Martha Wangari

Let us have Hon. Opiyo Wandayi from Ugunja Constituency. 21st February 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 13

Hon. Opiyo Wandayi, you cannot cast aspersions on the Speaker. You have been given precedence. You are not the next. So, please, take your time and address the Motion.

Hon. Opiyo Wandayi, you have been here long enough. Please take your seat.

Continue, Hon. Opiyo.

Thank you, Hon. Opiyo Wandayi. Hon. Members, I can see there is a lot of interest, especially on the Competency Based Curriculum (CBC) Motion. We only have 14 minutes on this Motion. I would ask that we keep it short so that many Members can contribute. I will give this...

Continue, Hon. Karitho.

Hon. Moses Kirima, Member for Central Imenti, proceed.

Hon. Abdul Haro.

Thank you. Hon. Members, please note you cannot contribute twice to the same Motion. This chance will go to Hon. Beatrice Elachi. I see she is not in the House. Hon. Paul Biego. Not in the House. Hon. Robert Mbui, you have contributed. Hon. Julius Rutto.

Order, Members. I can see there is still a lot of interest and this Motion is not limited. So, debate on it will go on. But right now, for the convenience of the House, we will move to the Motion on Adjournment of the House by Hon. Kaluma, as approved...

Thank you, Hon. Kaluma. This chance will go to Hon. Melly.

Thank you, Hon. Melly. We have very many teachers in this House who are asking to be given opportunities to speak, and I can see there is a lot of interest. So, the shorter we keep it, the more Members will speak. This chance will now go to the Member...

Member for Suna East.

Thank you for keeping it short. If we do that, many of us will get a chance to speak. Hon. Robert Mbui, Member for Kathiani.

The Whip of the Majority Party. 21st February 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 23

Hon. Osoro, continue without casting aspersions on teachers. I want to warn you that the population of teachers here is quite something.

Order, Members.

Member for Githunguri, Hon. Gathoni Wamuchomba.

Hon. Irene Mayaka.

Asante sana. Mbunge wa

Member for Emuhaya.

Hon. Tonkei and Hon. Nyikal are not in the House. Member for Kipkelion East, Hon. Cherorot.

Thank you, Hon. Members. Many of you are coming here to ask whether this Motion will be there tomorrow. I want to make it clear it will not because it is an Adjournment Motion. It will only be debated today. Member for Kisauni, Hon. Rashid Bedzimba.

Member for Mosop, Hon. Kirwa.

Member for Busia.

Member for Nandi Hills.

Your time is up. Hon. Caroli Omondi, I know you have had a problem with your card for a while.

Member for Chepalungu, Hon. Victor Koech.

Member for Baringo North.

Your time is up. The Deputy Leader of the Majority Party.

Thank you. The Member for Kipipiri.

The Member for Lugari, Hon. Nabii.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I also rise to join in congratulating Hon. Peter Kaluma for bringing this very important Motion to the House. Hon. Temporary Speaker, you realise that this Motion has received overwhelming support from both sides of the House. This is because it does not matter which...

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I wish to ask the Cabinet Secretary for Roads and Transport the following Question:

Member for Kilgoris, Hon. Julius Sunkuli.

That closes Order No.7. We will move to the next Order. PROCEDURAL MOTION EXEMPTION OF BUSINESS FROM PROVISIONS OF STANDING ORDERS

That being the mood of the House, I put the Question. (Question put and agreed to) PUBLICATION OF REGULATIONS ON PRIVATE LAND USE AND MANAGEMENT Hon. Members, this Motion has a balance of one hour and 25 minutes. Hon. Leah Sopiato, if she is in the House, has a balance...

The next chance will go to the Member for Lungalunga, Hon. Chiforomodo.

Member for Nandi, Hon. Cynthia Muge.

Let us hear from Nominated Member Hon. John Mbadi.

Let us have the Member for Sirisia, Hon. John Waluke. (Applause)

Hon. Members, allow me to recognise students seated in the Public Gallery, from AIC Kipsangui Boys High School, Soy Constituency, Uasin Gishu County, and Kabungut Boys High School, Bomet Central Constituency, Bomet County. On behalf of the House, and on my own behalf, I welcome them to observe the proceedings...

Member for Mandera South, Hon. Abdul Haro.

The next opportunity will go to the Member for Mogotio, Hon. Kiborek.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I would like to comment on the two Petitions. On the one by Hon. Vincent Kawaya on the issue of pollution, even as industrial developments go on, proper environmental impact assessments must be done. I say that noting some places in mind. For example, there is...

