The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you. Do we have the Chairperson, Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning? (The Temporary Speaker consulted with the Clerk-at-the-Table) We can skip it; it can be laid later on. Next Order. 24th June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 2 NOTICE OF MOTION STREAMLINING...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Next Order. QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS REQUESTS FOR STATEMENTS ATTACK ON CHEMELIL SUGAR ACADEMY

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma)Serjeant-at-Arms, ring the Quorum COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR DELEGATION FROM THE ASSEMBLY OF THE REPUBLIC OF MOZAMBIQUE The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Members, I wish to introduce to you a delegation of Members of the Ethics Committee of the Assembly of the Republic...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Members, we need to go to other business. Hon. Caroli.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you very much, Hon. Kuria Kimani. It touches every Member that you have said we have a date with history and destiny through this Bill. (Question proposed)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) For the avoidance of doubt, the first matter appearing under Order No. 11 for consideration in the Committee of the whole House is, indeed, the County Allocation of Revenue Bill. Hon. Members, you know what the Standing Orders mandate. Hon. Owen Baya, standing in...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Pukose.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Why not agree on five minutes each, and those who can compress can have three minutes each. Can we agree on that, or I put the question? (Question put and agreed to) Let us have Hon. John Kiarie followed by Hon. Gitonga Murugara. This...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Mumina, due to the seriousness of the matter you have raised, I will not have this one concluded before the House. I am sending the matter to the Committee for further investigations. You will be notified by the Committee as and when they...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Two weeks it is, Hon. John Mutunga. Proceed, Hon. Joseph Oyula. STATE OF EMERGENCY AND TRAUMA CARE SERVICES IN BUSIA COUNTY

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Chairman, how long do you have to go?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) It is so ordered. Hon. K’Oyoo, the preliminary response will be issued on Thursday due to the sensitivity of the matter. The substantive report will come later on. Proceed, Hon. Ruth Odinga. SECURITY AND SOCIO-ECONOMIC CRISIS WITHIN KISUMU SUGAR BELT

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Fatuma, you cannot speak in that manner against Members when you do not have a substantive Motion. Withdraw the words “shame on them” especially as a Chairperson of a committee yourself.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Yes. Hon. Mutunga, did you note the concerns by Hon. Pukose, which you have also not addressed?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) The weed, according to Hon. (Dr) Pukose, treats impotence. The excitement of the lady Members could be more on the positive than on the negative side. (Laughter)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Kassim Tandaza.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Chairman.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Chairperson, I can see some Members are again asking about the order of business. Hon. Millie Odhiambo and others, for clarity, we are now on Order No.10, which concerns the Petition regarding the variation of boundaries for three specified forests, which is the...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) There are responses to previous requests for Statements. First is to the request of Statement by Hon. Mumina Bonaya. Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security. STATEMENTS INSECURITY, FEMICIDE AND OTHER VIOLENT CRIMES IN ISIOLO COUNTY

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Chairperson, the report should be ready and delivered by then. ESTABLISHMENT AND OPERATIONALISATION OF MENTAL HEALTH FACILITIES IN THE COUNTRY The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Daniel Karitho.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Is Hon. Peter Masara in the House? If he is not in the House, as per tradition, please, table the response. 24th June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 25

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. (Dr) Otiende Amollo.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Let us have Hon. Kassim.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Caroli Omondi, you made those remarks just when you were recognised to make your contributions. I want to caution again: if you used the words "stop being stupid" or the word "stupid" in reference to either the Speaker or the House, I ask...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) The response will be treated as the property of the House even if the Member is absent. I want you to read the specific recommendations you are making. The bridge runs through a transnational highway. That is the only way that goes to Tanzania...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Let us have Hon. Justice Kemei. 24th June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 4 The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma)Hon. Justice Kemei (Sigowet/Soin, UDA): Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me an opportunity to comment on the Request for Statement by my good neighbour...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Vice-Chairperson.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) I have recognised Hon. David Mboni.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Order, Hon. John Mutunga. I cautioned you against going away from the subject matter. 24th June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 15 The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma)(Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia stood up in his place) Take your seat, Hon. John Mutunga. Hon. Dorice...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Are you talking about the local government? 24th June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 31 The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma)Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA): In the past, the local governments were collecting more money than what we are collecting now in the counties....

