David Ouma Ochieng'

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) You do not need to say anything on that, do you? Go ahead.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Well said. Millie Odhiambo-Mabona (Suba North, ODM) : On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. 11th June 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 13 The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) You surely know there is nothing out of order there.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) What is it?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Orero, umeridhika?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Okay, she thinks about you every time. Hon. Members, before we go to the next Order, join me to welcome students seated in the Public Gallery. They are:Nguluni Secondary School, Kaiti Constituency, Makueni County. In the Speaker’s Gallery, we have South Tetu Girls High...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Millie Odhiambo.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Orero is here, he is back but I will not give him a chance because if he is your junior, then he cannot comment on those kind of matters as regards you especially. Hon. Kaluma, on this issue of harmonisation, one minute.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)(Bill deferred)Thank you. In view of the fact that this matter of harmonisation has taken a long time, more than a year, I order that a report of that exercise of harmonisation be brought to the House on Wednesday, next week. I hope you understand...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)Thank you very much, Hon. Timothy. For the reasons advanced by Hon. Timothy this Bill is also stood down to the next time it is put in the Order Paper. I will not be able to say when as of now.(Bill deferred)Thank you. MANDATORY USE...

Hon. Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Give me one minute, Hon. Pauline. Members, join me in welcoming students from DEB Kianda Primary School, Buuri Constituency, Meru County, and students from Bishop Lawrence Bessone Primary School, 11th June 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 21 Hon. Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)North Imenti, Meru...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Deputy Leader of the Majority Party.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) I hate to interrupt you, but last time I checked, you were in some county as a very senior official. I hope you did not buy a seat.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Emurua Dikirr.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Members, I have a list. You are all my friends, so as usual, I will follow the list. Raising your hand up will not help you in this regard. (Laughter)(Applause)(Applause)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) You were in the same class as Hon. Adan Keynan?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Were you in the same history class as him?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Adan here.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Yes.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) He was contributing to something on coffee yesterday, and he used the same words you have used. I do not know whether you were in the same history class.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Okay, go ahead. (Hon. Adan Keynan spoke off the record)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) I will allow you 30 seconds to wind up.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) That is the one passing through Kotulo?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Hon. Farah, there is interest on this. You have 30 seconds to completely wind up.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Well said. Thank you. Next is the Member for Tinderet.

Hon. Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Members, this is the third time Hon. Oundo is asking this question. We have the books and they are public documents. They are for Members of Parliament and everyone else. Hon. Oundo, I will not entertain a question like that because every Member...

Hon. Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’) You can see how much is going to health, transport and all the other programmes as indicated. We will be repeating ourselves. Not unless you are seeking a clarification but, in terms of the numbers, these are clearly in the books. (Programmes 0201000, 0203000,...

Hon. Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Mayaka, what is out of order?

Hon. Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’) It is not showing on my end.

Hon. Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you so much, Hon. Member. That is what I was speaking to. I have given direction that it must be availed to all Members before the end of the day. The Chairperson has undertaken that it shall be done. Because of the many...

Hon. Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order, Members. (Programmes 0621000 agreed to) (Vote 2141 agreed to) VOTE 2151 – INDEPENDENT POLICING OVERSIGHT AUTHORITY Hon. Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Mayaka.

Hon. Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’) I do not want a debate on this matter. Hon. Bashir. (Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo spoke off the record)

Hon. Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Oundo.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Well said. Hon. Members, join me in recognising and welcoming students seated at the Speaker’s Gallery. They are: Mt. Kenya State Road Academy, Kieni Constituency, Nyeri County and St. Benedict’s Wamutitu Secondary School, Mukurweini Constituency, Nyeri County. We also have students from Tassia Primary...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Well said. Let us hear from the Member for Kirinyaga.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you and well said. Join me in welcoming students from…. (Hon. Yusuf Adan spoke off the record) Hon. Adan, there are four Members before you. I will give opportunities to them and then I will give you. Relax. (Laughter)(Applause)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Seme.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Well said. Member for Eldas.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Well said. Hon. Members, today we have a number of schools visiting us. Seated in the Public Gallery are students from Masinga Girls, Masinga Constituency in Machakos County. Seated in the Speaker’s Gallery are students from Moi Girls Isinya, Kajiado East Constituency...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Teso South.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Saku.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) One minute. Members, you know what I do when I am presiding. I will not skip anybody. I will follow the list in the way you came. Just relax, bide your time and speak based on what time you came. Go ahead.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Well said. Next is the Member for Narok North, Hon. Pareyio.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Next is the Member for Busia County.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Mandera West.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Next is the Member for Nambale, Hon. Mulanya.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Well said. Member for Kisumu East.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Keiyo North.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Well said. Member for Nyamira.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Before I give a chance to the next Member to contribute, join me in welcoming students from Weithaga Boys High School from Kiharu Constituency, Murang’a County and St. Joseph Matiku Secondary School from Kibwezi West Constituency, Makueni County. They are welcome to...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Turkana East.

