Farah Maalim

Hon. Farah Maalim (Dadaab, WDM) Hon. Speaker, it is perfect to say constitutional, legal, and policy, but we do not need 47 counties in this country. We need a maximum of 12, 13, or 14. (Applause)

Hon. Farah Maalim (Dadaab, WDM) Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker, for giving me this opportunity. Every five years, we have a dialogue. If we have problems with insecurity in the country, then we have a dialogue. Hon. Speaker, I was in this House with you about 30 years ago,...

Hon. Farah Maalim (Dadaab, WDM) I hope I get my time back. Hon. Speaker, the first past the post system did not serve us right at that time. The minority could have ended up choosing the leadership of the country. This is because the combined opposition votes those days was...

Hon. Farah Maalim (Dadaab, WDM) This place was very well-planned, but there have been very ambitious developments in the city, which have led to it expanding to 10 times what it was at Independence. I do not know whether the Member is trying to find dignity for the dead or...

Hon. Farah Maalim (Dadaab, WDM)(Technical hitch)Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. It is very interesting to have a Motion that discusses the state of our cemeteries in Nairobi. Whereas I appreciate that we need to seriously respect the dead, the big question that one needs to ask is whether...

Hon. Farah Maalim (Dadaab, WDM) Hon. Speaker, thank you very much for giving me this opportunity. This Bill is very timely. First, we need a provision to enable us do a forensic audit of all the money that has been borrowed from the day this country became independent up to...

Hon. Farah Maalim (Dadaab, WDM) Hon. Speaker, the Chairman and Member for Tharaka has put it very well. When I go to some of these vetting sessions, I am pleased to see how our ladies have energy, right ideas, zeal and they talk from their hearts. When we gave this...

Hon. Farah Maalim (Dadaab, WDM) Hon. Speaker, thank you very much for giving me this opportunity. This Bill is very timely. First, we need a provision to enable us do a forensic audit of all the money that has been borrowed from the day this country became independent up to...

Hon. Farah Maalim (Dadaab, WDM) Hon. Speaker, the Chairman and Member for Tharaka has put it very well. When I go to some of these vetting sessions, I am pleased to see how our ladies have energy, right ideas, zeal and they talk from their hearts. When we gave this...

Hon. Farah Maalim (Dadaab, WDM) Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker for that delivery. I want to seek the indulgence of the Chair. Given the widespread interest on this particular Bill, exempting the leadership of the House - the Leaders of the Majority Party and the Leader of the Minority...

Hon. Farah Maalim (Dadaab, WDM) Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker for that delivery. I want to seek the indulgence of the Chair. Given the widespread interest on this particular Bill, exempting the leadership of the House - the Leaders of the Majority Party and the Leader of the Minority...

Hon. Farah Maalim (Dadaab, WDM) Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker for that delivery. I want to seek the indulgence of the Chair. Given the widespread interest on this particular Bill, exempting the leadership of the House - the Leaders of the Majority Party and the Leader of the Minority...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) It is the Member who catches the Speaker’s eye; the Speaker does not catch your eye. Proceed.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Abraham Kirwa followed by Hon. Wanjiku Muhia.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Wanjiku Muhia, I think you are going to have another shot another time. For now, it is Hon. Caroline Ng’elechei, Woman Representative for Elgeyo Marakwet County.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Onyango K’oyoo, Member of Parliament for Muhoroni.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) The Member of Parliament from Mbeere North, Hon. Ruku, followed by Hon. Catherine Omanyo.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) The Member for Busia County, Hon. Omanyo.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Member for Turkana East, Hon. Nicholas Ngikolong, followed by the Majority Party Whip, Hon. Osoro.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Wanjiku Muhia, what is your point of order?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) He means that the relationship between the civilians and the police is not good. Not good blood basically means bad blood.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Order, Hon. Wanjiku Muhia. He has the right to express his opinion.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) The Majority Party Whip, Hon. Silvanus Osoro.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Next is the Member for Kangema.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) What is your point of order?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Order! Order! You are out of order, the Member for Kangema. Proceed the Member for Juja. Give the microphone to the Member for Juja. Hon. George Koimburi, proceed. What happened to the microphone? Okay, now you have it.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Order! Order! You are out of order. Member for Dagoretti North.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) The Member for Kipipiri, Hon. Wanjiku Muhia, what is your point of order?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Is that the mood of the House?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) I call upon the Mover to reply. (Loud consultations)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Next Order. NOTING OF REPORT OF THE KENYAN DELEGATION TO THE 1ST ORDINARY SITTING OF THE 6TH PAN-AFRICAN PARLIAMENT The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) A Member of the Pan-African Parliament (PAP) . Hon. Wanjiku Muhia, who is moving this Motion? No, it is...

