Martha Wangari Wanjira

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Order, Hon. Donya. We only have three parliamentary languages: English, Kiswahili and Kenyan Sign Language. Those are the only languages that can be used. (Laughter)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Hon. Member, I think the Member for Buuri already clarified and said he has three women, including the daughters and the wife in the house. So, allow him to finish.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Hon. Chikati.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Thank you, Hon. Members. I will give the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Education to say something, then the Chairperson of the Kenya Women Parliamentary Association (KEWOPA) and then we will close this matter.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari)KEWOPA Chairperson, Hon. Leah

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Hon. Members, we will put a close to the debate on this issue. The Chairmen of the Departmental Committees on Health and 4th October 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 12 The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari)Education and the Leader of the Majority Party will give...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) It is well directed. Note my direction. It is not the Departmental Committee on Health, but the two ministries of Public Service, Gender and Affirmative Action and the Education one. Thank you, Leader of the Majority Party. Next Order. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Chairperson, Select Committee on National Government Constituency Development Fund (NG-CDF) . 4th October 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 13

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Cabinet Secretary, please, answer those follow-up questions. The Cabinet Secretary for Health (Dr Susan Nakhumicha) : Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker and Hon. Members. On the preparedness for El Nino, we have a multi- agency and multi-sectoral committee chaired by the Deputy President. We...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Thank you, Hon. Member. Hon. Cabinet Secretary, can you clarify? The Cabinet Secretary for Health (Dr Susan Nakhumicha) : Thank you Hon. Temporary Speaker and Hon. Member. Services at NHIF are continuing to be offered and we continue to work. We have just finalised...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Thank you, Member for Mathare. Hon. Members, you can read Standing Order 43 all the way to 43 (3) . It has given leeway to the Speaker to exert discretion. I will give permission for three comments to a maximum of three minutes each...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Order, Members! We will not indulge more than that on this issue. The Cabinet Secretary for Health is in the House. We will go to the Questions. We have already overshot the time we would have had the Cabinet Secretary start. We will have...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Mheshimiwa Zamzam.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Thank you, Leader of the Minority Party. Hon. Member for Endebess.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Thank you, Member of Parliament for Kirinyaga. This being a Personal Statement, no comment will be made. The next Statement will be made by the Member of Parliament for Tinderet. Hon. Members, I know you wanted to speak to this as I can see...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Hon Cabinet Secretary, note the follow-up questions then you will respond once. Hon. Members, if you want to ask a follow- up question, kindly, indicate that by use of the intervention button. Member for Yatta.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Leader of the Majority Party.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Hon. Junet.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Hon. Cabinet Secretary, please, note that we have a number of Questions. So, keep your answers short and precise so that we can make progress. Please, take the microphone. The Cabinet Secretary for Health (Dr Susan Nakhumicha) : Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Your time is up, Hon. Junet. I will indulge the Leader of the Majority Party. Hon. Members, also remember that the Member for Mathare has made a General Statement. There are other avenues of bringing this issue to the Floor. I will give the...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Cabinet Secretary, on Mheshimiwa Zamzam’s question, the Bill is still in Parliament. Respond to the question by Hon. Titus. The Bill has not even passed yet. Let us avoid pre-empting Bills that are still before the House. I also direct that the document you...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Waziri. The Cabinet Secretary for Health (Dr Susan Nakhumicha) : Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. This Question got to me this morning while I was actively participating in the Public Investments Committee (PIC) . I have done a response, but I also seek more...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Before I call for the next Statement, allow me to recognise PCEA Ibiriga Church Women’s Guild from Chuka/Igambang’ombe Constituency, Tharaka Nithi County. They are seated in the Public Gallery. On my own behalf and that of the House, we welcome you to observe the...

