa kutoka kwenye kamati ya vyama vya kisiasa. Miongoni mwa watu hao watatu, mmoja atatoka katika party isiyo na Wabunge wengi. Mwingine atatoka katika party ya walio wengi ndani ya Bunge. Samahani, Kiongozi wa Wachache! Party ni chama. The Senate Minority Leader (

Sen. (Dr.) Oburu, the Chair is upstanding; just stand where you are so that you do not fall. (Sen. Methu consulted with Sen. Wafula) Sen. Methu, you must be keen while in the House. I will go ahead to propose the question. (Question proposed) Proceed, Sen. Wambua.

Bring the House to speed. What did the Speaker say?

Sen. Muhammad Faki, listen to what the--- Sen. Nyutu, you are bordering on being out of order. The space behind the Chair or outside can be well-utilized to make calls and do other things. So, because I was party to that decision which was made and the Communication made by...

Please note that you are eating on your 20 minutes.

Sen. Nyutu, you are bordering on being out of order. The space behind the Chair or outside can be well-utilized to make calls and do other things. So, because I was party to that decision which was made and the Communication made by the Speaker, I ask Members to desist...

Next in line is Sen. Mumma Muyeka. Sen. Mumma, your first name is similar to a word used in the last two weeks, 'Catherine.' I will seek to amend your name at some point. Proceed and use your minutes.

Sorry, Sen. Mumma. Hon. Senators, when the Chair gives Senators chances to debate, this is one of many things I allow a Member to contribute--- I can give three Senators a chance to debate the matter from the opposition side. What is the problem with giving Sen. Wambua and Sen....

Sen. Mumma, you are enriching the debate.

Sen. Cherarkey, refer to your Standing Orders where that matter is addressed and come back to me.

Sen. Mumma, you are enriching the debate.

Sen. Mumma, have your seat for a minute.

Sen. Wambua, stop engaging other Members directly. What is your point of order, Sen. Cherarkey?

He was seeking clarification.

The Chair is not here to gag Members. That is not one of my duties. Sen. Orwoba, let us hear what you have because today you are also making some noise. Let us hear what you have in your mind and whether it corresponds to what you have done this...

Clerk, confirm whether we have quorum. Serjeant-at-Arms, ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Hon. Senators, we now have quorum. Call out the first Order. (Loud consultations) COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR VISITING TEACHERS AND STUDENTS FROM KITURO HIGH SCHOOL IN BARINGO COUNTY

Next Order. Proceed, Deputy Senate Majority leader. PAPERS LAID

Next Order. QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS STATEMENTS DEVASTATION CAUSED BY HEAVY RAINS AND FLOODING IN FP-ICGLR MEMBER STATES

Thank you. Senator Osotsi, do you want to comment on this Statement?

Sen. Eddie Oketch?

Hon. Senators, if you look at the Standing Orders keenly, you will understand how you should conduct yourselves in the House. When a Member is up and making his contribution, no other Senator should be either standing at that particular time or conversing on the aisles. You should sit down...

Sen. Onyonka, proceed.

I will allow a few more Senators to comment on the statement. Now I need timing for two minutes. You do not need a lot of time to comment on it. Those who have spoken before this decision is made are lucky. Clerk, each Senator should use two minutes.Sen. Oketch...

Your time is up, but I will add you 30 seconds to conclude your contribution. Nonetheless, the next Senator will get two minutes. Sen. Oketch Gicheru, please conclude your contribution in 30 seconds.

Sen. Wafula, proceed.

Hoja yako ya nidhamu ni gani?

Sen. Faki, hiyo siyo hoja ya nidhamu. Ulitaka kumfahamisha, sivyo? Endelea Sen. Wafula.

Your time is up. Proceed, Sen. Wambua.

Hon. Senators, the tradition of Parliament allows ranking Members to be given priority. I am comparing two Senators; that is, Sen. Cherarkey and Sen. Dullo. I have realised that Sen. Cherarkey is junior to Sen. Dullo. Therefore, Sen. Dullo, you have the Floor. The junior one can wait.

Your time is up. Proceed, Sen. Cherarkey.

Your time is up. Hon. Senators, we should conclude on this matter. Before we do that, I want to give the Senator for Tana River a chance to comment because his people were affected by floods. Thereafter, we will proceed to the other statements.

Sen. Eddy Oketch, what is your point of order?

So, what is your point of order?

Thank you. Let us go to the statements under Standing Order No. 53 (1) . The Senator for Elgeyo Marakwet has requested for deferment of his statement and then we will go to the Senator for Machakos. DELAYED PAYMENTS TO DAIRY FARMERS BY KCC ALLEGED ILLEGAL ACQUISITION OF LAND FOR...

Sen. Samson Cherarkey. THE FIGHT AGAINST ALCOHOL AND DRUG SUBSTANCE ABUSE

The next Statement is by Sen. Mbugua. STATUS OF THE TOURISM SECTOR IN THE COUNTRY

Sen. Okiya Omtatah, proceed. MISMANAGEMENT OF FUNDS IN KUSCCO

Sen. Wafula, proceed. STATUS OF MANAGEMENT LEVEL STAFF AT KENYA SEED COMPANY

Sen. Wamatinga, proceed. VISA-FREE REQUIREMENT FOR PERSONS TRAVELLING TO KENYA

I want to give a few Members a chance to make comments on the statements. Let us start with Sen. Tabitha Keroche.

Proceed, Sen. Cherarkey.

Sen. Cherarkey, I have heard you, but I am not aware whether those are JSS interns outside the gates. Unless you have a mechanism to know that I direct that you draft your Question and push it to the office of the Clerk to process your request. (Sen. Cherarkey spoke...

I have directed that you draft your Question and take it to the office of the Clerk, which will be very happy to process it with the urgency that it deserves. However, for it to be neat, you need to raise the matter through the official way. Even the Chair...

Sen. Tabitha Mutinda proceed.

Thank you. Let us proceed to the statement under Standing Order No. 57 (1) Senate Deputy Majority Leader. BUSINESS FOR THE WEEK COMMENCING TUESDAY, 28TH MAY, 2024

Thank you, Deputy Majority Leader. Let us go to the next order. THE LAW OF SUCCESSION (AMENDMENT) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO. 20 OF 2023) (Order for First Reading read - Read the First Time and ordered to be referred to the relevant Committee) Hon. Senators, I reorganize the Order Paper....