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) There is nothing out of order. Continue.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Fatuma.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. John Namoit, please try to compress your contribution. Can you do so in less than three minutes?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon (Dr) James Nyikal. I am still on the line of experts donated to the Government.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Address the House in terms of how the responses not contained in the report will come to the House or what you want to do to secure that the response is satisfactory.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) That one goes under what Hon. Otiende Amollo calls judicial notice, as the report has come from a Government Ministry. Let us go to the next response. Yes, Hon. Ngogoyo?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Order, Hon. Chairman. What is out of order, Hon. Owen? 24th June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 23

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. John Namoit.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Daniel Karitho, it is directed that the response from the Committee will come within two weeks after recess.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Francis Peter Masara, what do you have to say to the response from the Ministry?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Caroli is undermining Hon. Peter Masara without a substantive Motion because he has made that request. (Hon. Peter Masara raised his hand) Hon. Masara, I have not given you a microphone. So that we may go to other business, this is the bridge...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Dorice Donya.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you. Let me intervene in the proceedings to welcome the following schools and students in the Public Gallery to the House. In the Public Gallery, we have Bicham School from Kajiado East Constituency, Kajiado County; Ndimu School from Bahati Constituency, Nakuru County; Still...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Peter Masara, the Cabinet Secretary concerned is Mr Davis Chirchir. He is a man of his word, expedition and efficiency. Let us trust the Ministry, under the guidance of the House through the Committee, to prioritise it as a matter of national interest...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) I think we will leave it at that, but also to alert Members that the proceedings of the House are public and the DCI, in terms of their investigations, should be observing the proceedings and know what to do in terms of the investigations...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you very much. Next Order. THE COUNTY ALLOCATION OF REVENUE BILL

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you, Hon. Millie. Hon. Members, luckily, the two issues will be brought to the House after recess. I hope we will engage in greater detail then. Yes, Hon. Chairperson. COLLAPSE OF A STOREY BUILDING IN KAJIADO COUNTY

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Traditionally, when a person rises under Standing Order 95, the Speaker has a range of discretion to determine whether a question should be put for the Mover to reply or whether further opportunities can be granted to additional Members. This is why Hon. Owen...

The contextual matters The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. John Mutunga…

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you. Hon. David Mboni will speak after Hon. Millie Odhiambo-Mabona because of rank and precedence.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Chairperson, Departmental Committee on Health

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Dido Raso.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Onesmus Ngogoyo.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) The students are welcome to the House to observe proceedings. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma)The Vice-Chairman, Departmental Committee on Defence, Intelligence and Foreign Relations Committee, is there a way you can DEMISE OF MS SHEILA CHEPKORIR

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Ruth Odinga, you will get the response to your Request for Statement in two weeks’ time.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Caroli Omondi, it is being confirmed to me that what I heard, what Hon. Kassim heard and what several Members across the aisle heard is that you said, “stop being stupid” That is what is on The Hansard. Hon. Caroli Omondi, I am...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Let us have Hon. Gitonga Murugara, the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Let us have the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Agriculture and Livestock, Hon. John Mutunga.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) The response by the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Housing, Urban Planning and Public Works to the Statement request by Hon. Onesmus Ngogoyo.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Gitonga Murugara. Hon. Members, this is a very short Bill. In light of what has been said by the Leader of the Majority Party, let us expedite consideration of the matter so that we can proceed to the Committee stage.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma)Is that parliamentary?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Ng’elechei, that sounds reasonable. Because the investigations are continuing, the Vice-Chairperson has undertaken that there will be a progress report before the House which will be debated as we go along on this sensitive matter. You will get a response the first week...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Order! I think that introduction is enough. Hon. John Mutunga, please, keep to the sufficiency of your response and what you can do to seal any gaps.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Caroli, I am going to deal with you now under Standing Order 107A. And just for clarity, let me read it to you: Gross disorderly conduct 107A. (1) A Member commits an act of gross disorderly conduct if the Member— ADJOURNMENT The Temporary...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Members, I now put the Question for your decision. (Question put and agreed to) (The Bill was read a Second Time and committed to Committee of the whole House) The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you. Before the next Order is called,...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Raphael Wanjala, how can you interrupt such a learned presentation on this Bill, which is deemed complicated? Hon. Caroli, who is on the phone there? That is not right. If Hon. Members wish to pick up phone calls, there are rooms even behind...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Is Hon. Onesmus Ngogoyo in the House? Hon. Members Yes. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Okay. Can you go to the specific responses, so that we save time?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Caroline Ng’elechei.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Pukose to second.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. John Mutunga, Members are saying that the response you have read on behalf of the Ministry has gaps. How do you intend to address them? That is why I have given you the microphone.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Fatuma will have the last opportunity to joyride on this response. We have a very long Order Paper, Hon. Members.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Let us have Hon. Robert Pukose.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. John Mutunga, I took note of that. It is a non-issue. Let us go to the next response, which will be given by the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Defence, Intelligence and Foreign Relations, to the request for Statement by Hon. Caroline...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Otiende Amollo, the Procedure and House Rules Committee has picked up the point you have raised. It is under consideration in terms of possible amendments to the provisions of the Standing Orders. Hon. Namuar. 24th June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 27