Hon. Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Tinderet. 4th June 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 33

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) What is out of order, Hon. Baya?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) How did you determine the mood of the House? Is it the mood of the House that we call the Mover to reply?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Mutunga.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Members, that marks the end of the Second Reading debate on the Agriculture and Livestock Extension Services Bill (Senate Bill No.12 of 2022) . For obvious reasons, the Question will be put the next time the Bill will be slotted in the Order...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Muchira. 24th April 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 43

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Oundo, do you want to speak to this?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng') Hon. Omanyo, do you want to speak to this?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Hon. Members, since there is no further interest in this matter, the Motion is clearly spent. The decision on this Motion will be made the next time it is in the Order Paper. (Putting of the Question deferred) Next order. ADOPTION OF REPORT ON...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Onchoke.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. (Dr) Oundo, do you want to contribute to this matter?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Okay, let us hear from Hon. Melly, who wishes to contribute.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Hon. Members, since there is no further interest in this matter, I will defer putting the question to the next time it is scheduled in the Order Paper. (Putting of the Question deferred) Next Order. THE LEARNERS WITH DISABILITIES BILL

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Bisau.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) You are not supporting it, but seconding it.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Dorothy Ikiara.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Machakos County. 24th April 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 51

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Ol Jorok, you may proceed.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Hon. Member for Teso South, would you like to speak on this matter? Go ahead.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Makali Mulu, go ahead.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng') Member for Kipkelion East.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) I have skipped Member for Funyula three times. Allow me to give him the opportunity to contribute. Go ahead.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Oundo, you clearly know why I am interrupting you.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) You will have a balance of four minutes next time this Bill is ready for debate in the House. ADJOURNMENT The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order, Hon. Emaase! Hon. Members, the time being 7.00 p.m., the House stands adjourned until Tuesday, 29th April...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Marsabit.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Those Members who have their hands raised on the majority side, we have already given three opportunities on this side, consecutively. Let the minority side also have a chance. Member for Seme.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Laikipia East.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Just a minute. There is a Member with her hands up all the time. Is anything out of order? Hon. Chelule, I cannot give you the microphone because you do not have your card, but you keep raising your hands up. Just get a...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Kwanza.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) The Member for Kwanza, this Bill establishes a board.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) I am asking if you propose another body or agency.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Nambale.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Nyatike. Hon. Odege, this is your chance. Hon. Tom Odege (Nyatike, ODM) : Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Allow me to join my colleagues in supporting this timely Bill. In the last Parliament, I served on the Departmental Committee on Labour...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Member for Runyenjes.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Osoro, what are you doing on your seat? Let the Quorum Bell be rung for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order, Hon. Members. I now confirm that we quorate. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Members, for the convenience of the House, I want us to skip Order No.7 and go directly to Order No.8. PROCEDURAL MOTION EXEMPTION OF BUSINESS FROM PROVISIONS OF STANDING ORDER 40(3)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Junet Mohamed, you are seconding this Motion. 16th April 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 2

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Next Order. CONSIDERATION OF REPORT ON THE ANTI-MONEY LAUNDERING AND COMBATING OF TERRORISM FINANCING LAWS (AMENDMENT) BILL The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Members, we concluded the Committee of the whole House on this Bill. What remained was for the Question to be...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Junet.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Chepkonga

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) The last Member to contribute on this matter will be Hon. Elachi. 16th April 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 4

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you, Members. I want to put the Question. I confirm there is Quorum. (Question put and agreed to) (The Bill was accordingly read a Third Time and passed) Next Order. SPECIAL MOTIONS APPROVAL OF NOMINEES FOR APPOINTMENT AS PRINCIPAL SECRETARIES FOR PUBLIC INVESTMENTS...

The Temporary Speaker (David Ochieng’) I have not seen any monkey in the House this morning.

