Robert Pukose

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. I beg to move: THAT, Clause 55 of the Bill be amended by deleting sub-clause (1) and substituting therefore the following new sub-clause— “ (1) The Registrar shall keep in the prescribed form a register of all medical devices...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. This is mainly to make provisions for the inclusion of the register of all medical devices as defined under Clause 2 and approved by the Authority. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Omboko Milemba) : Very well. 6th November 2024 NATIONAL...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, in Clause 57, we refer to a person who labels, packages, treats, processes, sells or advertises. In Clause 59, we are referring to a person who sells, manufactures, packages, stores or conveys for sale. These are two distinct things. The Temporary...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move: THAT, the Bill be amended by inserting the following new Part immediately after the new clause 59A— PART VIII – THE NATIONAL PHARMACOVIGILANCE SYSTEM Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move:...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I would like to confirm to the Minority Whip, Hon. Millie Odhiambo, that the Bill on Traditional Herbal Medicine is already with the Speaker. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Omboko Milemba) : Hon. Kaluma, you have the Floor.

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move: THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting Clause 60 and substituting therefor the following new Clause 60: Establishment of the National Quality Control Laboratory.

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. To comment on what Hon. Elachi has raised, we have summoned the Kenya Medical Practitioners and Dentists Council (KMPDC) in relation to the recent incident. From the information we have, that is a Level 2 facility which is not...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 64 of the Bill be amended by― Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 65 of the Bill be amended— 6th November 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 41...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 67 of the Bill be amended— Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) I have seen. My apologies 6th November 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 43 Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA)Clause 68The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Omboko...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 69 of the Bill be amended by Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move: 6th November 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 44 Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA)THAT, the Bill...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Hon. Chair, this is a WHO requirement, as the Deputy Speaker has put it. Here we are talking about handling emergencies. When we talk about emergencies, we are talking about an outbreak like COVID-19 that we had the other day. Under that circumstance, the...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I am seeking to delete Clause 79, which states: “79. A regulatory officer may, for the purposes of this Act, inspect any animal intended for slaughter and may seize and examine any meat which the regulatory officer considers to be unfit...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, with the replacement, this new Clause on inspection and verification of health products and technologies at the ports of entry enables the Authority to enforce compliance with the prescribed standards of quality, safety and efficacy of health products and technologies before...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) In Clause 79 (3) , a person who commits an offence under this section shall, on conviction, be liable to a fine not exceeding Ksh1 million or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years or both. Is the penalty too lenient? 6th...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Allow for a further amendment to that. If we make it Ksh2 million, then may I say Hon. Temporary Chairman that…

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) I want to allow them to propose a further amendment.

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move a further amendment to Clause 79 (3) . THAT, Clause 79 of the Bill be further amended by deleting sub-clause (3) and substituting therefor the following new clause sub-clause (3) — 6th November 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I request Hon. Josses Lelmengit to second the Motion for agreement with the report of the Committee of the whole House.

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) I did not want to interrupt or disrupt the presentation by the Vice-Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Agriculture and Livestock, but you gave a directive that he goes into the material in terms of response because the Hon. Member has read the response....

Hon. Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA)

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move: THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting Clause 81. 6th November 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 30 Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA)This clause infringes on the exercise of the functions of the Authority, contrary to the recommendations...

Hon. Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA)

Hon. Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA)

Hon. Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA)

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 91 of the Bill be amended― Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 92 of the Bill be amended in subclause (2) by inserting the phrase ‘‘with...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. Clause 95 talks about many issues, amongst which is compounding of health products and technologies and dispensing of health products, technologies and by qualified personnel. This Bill provides for what we call pharmacovigilance and post-market surveillance. It also provides...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said Report. I also request Hon. Osoro, Whip of the Majority Party, to second the Motion for agreement with the Report of the Committee of the whole...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I join the Member for Alego Usonga, Hon. Atandi, in mourning the late Hon. Peter Oloo Aringo. I remember him as the KANU Chairman. He was also a Minister for Education and a very eloquent speaker. Some of us...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Article 149 of the Constitution provides that within 14 days after a vacancy in the Office of the Deputy President arises, the President shall nominate a person to fill the vacancy and the National Assembly shall vote on the nomination...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) No! I am just seeking your guidance as to whether we need the same threshold in this case.

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Hon. Speaker, is the same voting threshold applicable in this case? I seek your guidance following your Communication from the Senate.

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Okay.

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Thank you. I am well guided. (Hon. Betty Maina spoke off the record)

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) On a point order, Hon. Speaker.