This chance will go to the Member for Kangema, Hon. Peter Kihungi.

The next chance will go to the Member for Kamukunji, Hon. Yusuf.

Thank you, Leader of the Majority Party.

Hon. Opiyo Wandayi, that is a point of debate and you have already contributed to this Motion. So, the Leader of the Majority Party will proceed.

We have added the Leader of the Majority Party and the Leader of the Minority Party two minutes each. But going forward, five minutes will be the maximum. Every Member, please, take note. The next chance will go to the Member for Ugenya, Hon. David Ochieng’.

Member for Seme.

Order, Hon. Members. I do not know why your hands are up. Hon. Millie Odhiambo and Hon Rozaah Buyu, put your hands down. Insert your cards and if I cannot see you, you know what channels to use, but do not raise your hands. We are not in a classroom,...

The next chance will go to the Member for Marakwet West, Hon. Timothy Toroitich.

Thank you, the next chance will go to the Member for Dagoretti North. Hon. Beatrice Elachi.

Thank you. Hon. Member for Kimilili.

Member for Endebess, Dr. Pukose.

Let us have the Member for Suba North.

Thank you. The next chance will go to the Member for Bomet East, Hon. Richard Yegon.

Thank you. Member for Starehe, Hon. Amos Mwago. He is not in the House? Member for Kitui Central, Dr. Makali Mulu. If not in the House, we will have the Member for Samburu West, Hon. Naisula Lesuuda.

Member for Kwanza, Hon. Ferdinand Wanyonyi.

Member for Tigania West, Hon. Mutunga. If he is not in the House, let us have the Member for Kesses, Hon. Julius Rutto. If he is not in the House, let us have the Member for Emgwen, Hon. Josses Lelmengit.

Member for Chesumei, Hon. Paul Biego.

Thank you. The next chance goes to the Member for Kipkelion East, Hon. Joseph Cherorot. If he is not in the House, this chance will go to the County Member for Kericho, Hon. Beatrice Kemei. If she is also not in, the chance will go to the County Member for...

Thank you. This chance goes to the Member for Funyula, Hon. (Dr.) Ojiambo Oundo.

Member for Kabondo Kasipul, Hon. Eve Obara

Well said. The next chance goes to the Member for Tetu, Hon. Geoffrey Mwangi.

Thank you, let us hear the Member for Nyando.

What is out order, Hon. Naomi Waqo?

Hon. Okello.

This chance will go to the Chair of the Departmental Committee on Agriculture and Livestock, Hon. Mutunga.

Hon. Members, we have finished calling out the division list for voting. Any Member who has not voted should do so in the next few minutes, and then we will close the whole process. I order that the Bell be rung for 10 minutes. Anyone from the restaurant who actually...

Order, Members. Let us maintain silence during the counting. (Vote counting in progress) Order, Members. Please retain your seats during the counting of the votes. Order, Members. We need to hear the votes. Order, Members! (Vote counting in progress) Order, Members. If you voted for more than five for Kenya...

Those Members who are not agents should move away from the tallying centre. Only agents should be there. (Vote counting in progress) (Hon. Members gestured at the candidates in the Speaker’s Gallery) [The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) left the Chair] [The Deputy Speaker (Hon. Gladys Boss) took the Chair]

Asante sana Naibu wa Spika. Ningependa kuchukua nafasi hii kuwapa kongole wale Wabunge ambao wamepata nafasi kutuwakilisha kwenye Jumuiya ya Afrika Mashariki. Vile wenzangu wamesema, wakienda huko hawaendi kama Azimio au Kenya Kwanza, wanaenda kuwakilisha nchi. Tumeweza kuonyesha kwamba huu uchaguzi haujakuwa rahisi. Tumeangalia mambo kadha wa kadha. Hao Wabunge...

Hon. Speaker, I rise to ask the Cabinet Secretary for Foreign and Diaspora Affairs the following Question by Private Notice:

The next Question is by the Member for Mwingi Central. QPN No.003/2022 PROVISION OF RELIEF FOOD TO RESIDENTS AND SCHOOLS IN MWINGI CENTRAL

Question to be replied before the Departmental Committee on Regional Development. ORDINARY QUESTIONS DEVELOPMENT OF MARINE TRANSPORT IN LAMU COUNTY

Thank you, Hon. Member. That Question will be replied to before the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure. The next Question will go to the Member for Kabuchai, Hon. Majimbo Kalasinga. If he is not in the House, the next Question will go to the Member for Yatta, Hon. Robert...