Hon. Martha Wangari (Gilgil, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. From the onset, allow me to congratulate Hon. Muriu of Gatanga for bringing this very important issue on the Floor of the House. For the first time, we have seen children in primary schools being sent home for fees. It...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Cabinet Secretary, please, answer those follow-up questions. The Cabinet Secretary for Health (Dr Susan Nakhumicha) : Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker and Hon. Members. On the preparedness for El Nino, we have a multi- agency and multi-sectoral committee chaired by the Deputy President. We...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Thank you, Hon. Member. Hon. Cabinet Secretary, can you clarify? The Cabinet Secretary for Health (Dr Susan Nakhumicha) : Thank you Hon. Temporary Speaker and Hon. Member. Services at NHIF are continuing to be offered and we continue to work. We have just finalised...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Thank you, Member for Mathare. Hon. Members, you can read Standing Order 43 all the way to 43 (3) . It has given leeway to the Speaker to exert discretion. I will give permission for three comments to a maximum of three minutes each...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Order, Members! We will not indulge more than that on this issue. The Cabinet Secretary for Health is in the House. We will go to the Questions. We have already overshot the time we would have had the Cabinet Secretary start. We will have...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Mheshimiwa Zamzam.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Thank you, Leader of the Minority Party. Hon. Member for Endebess.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Thank you, Member of Parliament for Kirinyaga. This being a Personal Statement, no comment will be made. The next Statement will be made by the Member of Parliament for Tinderet. Hon. Members, I know you wanted to speak to this as I can see...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Hon Cabinet Secretary, note the follow-up questions then you will respond once. Hon. Members, if you want to ask a follow- up question, kindly, indicate that by use of the intervention button. Member for Yatta.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Leader of the Majority Party.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Hon. Junet.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Hon. Cabinet Secretary, please, note that we have a number of Questions. So, keep your answers short and precise so that we can make progress. Please, take the microphone. The Cabinet Secretary for Health (Dr Susan Nakhumicha) : Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Your time is up, Hon. Junet. I will indulge the Leader of the Majority Party. Hon. Members, also remember that the Member for Mathare has made a General Statement. There are other avenues of bringing this issue to the Floor. I will give the...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Cabinet Secretary, on Mheshimiwa Zamzam’s question, the Bill is still in Parliament. Respond to the question by Hon. Titus. The Bill has not even passed yet. Let us avoid pre-empting Bills that are still before the House. I also direct that the document you...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Waziri. The Cabinet Secretary for Health (Dr Susan Nakhumicha) : Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. This Question got to me this morning while I was actively participating in the Public Investments Committee (PIC) . I have done a response, but I also seek more...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Before I call for the next Statement, allow me to recognise PCEA Ibiriga Church Women’s Guild from Chuka/Igambang’ombe Constituency, Tharaka Nithi County. They are seated in the Public Gallery. On my own behalf and that of the House, we welcome you to observe the...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Hon. Gikaria, I want you to be the last one. Cabinet Secretary, I hope you have noted the question by the Member for Funyula on whether infertility is covered. Hon. Gikaria, one minute.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) You do not have the capacity to donate, but I will give Hon. Bisau who has been on the queue to ask a follow up question. We will then have Hon. Alice Ng’ang’a.

Hon. Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Thank you, Member for Nakuru Town East. You have raised a very important issue. Because I have seen the copy of the responses, I think it should be tabled so that the Table Office can make copies on request by Members if they would...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari)Cabinet Secretary, kindly respond. 4th October 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 45 The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari)for other services, like stem cells, which we consider cosmetology hence not covered under the NHIF.With regard to ADR, I believe that would be an individual responsibility. Once a...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) While at it, Hon. Cabinet Secretary, please, educate these Members on what an intersex person is because I can already hear the 4th October 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 43 The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari)Member for Nyando shouting LGBTQ. Kindly educate the House on...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Cabinet Secretary. The Cabinet Secretary for Health (Dr Susan Nakhumicha) : Hon. Temporary Speaker, epilepsy is one of the non-communicable diseases (NCDs) that is a top priority for the Ministry of Health. Objective two of the Kenya Health Policy 2014-2030 has prioritised interventions to...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Order, Hon. Members! The ongoing kamukunji, led by the Member for Kabete, please, do not distract the Member for Kwanza. Keep the tones of your consultations low. He wants to hear. Proceed, Cabinet Secretary. The Cabinet Secretary for Health (Dr Susan Nakhumicha) : Thank...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) We will have one more question from the Member for Tetu.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Hon. Mayaka, I do not want to ask how you know that. Cabinet Secretary, there is a lot of interest in this matter. One important issue you need to address is why re-introduce to the Kenyan market an already withdrawn product despite it bearing...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) We get it, Member for Endebess. I think that was for Hon. Omanyo. I hope you can get The Hansard, if you did not hear everything, so that you can refer to the explanation. Let us have the follow-up question by Hon. Umulkher.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Thank you very much, Member for Thika. I need to have a copy of that response to refer to. Member for Navakholo, please, close this session of questions so that the Cabinet Secretary can respond.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Cabinet Secretary The Cabinet Secretary for Health (Dr Susan Nakhumicha) : Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker and Hon. Members. On the issue of availability of students to the existing MTCs, I would like to seek the indulgence of Members that we look at this...