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Article 149 (1) of the Constitution provides that: 18th October 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 10 Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA)“Within 14 days after a vacancy in the Office of the Deputy President arises, the President shall nominate a person...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Hon. Speaker, recently, in passing the Special Motion for the Impeachment of the Deputy President, you guided us that we required at least two-thirds, that is 233 Members of the House, to pass the Motion. Is the same voting threshold applicable in this case?...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. This request for statement is from the Committee, and I am presenting it in my capacity as the Chairperson. Hon. Deputy Speaker, I rise to request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Education and...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Hon. Speaker, the results of the Division are as follows: 18th October 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 39 Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA)Ayes – 236 Noes – 0 Abstentions – 0(Applause)

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I join my colleagues in expressing my disappointment with the management of Moi University. When they raise issues like overstaffing, it begs the question why the management continued with recruitment of more staff and opening more campus while not looking at...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, these university lecturers also offer key services at the hospital. Therefore, the closure of the university affects other areas. It has a wide ramification. I ask the Chairman and the Committee to save Moi University so that we can save other...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I want to join the Kisii fraternity, and specifically the constituents of Bonchari, in sending my condolences to the family, friends, and neighbours of Hon. Zebedeo Opore. I served with him in the 11th Parliament. Poleni sana for the loss of...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I stand in support of Hon. David Kiplagat, the Member for Soy, in asking the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Agriculture and Livestock to respond. Many maize farmers, I included, are worried about our harvest because it is bumper...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Hon. Speaker, Hon. Kamket is misleading the House. He has been ‘taking’ our cows and goats for free. Therefore, he cannot say that we take them back at throwaway prices. He comes to our homesteads at night to steal our cows and sell them...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Hon. Speaker, the issue of asbestos does not just affect schools. It affects health facilities, housing quarters within the military and other public servants housing quarters. This problem affects many old public housing quarters which were built under the municipal councils in urban centres....

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) On a point of order, Hon. Deputy Speaker.

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) You know very well, Hon. Deputy Speaker, that the Sabaot are the grandfathers of the Kalenjin Community. I would not want Hon. Osoro to get away with disparaging Nandi County as remote. It is not fair Hon. Osoro. You need to withdraw your statement...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for allowing me to contribute on this Consideration of the Mediated Version of the Sugar Bill (National Assembly Bill No.34 of 2022) . From the outset, I thank Hon. Emmanuel Wangwe, Member for Navakholo, together with his team, for...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. On the issue that has been raised by the Member for Tiaty, I want to ask the Chairman whether the academic waivers only apply to marginalised areas or to all other areas where people with minimum qualifications as stipulated...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I want to support the sentiments and comments of Hon. Gladys Boss, our Deputy Speaker, and congratulate our athletes. Mr. John Korir comes from the County of Trans Nzoia, specifically from Cherangany, and he is a brother to a former...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Hon. Deputy Speaker, I stand on procedure. Hon. Atandi has moved the Motion and it has been seconded by Hon. Elisha. The procedure would have required you that you propose the question. If there is an objection for adjournment, it can be made later....

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) In view of the comments by Hon. Atandi and pursuant to Standing Order 96, I beg that you move that the debate on the Motion under Order No. 10 be adjourned. (Question proposed) (Question, that debate be now adjourned, put and agreed to) (Debate...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I support this Bill by Hon. Martin Peters Owino. This Bill - and I want to confirm - came to my Departmental Committee on Health and we processed it. We will be proposing amendments. This Bill speaks to the...

Hon (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Hon (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I do not wish to interrupt my colleague, Hon. Oundo, but I think he is out of order. He has introduced the issue of traditional medicine and associated it with community health promoters. In the schedule that has been...

Hon (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) On a point of order.

Hon (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The Committee considered, and the recommendation is that it concerns the counties. Therefore, this is a Bill that will go to the Senate. Initially, when it was drafted, that was the thinking of the drafter but, once we went...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) I did not want to interrupt my colleague. However, what he said should not go into The Hansard. He has said that our founding fathers fought disease, ill health and education at Independence. It is supposed to be disease, poverty and ignorance, through education....

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) On a point of information, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. It is called a Hippocratic Oath. It is taken to ensure that you cause no harm to your patient and protect their privacy. It is named after Hippocrates, who was the founder of medicine.

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) On a point of order, Hon. Deputy Speaker.

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Hon. Deputy Speaker, I need guidance from the Chairperson, Hon. Koech. The military is a very sensitive institution and it deals with matters security of this country. Therefore, exposing publicly the names of the military officers would affect the integrity and security of the...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) However, if it is only for Bumula Constituency, it can be done.

