David Ouma Ochieng'

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the whole House has considered the Supplementary Appropriation (No. 2) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.38 of 2026) and approved the same with amendments.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)Serjeant-at-Arms, ring the Quorum The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) I order that the Quorum Bell be stopped. Clerk-at-the-Table, proceed. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Leader of the Majority Party, go ahead.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Okay. Go ahead. DEMISE OF ENG. ROBERT MAGOTSI IN MOZAMBIQUE

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) The Chairperson of the Committee on Defence, Intelligence and Foreign Relations. (Hon. Caroline Ng’elechei and Hon. Marianne Kitany consulted with Hon. Nelson Koech) The Member for Elgeyo Marakwet and the Member for Aldai were engaged in conversation with the Chairperson. The Chairman has just...

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. This is neither the first nor the last Finance Bill. In fact, we have had numerous Finance Acts in operation over the years. Therefore, it is wrong to say that this Finance Bill alone is intended to raise...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) And I am communicating that it is completely out of order for your chairpersons not to be in the House. It does not matter. The chairpersons must be in the House when the House begins every single sitting day. I order that this Request...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order! Take your seat, Hon Osoro. Hon. Jack Wamboka, this House will listen to Hon. Majimbo in silence. Hon. Majimbo will remain relevant in his submissions. You know very well that we are no longer in the old constitutional dispensation. We are in the...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Next is the Member for Kabuchai. Hon. Members, please, anyone who does not have a card should get it and log in. Allow me as the presiding Chair of this session to follow the order that you used to log in.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Ng’ikor, go ahead.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Next is Hon. Charles Kamuren. EFFECTS OF RISING WATER LEVELS IN LAKES BARINGO AND BOGORIA

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Let us have Hon. Osoro.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Next is Hon. Farah Yussuf. Is Hon. Caroli Omondi in? Hon. Member Absent. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) He is absent? How about Hon. Caleb Amisi? Hon. Member Absent. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Which wananchi are they representing, and they are...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) That Member will move from her seat. Please, Member for Elgeyo Marakwet, change your seat so that the Chairperson can listen. Now, go ahead.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Well said. Hon. Cynthia Muge.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Return to that Committee. I will not ask the Chairperson to respond. Go to your Committee and raise this question yourself, ensuring that it is handled comprehensively with your leadership. If you have been following House proceedings, you would know that this matter was...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) We have a list in the Order Paper. The first chance goes to Hon. Adhe Wario. Is he in the House? Go ahead. 17th June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 1 INADEQUATE ADMINISTRATIVE UNITS IN NORTH HORR

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Members, you will agree with me that I have given this side four uninterrupted opportunities. Therefore, I will also give the other side four opportunities. Thereafter, we shall return to this side. I have to be fair to the House. It does not...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) The matter relates to the death of a Kenyan in Mozambique. How long do you need to deal with this?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Caleb Amisi, you have heard what the Chairperson has said. I also advise you to speak with him and provide the details so he can have the complete picture as the Committee prepares to respond to you. Is that agreeable?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Point made. In my opinion, that is a point of debate, which you may raise when you get an opportunity to contribute. Go ahead, Hon. Kitany.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) I will let you sit down. (Laughter)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Members, I know the issues before us are emotive. Therefore, let us be factual. I have listened to Hon. Majimbo refer to Clause 169, but it is not there. So… (Hon. Majimbo Kalasinga stood up in his place) Order, Hon. Majimbo! Just sit...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you very much. I am happy to listen to Hon. Mwenje because he has spoken for about 10 minutes without attacking anybody or going outside the script. He has done very well. If you all do as he did, we will have a...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Is the Chairperson or the Vice- Chairperson of that Committee in? Whip of the Majority Party, if you cannot whip your chairpersons to the House, who will you whip? Your chairpersons are persistently not in this House when the House starts. What is your...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Members, today we have students visiting us from Kyamboo Secondary School from Mwingi West Constituency, Kitui County; and Jansil Junior School in Kajiado North, Kajiado County. They are seated in the Public Gallery. We also have students from Al-Ansaaru Nursery and...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Wario.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) The matter will be handled appropriately as directed by the Speaker. In any case, Hon. Kamuren can raise this with the Prime Cabinet Secretary too. Hon. Members, before we move to the next Order, let us welcome students from the following schools in the...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order. Hon. Kamuren is not just a Vice-Chairman. He is also the Member for Baringo South. He is entitled to ask the question he has raised on the Floor acting on behalf of the people of Baringo South. I think that ends the matter...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) That is not my issue. My issue is that your chairpersons are persistently not in the House when the House begins. (Hon. Wanami Wamboka spoke off the record) Order! Hon. Wamboka. It is not your business. It is my business. I would like to...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Where is your card, Hon. Maina? (Hon. Amos Maina spoke off the record) I cannot see it. You are not supposed to stand up and raise your hand. You insert your card in the intervention slot. Proceed, Hon. Kitany.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order, order. That is true and that is why, even knowing that you are the Vice-Chairman, I still allowed you to read your Statement. I did not stop you because you need your constituents to know that you are raising an issue on the...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Okay. Go ahead. DEMISE OF ENG. ROBERT MAGOTSI IN MOZAMBIQUE