Hon. Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Thank you. As we get Hon. Gikaria, Hon. Cabinet Secretary, ensure that you give correct, timely and updated information in your responses. Hon. Gikaria.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Thank you, Hon. Irene. Cabinet Secretary. (Hon. Harrison Kombe spoke the record) Hon. Kombe, you can only ask a follow-up question after the response. Hold on. The Cabinet Secretary for Health (Dr Susan Nakhumicha) : Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker and Hon. Members. According...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Hon. Sabina Chege, I just want to confirm that you have not opened or used it at all. (Laughter) 4th October 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 35 The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari)Health, on 21st January 2021, directed that nicotine pouches, including Lyft, be regulated...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) This Question will be dropped. (Question 214/223 dropped) The next Question is by Nominated Member, Hon. Irene Mayaka. Question 306/2023 NATIONAL HEALTH SURVEY ON MENTAL ILLNESS

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Cabinet Secretary. The Cabinet Secretary for Health (Dr Susan Nakhumicha) : Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker and Members. The Kenya Health Policy (2014-2030) and the Kenya Health Sector Strategic Plan (2018-2023) , in line with Articles 7 (3) (b) and (54) (1) of the...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Thank you, Hon. Member even though the matter you have raised is not related to Question 108/2023. Hon. Cabinet Secretary, respond. The Cabinet Secretary for Health (Dr Susan Nakhumicha) : Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker and Members. As I requested earlier, it is true...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Those are enough. Hon. Kombe.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Hon Cabinet Secretary, please, respond. The Cabinet Secretary for Health (Dr Susan. Nakhumicha) : Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. If you are able to make a declaration that velo be removed from the market, as the Ministry of Health, we will be the happiest...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Thank you. Hon. Irene Mayaka.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Cabinet Secretary. The Cabinet Secretary for Health (Dr Susan Nakhumicha) : Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker and Members. The Kenya Medical Training College has put in place measures to ensure there is uninterrupted learning in all the campuses in the country. Thanks to this...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) We will have one more follow-up question by Hon. Sunkuli. Hon. Members, you know we have business to transact up to 9.00 p.m. I will give Hon. Sunkuli a chance, then I will give the Cabinet Secretary a chance to respond.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Hon. Cabinet Secretary, I know these are medical terms. Please continue with your answer. If any Member will need clarification, I am sure there are doctors in the House led by the one Member for Endebess Constituency, to clarify. The Cabinet Secretary for Health...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Thank you, Hon. Chairperson. Cabinet Secretary, as you respond, note that the Departmental Committee Chairperson has alluded to the fact that law-making is not done outside this House. I hope we take up our responsibility. Member for Thika, I will indulge you for one...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Hon. Cabinet Secretary. The Cabinet Secretary for Health (Dr Susan Nakhumicha) : Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker and Members. On that Question, I will respond to part one. On parts two and three, I will give explanation. The KNH Pension Scheme, that is the...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Thank you. That was very quick and precise. Member for Funyula.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Hon. Members, I want to close this matter. Hon. Ruweida Obbo, what is out of order?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Cabinet Secretary, as you respond to this one, Members were asking what Velo is. Include that answer in your response. Please, wait a bit, Cabinet Secretary. 4th October 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 34

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Hon. Cabinet Secretary, I would not ask the Member for Endebess. Kindly just go on and clarify along the way. The Cabinet Secretary for Health (Dr Susan Nakhumicha) : Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker and Members. It is an influence of my mother-tongue and...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Hon. Members, let us not answer for the Cabinet Secretary. Just ask follow-up questions. Hon. Cabinet Secretary, please respond. The Cabinet Secretary for Health (Dr Susan Nakhumicha) : Hon. Temporary Speaker and Hon. Members, the youth counsellors in schools was out of a working...

Hon. Martha Wangari (Gilgil, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. From the onset, allow me to congratulate Hon. Muriu of Gatanga for bringing this very important issue on the Floor of the House. For the first time, we have seen children in primary schools being sent home for fees. It...