The Temporary Speaker (David Ochieng’) What is the point of order Hon. Farah Maalim. Hon. Farah Maalim (Dadaab, WDM) : I want to set the record straight. In North Eastern, we do not eat monkeys. He comes from Nyanza. We do not skin monkeys. For the record, that only applies...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Give Hon. Sirma the microphone.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Leader of the Majority Party, act accordingly and desist from using terms that would cause many---

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order! Order! This Motion is coming up for debate shortly and anybody who wants to say something about it will have the chance then. Leader of the Majority Party, proceed and conclude.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Leader of the Minority Party, proceed.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Some Members are already raising their hands up, even those who have just walked into the Chamber now. (Question proposed) 16th April 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 13

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) (Technical hitch) . I can deal with it. I do not need assistance on this matter. Just one minute, Hon. Junet.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order! We will not go there. The Leader of the Majority Party, you will take two minutes at most.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) I do not think I need to say anything on this matter. As recent as when we passed the appointment of the current Cabinet Secretary of Energy and Petroleum and the Cabinet Secretary of the National Treasury and Economic Planning, the Speaker gave a...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Farah Maalim.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)Member of Marsabit County.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Uasin Gishu County.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Melly, I already said I will not give anybody a chance to raise a point of order because I know you want to debate. We are not going to allow you to debate using a point of order. What is it?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order, Hon. Members. (Hon. Gladys Boss stood in her place) Hon. Member for Uasin Gishu County, take your seat. On this occasion, as Members, you would know that the Speaker is allowed to determine whether a point of order like the one raised now...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) I am going to give four more Hon. Members, a chance to contribute. If you took as little time as Hon. Deputy Speaker has done, then we would have more of you speaking. Take two minutes at most then we can proceed. Hon. Zamzam,...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Eldas. Use the microphone next to you. You have two minutes.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Baringo.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Emurua Dikirr.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) The Minority Whip.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Members, I have noted a great deal of interest in this matter, but we must close it. I will give the Floor to the Member for Kilgoris, and we shall conclude with the Member for Kilifi North.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Millie, he is merely speaking. What is out of order? Hon. Sunkuli, please, you need to finalise. 16th April 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 22

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Sunkuli.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. (Dr) Nyamai.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Baya, proceed.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Is it the mood of the House that the Mover be called upon to reply? Hon. Members Yes! The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. The Mover may proceed.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Members at the back, take your seats. Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, UDA) : They should serve with the same dedication they demonstrated while serving in their other capacities. I beg to reply. 16th April 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 24 The Temporary Speaker (Hon....

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Tinderet, you are the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Education. How long will it take you to respond to this matter?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Isiolo County, follow up with the Member after two weeks. Next is Hon. Rashid Bedzimba. RECOGNITION CRITERIA OF CERTIFICATES FROM INTERNATIONAL SCHOOLS

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) I order the Quorum Bell to run for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) I order that the Quorum Bell be stopped. Hon. Members, for the convenience of the House, I wish to re-organise the Order Paper. (Hon. Mugambi Rindikiri consulted loudly) Order,...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Atandi, you must get used to this now.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Next Order. CONSIDERATION OF REPORT ON THE DIVISION OF REVENUE BILL THE DIVISION OF REVENUE BILL

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Pukose.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)Okay. Hon Members, having THE BASIC EDUCATION (AMENDMENT) BILL

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Next Order. NOTICES OF MOTIONS QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS REQUEST FOR STATEMENTS HIGH FREQUENCY OF ACCIDENTS ALONG THE LIKONI-LUNGA-LUNGA HIGHWAY.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) I saw the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure in the House this morning. Is the Vice-Chairperson in? Hon. Osoro, this will be under your charge. How long do you think the Committee will take to respond to this request for...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Please proceed as you suggested. The answer should be given in two weeks. The Member for Eldas is in the House. Please proceed with your request for a Statement. KALA-AZAR VIRUS OUTBREAK IN WAJIR COUNTY

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order, I see the Member for Seme is in the House. Hon. (Dr) Nyikal, I hope you realise that you are now the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Health. The Member for Endebess is no longer the Chairperson. The request for a Statement...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Proceed with the request; do not lecture him yet. 9th April 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 6