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) The Chairperson of the Committee on Defence, Intelligence and Foreign Relations. (Hon. Caroline Ng’elechei and Hon. Marianne Kitany consulted with Hon. Nelson Koech) The Member for Elgeyo Marakwet and the Member for Aldai were engaged in conversation with the Chairperson. The Chairman has just...

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. This is neither the first nor the last Finance Bill. In fact, we have had numerous Finance Acts in operation over the years. Therefore, it is wrong to say that this Finance Bill alone is intended to raise...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) And I am communicating that it is completely out of order for your chairpersons not to be in the House. It does not matter. The chairpersons must be in the House when the House begins every single sitting day. I order that this Request...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order! Take your seat, Hon Osoro. Hon. Jack Wamboka, this House will listen to Hon. Majimbo in silence. Hon. Majimbo will remain relevant in his submissions. You know very well that we are no longer in the old constitutional dispensation. We are in the...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Next is the Member for Kabuchai. Hon. Members, please, anyone who does not have a card should get it and log in. Allow me as the presiding Chair of this session to follow the order that you used to log in.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Ng’ikor, go ahead.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Next is Hon. Charles Kamuren. EFFECTS OF RISING WATER LEVELS IN LAKES BARINGO AND BOGORIA

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Let us have Hon. Osoro.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Next is Hon. Farah Yussuf. Is Hon. Caroli Omondi in? Hon. Member Absent. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) He is absent? How about Hon. Caleb Amisi? Hon. Member Absent. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Which wananchi are they representing, and they are...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) That Member will move from her seat. Please, Member for Elgeyo Marakwet, change your seat so that the Chairperson can listen. Now, go ahead.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Well said. Hon. Cynthia Muge.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Return to that Committee. I will not ask the Chairperson to respond. Go to your Committee and raise this question yourself, ensuring that it is handled comprehensively with your leadership. If you have been following House proceedings, you would know that this matter was...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) We have a list in the Order Paper. The first chance goes to Hon. Adhe Wario. Is he in the House? Go ahead. 17th June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 1 INADEQUATE ADMINISTRATIVE UNITS IN NORTH HORR

