Farah Maalim

Hon. Farah Maalim (Dadaab, WDM) Hon. Speaker, I wish to join my colleagues in condoling with the nation on the untimely death of our brother, Hon. David Kiaraho. There is a serious problem in this country. This is because since devolution, in a county which has got level four and...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) The next one. Do we have the Chairperson for the Departmental Committee on Trade, Industry and Cooperatives? You also have papers to lay. Proceed, Hon. Marianne.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Fair enough. I do not know if the Chairperson of the Budget and Appropriations Committee is present. Hon. Mishi Mboko, the Order Paper has a matter in which you have to lay some papers. You were the leader of the delegation to the United...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Fair enough. We have only one Question, and the Member who had filed it has requested for it to be deferred to another date. Next Order. Chairperson, Public Investments Committee on Governance and Education. NOTICES OF MOTIONS ADOPTION OF REPORT ON AUDITED ACCOUNTS OF...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) The Chairperson of the Public Investments Committee on Governance and Education. Hon. Mwenje, proceed. You have some papers to lay.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Mishi Mboko, do you have some papers to lay?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Member for Malindi is actually in the House but probably, does not want to contribute. Do you want to?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Kaluma, take a seat. (Question proposed) Hon. Members, is this list a true reflection of the ones who want to contribute? Hon. Wilberforce Oundo.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Member for Nyando, you and I have some unfinished business.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Fair enough. Next Order. There is only one Question, and I understand the Questioner did seek the indulgence of the Chair to defer to another date, and it is so directed. Next Order. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Chairperson of the Committee on...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Fair enough. Is the Member for Bureti, Hon. Komingoi present? What about Hon. KJ, John Kiarie? Hon. KJ, did you forget your full name?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Sunkuli, proceed.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) I can see that the Chairperson of the Budget and Appropriations Committee has not laid the papers on the Table; and under these circumstances, he cannot give notice of Motion. The same also applies to Hon. Mboko. She is 31st March 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Member for Malindi is actually in the House but probably, does not want to contribute. Do you want to?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Kaluma, take a seat. (Question proposed) Hon. Members, is this list a true reflection of the ones who want to contribute? Hon. Wilberforce Oundo.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Member for Nyando, you and I have some unfinished business.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Fair enough. Next Order. There is only one Question, and I understand the Questioner did seek the indulgence of the Chair to defer to another date, and it is so directed. Next Order. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Chairperson of the Committee on...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Fair enough. Is the Member for Bureti, Hon. Komingoi present? What about Hon. KJ, John Kiarie? Hon. KJ, did you forget your full name?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Sunkuli, proceed.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) I can see that the Chairperson of the Budget and Appropriations Committee has not laid the papers on the Table; and under these circumstances, he cannot give notice of Motion. The same also applies to Hon. Mboko. She is 31st March 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY...

Hon. Farah Maalim (Dadaab, WDM) Hon. Speaker, I wish to join my colleagues in condoling with the nation on the untimely death of our brother, Hon. David Kiaraho. There is a serious problem in this country. This is because since devolution, in a county which has got level four and...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) The next one. Do we have the Chairperson for the Departmental Committee on Trade, Industry and Cooperatives? You also have papers to lay. Proceed, Hon. Marianne.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Fair enough. I do not know if the Chairperson of the Budget and Appropriations Committee is present. Hon. Mishi Mboko, the Order Paper has a matter in which you have to lay some papers. You were the leader of the delegation to the United...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Fair enough. We have only one Question, and the Member who had filed it has requested for it to be deferred to another date. Next Order. Chairperson, Public Investments Committee on Governance and Education. NOTICES OF MOTIONS ADOPTION OF REPORT ON AUDITED ACCOUNTS OF...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) The Chairperson of the Public Investments Committee on Governance and Education. Hon. Mwenje, proceed. You have some papers to lay.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Mishi Mboko, do you have some papers to lay?

Hon. Farah Maalim (Dadaab, WDM) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I also oppose this amendment. The primary function of the Executive, in a democracy like ours which has three arms of Government, is to determine and decide their priorities, in terms of development. The role of Parliament is scrutiny and oversight. If...