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Kassim Tandaza, sit down. Hon. Caroli Omondi, did you use the words “stop being stupid” in reference to Members?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Yes, Hon. Irene.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) They were producing petroleum the other day. Hon. Baya.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Oyula, the first week after recess sounds reasonable.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Caroli, this is the House of representatives, and you speak for the entire nation. It is not for a section of people to ask questions concerning any part of the country. Any Member of Parliament, as Hon. Namuar has done, can raise an...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Caroli Omondi, in under three minutes, make your contribution. 24th June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 73

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) It is already on record and the Chairman also informed that you already have a copy of the report. There are some things you can do to help with the investigations without being publicly on record. REHABILITATION OF MIGORI RIVER BRIDGE

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) You know the limitations of these responses have been the presidential system. It is for that reason that I am using my discretion to remit the matter to the Committee for in-depth interrogation. Please, attend and provide the information you have so that we...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) I have noted many lapses on the part of Hon. Kimani Kuria. Let us do a procedural step here. Clerk-at-the-Table, can you go back to Order No. 5? The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Kimani Kuria.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Leader of the Majority Party, I have had the privilege of working with the Member for Molo, Hon. Kuria Kimani. I will tell you it is not just the people of Molo who acknowledge that he is a genius. I have become a finance...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Members, we need to go to other business. Hon. Caroli.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you very much, Hon. Kuria Kimani. It touches every Member that you have said we have a date with history and destiny through this Bill. (Question proposed)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) For the avoidance of doubt, the first matter appearing under Order No. 11 for consideration in the Committee of the whole House is, indeed, the County Allocation of Revenue Bill. Hon. Members, you know what the Standing Orders mandate. Hon. Owen Baya, standing in...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Pukose.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Why not agree on five minutes each, and those who can compress can have three minutes each. Can we agree on that, or I put the question? (Question put and agreed to) Let us have Hon. John Kiarie followed by Hon. Gitonga Murugara. This...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Mumina, due to the seriousness of the matter you have raised, I will not have this one concluded before the House. I am sending the matter to the Committee for further investigations. You will be notified by the Committee as and when they...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Two weeks it is, Hon. John Mutunga. Proceed, Hon. Joseph Oyula. STATE OF EMERGENCY AND TRAUMA CARE SERVICES IN BUSIA COUNTY

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Chairman, how long do you have to go?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) It is so ordered. Hon. K’Oyoo, the preliminary response will be issued on Thursday due to the sensitivity of the matter. The substantive report will come later on. Proceed, Hon. Ruth Odinga. SECURITY AND SOCIO-ECONOMIC CRISIS WITHIN KISUMU SUGAR BELT

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Fatuma, you cannot speak in that manner against Members when you do not have a substantive Motion. Withdraw the words “shame on them” especially as a Chairperson of a committee yourself.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Yes. Hon. Mutunga, did you note the concerns by Hon. Pukose, which you have also not addressed?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) The weed, according to Hon. (Dr) Pukose, treats impotence. The excitement of the lady Members could be more on the positive than on the negative side. (Laughter)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Kassim Tandaza.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Chairman.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Chairperson, I can see some Members are again asking about the order of business. Hon. Millie Odhiambo and others, for clarity, we are now on Order No.10, which concerns the Petition regarding the variation of boundaries for three specified forests, which is the...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) There are responses to previous requests for Statements. First is to the request of Statement by Hon. Mumina Bonaya. Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security. STATEMENTS INSECURITY, FEMICIDE AND OTHER VIOLENT CRIMES IN ISIOLO COUNTY