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) You cannot go beyond that, Hon. Member. You know this very well. I have allowed you to read beyond what you gave to the Table Office, so I request that you read it the way it is.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Before I ask the Member for Seme to say something on this Statement, the Member for Marsabit, Hon. Waqo, has something to add.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng') Thank you. The Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Health.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) From what you have heard, this is an emergency. You are probably aware that there is already a testing machine as you enter Isiolo County. I have been told there is a testing place where people are being tested for this Kala-azar Virus. This...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Okay. Member for Eldas.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Okay, fair enough. Member for Endebess.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Eldas, this is not a matter of argument.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) The record is quite straight because I listened to you. Member for Seme, the response to this Statement will be brought up on Tuesday afternoon. Even as you stand to give the clarification, ensure that it is brought on Tuesday. Today is Wednesday. This...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) That is good progress and fair enough. We look forward to getting this response as soon as possible, but not later than Tuesday next week. Members, for the convenience of the House and following consultations with the leadership, we will dispense with Order No....

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order. We just called a new Order, and I do not see how what you are asking relates to the Order we just called. Hon. Joseph Gitari (Kirinyaga Central, UDA) : I had called for a write-up before then, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The Temporary...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Is it the mood of the House that we ask the Mover to reply to this Motion?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Member for Alego Usonga Constituency.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) (Question put and agreed to) Next Order. THE EXCISE DUTY (AMENDMENT) BILL The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Kimani Kuria.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) I would like to know whether you come from the same place as Hon. Kuria Kimani. Give the Leader of the Majority Party 30 seconds to tell me where he comes from. I thought it was Kikuyu.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Kuria Kimani, you can speak for yourself on this matter.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Members, before I propose the Question for the Bill to be debated, join me in welcoming students from Jabali Primary and Junior Secondary School, Kiambaa Constituency, Kiambu County, and students from Save Our Souls Junior Secondary School, Nyali, Mombasa County. They...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng') Thank you. The Member for Buuri.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng') Member for Kitui Rural, I want to deny you this chance because you do not trust the system. You should trust the system next time and stay in your seat. I would have skipped you if I were not having a good morning. I...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) I now call upon the Chairperson to report to the House.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Mover, Hon. Atandi.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Pukose.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Members, for obvious reasons, we will defer the putting of the Question to the next time the House sits. (Putting of the Question deferred) Next Order. THE EXCISE DUTY (AMENDMENT) BILL 8th April 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 52 The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Oundo, what is out of order?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Members, I have listened to the Member for Funyula. Therefore, I order the Quorum Bell to be rung for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) I order the Bell to be stopped. ADJOURNMENT The Temporary Speaker...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Kitui Rural, Hon. Mboni.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) I see the Deputy Leader of the Majority Party, Hon. Owen Baya.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Well said. Hon. Members, seated in the Speaker’s Gallery are students from Christ the King School in Nakuru East, Nakuru County. They are welcome to follow the proceedings this afternoon. Join me in welcoming them to the august House. Thank you. Hon. Maero Oyula.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Gatanga.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Marakwet West.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Gatanga, what is that? Go ahead, Member for Marakwet West.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Butere.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Next in line is Hon. Irene Mayaka.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Members. Seated in the Speaker's Gallery are students visiting from St. Gertrude Kinthithe Secondary School of Runyenjes Constituency in Embu County; and seated in the Public Gallery are students from Oloirien Junior School of Kajiado West Constituency in Kajiado. They are...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. (Students clapped for Hon. George Sunkuyia) We do not allow the guests to clap. Hon. Sunkuyia, I do not know what you told your students but, next time, they should not clap. Member for Funyula.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) They are forgiven.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Kwanza.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Yatta.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Homa Bay Town Constituency.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Allow Hon. Kaluma one minute.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Jackson Kosgei, do you want to say something on this?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Garissa Town, Hon. Dekow. Where is your card?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Member for Saku.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Add him one more minute to finalise.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Seme, did you want to speak on this? Hon. (Dr) James Nyikal (Seme, ODM) ]: Yes. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Okay, go ahead. Hon. (Dr) James Nyikal (Seme, ODM) ]: Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me this opportunity....

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Melly, we are 43rd in the ratification of the agreement. Other countries are already on board. We have delayed. The Corporation is already working. That is why we are expediting the ratification of the agreement. Hon. Members, there being no further interest to...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Members, the decision on this Motion will be made the next time it will be listed in the Order Paper for obvious reasons. Next Order. (Putting of the Question deferred) The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Tindi Mwale, I am sure you...