Hon. Farah Maalim (Dadaab, WDM) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I also oppose this amendment. The primary function of the Executive, in a democracy like ours which has three arms of Government, is to determine and decide their priorities, in terms of development. The role of Parliament is scrutiny and oversight. If...

Hon. Farah Maalim (Dadaab, WDM) Hon. Speaker and I remember Madam Abonyo in 1992 when we came to Parliament. She was one of the most beautiful young Kenyan ladies I had seen at that time. Strange enough, she has kept that shape all through. I do not know what the...

Hon. Farah Maalim (Dadaab, WDM) Hon. Speaker and I remember Madam Abonyo in 1992 when we came to Parliament. She was one of the most beautiful young Kenyan ladies I had seen at that time. Strange enough, she has kept that shape all through. I do not know what the...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Leo, Member for Mbeere North.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Order!

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Order! Are you on a point of order?

Hon. Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) They do not treat you as second- class citizens because they are not citizens of this country but as second-class human beings. Member for Nandi County.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) No. You should have asked him when he was on his feet. Proceed, Hon. Murugara.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) You never know. (Laughter)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Are you on a point of order? (Hon. Yusuf Hassan spoke off the record) Hon. Hassan, this is your fourth time in Parliament. The Question has to be proposed first. (Laughter)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Next is Hon. Kombe, who will be followed by the Member for Kamukunji. Mhe. Harisson Kombe (Magarini, ODM) : Asante, Mhe. Spika wa Muda, kwa kunipa nafasi niweze kuchangia. Lakini, kwanza, naomba nitoe shukrani kwa Mwenyezi Mungu na wananchi wa Magarini walionichagua tena kurudi...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) He is not in order, basically. The responsibility has always been there. Hon. Members, Hon. Murugara, for the benefit of the House, for those of you who were not around at that time, and I am glad Hon. Murugara was around at that time....

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Kabla Mbunge wa Kamukunji kuchangia Hoja huu, ningependa kuwatambulisha bungeni wanafunzi kutoka eneo Bunge la Bura, Kaunti ya Tana River, waliohitimu chuo kikuu leo. Namwalika Mhe. wa Bura awakaribishe pia.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Raso, you trained in the United Kingdom, just as British soldiers train in our country. You did not have any immunity from criminal activities. You should educate Members on that. Did you have any immunity?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) For your benefit and the rest of the membership of this House, the matter of unexploded ordnances was raised in earlier Parliaments, including the Seventh and Eighth Parliaments. There was also a case where a Kenyan lady was killed by a marine during those...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Members, the same way you think that we should not be despised by the British or the whites in the West, is the same way every Member is an equal Member of this House. (Loud consultations)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) You are on a point of order on what? You rise on a point of order when a contributor is on his or her feet. Let us listen to Hon. Murugara, the Chair of the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Nawapongeza wanafunzi waliohitimu. I now call upon the Member for Kamukunji to weigh in on this Motion. He will be followed by Hon. Rozaah Buyu.

The Temporary Speaker (Farah Maalim) Hon. Emathe.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Let us have Hon. Elachi. The 11th Battalion, Kenya Rifles, was dissolved.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Hassan, are you sure that Parliament had taken a serious Kenyan position anytime in the past on this matter? Proceed, Hon. Rozaah Buyu.

The Temporary Speaker (Farah Maalim) Next Order. ADOPTION OF REPORT ON INQUIRY INTO THE PROPOSED SALE OF SHARES IN EAST AFRICAN PORTLAND CEMENT PLC

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Order, Hon. (Dr) Oundo. Order, Members. Mhe. Kombe amesema kuwa ananukuu matamshi ya hayati Mzee Jomo Kenyatta. Endelea Mhe. Kombe.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) I now give the opportunity to the most senior veteran military man in this House, none other than Colonel Raso.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Member for Turkana Central.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) What is your point of order? (Hon. Mary Emaase spoke off the record) Oh, I am sorry, it was Hon. Omanyo. I am sorry, Hon. Emaase.