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Chairperson, the report should be ready and delivered by then. ESTABLISHMENT AND OPERATIONALISATION OF MENTAL HEALTH FACILITIES IN THE COUNTRY The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Daniel Karitho.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Is Hon. Peter Masara in the House? If he is not in the House, as per tradition, please, table the response. 24th June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 25

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. (Dr) Otiende Amollo.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Let us have Hon. Kassim.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Caroli Omondi, you made those remarks just when you were recognised to make your contributions. I want to caution again: if you used the words "stop being stupid" or the word "stupid" in reference to either the Speaker or the House, I ask...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) The response will be treated as the property of the House even if the Member is absent. I want you to read the specific recommendations you are making. The bridge runs through a transnational highway. That is the only way that goes to Tanzania...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Let us have Hon. Justice Kemei. 24th June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 4 The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma)Hon. Justice Kemei (Sigowet/Soin, UDA): Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me an opportunity to comment on the Request for Statement by my good neighbour...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Vice-Chairperson.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) I have recognised Hon. David Mboni.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Order, Hon. John Mutunga. I cautioned you against going away from the subject matter. 24th June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 15 The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma)(Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia stood up in his place) Take your seat, Hon. John Mutunga. Hon. Dorice...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Are you talking about the local government? 24th June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 31 The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma)Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose (Endebess, UDA): In the past, the local governments were collecting more money than what we are collecting now in the counties....

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) There is nothing out of order. Continue.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Fatuma.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. John Namoit, please try to compress your contribution. Can you do so in less than three minutes?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon (Dr) James Nyikal. I am still on the line of experts donated to the Government.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Address the House in terms of how the responses not contained in the report will come to the House or what you want to do to secure that the response is satisfactory.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) That one goes under what Hon. Otiende Amollo calls judicial notice, as the report has come from a Government Ministry. Let us go to the next response. Yes, Hon. Ngogoyo?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Order, Hon. Chairman. What is out of order, Hon. Owen? 24th June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 23

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. John Namoit.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Daniel Karitho, it is directed that the response from the Committee will come within two weeks after recess.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Francis Peter Masara, what do you have to say to the response from the Ministry?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Caroli is undermining Hon. Peter Masara without a substantive Motion because he has made that request. (Hon. Peter Masara raised his hand) Hon. Masara, I have not given you a microphone. So that we may go to other business, this is the bridge...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Dorice Donya.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you. Let me intervene in the proceedings to welcome the following schools and students in the Public Gallery to the House. In the Public Gallery, we have Bicham School from Kajiado East Constituency, Kajiado County; Ndimu School from Bahati Constituency, Nakuru County; Still...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Peter Masara, the Cabinet Secretary concerned is Mr Davis Chirchir. He is a man of his word, expedition and efficiency. Let us trust the Ministry, under the guidance of the House through the Committee, to prioritise it as a matter of national interest...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) I think we will leave it at that, but also to alert Members that the proceedings of the House are public and the DCI, in terms of their investigations, should be observing the proceedings and know what to do in terms of the investigations...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you very much. Next Order. THE COUNTY ALLOCATION OF REVENUE BILL

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you, Hon. Millie. Hon. Members, luckily, the two issues will be brought to the House after recess. I hope we will engage in greater detail then. Yes, Hon. Chairperson. COLLAPSE OF A STOREY BUILDING IN KAJIADO COUNTY

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Traditionally, when a person rises under Standing Order 95, the Speaker has a range of discretion to determine whether a question should be put for the Mover to reply or whether further opportunities can be granted to additional Members. This is why Hon. Owen...