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Members, you will agree with me that I have given this side four uninterrupted opportunities. Therefore, I will also give the other side four opportunities. Thereafter, we shall return to this side. I have to be fair to the House. It does not...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) The matter relates to the death of a Kenyan in Mozambique. How long do you need to deal with this?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Caleb Amisi, you have heard what the Chairperson has said. I also advise you to speak with him and provide the details so he can have the complete picture as the Committee prepares to respond to you. Is that agreeable?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Point made. In my opinion, that is a point of debate, which you may raise when you get an opportunity to contribute. Go ahead, Hon. Kitany.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) I will let you sit down. (Laughter)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Members, I know the issues before us are emotive. Therefore, let us be factual. I have listened to Hon. Majimbo refer to Clause 169, but it is not there. So… (Hon. Majimbo Kalasinga stood up in his place) Order, Hon. Majimbo! Just sit...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you very much. I am happy to listen to Hon. Mwenje because he has spoken for about 10 minutes without attacking anybody or going outside the script. He has done very well. If you all do as he did, we will have a...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Is the Chairperson or the Vice- Chairperson of that Committee in? Whip of the Majority Party, if you cannot whip your chairpersons to the House, who will you whip? Your chairpersons are persistently not in this House when the House starts. What is your...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Members, today we have students visiting us from Kyamboo Secondary School from Mwingi West Constituency, Kitui County; and Jansil Junior School in Kajiado North, Kajiado County. They are seated in the Public Gallery. We also have students from Al-Ansaaru Nursery and...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Wario.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) The matter will be handled appropriately as directed by the Speaker. In any case, Hon. Kamuren can raise this with the Prime Cabinet Secretary too. Hon. Members, before we move to the next Order, let us welcome students from the following schools in the...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order. Hon. Kamuren is not just a Vice-Chairman. He is also the Member for Baringo South. He is entitled to ask the question he has raised on the Floor acting on behalf of the people of Baringo South. I think that ends the matter...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) That is not my issue. My issue is that your chairpersons are persistently not in the House when the House begins. (Hon. Wanami Wamboka spoke off the record) Order! Hon. Wamboka. It is not your business. It is my business. I would like to...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Where is your card, Hon. Maina? (Hon. Amos Maina spoke off the record) I cannot see it. You are not supposed to stand up and raise your hand. You insert your card in the intervention slot. Proceed, Hon. Kitany.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order, order. That is true and that is why, even knowing that you are the Vice-Chairman, I still allowed you to read your Statement. I did not stop you because you need your constituents to know that you are raising an issue on the...

Hon. David Ochieng' (Ugenya, MDG) Hon. Speaker, thank you very much. I hold a very different view on this matter. As the Committee goes to do its job, would it also check whether it is time we examined why bhang is prevalent to other drugs? Secondly, we should examine whether...

Hon. David Ochieng' (Ugenya, MDG) Yes.

Hon. David Ochieng' (Ugenya, MDG) Hon. Speaker, thank you very much. I hold a very different view on this matter. As the Committee goes to do its job, would it also check whether it is time we examined why bhang is prevalent to other drugs? Secondly, we should examine whether...

Hon. David Ochieng' (Ugenya, MDG) Yes.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Nyikal, lastly.

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of Supply has considered the Budget Estimates for the Financial Year 2026/2027 and approved the same without amendments.

The Temporary Speaker (David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Nyikal. Hon. (Dr) James Nyikal (Seme, ODM) As I rise to support this, I want to bring to our attention that I have noted staff in our constituency offices do not have a health cover other than the National Hospital Insurance Fund...

Hon. Temporary Chairman. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’)Let us have Hon. Jematiah.

The Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’): Thank you so much, Hon. Chairperson. Do you have something to say on this?

The Temporary Speaker (David Ochieng’) Hon. Mwenje.

The Temporary Speaker (David Ochieng’) Sorry about that. Just do another memo. Hon. Members, I now put the question. (Programmes 0723000 and 0746000 agreed to) (Vote 2043 agreed to) VOTE 2044 - SENATE 4th June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 87

Ninaweza nikachanganya. The Temporary Speaker (David Ochieng’) Order! We said you have to choose the language you are going to use. We cannot do that. Go ahead and tell us what kulet down means. (Laughter)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Nyikal, lastly.

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of Supply has considered the Budget Estimates for the Financial Year 2026/2027 and approved the same without amendments.

The Temporary Speaker (David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Nyikal. Hon. (Dr) James Nyikal (Seme, ODM) As I rise to support this, I want to bring to our attention that I have noted staff in our constituency offices do not have a health cover other than the National Hospital Insurance Fund...

Hon. Temporary Chairman. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’)Let us have Hon. Jematiah.

The Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’): Thank you so much, Hon. Chairperson. Do you have something to say on this?

The Temporary Speaker (David Ochieng’) Hon. Mwenje.

The Temporary Speaker (David Ochieng’) Sorry about that. Just do another memo. Hon. Members, I now put the question. (Programmes 0723000 and 0746000 agreed to) (Vote 2043 agreed to) VOTE 2044 - SENATE 4th June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 87