The Temporary Speaker (Farah Maalim) Who was on the Floor at the time? (Several Members spoke off-record) The Temporary Speaker (Farah Maalim) It has not been moved. Order, Hon. Members. You do not run the House with me. The Order Paper indicates any matter moved. I am now informed that...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) If you take the DNA of all the mixed- race children and engage the UK DNA banks, you will get everybody who is responsible. Proceed, Hon. Kenan.

The Temporary Speaker (Farah Maalim) Proceed.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Martha, second the Motion.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Order! Hon. Madam Emaase and Hon. Keynan, consult in very low tones.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Leo, Member for Mbeere North.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Order!

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Order! Are you on a point of order?

Hon. Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) They do not treat you as second- class citizens because they are not citizens of this country but as second-class human beings. Member for Nandi County.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) No. You should have asked him when he was on his feet. Proceed, Hon. Murugara.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) You never know. (Laughter)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Are you on a point of order? (Hon. Yusuf Hassan spoke off the record) Hon. Hassan, this is your fourth time in Parliament. The Question has to be proposed first. (Laughter)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Next is Hon. Kombe, who will be followed by the Member for Kamukunji. Mhe. Harisson Kombe (Magarini, ODM) : Asante, Mhe. Spika wa Muda, kwa kunipa nafasi niweze kuchangia. Lakini, kwanza, naomba nitoe shukrani kwa Mwenyezi Mungu na wananchi wa Magarini walionichagua tena kurudi...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) He is not in order, basically. The responsibility has always been there. Hon. Members, Hon. Murugara, for the benefit of the House, for those of you who were not around at that time, and I am glad Hon. Murugara was around at that time....

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Kabla Mbunge wa Kamukunji kuchangia Hoja huu, ningependa kuwatambulisha bungeni wanafunzi kutoka eneo Bunge la Bura, Kaunti ya Tana River, waliohitimu chuo kikuu leo. Namwalika Mhe. wa Bura awakaribishe pia.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Raso, you trained in the United Kingdom, just as British soldiers train in our country. You did not have any immunity from criminal activities. You should educate Members on that. Did you have any immunity?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) For your benefit and the rest of the membership of this House, the matter of unexploded ordnances was raised in earlier Parliaments, including the Seventh and Eighth Parliaments. There was also a case where a Kenyan lady was killed by a marine during those...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Members, the same way you think that we should not be despised by the British or the whites in the West, is the same way every Member is an equal Member of this House. (Loud consultations)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) You are on a point of order on what? You rise on a point of order when a contributor is on his or her feet. Let us listen to Hon. Murugara, the Chair of the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Nawapongeza wanafunzi waliohitimu. I now call upon the Member for Kamukunji to weigh in on this Motion. He will be followed by Hon. Rozaah Buyu.

The Temporary Speaker (Farah Maalim) Hon. Emathe.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Let us have Hon. Elachi. The 11th Battalion, Kenya Rifles, was dissolved.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Hassan, are you sure that Parliament had taken a serious Kenyan position anytime in the past on this matter? Proceed, Hon. Rozaah Buyu.

The Temporary Speaker (Farah Maalim) Next Order. ADOPTION OF REPORT ON INQUIRY INTO THE PROPOSED SALE OF SHARES IN EAST AFRICAN PORTLAND CEMENT PLC

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Order, Hon. (Dr) Oundo. Order, Members. Mhe. Kombe amesema kuwa ananukuu matamshi ya hayati Mzee Jomo Kenyatta. Endelea Mhe. Kombe.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) I now give the opportunity to the most senior veteran military man in this House, none other than Colonel Raso.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Member for Turkana Central.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) What is your point of order? (Hon. Mary Emaase spoke off the record) Oh, I am sorry, it was Hon. Omanyo. I am sorry, Hon. Emaase.

The Temporary Speaker (Farah Maalim) Who was on the Floor at the time? (Several Members spoke off-record) The Temporary Speaker (Farah Maalim) It has not been moved. Order, Hon. Members. You do not run the House with me. The Order Paper indicates any matter moved. I am now informed that...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) If you take the DNA of all the mixed- race children and engage the UK DNA banks, you will get everybody who is responsible. Proceed, Hon. Kenan.