Thank you. That will be replied to before the Departmental Committee on Lands. The next Question will go to the Member for Machakos County, Hon. Joyce Kamene. If the Member is not in the House, the next Question will go to the Member for Kangema, Hon. Peter Kihungi. Question No.006/2022...

Thank you. That Question will be replied to before the Departmental Committee on Agriculture and Livestock Development. I will give a second opportunity to Hon. Charity Chepkwony. She is not in the House. Hon. Joyce Kamene, if she is in the House. Hon. Members, allow me to recognise Mukoma wa...

Thank you. This Statement will go to the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee of Administration and Internal Affairs. Chairperson, I do not know how long you will need. Where is the Chairperson, the Vice Chairperson or a Member of the Committee to undertake… If there is no Member in the...

Two weeks’ time is good. That will be taken in two weeks. I will indulge Members on the next chance because I know we are also doing a lot of vetting activities in Committees. I will give a final chance on this Question to Hon. Chepkwony of Njoro. ORDINARY QUESTION...

Hon. Member, the Question is as approved. This Question will be replied to before the Departmental Committee on Lands. 15th November 2022 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 21 The next Statement is by the Deputy Speaker, Hon. Gladys Boss. STATEMENTS NOTIFICATION ON CHAIRPERSONS AND VICE-CHAIRPERSONS OF COMMITTEES

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. Hon. Members, allow me to recognise the presences of Turi Secondary School students from Molo Constituency, Nakuru County, seated in the Public Gallery. On behalf of myself and the House, you are welcome to observe the proceedings of the National Assembly.

Hon. Deputy Speaker.

The Members of the Liaison Committee already have administrative communication channels for their meetings which can be done after here. The next Statement will be done on behalf of Hon. Owen Baya by Hon. Paul Katana Kahindi. DELAYED DISBURSEMENT OF FUNDS BY NATIONAL GOVERNMENT CONSTITUENCIES DEVELOPMENT FUND BOARD

Thank you, Hon. Member. This Statement will go to the National Government Constituencies Development Fund Committee. The Chairperson, Hon. Musa Sirma how long will you take?

Order, Hon. Member! You are the Chairperson, National Government Constituencies Development Fund Committee and this Statement is properly on the Floor. How long will you require to answer it?

One week is the commitment from the Chairperson. Next Order! PROCEDURAL MOTION 15th November 2022 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 25 RESOLUTION TO HOLD THURSDAY MORNING SITTING The Leader of the Majority Party.

Order Members! I will propose. (Question proposed)

Next Order. APPROVAL OF NOMINEES TO NATIONAL GOVERNMENT CONSTITUENCIES DEVELOPMENT FUND COMMITTEES

Order, Hon. Mwale! Order Member. The Chairperson will continue to move the Motion. We will have the chance to debate the Motion. Those who have issues will raise their issues as they come. So please go on.

Thank you, Dr. Pukose. Hon. Chairperson, Hon. Musa Sirma, please move the Motion as it is on the Order Paper and quote the 124 constituencies that are on the Order Paper.

Order. Hon. Chairperson, please just listen to us. Move the Motion as it is. So, do not tell as about the 70, the 124. 15th November 2022 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 27

Hon. Ochanda.

Hon. Junet, Order! I am looking at the cards here but I do not see you. Please, the microphone is still with Hon. Ochanda. (Laughter) Continue, Hon. Ochanda.

Hon. Ochanda, please second the Motion. Do not be distracted by the noise from the House.

Order, Hon. Junet! This Motion will be seconded and then it will be opened for debate, so that Members can ventilate and raise issues like you. Hon. Ochanda, please second the Motion.

Thank you, Hon. Ochanda. (Question proposed) The first chance to address this issue will go to Hon. Julius ole Sunkuli, Member for Kilgoris.

Thank you. Let us now have the Whip of the Minority Party.

Thank you, Minority Whip. Member for Molo, Hon. Kuria Kimani.

Thank you, Hon. Member. The next chance will go to the Member for Rangwe, Hon. Lilian Gogo.

Thank you, Hon. Gogo. The next chance will go to the Member for Bomet East, Hon. Richard Yegon.

Thank you, Hon. Member. I will now give this chance to the Member for Kwanza, Hon. Ferdinand Wanyonyi.

Let us have the Member for Kilifi South, Hon Chonga.

That is well noted, but I will give Hon. Ken Chonga an opportunity to finish. After you finish, we will put the Question on the issue raised by Hon. Kuria Kimani.