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Is the Member for Turkana South, right… The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Farah Maalim) : In order. Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Is he in order to imply that there is a Member for Pokot North when we know that Hon. Lotee is a...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for allowing me to contribute to this Bill from the Senate. That is the consideration of Senate Amendments to the Division of Revenue Bill. At the outset, I oppose the amendments that were done by the Senate, and I...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I second the Report as tabled by the Majority Whip. When we talk about competent authorities, we are talking about Kenya National Bureau of Statistics (KNBS) and the Kenya Bureau of Standards (KEBS) . Those are competent authorities which...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I want to support the Committee’s recommendations on the Senate amendments to the Statutory Instruments (Amendment) Bill, (National Assembly Bill No.2 of 2023) . I remember we debated it in this House and we agreed that we have institutions...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. In the same breath, there are Private Members' Bills that, due to their significance and importance, sometimes become Committee Bills. For instance, my Bill on the Kenya Drugs Authority is one such Bill. We have already done winnowing. This Bill...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Yes. Hon. Speaker. On behalf of the Leader of the Majority Party, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table of the House:

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I want to thank Hon. (Dr) Oundo for being magnanimous enough to accept that we have been able to intervene and his patient will now be going home after the spinal surgery that was done at Kenyatta University, after we...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I wish to make a statement on the shift from the National Health Insurance Fund (NHIF) to the Social Health Insurance Fund (SHIF) and the rollout of Universal Health Coverage (UHC) . The Ministry of Health and the Social...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) The Ministry of Health invited Safaricom PLC to submit a proposal using the provisions of Section 114 (a) , (d) and (e) of the Public Procurement and Asset Disposal Act. 2015. They submitted technical and financial proposals as a consortium with Konvergenz Network Solutions...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Hon. Deputy Speaker, with Safaricom PLC being the lead bidder in the consortium, its roles involve overseeing the entire project, ensuring that all consortium partners are fair to their contract terms and deliver their respective components as per the agreed scope. Safaricom PLC was...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Hon. Deputy Speaker, this is a Statement. We are on Order NO. 7, which is Statements. You allowed me to make a Statement on behalf of the Ministry on the roll out from NHIF to SHIF. That is the roll- out of the Universal...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Unfortunately, we get problems because you want to go and explain to your people, yet you do not have facts. This digital superhighway is connected to the National Registration Bureau and many other systems. It is a huge system. The digital superhighway system has...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) On a point of order, Hon. Deputy Speaker.

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Hon. Deputy Speaker, Hon. Caroli has claimed that this is a health information management system, but from my reading, the system is not solely managing the SHIF but provides for various components aimed at delivering a comprehensive and integrated health system for the country....

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Hon. Speaker, the Member for Igembe South has asked for a comprehensive report. I am aware of the research that was carried out which was a data collection from the Maua area. It was a collaboration between KEMRI and the County Government of Meru....

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I would like to inform the Hon. Member that the national Government, in collaboration with the county government, is in the process of setting up a regional cancer institute in Meru. The Dedan Kimathi will be for Nyeri County. For Meru, we...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I will give the response in two weeks. I will also respond to issues to do with Edu-Afya. As you are aware, the Cabinet approved that Edu-Afya will continue. Parents out there should not worry about the children in schools. The programme...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Hon. Speaker, could I have two minutes? My document is at the reception.

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Yes.

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , Hon. Irene Mayaka requested a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Health regarding the regulations and lack of facilities specialising in the treatment of endometriosis. The...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Hon. Mayaka has indicated that the number of gynaecologists since we attained independence is 700 in the whole Republic, both in public and private. I am a surgeon, and there are even fewer surgeons. We have 700 gynaecologists, both in...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) I think we are speaking the same thing with the Hon. Deputy Speaker. There is a cosmetic role for surgery when you do... Just listen to me. I am a surgeon... No! No! You cannot teach me surgery. There are cosmetic reasons for any...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Unfortunately, you know, I would not want to go there. But, for record purposes, everything has… You are not listening. It is not only one reason. One is cosmetic; no woman would want a big scar in her abdomen. Two, they would not want...

Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker.

Hon (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Unfortunately, Hon. Speaker, we have diverted from laparoscopic gynaecology. That is the basis. We were discussing laparoscopic gynaecology, not the issue of whether you have endometriosis or not. That is the point. You are a lawyer and I am a doctor. I cannot dispute...

Hon (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) I withdraw that statement. On the plans by the Ministry to educate the public, issues about endometriosis started arising when we lost a female media personality, who comes from my county, Kitale. The disease was highlighted because many ladies have been suffering from it,...

Hon (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I am aware. I can seek the services of a lawyer in just the same way that when a lawyer becomes sick, he has to come to hospital for treatment.