Ninaweza nikachanganya. The Temporary Speaker (David Ochieng’) Order! We said you have to choose the language you are going to use. We cannot do that. Go ahead and tell us what kulet down means. (Laughter)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Lugari.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) If I remember very well, the late Hon. Malulu Injendi’s Motion was passed by the House. The Bill has not been passed. (Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu spoke off the record) Order. Hon. Makali Mulu, I will give you a chance to contribute to this...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Busia County.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Masinga.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order, Chairperson of the Budget and Appropriations Committee.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Marakwet West. Hon. Timothy Kipchumba (Marakwet West, Independent) : Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for granting me the opportunity to comment on the Budget Estimates for the Financial Year 2026/2027. From the outset, I thank the Committee for the report they have...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Which Standing Order has been infringed?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Mogaka, you have three minutes.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. We will have Hon. Peter Orero, followed by Hon. Catherine Omanyo from this side. Then, from this other side, after Hon. Omanyo, we will move to Hon. Marianne Kitany, followed by Hon. Adams, then Hon. Sigei. Go ahead, Member for Kibra.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Next is the Member for Nyatike, who will be followed by Hon. Kaguchia. Thereafter, we will come to this side.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) You have made your point. Hon. Kaguchia, proceed.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order! There is no Standing Order that has been flouted. Therefore, you are out of order. We will have the Member for Sotik, followed by the Member for Kapenguria.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Next is the Member for Kapenguria.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Adams Korir, kindly take your seat. Hon. Members, this debate will ultimately be put to a vote. Going forward, I will not allow any Member to speak and then leave the Chamber. Who will decide on the fate of the Motion once we...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Members, I proceed to put the question. (Question put and agreed to) ADJOURNMENT The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Members, the time being 3rd June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 74 The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)Published by Clerk of the National Assembly...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Members, that marks the end of the Third Allotted Day for debate on this particular Motion. I, therefore, call upon the Mover to reply.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)Proceed,

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Very well said. The Member for Keiyo North.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Moiben, our time is almost up. I will indulge you if you can take three minutes. The Member for Turbo will follow for another three minutes. Hon. Mogaka will also have three minutes.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Let us have the Member for Turbo.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Let us have the Member for Vihiga County. (Hon. Mishi Mboko spoke off the record) Order, Hon. Mishi Mboko. You know how I chair the House. You will get a chance to speak. Let her have her time. You will get an opportunity to...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Next is Hon. Kaguchia.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Member for Yatta.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Let us have the Member for Aldai.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Lugari.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) If I remember very well, the late Hon. Malulu Injendi’s Motion was passed by the House. The Bill has not been passed. (Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu spoke off the record) Order. Hon. Makali Mulu, I will give you a chance to contribute to this...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Busia County.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Masinga.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order, Chairperson of the Budget and Appropriations Committee.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Marakwet West. Hon. Timothy Kipchumba (Marakwet West, Independent) : Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for granting me the opportunity to comment on the Budget Estimates for the Financial Year 2026/2027. From the outset, I thank the Committee for the report they have...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Which Standing Order has been infringed?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Mogaka, you have three minutes.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. We will have Hon. Peter Orero, followed by Hon. Catherine Omanyo from this side. Then, from this other side, after Hon. Omanyo, we will move to Hon. Marianne Kitany, followed by Hon. Adams, then Hon. Sigei. Go ahead, Member for Kibra.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Next is the Member for Nyatike, who will be followed by Hon. Kaguchia. Thereafter, we will come to this side.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) You have made your point. Hon. Kaguchia, proceed.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order! There is no Standing Order that has been flouted. Therefore, you are out of order. We will have the Member for Sotik, followed by the Member for Kapenguria.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Next is the Member for Kapenguria.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Adams Korir, kindly take your seat. Hon. Members, this debate will ultimately be put to a vote. Going forward, I will not allow any Member to speak and then leave the Chamber. Who will decide on the fate of the Motion once we...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Members, I proceed to put the question. (Question put and agreed to) ADJOURNMENT The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Members, the time being 3rd June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 74 The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)Published by Clerk of the National Assembly...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Members, that marks the end of the Third Allotted Day for debate on this particular Motion. I, therefore, call upon the Mover to reply.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)Proceed,

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Very well said. The Member for Keiyo North.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Moiben, our time is almost up. I will indulge you if you can take three minutes. The Member for Turbo will follow for another three minutes. Hon. Mogaka will also have three minutes.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Let us have the Member for Turbo.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Let us have the Member for Vihiga County. (Hon. Mishi Mboko spoke off the record) Order, Hon. Mishi Mboko. You know how I chair the House. You will get a chance to speak. Let her have her time. You will get an opportunity to...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Next is Hon. Kaguchia.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Member for Yatta.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Let us have the Member for Aldai.