I will now put the Question as proposed by Hon. Kuria Kimani that the Mover be now called to reply. (Question, that the Mover be now called upon to reply, put and agreed to)

You beg to reply? Hon. Musa Sirma (Eldama Ravine, UDA) : Yes, I beg to reply. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Hon. Members, under Standing Order 53 (3) , and for obvious reasons, I defer putting of the Question to another time. (Putting of the Question deferred) The next Order...

Hon. Daniel Nanok.

Hon Members, I will now propose the Question. (Question proposed) I will give this chance to the Member for Bureti, Hon. Kibet Komingoi. He is not in the House. I will give the chance to Hon. Johana Ng’eno, Member for Emurua Dikirr

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I support the discussion we are having on this very important legislative proposal. First of all, I congratulate Hon. Mule and Hon. Githinji, because this is the closest we have come to addressing the issues that we have had with the NG-CDF and the NGAAF....

Thank you, Member for Kitui Rural. We will now hear the Member for Embakasi Central, Hon. Benjamin Gathiru.

Thank you. The next chance goes to Hon. Ferdinand Wanyonyi of Kwanza Constituency. Is he in the House? Let us have Hon. John Mbadi. Is he in the House? The next chance will go to the Member for Mukurweini, Hon. John Kaguchia. Give the microphone to Hon. Kaguchia.

The next chance will go to the Member for Kilome.

Thank you. The next chance will go to the Member for Teso South, Hon Mary Emaase.

Thank you. This chance will go to the Member for Chepalungu, Hon. Victor Koech.

For the benefit of the new Members, Hon. Johnson Naicca, when you are crossing the Floor, you should go to the Bar and bow, and not as you have just done. The next chance will go to Hon. Agnes Mantaine, Member of Parliament for Narok North.

Thank you Member for Narok North. Hon. Mule, you have a point of intervention?

I will put the question if that is the mood of the House. (Question put and agreed) (Debate on the Motion resumed) The next chance goes to the Member for Runyenjes, Hon. Eric Muchangi.

The next opportunity will go to the Member of Parliament for Bobasi, Hon. Innocent Momanyi. Is he in the House? If not, it will go to the Member for Nandi, Hon Cynthia Muge.

Thank you, Member for Nandi. This chance will go to the Member for Ganze, Hon. Charo Kazungu. If he is not in the House, the chance will go to the Member for Limuru, Hon. John Kiragu.

Thank you. The next chance will go to the Member for Turkana South, Hon. John Namoit.

Thank you Member for Turkana South. This chance will now go to the Member for Central Imenti, Hon. Moses Kirima.

Thank you, Hon. Kirima. The next chance will go to the Member for Nakuru County, Hon. Liza Chelule.

Hon Members, we do not have the requisite numbers. I order that the Quorum Bell be rung for five minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Order, Hon. Members! When the Quorum Bell is being rung, you should not walk out of the Chamber. I want to ask those Members who...

Order, Hon. Members. You will not catch the Speaker’s eye by shouting. Please, ensure your card is working. Also, put it on intervention if you have a point of order. Hon. Osoro, continue.

Order, Members! You cannot rule each other out of order. That issue had already been canvassed by Hon. Mbadi. Go on, Hon. Osoro.

Your time is up. Order, Members! Order! (Loud consultations) 25th October 2022 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 30 We will now hear the Member for Suna East, Hon. Junet Mohamed.

What is your point of order, Hon. G.K of Ndia?

Please give Hon. George Kariuki the microphone.

Hon. Junet.

Your time is up. The Member for Naivasha, Jayne Kihara.

Hon. Junet, what is out of order?

Hon. Jayne Kihara, continue. 25th October 2022 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 33

Member for Endebess.

Member for Kathiani, Hon. Robert Mbui.

Your time is up, Hon. Mbui. We will now hear Hon. Onesmus Ngogoyo, Member for Kajiado North.

Member for Mwingi West, Hon. Charles Ngusya.

The Member for Mandera East, Hon. Hussein Weytan. If he is not in the House, we will have the nominated Member, Hon. Dorothy Muthoni.

We will now have the Member for Molo, Hon. Kuria Kimani. 25th October 2022 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 39

Member for Ugenya, Hon. David Ochieng’.

Member for Kitui Central, Dr. Makali Mulu.

Member for Laikipia, Hon. Jane Kagiri. 25th October 2022 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 44

Thank you. I realise we have a lot of interest on this Motion. The time is, of course, very limited. If we are able to limit our speaking time, then more people will get the chance to speak. I will give this chance to Hon. Dido Raso, Member for Saku....

County Member for Marsabit.

Order, Members. Member for Marsabit, you will have a balance of seven minutes tomorrow morning when the Motion resumes. ADJOURNMENT Hon. Members, the time being 7.00