Hon. Farah Maalim (Dadaab, WDM) Hon. Speaker, I rise to oppose this Motion. I do not know if my good colleagues in this House understand the implication of these things. This is a very dangerous thing not only for Kenya, but for Africans in general and the continent. Third World...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Proceed Hon. Peter Kaluma. 27th April 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 15

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Leader of the Majority Party.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Kajwang’, what is your point of order?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Order, Hon. Member. Can you wait for the Communication from the Chair? Under what Standing Order will you say he made a mistake? You bring a substantive Motion, if the person is a Member of Parliament.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Otieno.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Sorry. I know that. That was my brother whom we served together in Parliament. We were very close. He is my agemate.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) No! He is not helping me but you. (Laughter)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Order, Hon. Members. The personalities or offices that you cannot discuss without a substantive Motion here are clearly spelt out in the Standing Orders. Unless they were changed for the period I was out of this House, I do not think what you are...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Order!

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Proceed.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Leader of the Majority Party, I have put that to rest. I have said that your private matter cannot be discussed. Your public conduct can be discussed by this House, unless you are a Member of the House, other offices or a Head of...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) What is your point of order, Hon. Kajwang’?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) What is out of order, Hon. Kajwang’?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Order. You have made your point.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Order. (Hon. Rozaah Buyu spoke off-record) (Several Members interjected) Hon. Rozaah Buyu, you will have your moment to contribute. Can you hold your horses, until you have your chance? Order, Hon. Members. When you say that you want the accuracy of his contribution, you...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) What is the relevance of that information that you are giving right now on the Motion before the House? Maintain relevance.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Rozaah Buyu followed by Hon. Cynthia Muge. (Hon. Rozaah Buyu spoke off-record) Can you give the microphone to Hon. Rozaah Buyu? You do not have a card? Okay. Give her the microphone.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Muge Cynthia followed by Hon. Jessica Mbalu.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Jessica Mbalu followed by the Member for Mosop, Hon. Abraham Kirwa.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) It is the Member who catches the Speaker’s eye; the Speaker does not catch your eye. Proceed.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Abraham Kirwa followed by Hon. Wanjiku Muhia.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Wanjiku Muhia, I think you are going to have another shot another time. For now, it is Hon. Caroline Ng’elechei, Woman Representative for Elgeyo Marakwet County.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Onyango K’oyoo, Member of Parliament for Muhoroni.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) The Member of Parliament from Mbeere North, Hon. Ruku, followed by Hon. Catherine Omanyo.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) The Member for Busia County, Hon. Omanyo.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Member for Turkana East, Hon. Nicholas Ngikolong, followed by the Majority Party Whip, Hon. Osoro.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Wanjiku Muhia, what is your point of order?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) He means that the relationship between the civilians and the police is not good. Not good blood basically means bad blood.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Order, Hon. Wanjiku Muhia. He has the right to express his opinion.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) The Majority Party Whip, Hon. Silvanus Osoro.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Next is the Member for Kangema.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) What is your point of order?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Order! Order! You are out of order, the Member for Kangema. Proceed the Member for Juja. Give the microphone to the Member for Juja. Hon. George Koimburi, proceed. What happened to the microphone? Okay, now you have it.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Order! Order! You are out of order. Member for Dagoretti North.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) The Member for Kipipiri, Hon. Wanjiku Muhia, what is your point of order?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Is that the mood of the House?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) I call upon the Mover to reply. (Loud consultations)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Next Order. NOTING OF REPORT OF THE KENYAN DELEGATION TO THE 1ST ORDINARY SITTING OF THE 6TH PAN-AFRICAN PARLIAMENT The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) A Member of the Pan-African Parliament (PAP) . Hon. Wanjiku Muhia, who is moving this Motion? No, it is...