The Temporary Speaker (Farah Maalim) Proceed.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Martha, second the Motion.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Order! Hon. Madam Emaase and Hon. Keynan, consult in very low tones.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Oundo takes a lot of pleasure in boxing and, I think, soccer. I am sure he only remembers Joe Kadenge. Do you not remember JJ Masiga and Kadir Farah? (Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo spoke off the record) Do you remember Kadir Farah?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Those of us who have a memory of the 1960s and the 1970s will not forgive Kenyans for failing to remember the real stars of the 1960s. You have mentioned Kipchoge Keino but there was Ben Jipcho, Wilson Kiprugut, Naftali Temu and Amos Biwott....

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Are you sure?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Kindly give him two more minutes.

Hon. Farah Maalim (Dadaab, WDM) On a point of information, Hon. Deputy Speaker.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Keynan. Actually, it is more than three times, not two times.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) And where were you at that time?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) They wanted to bury him in the traditional way, but we went to court and managed to bury him the Islamic way.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Do you wish to be informed by Hon. Chepkonga?

Hon. Farah Maalim (Dadaab, WDM) Hon. Deputy Speaker, I also want to join other Members of Parliament in applauding and congratulating the Head of State for the State of the Nation Address. He talked about his track record for the last three years. We now have a transformational President in...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Which year was that?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Oundo says that JJ Masiga comes from Bumula Constituency, therefore, Bumula must be celebrated. (Question put and agreed to) 27th November 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 36 The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim)Hon. Okuome, MP for Karachuonyo, what is your point of order before...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Order, Hon. Oundo. Parliament is a political institution.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Protected areas to protect them from themselves.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim)Go ahead, Hon. Chepkonga.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Is it a culture or habit? 27th November 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 25

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Leader of the Majority Party, do you wish to be informed?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Fair enough. Hon. Members, my role is to put the Question. 27th November 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 31 APPROVAL OF PUBLIC FINANCE MANAGEMENT (SPORTS, ARTS AND SOCIAL DEVELOPMENT FUND) (AMENDMENT) REGULATIONS, 2025 The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Chairperson, Committee on Delegated Legislation.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Okay. If my memory serves me very well, I remember Hon. Phoebe Asiyo was also a Member of Parliament for Karachuonyo. Am I right? We served with her in the 7th Parliament. (Hon. Adipo Okuome nodded in agreement) I now direct that the Quorum...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Are you sure your mother and father had met?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) From being a Member of Parliament you became a boss of Parliament.

Hon. Farah Maalim (Dadaab, WDM) Fair enough. Thank you. One hundred thousand teachers will be employed in about four years. Doctors are also being employed. The medical field now has hope. Hospitals are being built. In my own constituency, there is a TVET where hostels will be built for students....

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Leader of the Majority Party, proceed.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Janet.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Yes, Hon. Oundo.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Proceed, Hon. Chepkonga.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Order, Hon. Members. Order, Hon. (Dr) Oundo and Hon. Chepkonga. THE JUDGES RETIREMENT BENEFITS BILL APPROVAL OF THE PUBLIC FINANCE MANAGEMENT (GOVERNMENT PRESS FUND) REGULATIONS 2025 The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Chepkonga.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Order, Hon. Leader of the Majority Party. Hon. (Dr) Oundo, what is out of order?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) I know it is not for your Committee but the Departmental Committee on Sports and Culture must put up statues for the people who have put us on the map of the world. Naftali Temu, if my memory serves me right, ran barefoot and...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Wangila had a big issue because he had converted to Islam.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. (Dr) Oundo.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) He, in effect, promoted you.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Mwalyo.

Hon. Farah Maalim (Dadaab, WDM) Hon. Deputy Speaker, I wholeheartedly support what the Leader of the Majority Party is saying. However, now that he has mentioned you, the Speaker in the Chair, I would like to inform him that the only institution among the three Arms of Government where the...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Is there anybody else? Fair enough. There being no further interest, I call upon Hon. Chepkonga to reply.