The contextual matters The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. John Mutunga…

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you. Hon. David Mboni will speak after Hon. Millie Odhiambo-Mabona because of rank and precedence.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Chairperson, Departmental Committee on Health

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Dido Raso.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Onesmus Ngogoyo.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) The students are welcome to the House to observe proceedings. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma)The Vice-Chairman, Departmental Committee on Defence, Intelligence and Foreign Relations Committee, is there a way you can DEMISE OF MS SHEILA CHEPKORIR

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Ruth Odinga, you will get the response to your Request for Statement in two weeks’ time.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Caroli Omondi, it is being confirmed to me that what I heard, what Hon. Kassim heard and what several Members across the aisle heard is that you said, “stop being stupid” That is what is on The Hansard. Hon. Caroli Omondi, I am...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Let us have Hon. Gitonga Murugara, the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Let us have the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Agriculture and Livestock, Hon. John Mutunga.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) The response by the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Housing, Urban Planning and Public Works to the Statement request by Hon. Onesmus Ngogoyo.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Gitonga Murugara. Hon. Members, this is a very short Bill. In light of what has been said by the Leader of the Majority Party, let us expedite consideration of the matter so that we can proceed to the Committee stage.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma)Is that parliamentary?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Ng’elechei, that sounds reasonable. Because the investigations are continuing, the Vice-Chairperson has undertaken that there will be a progress report before the House which will be debated as we go along on this sensitive matter. You will get a response the first week...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Order! I think that introduction is enough. Hon. John Mutunga, please, keep to the sufficiency of your response and what you can do to seal any gaps.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Caroli, I am going to deal with you now under Standing Order 107A. And just for clarity, let me read it to you: Gross disorderly conduct 107A. (1) A Member commits an act of gross disorderly conduct if the Member— ADJOURNMENT The Temporary...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Members, I now put the Question for your decision. (Question put and agreed to) (The Bill was read a Second Time and committed to Committee of the whole House) The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you. Before the next Order is called,...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Raphael Wanjala, how can you interrupt such a learned presentation on this Bill, which is deemed complicated? Hon. Caroli, who is on the phone there? That is not right. If Hon. Members wish to pick up phone calls, there are rooms even behind...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Is Hon. Onesmus Ngogoyo in the House? Hon. Members Yes. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Okay. Can you go to the specific responses, so that we save time?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Caroline Ng’elechei.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Pukose to second.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. John Mutunga, Members are saying that the response you have read on behalf of the Ministry has gaps. How do you intend to address them? That is why I have given you the microphone.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Fatuma will have the last opportunity to joyride on this response. We have a very long Order Paper, Hon. Members.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Let us have Hon. Robert Pukose.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. John Mutunga, I took note of that. It is a non-issue. Let us go to the next response, which will be given by the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Defence, Intelligence and Foreign Relations, to the request for Statement by Hon. Caroline...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Otiende Amollo, the Procedure and House Rules Committee has picked up the point you have raised. It is under consideration in terms of possible amendments to the provisions of the Standing Orders. Hon. Namuar. 24th June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 27

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Kassim Tandaza, sit down. Hon. Caroli Omondi, did you use the words “stop being stupid” in reference to Members?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Yes, Hon. Irene.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) They were producing petroleum the other day. Hon. Baya.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Oyula, the first week after recess sounds reasonable.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Caroli, this is the House of representatives, and you speak for the entire nation. It is not for a section of people to ask questions concerning any part of the country. Any Member of Parliament, as Hon. Namuar has done, can raise an...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Caroli Omondi, in under three minutes, make your contribution. 24th June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 73

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) It is already on record and the Chairman also informed that you already have a copy of the report. There are some things you can do to help with the investigations without being publicly on record. REHABILITATION OF MIGORI RIVER BRIDGE

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) You know the limitations of these responses have been the presidential system. It is for that reason that I am using my discretion to remit the matter to the Committee for in-depth interrogation. Please, attend and provide the information you have so that we...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) I have noted many lapses on the part of Hon. Kimani Kuria. Let us do a procedural step here. Clerk-at-the-Table, can you go back to Order No. 5? The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Kimani Kuria.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Leader of the Majority Party, I have had the privilege of working with the Member for Molo, Hon. Kuria Kimani. I will tell you it is not just the people of Molo who acknowledge that he is a genius. I have become a finance...

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Order, Hon. Otiende. Hon. Kaluma is on a point of order. Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I never interrupt Hon. Amollo. But there is...

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, Hon. Otiende Amollo raises a valid point that if matters are confidential, there should be regulations governing them. We do not contest that point. However, my point of order is that we are debating the Supplementary Appropriation Bill (No.2) of...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Chairperson, to report to the House.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) The Mover to move agreement with the report.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Pukose.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. George Sunkuyia.