Hon. Farah Maalim (Dadaab, WDM) Hon. Speaker, I rise to oppose this Motion. I do not know if my good colleagues in this House understand the implication of these things. This is a very dangerous thing not only for Kenya, but for Africans in general and the continent. Third World...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Proceed Hon. Peter Kaluma. 27th April 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 15

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Leader of the Majority Party.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Kajwang’, what is your point of order?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Order, Hon. Member. Can you wait for the Communication from the Chair? Under what Standing Order will you say he made a mistake? You bring a substantive Motion, if the person is a Member of Parliament.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Otieno.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Sorry. I know that. That was my brother whom we served together in Parliament. We were very close. He is my agemate.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) No! He is not helping me but you. (Laughter)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Order, Hon. Members. The personalities or offices that you cannot discuss without a substantive Motion here are clearly spelt out in the Standing Orders. Unless they were changed for the period I was out of this House, I do not think what you are...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Order!

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Proceed.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Leader of the Majority Party, I have put that to rest. I have said that your private matter cannot be discussed. Your public conduct can be discussed by this House, unless you are a Member of the House, other offices or a Head of...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) What is your point of order, Hon. Kajwang’?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) What is out of order, Hon. Kajwang’?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Order. You have made your point.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Order. (Hon. Rozaah Buyu spoke off-record) (Several Members interjected) Hon. Rozaah Buyu, you will have your moment to contribute. Can you hold your horses, until you have your chance? Order, Hon. Members. When you say that you want the accuracy of his contribution, you...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) What is the relevance of that information that you are giving right now on the Motion before the House? Maintain relevance.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Rozaah Buyu followed by Hon. Cynthia Muge. (Hon. Rozaah Buyu spoke off-record) Can you give the microphone to Hon. Rozaah Buyu? You do not have a card? Okay. Give her the microphone.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Muge Cynthia followed by Hon. Jessica Mbalu.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Hon. Jessica Mbalu followed by the Member for Mosop, Hon. Abraham Kirwa.

Hon. Farah Maalim (Daadab, WDM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I want to commend this Committee for doing such a good job. Having said that, it is a pity that 60 years after Independence, with the blood of Koitalel Arap Samoei, the land that was grabbed and stolen from the Africans of...

Hon. Farah Maalim (Dadaab, WDM) I am pleading with you, MPs; I am pleading with you, my brothers and sisters. I have been in this House for 30 years, and I am still here. We are still suffering the way we suffered 30 years ago. Some of these are historical...

Hon. Farah Maalim (Dadaab, WDM) Can I have my microphone on? Hon. Kiborek, I am impressed with the fact that you are proud of what I am saying. If you come to my office tomorrow, we can decide on making a Bill that is going to make compulsory acquisition of...

Hon. Farah Maalim (Dadaab, WDM) On a point of order? Okay.

Hon. Farah Maalim (Dadaab, WDM) Yes.

Hon. Farah Maalim (Dadaab, WDM) The rules of relevance are there, madam.

Hon. Farah Maalim (Dadaab, WDM) Let me just finish. She took my time. Let me conclude.

Hon. Farah Maalim (Dadaab, WDM) The rule of relevance is that these people are working on land. They are being victimised because they are working on land and on farms, tea farms. They deserve to own that land themselves instead of becoming something endangered as slaves and labourers. That is...

Hon. Farah Maalim (Daadab, WDM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I want to commend this Committee for doing such a good job. Having said that, it is a pity that 60 years after Independence, with the blood of Koitalel Arap Samoei, the land that was grabbed and stolen from the Africans of...

Hon. Farah Maalim (Dadaab, WDM) I am pleading with you, MPs; I am pleading with you, my brothers and sisters. I have been in this House for 30 years, and I am still here. We are still suffering the way we suffered 30 years ago. Some of these are historical...

Hon. Farah Maalim (Dadaab, WDM) Can I have my microphone on? Hon. Kiborek, I am impressed with the fact that you are proud of what I am saying. If you come to my office tomorrow, we can decide on making a Bill that is going to make compulsory acquisition of...

Hon. Farah Maalim (Dadaab, WDM) On a point of order? Okay.

Hon. Farah Maalim (Dadaab, WDM) Yes.

Hon. Farah Maalim (Dadaab, WDM) The rules of relevance are there, madam.

Hon. Farah Maalim (Dadaab, WDM) Let me just finish. She took my time. Let me conclude.

Hon. Farah Maalim (Dadaab, WDM) The rule of relevance is that these people are working on land. They are being victimised because they are working on land and on farms, tea farms. They deserve to own that land themselves instead of becoming something endangered as slaves and labourers. That is...